Can you still believe aTriz words? Reopened, too many open questions

[Quickseller]

The script is mine and you are not allowed to leak it. If you do so, you owe me 50 BTC.

What makes you think a non-working script is worth anything, let alone 50 BTC?

If you don't pay up, I'll have to take action myself - and you know what that action is.

When all else fails: blackmail!

If you ask me, the extortion attempt is fake (and a poor fake at that).

According to her sales thread, she was willing to sell up to 15 copies of the script at 0.99BTC/each. Ignoring the fact that no one will ever buy the script, she would have earned a maximum of 14.85BTC.

It would make logical sense for alia to be asking for less than the total she would earn from selling the script via an extortion attempt, not more.

[alia_alt]

The script is mine and you are not allowed to leak it. If you do so, you owe me 50 BTC.

What makes you think a non-working script is worth anything, let alone 50 BTC?

If you don't pay up, I'll have to take action myself - and you know what that action is.

When all else fails: blackmail!

This question got ignored in the other topic, so I try again here:

What happened to alia that made alia_alt take over? Alia was last online 32 hours ago, modlog doesn't show anything, which leaves a temporary ban as a possibility. Or you don't want to join the select group of -9999 users and switched to be less negative?

The script works. And I didn't get banned... I just chose to leave that account

[Astargath]

The script is mine and you are not allowed to leak it. If you do so, you owe me 50 BTC.

What makes you think a non-working script is worth anything, let alone 50 BTC?

If you don't pay up, I'll have to take action myself - and you know what that action is.

When all else fails: blackmail!

This question got ignored in the other topic, so I try again here:

What happened to alia that made alia_alt take over? Alia was last online 32 hours ago, modlog doesn't show anything, which leaves a temporary ban as a possibility. Or you don't want to join the select group of -9999 users and switched to be less negative?

The script works. And I didn't get banned... I just chose to leave that account

Seriously, you are coming back to say this shit? Didn't you already accept that it doesn't work? You told me that my point was ''irrefutable'' but in your empirical evidence you were always winning and that it was a good thing that you stopped selling it.

[o_e_l_e_o]

The script works.

Prove it.

That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

Although, if you really want evidence that it doesn't work, just go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.0

Also, spotted this, made me chuckle:

[nullius]

@Astargath, I transplanted my reply to you to the “alia” scam thread.  @o_e_l_e_o, I will edit in a reply to you there.

[alia_alt]

The script works.

Prove it.

That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

Although, if you really want evidence that it doesn't work, just go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.0

Also, spotted this, made me chuckle:

https://i.imgur.com/TrLA9o8.jpg

Which is why I want my script to be audited...

[tmfp]

aTriz is a scammer. I have proof of him doing some very shady things, including extortion and bribery. Do not trust him.

Fuck you

I have done nothing of this scammy behavior that alia has said I have. She is trying to get me to admit to these things, simply because she has my personal information. My trust is everything and worth more than my privacy. Fuck you, do your worst.

I will answer any questions about this from anyone except quickseller, please re ask your questions since I can't find any right now.

*Ignoring an extortionist accusing someone else of extortion*

aTriz, is there any linkage between alia possessing your personal data and the unprecedented 'signature' deal you did?
I mean, in light of what has transpired, it's not unreasonable to see both the "script" vouch and the large upfront payment being hush money/favor made under threat of doxxing/whatever.
That or not, you appear to have got yourself in a right fucking mess, to be honest.
How on earth does a loose cannon newbie end up with your "personal information"??
Was it freely given?

[alia_alt]

aTriz is a scammer. I have proof of him doing some very shady things, including extortion and bribery. Do not trust him.

Fuck you

I have done nothing of this scammy behavior that alia has said I have. She is trying to get me to admit to these things, simply because she has my personal information. My trust is everything and worth more than my privacy. Fuck you, do your worst.

I will answer any questions about this from anyone except quickseller, please re ask your questions since I can't find any right now.

*Ignoring an extortionist accusing someone else of extortion*

aTriz, is there any linkage between alia possessing your personal data and the unprecedented 'signature' deal you did?
I mean, in light of what has transpired, it's not unreasonable to see both the "script" vouch and the large upfront payment being hush money/favor made under threat of doxxing/whatever.
That or not, you appear to have got yourself in a right fucking mess, to be honest.
How on earth does a loose cannon newbie end up with your "personal information"??
Was it freely given?

The sig campaign was entirely independent. He saw my talent and high quality, and was willing to reserve it for the long run.

[tmfp]

aTriz is a scammer. I have proof of him doing some very shady things, including extortion and bribery. Do not trust him.

Fuck you

I have done nothing of this scammy behavior that alia has said I have. She is trying to get me to admit to these things, simply because she has my personal information. My trust is everything and worth more than my privacy. Fuck you, do your worst.

