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December 10, 2017, 07:49:14 PM
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if I remember correctly 15.11.1 works and does win 7/8/8.1/10 on these cards can get from guru3d here or other stable drivers are 14.4 and 14.9 I think

they may be old but great way to heat your place in the winter months  Grin

you dont really need to use twitter I am fine with posting or pm here and I dont like Facebook myself Wink

-thanks for an info about the drivers- I already checked them and downloaded from Guru3D

-not many people these days do not have Facebook - nice to find one here
-heating is one of reasons to put these 3 in a rig - we got a winter here so they can mine and heat the house

  thanks a lot!
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December 17, 2017, 10:32:38 PM
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This is going to be strange question but it related to blakecoin.  If you were going to start today and attempt to incorporate a previously unsupported compute processor into mining blake; what would be the mining software that you would start with as a base?  cpuminer, cgminer, poclbm, bfgminer, something else?  If the answer is start from clean paper design, is there good modules for UI and stratum/getwork that can be used?

At work, I stumbled into a cache of e-waste medical imaging cards and some of them are AMD based on the R600 series GPU.  At the present time, the R600 series is not supported by any official AMD driver for OpenCL since they were CAL cards.  Mesa and the Gallium tracker doesn't have support for these chips, just some of the later HD4000 series cards.  I have looked for a CAL miner that I might hack in blake256r8 support but some of those were private back in the day and I can't find source.  I saw in a couple of posting here in bitcointalk that I need to find again about some experiments to use OpenGL Shader Language which both the Mesa 3d drivers and last official AMD driver supports.  The post included sample SHA256D code which gives me some good refernce to start from.  BD had posted sometime back optimized modules in different languages for using blake so that is sometime to look at as well.

Why use old and obsolete GPU when a better card is available anywhere?  These cards on paper have more shaders then many of the Nvidia cards that I have so for a practical reason it might be worth exploring.  I like learning and the idea that a GLSI is technically mire cross-platform than OpenCL is technically interesting to me.  It is certainly not going to make me wealthy but that was never the point.  Using discarded equipment and learning about blockchains and cryptocurrency WAS the point.

Sorry if sounded a little preachy there..some other coworkers with Antminers have no idea why I work with unusual equipment.
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December 18, 2017, 07:30:11 AM
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This is going to be strange question but it related to blakecoin.  If you were going to start today and attempt to incorporate a previously unsupported compute processor into mining blake; what would be the mining software that you would start with as a base?  cpuminer, cgminer, poclbm, bfgminer, something else?  If the answer is start from clean paper design, is there good modules for UI and stratum/getwork that can be used?

At work, I stumbled into a cache of e-waste medical imaging cards and some of them are AMD based on the R600 series GPU.  At the present time, the R600 series is not supported by any official AMD driver for OpenCL since they were CAL cards.  Mesa and the Gallium tracker doesn't have support for these chips, just some of the later HD4000 series cards.  I have looked for a CAL miner that I might hack in blake256r8 support but some of those were private back in the day and I can't find source.  I saw in a couple of posting here in bitcointalk that I need to find again about some experiments to use OpenGL Shader Language which both the Mesa 3d drivers and last official AMD driver supports.  The post included sample SHA256D code which gives me some good refernce to start from.  BD had posted sometime back optimized modules in different languages for using blake so that is sometime to look at as well.

Why use old and obsolete GPU when a better card is available anywhere?  These cards on paper have more shaders then many of the Nvidia cards that I have so for a practical reason it might be worth exploring.  I like learning and the idea that a GLSI is technically mire cross-platform than OpenCL is technically interesting to me.  It is certainly not going to make me wealthy but that was never the point.  Using discarded equipment and learning about blockchains and cryptocurrency WAS the point.

