[ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading

[LunarSeventh]

Right like its so difficult to give people a headsup when they are buying on cryptopia! Come on! This is a scam and you know it!

Several announcements were made across multiple platforms, even by the community members, trying to reach everyone.

Sadly, not everyone was reached.

Bullshit i have read the PACCOIN website prior to buying NO WARNINGS! Also, the warning would have worked for EVERYONE if it were on the cryptopia market! This is bullshit! I want my money back!

Once upon a time there was Bitcointalk, an international forum where experts and innovators exchanged opinions, advice, technical details.
Now there are mostly unprepared people. They say 'wonderful coin' when price goes up, they shout 'scam shit coin' when price goes down!
There is always a project behind a coin, but people are not interested in it.

Scam it is in fact a phenomenon in which someone takes your coins and then runs away.
No one in these months has behaved like that, dev $PAC team updates users every day on their official channels.
Your problem is that you bought on the peak, as can easily prove by Coinmarketcap charts.
There is no doubt that the value will rise again, but not in a week as everyone here would like.
Many people have bought BTC when was $20,000, now it is $11,000, BTC is a scam coin too?

Official website
https://paccoin.net

Official Twitter
https://twitter.com/paccoinofficial?lang=en

Official Help Desk
https://twitter.com/PAC_HelpDesk?lang=en

Official Discord
https://discord.gg/tTPa5KD

Whoever wants to inform can do it.
Who wants to do what others does and trust them too, I will always call them ignorant.

If you want to start a discussion about research start reading my previous comments before you judge me. I have never said anything of what you say here. I am saying i have a wallet the one day it holds .043 btc in value, the next day its value is 0.009 btc you can sit here and tell me im dumb for buying in  a peak, but thats nonsense. The value was .043 i can prove that. The next day the exchange happens and suddenly the value is less. You are all telling me the same sobbing story, that noone here is going to believe. Value doent change like that. If it says i have 100 euro in my wallet it doesnt vanish like that! The problem is that no-one warned me about the value dropping lower then the posible lowest price in btc. The team updated everyone YET THERES NOTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE DURING OR PRIOR TO THE PAC TO BTC RELEASE. Now stop acting like we are dumb investors. We are the reason you have more money now, stop being a bunch of dicks and start to see what is being said here. I dont need their website links, i have them i have been on their twitter account from late last year. What you are saying is bullshit, there were NO WARNINGS and if there were SHOW THEM.

[llvlludassar]

I held responsible Sal wolf, Brad, Cryptopia and Bill "old owner" for selling their worthless old pacs @1, 2 sats, they all made shitload of money out of us and now calling us naive and idiots for overpaying.

- Pac team should have stopped BTC/PAC market at any cost, knowing that coins was much cheaper than 1sat.
- Pac team should have made clear on their website not to buy from cryptopia and btc market
- Pac team should have fixed the wallet on cryptopia so at least ppl could withdraw and sell them on lesser loss.
- If wallet was fixed at least we could withdraw and stake our coins to cut the losses!

Instead our coins were held hostage at cryptopia and forced swap 1000-1, who the fuk are you to decide for our investment. we did not ask you to swap our coin. I dont care if i get nothing for them but i did not fuking ask you to swap my coins.

[scheffe]

this is the biggest shitcoin in the crypto world.
went from 0.1 btc to 0.017 btc thanks to the swap you inflicted on us.
no one should invest in this scam. no screenshots of any warnings. filling your pockets with our money.

[etienne_marais]

Any indication from Cryptopia when their wallet will be operational for withdrawals ?

[GimoIng]

If you want to start a discussion about research start reading my previous comments before you judge me. I have never said anything of what you say here. I am saying i have a wallet the one day it holds .043 btc in value, the next day its value is 0.009 btc you can sit here and tell me im dumb for buying in  a peak, but thats nonsense. The value was .043 i can prove that. The next day the exchange happens and suddenly the value is less. You are all telling me the same sobbing story, that noone here is going to believe. Value doent change like that. If it says i have 100 euro in my wallet it doesnt vanish like that! The problem is that no-one warned me about the value dropping lower then the posible lowest price in btc. The team updated everyone YET THERES NOTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE DURING OR PRIOR TO THE PAC TO BTC RELEASE. Now stop acting like we are dumb investors. We are the reason you have more money now, stop being a bunch of dicks and start to see what is being said here. I dont need their website links, i have them i have been on their twitter account from late last year. What you are saying is bullshit, there were NO WARNINGS and if there were SHOW THEM.

