HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive

[ghuijnen]

Hi Tranz,

My compliments, you're doing a great job!

Have a nice Christmas all!

[micax1]

90% of my PoS mined coins currently "Generated but not accepted" why? it was opposite before 90% was accepted...

[Tranz]

Hi Tranz,

My compliments, you're doing a great job!

Have a nice Christmas all!

Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too.

[Tranz]

90% of my PoS mined coins currently "Generated but not accepted" why? it was opposite before 90% was accepted...

10% orphan rate is normal. 90% is definitely wrong.

One other person complained of similar issue.  I am gathering more information.

Please answer the following questions.

What version of HBN are you using?

Are you fully up-to-date with the block explorer? As far as the correct block number and difficulty?

What type system are you running on? Win build(if win), ram, cpu?

Is your CPU maxed at one core? IE Hobonickels-qt.exe is taking 25% of a quad core system.

What is your internet type? and latency?

How many connections are you holding?

Please also restart the client with -debug and -printstakemodifier and -printcreation and -printcoinstake -maxconnections=50

Let it run for a bit get a few good stakes or orphans, then please zip up the debug.log and put it somewhere for me to look at. You can PM me the location or post here.

[Ardolafat]

Just got my first PoSes, it's very attractive to print money from money
I just cant get how this magic works: it looks like it splits the  amount in wallet to lower parts or combines the transactions to make several stakes  ?  
 
And also it looks like i got more than 2% (almost 3 % ) Thats great, but is'nt it a bug  ?

[rpg]

what payload is on the HBN client? I started to notice the ASIC miners on a computer would start to go on and off while the sticks on other computers were not being affected. Eventually I pinpointed the cause to the HBN client. None of the other clients running on the same computer have any effect on the usb sticks. so the question is obvious, what did you add to the client? I noticed the CPU running at 90%+ used by the HBN client. I will no longer run the client, i will send the coins straight into cryptsy and recommend everyone to do the same

[micax1]

90% of my PoS mined coins currently "Generated but not accepted" why? it was opposite before 90% was accepted...

10% orphan rate is normal. 90% is definitely wrong.

One other person complained of similar issue.  I am gathering more information.

Please answer the following questions.

What version of HBN are you using?

Are you fully up-to-date with the block explorer? As far as the correct block number and difficulty?

What type system are you running on? Win build(if win), ram, cpu?

Is your CPU maxed at one core? IE Hobonickels-qt.exe is taking 25% of a quad core system.

What is your internet type? and latency?

How many connections are you holding?

Please also restart the client with -debug and -printstakemodifier and -printcreation and -printcoinstake -maxconnections=50

Let it run for a bit get a few good stakes or orphans, then please zip up the debug.log and put it somewhere for me to look at. You can PM me the location or post here.

- version is: v1.2.2.3-ge43cb68-hobo
- looks like it is fully up to date:
{
"version" : "v1.2.2.3-ge43cb68-hobo",
"protocolversion" : 70002,
"blocks" : 445602,
"moneysupply" : 2243498.30957900,
"connections" : 8,
"wallets" : 1,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "98.216.202.19",
"difficulty" : 0.63282155,
"testnet" : false,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"errors" : ""
}
- Win 8.1 Pro x64 32Gb Ram i7-3960x
- it is 8% - what is equal to 1 core in 12 core CPU (6 physical + 6 virtual)
Also hobo running extremly slow (starting tooks a minute+ and other actions - even getinfo and trying to copy it - make window unresponsive, transaction log sorting for ex. makes a hobo-window unresponsive for a minute+ too)
- internet pretty good - let me know how to measure it and where to ping... as for speedtest.net it is 14 ms/10/10mbits
- maxconnections=100

I have an old debug log ~ 26 Mb and I`ll create a new one - let me know which you want or both.
Thanks!

[Tranz]

Just got my first PoSes, it's very attractive to print money from money
I just cant get how this magic works: it looks like it splits the  amount in wallet to lower parts or combines the transactions to make several stakes  ?  
 
And also it looks like i got more than 2% (almost 3 % ) Thats great, but is'nt it a bug  ?

It ranges from 2-6% depending on the length of time it took to stake

[Tranz]

90% of my PoS mined coins currently "Generated but not accepted" why? it was opposite before 90% was accepted...

10% orphan rate is normal. 90% is definitely wrong.

One other person complained of similar issue.  I am gathering more information.

Please answer the following questions.

What version of HBN are you using?

Are you fully up-to-date with the block explorer? As far as the correct block number and difficulty?

What type system are you running on? Win build(if win), ram, cpu?

Is your CPU maxed at one core? IE Hobonickels-qt.exe is taking 25% of a quad core system.

What is your internet type? and latency?

How many connections are you holding?

Please also restart the client with -debug and -printstakemodifier and -printcreation and -printcoinstake -maxconnections=50

Let it run for a bit get a few good stakes or orphans, then please zip up the debug.log and put it somewhere for me to look at. You can PM me the location or post here.