I will answer any questions about this from anyone except quickseller, please re ask your questions since I can't find any right now.

*Ignoring an extortionist accusing someone else of extortion*

aTriz, is there any linkage between alia possessing your personal data and the unprecedented 'signature' deal you did?
I mean, in light of what has transpired, it's not unreasonable to see both the "script" vouch and the large upfront payment being hush money/favor made under threat of doxxing/whatever.
That or not, you appear to have got yourself in a right fucking mess, to be honest.
How on earth does a loose cannon newbie end up with your "personal information"??
Was it freely given?

The sig campaign was entirely independent. He saw my talent and high quality, and was willing to reserve it for the long run.

Thanks.

[cruso]

The purpose of this thread is to determine if the individual behind the aTriz account should be considered "trustworthy". Is he "trustworthy" after leaving a glowing vouch for the alia groups phony betting script?

Was given a vouch copy of the method by op and played around with in with funds from the faucet.

With the 10 minutes I used this script with, I profited and worked perfectly. Would recommend.

I made an extremely good ROI, and I’m sure that others who buy the method will experience similar results. Thanks, Alia!

Update: This seems to be a shady user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.0 Do not trade with him/her!

The facts of the matter are as follows:

1. alia is a proven scammer and liar
2. The alia group attempted to scam with a phony script (general forum consensus)
3. The alia group contacted aTriz, an upstanding and respected member of the forum to test and review their phony script.
4. The review (vouch) was to assist the scammers sell 15 copies of this phony script @ .99 btc a piece.
5. They had hoped to scam approximately 15 Btc from unsuspecting members of the community with aTriz's help(vouch).
6. aTriz by his own admission has:
        a: Seen the script
        b: Tested the script
        c: Profited from the script
        d: Is no longer certain if the profit he made whilst testing is from the script. He now attributes that to his own dumb luck.
        e: aTriz no longer uses the script.

Forgive me, but the rest of what I have to add to this post concerning aTriz's behavior is pure conjecture. I have no way of verifying whether what I am saying is true or false, make of it what you want.

I may not have any cryptography knowledge, I cannot tell you the difference between bitcoin and bitcoin cash. I have no idea how bots work, for example, I have no idea what SHA-256 hash is (forgive me nullius). However, one thing I understand more than many, thanks to my training, is human nature/behavior.

I’ve been using this forum on and off for a few years and have come across many scammers, but the most dangerous of these lot is the “trusted” scammer.

My apologies, I digress….

I put it to aTriz that he is lying about his involvement in script gate. Not because I am privy to the full details, far from it. But because some things don’t add up.

I will present my different concerns over time (some of us have work to do outside this forum), but let us focus on this for now…

Ask yourselves why aTriz vouched for a phony script? Put yourselves in aTriz’s shoes for a minute.

As far as we know, aTriz is a very busy individual. He has bounties to distribute, posts to count/read, future deals to negotiate, cheaters to catch, SMAS lists to update, icos to promote plus many very important things outside this forum.

So why would aTriz take time out of his very busy schedule to test alia’s phony betting script? Was the bogus vouch paid for? Did he do it as a favor? Is he being blackmailed?

We all know for a fact that the alia group can be very convincing. If they could fool theymos, albeit, for a short period, they could have deceived aTriz or anyone else, no shame there.

Nonetheless aTriz cannot fool aTriz.

I’ll get to the point….

aTriz a known gambler, a self-confessed problem gambler, chanced upon a betting script that delivered as promised the holy grail, the golden goose, something which many a gambler would kill or die for. Something 99.99% of us would pay millions of dollars for, never mind a paltry .99 btc if they could afford it.

aTriz, received this script for free, tested it for 10 minutes, profited (as far as he could tell then, the script worked, he had no idea he was being fooled), reviewed it then binned it!!!

According to aTriz, he never deposited into any casino to make proper profits. What would you have done folks if you were in possession of such a script, with its potential to make you tons of btc? I know what I would have done...

Regarding the deals and other stuff I was mentioned in.

I was only involved with this user around 1 weeks ago, which was when I bought her sig for a reasonable amount. This was when I was unaware of her other behaviors

The deal, IMO would be more profitable as time passes.

Look at this as buying the pharmacist's sig when he was only a member.

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I don't see how the deal with aTriz is related to the other stuff. Why are you writing using the 'he' pronoun here "he shows no evidence.."?

Wait a minute Lauda. Something is very fishy here.

alia all of sudden decided to close this thread  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2966705.msg30479531#msg30479531 because "she has found big investors"(on Feb. 25.) and after that she opened new(self-moderated) thread(on Feb. 26) offering winning script and aTriz confirmed that it is winning script:

Was given a vouch copy of the method by op and played around with in with funds from the faucet.