Don't be naive, I know what I say. PAGES of this!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg29221509#msg29221509

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg28317915#msg28317915

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27713921#msg27713921

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27692209#msg27692209

[GimoIng]

Any indication from Cryptopia when their wallet will be operational for withdrawals ?

Monday, as long as Cryptopia said

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/969812069892501504

[LunarSeventh]

If you want to start a discussion about research start reading my previous comments before you judge me. I have never said anything of what you say here. I am saying i have a wallet the one day it holds .043 btc in value, the next day its value is 0.009 btc you can sit here and tell me im dumb for buying in  a peak, but thats nonsense. The value was .043 i can prove that. The next day the exchange happens and suddenly the value is less. You are all telling me the same sobbing story, that noone here is going to believe. Value doent change like that. If it says i have 100 euro in my wallet it doesnt vanish like that! The problem is that no-one warned me about the value dropping lower then the posible lowest price in btc. The team updated everyone YET THERES NOTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE DURING OR PRIOR TO THE PAC TO BTC RELEASE. Now stop acting like we are dumb investors. We are the reason you have more money now, stop being a bunch of dicks and start to see what is being said here. I dont need their website links, i have them i have been on their twitter account from late last year. What you are saying is bullshit, there were NO WARNINGS and if there were SHOW THEM.

Don't be naive, I know what I say. PAGES of this!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg29221509#msg29221509

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg28317915#msg28317915

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27713921#msg27713921

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27692209#msg27692209

FFS

ON THEIR WEBSITE / TWITTER / CRYPTOPIA

[LunarSeventh]

I held responsible Sal wolf, Brad, Cryptopia and Bill "old owner" for selling their worthless old pacs @1, 2 sats, they all made shitload of money out of us and now calling us naive and idiots for overpaying.

- Pac team should have stopped BTC/PAC market at any cost, knowing that coins was much cheaper than 1sat.
- Pac team should have made clear on their website not to buy from cryptopia and btc market
- Pac team should have fixed the wallet on cryptopia so at least ppl could withdraw and sell them on lesser loss.
- If wallet was fixed at least we could withdraw and stake our coins to cut the losses!

Instead our coins were held hostage at cryptopia and forced swap 1000-1, who the fuk are you to decide for our investment. we did not ask you to swap our coin. I dont care if i get nothing for them but i did not fuking ask you to swap my coins.

Agreed x 1000! (True value too!)

[Savrion]

But now something else (by the way, my english is very bad, but who care's execpt morons)

How will the Pac-team promoot the new coin and what is there marketing budget to clear the bad name of this coin?

* And one other question: I just bet on Man.City -  Chelsea, in Euro's. But will it be possible to bet in the future in $Pac's on soccer-game's and where can i do that in the future to lose more Pac's than i already did Or win.........

By the way, the max. supply is how much $pac's ?

[BITCOINPAC2018]

If you want to start a discussion about research start reading my previous comments before you judge me. I have never said anything of what you say here. I am saying i have a wallet the one day it holds .043 btc in value, the next day its value is 0.009 btc you can sit here and tell me im dumb for buying in  a peak, but thats nonsense. The value was .043 i can prove that. The next day the exchange happens and suddenly the value is less. You are all telling me the same sobbing story, that noone here is going to believe. Value doent change like that. If it says i have 100 euro in my wallet it doesnt vanish like that! The problem is that no-one warned me about the value dropping lower then the posible lowest price in btc. The team updated everyone YET THERES NOTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE DURING OR PRIOR TO THE PAC TO BTC RELEASE. Now stop acting like we are dumb investors. We are the reason you have more money now, stop being a bunch of dicks and start to see what is being said here. I dont need their website links, i have them i have been on their twitter account from late last year. What you are saying is bullshit, there were NO WARNINGS and if there were SHOW THEM.

Don't be naive, I know what I say. PAGES of this!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg29221509#msg29221509

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg28317915#msg28317915

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27713921#msg27713921

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27692209#msg27692209

99% of people who invested in this shitcoin did not read this forum.  Why would they? its not called Paccoin talk is it?