Sorry if sounded a little preachy there..some other coworkers with Antminers have no idea why I work with unusual equipment.

well cgminer is a good ref for stratum but with opengl hmm maybe not

Chiguireitor(UMO dev) did do some work on a webgl miner some time back and tbh that would be best place to start but I dont think he released the source (probably due to beta/alpha code) might be an idea to drop him a line here or via his twitter @johnvillarz and see if he can help point you in right direction before you go too deep  Cheesy

on side note next year might start to see asic's for blake256r8 so not sure too much work on GPU/FPGA is best time spent unless its for learning or fun  Cool

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December 18, 2017, 09:51:57 PM
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Asics for blake256?! This is news to me, where is there info on this? I know decred will have asics coming out in 6 months or so, but that is 14 round blake256. Will those support changing the number of rounds and be compatible with blakecoin block headers? If not, would you consider switching BLC to blake256r14 so we can take advantage of the decred asics?
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December 18, 2017, 10:08:56 PM
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well cgminer is a good ref for stratum but with opengl hmm maybe not

Chiguireitor(UMO dev) did do some work on a webgl miner some time back and tbh that would be best place to start but I dont think he released the source (probably due to beta/alpha code) might be an idea to drop him a line here or via his twitter @johnvillarz and see if he can help point you in right direction before you go too deep  Cheesy

on side note next year might start to see asic's for blake256r8 so not sure too much work on GPU/FPGA is best time spent unless its for learning or fun  Cool

I will address the second point first.  I have heard rumors but I haven't seen anything that is solid yet.  If you have better information then please share it if you can.  I was under the impression that the blake256r8 ecosystem was not capitalized enough to justify the tapeout costs of an ASIC.  I have been mining on eu3 and I never see more then 20 miners at a time.  If an ASIC is made then I will be very disappointed since I really don't want/can't get involved in a arms race.  Until the dark day arrives, then I am trying to spend up GPU and FPGA

Your first point is useful to me and thanks.  WebGL is a JavaScript binding and probably not what I am looking for but it is interesting nonetheless.  This is the post that I was referring to.  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4618.40
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December 18, 2017, 10:17:39 PM
Last edit: December 18, 2017, 10:43:01 PM by BlueDragon747
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Asics for blake256?! This is news to me, where is there info on this? I know decred will have asics coming out in 6 months or so, but that is 14 round blake256. Will those support changing the number of rounds and be compatible with blakecoin block headers? If not, would you consider switching BLC to blake256r14 so we can take advantage of the decred asics?

no need to switch and no would not switch just for asics anyways, current released info on the miner shows that blake256r8 is half the power usage of blake256r14 still want to switch?  Roll Eyes

Decred also has other differences in headers(size) that make switching or merging very hard it would definitely create issues along with a hard fork *too risky imho

I have sent a direct message to the manufacture of the miner to confirm Blakecoin compatibility as its just the serialization of the merkle in work gen its all in software e.g cgminer/sgminer

the company has already released some miners for other algos x11/x10 which imho is better than others asic producers/designers that are trying to pre sale Blake asics

not going to public link to them until I have at least got a reply about compatibility


well cgminer is a good ref for stratum but with opengl hmm maybe not

Chiguireitor(UMO dev) did do some work on a webgl miner some time back and tbh that would be best place to start but I dont think he released the source (probably due to beta/alpha code) might be an idea to drop him a line here or via his twitter @johnvillarz and see if he can help point you in right direction before you go too deep  Cheesy

on side note next year might start to see asic's for blake256r8 so not sure too much work on GPU/FPGA is best time spent unless its for learning or fun  Cool

I will address the second point first.  I have heard rumors but I haven't seen anything that is solid yet.  If you have better information then please share it if you can.  I was under the impression that the blake256r8 ecosystem was not capitalized enough to justify the tapeout costs of an ASIC.  I have been mining on eu3 and I never see more then 20 miners at a time.  If an ASIC is made then I will be very disappointed since I really don't want/can't get involved in a arms race.  Until the dark day arrives, then I am trying to spend up GPU and FPGA

Your first point is useful to me and thanks.  WebGL is a JavaScript binding and probably not what I am looking for but it is interesting nonetheless.  This is the post that I was referring to.  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4618.40


yeah but some designers do use a modular approach to design thus supporting multiple algos makes sense when you think of x11 asics tbh

as far as arm race well its gold rush crypto people gonna make money selling spades/picks/shovels/wheelbarrows asics  Roll Eyes

