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September 26, 2013, 03:28:04 PM
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If you can find some evidence that you were cheated then please present it.  'I can't possibly be this unlucky' doesn't really count as anything but highly circumstantial evidence.

This is exactly why I advise Dooglus to publish his algorithm, since it's truly "provably fair". If doog didn't cheat at all, what's the loss for him? I think it's the easiest way for Dooglus to prove himself clear. And, I said I wouldn't call anyone a cheater without proof.

The algorithm is published.  Under the 'Fair?' tab on the site there are a couple of third party verifier scripts.  Have you tried those?

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September 26, 2013, 03:35:52 PM
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Nakowa, you are a fraud.

If you think you have a strategy, then lets see you win even 1000BTC using 90BTC max bet.

Stop calling dooglus a cheater. The only thing that changed is the max bet lower.  The algorithm is published publicly on the 'fair' tab.

You want to sell your strategy for 111BTC but you can't because you had 2 losing sessions in a row.
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September 26, 2013, 03:36:35 PM
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If you can find some evidence that you were cheated then please present it.  'I can't possibly be this unlucky' doesn't really count as anything but highly circumstantial evidence.

This is exactly why I advise Dooglus to publish his algorithm, since it's truly "provably fair". If doog didn't cheat at all, what's the loss for him? I think it's the easiest way for Dooglus to prove himself clear. And, I said I wouldn't call anyone a cheater without proof.

The algorithm is published.  Under the 'Fair?' tab on the site there are a couple of third party verifier scripts.  Have you tried those?

Did you ever read this post? [EDU] Provably fair and how it can be exploited by casino owners against you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283547.0

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September 26, 2013, 03:44:05 PM
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Nakowa, you are a fraud.

Proof, please.

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September 26, 2013, 03:50:08 PM
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Did you ever read this post? [EDU] Provably fair and how it can be exploited by casino owners against you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283547.0

It seems you may be out of options to prove JD cheated you.

I first heard about JD and started using the site after reading about your wins on a popular mainstream news web site.  How did you intend to keep winning when the odds are mathematically against you and it's only a matter of time until variance swings the other way?  I know people go on about 'feelings' and 'knowing' when they'll win, but everyone (bar the player) knows that's just a gambler's fallacy.  As is trying to find patterns in random numbers generated by OpenSSL.  If there are patterns to be had after observing just a few hundred thousand outcomes then forget an insignificant site like JD.  Online banking and commerce around the world would be in serious trouble.

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September 26, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
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Did you ever read this post? [EDU] Provably fair and how it can be exploited by casino owners against you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283547.0

It seems you may be out of options to prove JD cheated you.

I first heard about JD and started using the site after reading about your wins on a popular mainstream news web site.  How did you intend to keep winning when the odds are mathematically against you and it's only a matter of time until variance swings the other way?  I know people go on about 'feelings' and 'knowing' when they'll win, but everyone (bar the player) knows that's just a gambler's fallacy.  As is trying to find patterns in random numbers generated by OpenSSL.  If there are patterns to be had after observing just a few hundred thousand outcomes then forget an insignificant site like JD.  Online banking and commerce around the world would be in serious trouble.

Smiley I'm not talking about patterns here. I think doog can easily prove himself. The only issue is that is he willing to, and how.

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September 26, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
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Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!
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September 26, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
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Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.

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September 26, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
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Who cares about you?
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September 26, 2013, 04:03:04 PM
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Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.

He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice.  He is a fraud.  We don't want him to play at just-dice anymore. 

He can play at satoshi dice they have 1.9% edge... He can go to a real casino with 1.9% edge....

He should stay away from just-dice 1% edge we don't want him there he is a fraud and accuser of dooglus.
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September 26, 2013, 04:07:32 PM
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Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.

He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice.  He is a fraud.  We don't want him to play at just-dice anymore. 

He can play at satoshi dice they have 1.9% edge... He can go to a real casino with 1.9% edge....

He should stay away from just-dice 1% edge we don't want him there he is a fraud and accuser of dooglus.

So you mean the proof is "He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice" ,right? It seems that you have bought the strategy to check whether it's worked out or not ,huh?

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September 26, 2013, 04:08:29 PM
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Who cares about you?
Bye

You, otherwise you shouldn't reply this post.  Tongue

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September 26, 2013, 04:11:16 PM
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Who cares about you?
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You, otherwise you shouldn't reply this post.  Tongue

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September 26, 2013, 05:02:36 PM
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hey nakowa you should gamble on letsdice.com - give something back to the letsdice investors Smiley

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September 26, 2013, 05:05:21 PM
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Nakowa: your strategy never worked. You didn't prove a single point (well, yes: that a single player with a bankroll orders of magnitude bigger than the rest of the players can create high variance - and some of us already knew that).

As an investor, I tell you that I was and I am just begging for you to keep playing. Too bad that some others "lost faith in math" (LOL) and panicked, which lead to a drastic reduction of max profit, which in fact probably "protected" you from bigger losses in the last three sessions.

You should feel ashamed for trying to sell a "gambling strategy" based on "flaws in SHA256" for 111 BTC. You have no strategy, you discovered NO flaw in SHA256, and you just bet at random trying to "spot patterns" - which is just a gambler's fallacy.




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September 26, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
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common it's only 5k

if doog rigged the algor, there must be ways to crack it up again as long as it's still provable fair .

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September 26, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
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For what it's worth, the algorithm is here: http://just-dice.com/lucky.txt
Nothing has changed besides the max profit.
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September 26, 2013, 06:52:11 PM
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Nakowa,  You are a fraud. Take your money and leave.

We don't want you to play at just-dice.com anymore!

proof,please.

He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice.  He is a fraud.  We don't want him to play at just-dice anymore. 

He can play at satoshi dice they have 1.9% edge... He can go to a real casino with 1.9% edge....

He should stay away from just-dice 1% edge we don't want him there he is a fraud and accuser of dooglus.

So you mean the proof is "He claims to sell a strategy for 111BTC to tell people how to win and beat just-dice" ,right? It seems that you have bought the strategy to check whether it's worked out or not ,huh?

The strategy was hacked and leaked for free and it was a fraud. Nakowa is a fraud.

We don't want him to play at Just-Dice.com anymore!!!!

NAKOWA STAY AWAY FROM JUST-DICE. DO NOT DEPOSIT. GO AND PLAY AT 1.9% EDGE AT SATOSHIDICE.
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September 26, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
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If you can find some evidence that you were cheated then please present it.  'I can't possibly be this unlucky' doesn't really count as anything but highly circumstantial evidence.

This is exactly why I advise Dooglus to publish his algorithm, since it's truly "provably fair". If doog didn't cheat at all, what's the loss for him? I think it's the easiest way for Dooglus to prove himself clear. And, I said I wouldn't call anyone a cheater without proof.

The algorithm is published.  Under the 'Fair?' tab on the site there are a couple of third party verifier scripts.  Have you tried those?

Did you ever read this post? [EDU] Provably fair and how it can be exploited by casino owners against you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283547.0

So your site (letsdice) is fraud too?   All right I'll never play there
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September 26, 2013, 07:34:43 PM
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Nakowa uses investor money from letsdice.com to play at just-dice.com

Nakowa is a fraud.   I hope he never plays at just-dice.com again.
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