In my limited experience if it, I profited and worked perfectly. Would recommend.

I made an extremely good ROI, and I’m sure that others who buy the method will experience similar results. Thanks, Alia!

How someone with 7+ trust rate can say such stupid thing in such thread? It is EV- game, such script DOESN'T exist. Also he is recommending something which he has tried from faucet? He said he made extremely good ROI? From faucet?  
That is just fucked up.

Besides, Selling winning scripts is equal to scamming people, and whoever offered such script in past was bashed by everyone  
Also, it would be OK if users mentioned in this locked thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2966705.msg30479531#msg30479531 confirm that they watched her gambling and winning money and not only striping:

   nullius         0.01            0.02              200%
 slaman29     0.1              0.107             107%
  v4d1mm    0.0475           0.052           109%
TelevisionLover  0.1            0.109           109%
SyGambler    0.01            0.012           120%
live:tonyl6         2.5              2.8           112%
    favours         0.8              0.88           110%

I don't even want to comment her illegal money laundry tax evade service.  

I was asked to give a rating on her method that she was selling, and since it was a vouch copy I didn't want to deposit real money, since it would feel like cheating. I also think the reason why I was asked to test was because I would probably be trusted enough to not leak it.

So I farmed the faucet and then used the coins there to gamble. I made like 1.3x of the farmed amount. That seems like a very good ROI if I was to actually deposit.

My knowledge with gambling / scripts is very limited, as you can see from my previous history and I was just speaking from personal experience. I profited so I said that.

aTriz being an honest guy says didn't deposit to use the script because he felt he would be cheating alia, but after discovering the many wonders of the script,  and not wanting to cheat, shouldn't aTriz be alia's first customer/victim?


To be continued...

[alia_alt]

I didn't "fool" theymos in any way... he knows who I am.

And the deal with aTriz was, I give him the script, and in return he was to vouch for whether it worked or not. Plain and simple.

[Joel_Jantsen]

I don't know why there is so much fuss about the topic. Atriz being a naive kid fell for her 'charm' without giving it a logical thought for a second,just like every other boy who blindly establishes trust in a girl who he has just met and finds her attractive.Truth is,we all have been there.Why make him a scapegoat ?

He trusted her with personal information which she is using against him and I'm sure he has learnt a valuable lesson from it.Let's not take this moment to corner him as he already has too many negatives to worry about.

Moreover,what is the point of this thread ? Where are we taking it ? Are we too blind to realise that the entire script thing is a scam and alia is too dumb to make anyone rich ? Let's assume for a second  atriz leaks the script and it turns out to be a waste of money.Should atriz be negative tagged because he fake vouched as he had too much confidence in their just-met friend ali who he assumed will never do something like this ?

[alia_alt]

I don't know why there is so much fuss about the topic. Atriz being a naive kid fell for her 'charm' without giving it a logical thought for a second,just like every other boy who blindly establishes trust in a girl who he has just met and finds her attractive.Truth is,we all have been there.Why make him a scapegoat ?

He trusted her with personal information which she is using against him and I'm sure he has learnt a valuable lesson from it.Let's not take this moment to corner him as he already has too many negatives to worry about.

Moreover,what is the point of this thread ? Where are we taking it ? Are we too blind to realise that the entire script thing is a scam and alia is too dumb to make anyone rich ? Let's assume for a second  atriz leaks the script and it turns out to be a waste of money.Should atriz be negative tagged because he fake vouched as he had too much confidence in their just-met friend ali who he assumed will never do something like this ?

I'm still waiting on RGBKey and ibminer to audit my new script. If they check the numbers and follow along with my bets, I don't think can ever call me a scammer again.

[hilariousetc]

So why would aTriz take time out of his very busy schedule to test alia’s phony betting script?

Pussy probably. This whole alia shenanigans is proof positive that if you can convince someone you're a female people will let their guard down.

We all know for a fact that the alia group can be very convincing. If they could fool theymos, albeit, for a short period, they could have deceived aTriz or anyone else, no shame there.

Hardly fooled. Theymos was just confirming that she had been verified on girlsgonebitcoin or whatever it is. There is a woman involved in some capacity in the shenanigans - she's just obviously not in control of the accounts here and I think we've established it's just some scammer dude taking advantage of a bit of female flesh.

[alia_alt]

So why would aTriz take time out of his very busy schedule to test alia’s phony betting script?

Pussy probably. This whole alia shenanigans is proof positive that if you can convince someone you're a female people will let their guard down.

We all know for a fact that the alia group can be very convincing. If they could fool theymos, albeit, for a short period, they could have deceived aTriz or anyone else, no shame there.

Hardly fooled. Theymos was just confirming that she had been verified on girlsgonebitcoin or whatever it is. There is a woman involved in some capacity in the shenanigans - she's just obviously not in control of the accounts here and I think we've established it's just some scammer dude taking advantage of a bit of female flesh.