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December 18, 2017, 11:32:55 PM
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OK that's cool, I think vcash also uses blake256r8 so they may be targeting that. Or if its for 14 round Blake they could design it to optionally iterate 8 rounds instead, getting a second hash algo "for free". Hope its compatible with blakecoin, even though I don't like the arms-race nature of PoW, it may bring wider adoption. As for switching blc to blake256r14, I agree that's not ideal, just got myself excited for a moment Tongue I remember when decred was about to launch, I tried convincing them to use 8 rounds instead of 14, but they were already too far along and had their reasons for sticking with r14. Oh well
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December 25, 2017, 04:52:46 PM
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I'm searching for the bitstream for the fpga ztex 1.15x.
Unfortunately the dropbox-links from https://github.com/kramble/FPGA-Blakecoin-Miner/blob/master/bitstreams.txt don't work anymore.
The bitstream is named "hal7_ztex_ufm1_15d4_2core_v04.bit".
Can somebody upload or send me the bitstream, please?
Thank you in advance and continue to have a nice Christmas.
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Last edit: December 26, 2017, 11:12:03 AM by BlueDragon747
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I'm searching for the bitstream for the fpga ztex 1.15x.
Unfortunately the dropbox-links from https://github.com/kramble/FPGA-Blakecoin-Miner/blob/master/bitstreams.txt don't work anymore.
The bitstream is named "hal7_ztex_ufm1_15d4_2core_v04.bit".
Can somebody upload or send me the bitstream, please?
Thank you in advance and continue to have a nice Christmas.

I am sorry checked and I only have the bitstream for ztex 1.15y and not 1.15x  Cry

I know rupy and hal7 had it so you could try and ask them

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December 26, 2017, 11:36:50 AM
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I'm searching for the bitstream for the fpga ztex 1.15x.
Unfortunately the dropbox-links from https://github.com/kramble/FPGA-Blakecoin-Miner/blob/master/bitstreams.txt don't work anymore.
The bitstream is named "hal7_ztex_ufm1_15d4_2core_v04.bit".
Can somebody upload or send me the bitstream, please?
Thank you in advance and continue to have a nice Christmas.
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can i earn BLC when i play blakezone game?
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December 29, 2017, 01:31:48 PM
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can i earn BLC when i play blakezone game?

not currently  Roll Eyes

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can i earn BLC when i play blakezone game?

not currently  Roll Eyes
so what will game do?
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December 29, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
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can i earn BLC when i play blakezone game?

not currently  Roll Eyes
so what will game do?

you play it online once its further along than it currently is *currently it is not released

if you never play a Shooter online you maybe dont understand  Huh


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can i earn BLC when i play blakezone game?

not currently  Roll Eyes
so what will game do?

you play it online once its further along than it currently is *currently it is not released

if you never play a Shooter online you maybe dont understand  Huh


ok bro, can i join yours slack chanel or discord?
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December 29, 2017, 03:26:54 PM
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can i earn BLC when i play blakezone game?

not currently  Roll Eyes
so what will game do?

you play it online once its further along than it currently is *currently it is not released

if you never play a Shooter online you maybe dont understand  Huh


ok bro, can i join yours slack chanel or discord?

not until things are further along already have testers for closed beta thanks  Cheesy


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December 29, 2017, 06:14:56 PM
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can i earn BLC when i play blakezone game?

not currently  Roll Eyes
so what will game do?

you play it online once its further along than it currently is *currently it is not released

if you never play a Shooter online you maybe dont understand  Huh


ok bro, can i join yours slack chanel or discord?

not until things are further along already have testers for closed beta thanks  Cheesy


how long to until that?
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how long to until that?

as long as it takes I dont have any eta on public releases

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Last edit: December 30, 2017, 05:18:26 PM by BlueDragon747
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need to do some maintenance on eu3

Edit:
done should be running better now but any issues let me know *all non mature coins paid

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 Grin Grin....The potential of BLC is enormous, seriously. We should increase development, more capital .... BLC very practical value.
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