Paccoin should have communicated this through their OFFICIAL channels.  Better yet if they actually gave a fuck they would have asked Crooktopia to not open the BTC Pair as it would harm their investors.

But they DIDN'T for all the reasons people have called out.  I hope this coin and company burn and die.  I don't even care if my money goes to zero which it almost has due to all the SCAMMING they have done.

[BITCOINPAC2018]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i49_qhMciuQ


This should get us started! New Zealand Financial Authority compalint form!!  https://fma.govt.nz/contact/make-a-complaint/make-a-complaint-online/#UserForm_Form New Zealand Financial Authority market website!

Check this guy out too shillin the coin after all this shit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxEEXf8_Uc0

[GimoIng]

99% of people who invested in this shitcoin did not read this forum.  Why would they? its not called Paccoin talk is it?

Paccoin should have communicated this through their OFFICIAL channels.  Better yet if they actually gave a fuck they would have asked Crooktopia to not open the BTC Pair as it would harm their investors.

But they DIDN'T for all the reasons people have called out.  I hope this coin and company burn and die.  I don't even care if my money goes to zero which it almost has due to all the SCAMMING they have done.

Sorry man, if you had at least read the links (obviously not, because reading is tiring ) you would have found the answer!
Now I will do the work for you, but next time you do your homework 

"...On PacCoin website there is a big warning on buying Pac on BTC/PAC market, because a little change between 1 and 2 sat on BTC market make you loose a half of your money!..."

On Yobit.net there was BTC/PAC pair too. Big warning also for Yobit, if you read the thread you can find MANY refferrals.

Now I am very tired, in Italy today there are national political elections. Talking with you is like trying to convince my grandmother not to vote Berlusconi again! She will do the same 

 

[LunarSeventh]

99% of people who invested in this shitcoin did not read this forum.  Why would they? its not called Paccoin talk is it?

Paccoin should have communicated this through their OFFICIAL channels.  Better yet if they actually gave a fuck they would have asked Crooktopia to not open the BTC Pair as it would harm their investors.

But they DIDN'T for all the reasons people have called out.  I hope this coin and company burn and die.  I don't even care if my money goes to zero which it almost has due to all the SCAMMING they have done.

Sorry man, if you had at least read the links (obviously not, because reading is tiring ) you would have found the answer!
Now I will do the work for you, but next time you do your homework  

"...On PacCoin website there is a big warning on buying Pac on BTC/PAC market, because a little change between 1 and 2 sat on BTC market make you loose a half of your money!..."

On Yobit.net there was BTC/PAC pair too. Big warning also for Yobit, if you read the thread you can find MANY refferrals.

Now I am very tired, in Italy today there are national political elections. Talking with you is like trying to convince my grandmother not to vote Berlusconi again! She will do the same  

 

You are so in on this! Thats why you don't want Berlusconi as a president, your affraid his maffia will steal your PAC!

On the paccoin website there is NO MESSAGE in the BLOG: https://blog.paccoin.net/

I guess its in the IMPORTANT NEWS then!? NO ITS NOT! https://blog.paccoin.net/important-news/

Your the worst type of pastaman, you scam your grandmother and everyone else!!

[GimoIng]

... your affraid his maffia will steal your PAC!

   

[LunarSeventh]

... your affraid his maffia will steal your PAC!

   

Im happy you finally agree you lied about the warnings!

[BITCOINPAC2018]

99% of people who invested in this shitcoin did not read this forum.  Why would they? its not called Paccoin talk is it?

Paccoin should have communicated this through their OFFICIAL channels.  Better yet if they actually gave a fuck they would have asked Crooktopia to not open the BTC Pair as it would harm their investors.

But they DIDN'T for all the reasons people have called out.  I hope this coin and company burn and die.  I don't even care if my money goes to zero which it almost has due to all the SCAMMING they have done.

Sorry man, if you had at least read the links (obviously not, because reading is tiring ) you would have found the answer!
Now I will do the work for you, but next time you do your homework 

"...On PacCoin website there is a big warning on buying Pac on BTC/PAC market, because a little change between 1 and 2 sat on BTC market make you loose a half of your money!..."