Still waiting on a trusted member to Skype me and interview me. Nobody has taken me up on my offer yet. Please don't spout bullshit if you do not have proof.

[hilariousetc]

So why would aTriz take time out of his very busy schedule to test alia’s phony betting script?

Pussy probably. This whole alia shenanigans is proof positive that if you can convince someone you're a female people will let their guard down.

We all know for a fact that the alia group can be very convincing. If they could fool theymos, albeit, for a short period, they could have deceived aTriz or anyone else, no shame there.

Hardly fooled. Theymos was just confirming that she had been verified on girlsgonebitcoin or whatever it is. There is a woman involved in some capacity in the shenanigans - she's just obviously not in control of the accounts here and I think we've established it's just some scammer dude taking advantage of a bit of female flesh.

Still waiting on a trusted member to Skype me and interview me. Nobody has taken me up on my offer yet. Please don't spout bullshit if you do not have proof.

I've already said there's obviously a female involved in some capacity and that's been established. If I get my girlfriend/sister/mother/grandmother/girlnextdoor to do a skype session with a trusted member does that make me a female? No. How many camgirls are there that just so happen to be into bitcoin (and lending it), tax evasion and trying to flog gambling scripts? It's beyond a joke that you're even keeping up this rouse. I honestly don't know whether to pity or congratulate you at this point, but you've got bigger balls than I have that's for sure.

[Quickseller]

So why would aTriz take time out of his very busy schedule to test alia’s phony betting script?

Pussy probably.

If you believe this, what exactly do you think aTriz thought would happen as a result of this situation? Bear in mind that he agreed to pay her over $12,000 for something that could quite reasonably be purchased for a lot less, and the country they both claim to live in are quite far from eachother, along with the fact that aTriz previously claimed to have received no sexual related show.

[alia_alt]

So why would aTriz take time out of his very busy schedule to test alia’s phony betting script?

Pussy probably. This whole alia shenanigans is proof positive that if you can convince someone you're a female people will let their guard down.

We all know for a fact that the alia group can be very convincing. If they could fool theymos, albeit, for a short period, they could have deceived aTriz or anyone else, no shame there.

Hardly fooled. Theymos was just confirming that she had been verified on girlsgonebitcoin or whatever it is. There is a woman involved in some capacity in the shenanigans - she's just obviously not in control of the accounts here and I think we've established it's just some scammer dude taking advantage of a bit of female flesh.

Still waiting on a trusted member to Skype me and interview me. Nobody has taken me up on my offer yet. Please don't spout bullshit if you do not have proof.

I've already said there's obviously a female involved in some capacity and that's been established. If I get my girlfriend/sister/mother/grandmother/girlnextdoor to do a skype session with a trusted member does that make me a female? No. How many camgirls are there that just so happen to be into bitcoin (and lending it), tax evasion and trying to flog gambling scripts? It's beyond a joke that you're even keeping up this rouse. I honestly don't know whether to pity or congratulate you at this point, but you've got bigger balls than I have that's for sure.

I think you're just braindead. Do you know what an interview means? I will come on camera, and I will answer any questions about bitcoin, lending, tax evasion, gambling scripts, so on and so forth. And me answering these questions to a trusted member in a live video call will conclusively prove who I am. If I am unable to answer those questions, then I guess I'm a 15 year old boy who hired a hooker! Pretty cut and dry here.

So why would aTriz take time out of his very busy schedule to test alia’s phony betting script?

Pussy probably.

If you believe this, what exactly do you think aTriz thought would happen as a result of this situation? Bear in mind that he agreed to pay her over $12,000 for something that could quite reasonably be purchased for a lot less, and the country they both claim to live in are quite far from eachother, along with the fact that aTriz previously claimed to have received no sexual related show.

I made the offer non-negotiable. For reasons, I keep deals at minimums of 1.1 BTC, 1.2 BTC and 1.3 BTC. On top of this, you're very wrong. I looked at google maps, seems like Singapore to USA is at least 8-10 times more than Singapore to Australia. Rip logic, QS.

An interesting thing to note. aTriz told me he was 21. He then told me he had a 17 y/o cousin who may visit Singapore on a vacation. Later on, he revealed to me that he is actually 17. I think it's pretty obvious what his intentions are were.

[Deathspell-Omega]

Guys, please do not answer on alias posts anymore. Thank you.

Yeah, because fuck reason and logic! To hell with all of that!

Oh shut up already you cheap Thailand whore you!

[TMAN]

Guys, please do not answer on alias posts anymore. Thank you.

Yeah, because fuck reason and logic! To hell with all of that!

Oh shut up already you cheap Thailand whore you!

I like you Deathspell-Omega