- version is: v1.2.2.3-ge43cb68-hobo
- looks like it is fully up to date:
{
"version" : "v1.2.2.3-ge43cb68-hobo",
"protocolversion" : 70002,
"blocks" : 445602,
"moneysupply" : 2243498.30957900,
"connections" : 8,
"wallets" : 1,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "98.216.202.19",
"difficulty" : 0.63282155,
"testnet" : false,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"errors" : ""
}
- Win 8.1 Pro x64 32Gb Ram i7-3960x
- it is 8% - what is equal to 1 core in 12 core CPU (6 physical + 6 virtual)
Also hobo running extremly slow (starting tooks a minute+ and other actions - even getinfo and trying to copy it - make window unresponsive, transaction log sorting for ex. makes a hobo-window unresponsive for a minute+ too)
- internet pretty good - let me know how to measure it and where to ping... as for speedtest.net it is 14 ms/10/10mbits
- maxconnections=100

I have an old debug log ~ 26 Mb and I`ll create a new one - let me know which you want or both.
Thanks!

So it sounds like you have many many small inputs, trying to stake at once.  This is a common problem with fast staking coins.  I handle this by creating a second wallet(use the new button) (wallet-stake.dat). Then send the coins in 10% batches from the one wallet to the other. I like to wait a few hours between sends.

This should help. You will loose coins days, but only takes 10 days to begin staking again.

To get the wallet to be more responsive to do this action, start it with -reservebalance=9999999. After you have sent the coins to the stake wallet, and they are confirmed, stop the client and restart.

[Tranz]

what payload is on the HBN client? I started to notice the ASIC miners on a computer would start to go on and off while the sticks on other computers were not being affected. Eventually I pinpointed the cause to the HBN client. None of the other clients running on the same computer have any effect on the usb sticks. so the question is obvious, what did you add to the client? I noticed the CPU running at 90%+ used by the HBN client. I will no longer run the client, i will send the coins straight into cryptsy and recommend everyone to do the same

If you solo mined for sometime, then you have MANY MANY small inputs trying to stake. See the post above.

I run multiple wallets and I run ASCIs with no issues at all on same computer. I have quad core. Sounds like you have single core.  So you need keep the inputs for stake down to a reasonable level.

[micax1]

So it sounds like you have many many small inputs, trying to stake at once.  This is a common problem with fast staking coins.  I handle this by creating a second wallet(use the new button) (wallet-stake.dat). Then send the coins in 10% batches from the one wallet to the other. I like to wait a few hours between sends.

This should help. You will loose coins days, but only takes 10 days to begin staking again.

To get the wallet to be more responsive to do this action, start it with -reservebalance=9999999. After you have sent the coins to the stake wallet, and they are confirmed, stop the client and restart.

but If I loose coin days I`ll loose future coins? and coins-days will never restore to the same amount?
I was solomining for a while and all inputs I had - "5" and it`s a lot cause I mined ~6k

any work around to save coin days?
does my 90% orphans PoS problem caused by many transactions?

[Tranz]

So it sounds like you have many many small inputs, trying to stake at once.  This is a common problem with fast staking coins.  I handle this by creating a second wallet(use the new button) (wallet-stake.dat). Then send the coins in 10% batches from the one wallet to the other. I like to wait a few hours between sends.

This should help. You will loose coins days, but only takes 10 days to begin staking again.

To get the wallet to be more responsive to do this action, start it with -reservebalance=9999999. After you have sent the coins to the stake wallet, and they are confirmed, stop the client and restart.

but If I loose coin days I`ll loose future coins? and coins-days will never restore to the same amount?
I was solomining for a while and all inputs I had - "5" and it`s a lot cause I mined ~6k

any work around to save coin days?
does my 90% orphans PoS problem caused by many transactions?

Not sure what you mean by future coins? There is no work around to save coins days.  But after a coin stakes, those days reset anyway. So not much is lost.

Yes 6,000, in 5 block size is too much for the CPU to handle. That is 1,200 inputs going into the CPU at once.

Think of it this way. What you have is like running 1,200 5870s on the same box. If you combine them, it would be like running 10 7950s.  Much more efficient.

All the issues are related.

Combine your coins into another wallet, in 500 chunks, with 2 or 3 hours separating the batches.  Then those coins will start staking very nicely for many many months, until you need to combine again.

Good luck

[rpg]

what payload is on the HBN client? I started to notice the ASIC miners on a computer would start to go on and off while the sticks on other computers were not being affected. Eventually I pinpointed the cause to the HBN client. None of the other clients running on the same computer have any effect on the usb sticks. so the question is obvious, what did you add to the client? I noticed the CPU running at 90%+ used by the HBN client. I will no longer run the client, i will send the coins straight into cryptsy and recommend everyone to do the same

If you solo mined for sometime, then you have MANY MANY small inputs trying to stake. See the post above.