On Yobit.net there was BTC/PAC pair too. Big warning also for Yobit, if you read the thread you can find MANY refferrals.

Now I am very tired, in Italy today there are national political elections. Talking with you is like trying to convince my grandmother not to vote Berlusconi again! She will do the same 

 

Stop lying you fucking nonce.  There were NO warnings on ANY official PAC site, maybe they put something on after they flooded all their shit coins onto Crooktopia and crashed the market and then held peoples money in their wallets and closed the market maybe?

[prototip]

99% of people who invested in this shitcoin did not read this forum.  Why would they? its not called Paccoin talk is it?

Paccoin should have communicated this through their OFFICIAL channels.  Better yet if they actually gave a fuck they would have asked Crooktopia to not open the BTC Pair as it would harm their investors.

But they DIDN'T for all the reasons people have called out.  I hope this coin and company burn and die.  I don't even care if my money goes to zero which it almost has due to all the SCAMMING they have done.
[/quote]

Hey, the Russians and Putin are to blame for everything! 

[GimoIng]

Im happy you finally agree you lied about the warnings!

This is not me, someone else saw that warning
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27688266#msg27688266

status update

While Cryptopia is still down with LTC and DOGE trading to any other coin including PAC, Yobit opened PAC-DOGE trading.

Please keep in mind that, due to the low price of a single PACcoin, it is not a good idea to trade PAC/BTC (as mentioned on the PACcoin website). With the current PACcoin, you can only trade against entire satoshi's, so 1 or 2 or 3 and so on. But you need to be able to trade with more accuracy (example: 1,89576).

With the new PAC coin that will be released on Feb 1, this will be possible very well since 3 zero's will dissapear.
Keep in mind that the price information on CoinMarketCap is inaccurate due to the fact that Cryptopia paused.

The PAC future insights can be found here, take a close look at page 8, this document looks very good:
https://www.docdroid.net/0PtkXDK/paccoin-future-insights.pdf

The new PAC website will be released soon.
On Jan 19, there will be a live streamed Q&A with the DEVs.
   
   

https://twitter.com/PACcoinOfficial/status/950342367508393985
"Cryptopia traders of PAC - we are recommending that people move their PAC to an offline wallet until they stabilize what they are doing."

[GimoIng]

...Stop lying you fucking nonce...

I do not think it's a case of offending anyone.
If we remain correct we can discuss and maybe learn something,  otherwise stay with your ideas. I'm not really interested in helping you.

The next time you buy a coin, look at this forum, if you are lucky you will find someone like me who will help you not to make mistakes, perhaps.

[PacSharedMasternodes.com]

Im happy you finally agree you lied about the warnings!

This is not me, someone else saw that warning
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27688266#msg27688266

status update

While Cryptopia is still down with LTC and DOGE trading to any other coin including PAC, Yobit opened PAC-DOGE trading.

Please keep in mind that, due to the low price of a single PACcoin, it is not a good idea to trade PAC/BTC (as mentioned on the PACcoin website). With the current PACcoin, you can only trade against entire satoshi's, so 1 or 2 or 3 and so on. But you need to be able to trade with more accuracy (example: 1,89576).

With the new PAC coin that will be released on Feb 1, this will be possible very well since 3 zero's will dissapear.
Keep in mind that the price information on CoinMarketCap is inaccurate due to the fact that Cryptopia paused.

The PAC future insights can be found here, take a close look at page 8, this document looks very good:
https://www.docdroid.net/0PtkXDK/paccoin-future-insights.pdf

The new PAC website will be released soon.
On Jan 19, there will be a live streamed Q&A with the DEVs.
   
   

https://twitter.com/PACcoinOfficial/status/950342367508393985
"Cryptopia traders of PAC - we are recommending that people move their PAC to an offline wallet until they stabilize what they are doing."

When investing in a new coin always go on Coinmarketcap and under "Markets" tab check Pairings PAC/BTC, PAC/DOGE, PAC/USDT, etc and look at Price verses Total Volume. The Sell wall for the PAC/BTC pairing was over 700 BTC because there was 0 volume being traded at that pairing.

Cryptopia is at fault because they shut down their DOGE/LTC market because PAC caused to much volume for site to handle. PAC made an official Twitter post about removing coins from Cryptopia long before the Auto Swap was finalized.