I run multiple wallets and I run ASCIs with no issues at all on same computer. I have quad core. Sounds like you have single core.  So you need keep the inputs for stake down to a reasonable level.

that particular computer has a I5 2.7. The ASIC lights keep going steady when the HBN wallet is running. I have around 50 sticks on that machine.  I haven't run a packet sniffer but is very suspicious that only happens when the HBN client is running

[Tranz]

what payload is on the HBN client? I started to notice the ASIC miners on a computer would start to go on and off while the sticks on other computers were not being affected. Eventually I pinpointed the cause to the HBN client. None of the other clients running on the same computer have any effect on the usb sticks. so the question is obvious, what did you add to the client? I noticed the CPU running at 90%+ used by the HBN client. I will no longer run the client, i will send the coins straight into cryptsy and recommend everyone to do the same

If you solo mined for sometime, then you have MANY MANY small inputs trying to stake. See the post above.

I run multiple wallets and I run ASCIs with no issues at all on same computer. I have quad core. Sounds like you have single core.  So you need keep the inputs for stake down to a reasonable level.

that particular computer has a I5 2.7. The ASIC lights keep going steady when the HBN wallet is running. I have around 50 sticks on that machine.  I haven't run a packet sniffer but is very suspicious that only happens when the HBN client is running

Are you running stakes with many small inputs? If so this is the cause of the high CPU  usage, which could effect other processes. 

But if you are insinuating that there is some type of back door to which is taking your ASCI mining power, well sorry my friend that is not the case. The source is on github, and can be compiled easily.

[Ardolafat]

The Washington Post mentions HoboNickels 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/26/dogecoins-and-litecoins-and-peercoins-oh-my-what-you-need-to-know-about-bitcoin-alternatives/

[smartmining]

hbn.smartmining.net

Thanks. Happy Holidays to you too

Seems down now..

We were DOS'ed. Someone seems to be a little bit envious...

[Tranz]

The Washington Post mentions HoboNickels 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/26/dogecoins-and-litecoins-and-peercoins-oh-my-what-you-need-to-know-about-bitcoin-alternatives/

Cool. Will be nice one day to get a mention without being adjacent to "is this a joke" :-)

[Tranz]

hbn.smartmining.net

Thanks. Happy Holidays to you too

Seems down now..

We were DOS'ed. Someone seems to be a little bit envious...

Glad you are back. 

[stuhlman]

Hello Tranz;

First happy holidays. Yesterday I downloaded the client version : v1.2.2.0-g38a5c87-hobo
I run solo at my rigs using cgminer, I run the client on my laptop, and my rigs access the client through local network.
I have a  few of questions for you:

I am only using the default wallet and did not create any additional wallets, will my mined coins start using my laptop cpu at one point for staking?

Should I create multiple wallets and move the coins in small amounts to those wallets, should I stop my mining while loading/unloading wallets? maybe you can shed some more light on this staking process, also you mentioned coin size in some of your posts, what exactly do you mean by coin size?

What is a the normal rate of orphans, I seem to get more than the 10% mentioned earlier, I estimate those at 20+ percent give or take is there a mining setting to lower this rate?

Last: What is the philosophy behind the HoboNickels? Name choice etc?

Thank you


My Hobo Address : Ej6YUHSKfzgnd2uWZehzvKF1UFfx2KgfEf

[Tranz]

Hello Tranz;

First happy holidays. Yesterday I downloaded the client version : v1.2.2.0-g38a5c87-hobo
I run solo at my rigs using cgminer, I run the client on my laptop, and my rigs access the client through local network.
I have a  few of questions for you:

I am only using the default wallet and did not create any additional wallets, will my mined coins start using my laptop cpu at one point for staking?

Should I create multiple wallets and move the coins in small amounts to those wallets, should I stop my mining while loading/unloading wallets? maybe you can shed some more light on this staking process, also you mentioned coin size in some of your posts, what exactly do you mean by coin size?

What is a the normal rate of orphans, I seem to get more than the 10% mentioned earlier, I estimate those at 20+ percent give or take is there a mining setting to lower this rate?

Last: What is the philosophy behind the HoboNickels? Name choice etc?

Thank you


My Hobo Address : Ej6YUHSKfzgnd2uWZehzvKF1UFfx2KgfEf

Yes your CPU will be used on the mined coins to stake once they age 10 days.  It is generally very low usage, it only gets high if you have many thousand small blocks of coins, try to stake at once.

Creating mulit-wallets (one for mining and one for staking, and one for general spending) is good practice. But it all depends on how many you mine, and how often you plan to move them around. No need to stop mining while loading or unloading wallets.  Encrypted wallets can be problematic, and need to be unlocked once loaded. See walletpassphrase usage.

By coin size I simply mean how man coins were included in a certain transaction.  I like to collect the mined coins in my wallet until they get to 100+ then I move them to staking wallet.  Each person

I get approx 10% orphans on stake, your results may vary, depending on CPU speed/usage and network latency. You can decrease the chance for orphans by increasing the maxconnections. By default it is set to 8, but can be overridden by -maxconnection switch or by use in the conf file. And for mining you can help by setting the scan time to be much lower, like 20 seconds, in cgminer

The name came from the original developer thundertoe. It was thought up during a chat session at Cryptsy's with a few other people.   My plans for the coin is to create a very easy way to give to your favorite charity.  But it is free to be used for any purpose a persons wishes. :-)

Welcome aboard. See our giveaway thread for free coins!