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June 16, 2018, 09:04:48 PM
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Any info about Miningspeed ,new algo please update in thread. Also any Amd card miner updates
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June 16, 2018, 09:28:11 PM
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https://twitter.com/VandarGR/status/1008091820763607042?s=19

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June 16, 2018, 09:34:34 PM
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I was around in late 2013 when BTC went from $600 to $1000 then quickly dropped to $200 right around April. So it's exactly a 4 year mirror for me. Started in Dec 2013 left in April 2014. Big mistake. Started again in Dec 2017 and this time I'm not leaving.

Back then BTC dropped 80% in value.

We are not there yet at this time. It will go 80% below its $19,500 peak point.  So it will linger around $4000 range until a huge push starting in may and accelerating in Sept of 2021 with a new peak of around $100K in Jan 2022. At that time BTCz shoud hit 10 cents which is enormous 50x gain from where it is now. It may even be at top 100 if we all stick together and believe in our devs.

What many dont appreciate enough here in altcoin world is   the core dev teams, the ones who put the code together. When you consider how many ICOs are out there - which means you don't mine but you BUY coins from the devs and that's why they are considered securities, rightfully so - and they all turn into a bunch of greedy ones who cash their ICOs into Ether and get out.

Now you get maybe 20% left across 500+ projects that are mineable. That's still 100 plus coins but then majority were taking over by ASICs so they are subject to daily mine-n-dump by those who are ASIC bagholders trying to get NOI. The fastest BTC miner the S9 loses $2.5 in electricity cost in California. Maybe it makes some money in China.

That leaves you with a handful of coins. Let's talk Equihash for now. VOT is a nice project, the dev is a hardcore programmer but he has a little premine and doesn't seem to be very interested in expanding his project.

If you take out anyone like Snowgem with 5% dev tax and ZCash with 20% dev tax you are left with only a handful of projects that resemble the old days of BTC. Devs working purely for the technology and not to get rich overnight.  That also means no budget for marketing and listing on exchanges. Not many exchanges are fine. But we all need to use donating pools for projects marketing budget.

Ethereum was massively premined for greedy Vitalik. Probably ordered by Putin himself. That's why most ICOs are sold in Europe because of its proximity to Russia and Putin. They are sucking the wealth out of Europe, as usual like they have been with energy, with fabricated ICOs mostly coming out of the old eastern block. Luckily many are banned in the USA.

BTC was also instamined about 1M coins in the genesis block but those have never been moved and possibly never will as many suspect Satoshi is dead.

BTCz and ZCL are two of the only active coins I know with no dev fee and no premine. Well ZCL started as an honest project by Rhett but was played and pumped and dumped into an illusionary BTCP project. I personally got caught myself and bought into some ZCL hype and the BTCP ended up being a loss. ZCLs converted to BTCP were only less than 4M coins. But millions of free BTCP coins entered the market by those who had no skin in the game, never mined, just had a bunch of BTC (like Bittrex) and cashed out the freely airdropped BTCP against those who bought ZCL at $120 to get a single BTCP. They used Rhett, as a front as the show kid and Cryptojack , Tai Zen and his  other buddy just raped the project. It was so bad even Coinbase blocked Tai Zens account, (a few days after BTCP was dumped to oblivion and cashed into BTC) for massive BTC deposit and sale to fiat as they did some investigation on him. He took it to twitter and admitted it himself that his Coinbase account was suspended for withdrawals. And if that was not enough greed, with BIP9 the devs will then take over the BTCP coins from those 10M BTC owners who never claimed their BTCP. That is estimated to bring in $200M+ for the devs in their BIP9 theft scheme mainly run by CryptoJack. At this point they kicked Rhett out too, they don't need the poster kid. So this is what BIP9 theft technology really is: if you have BTC and never claimed your BTCP free coins, the devs will take over and sell them for their own profit. It's right in their white paper. That's on top of the donated 30,000 BTCP they dumped in the first days.

Now you have BTCz . An honest project that is rare. In my 4.5 years in Crypto, this is the only one with a solid team. Ones who stick to it and keeps it moving. Because of its low budget, some devs have gotten cold feet, moved on to other projects or made another project.  But we still have an amazing team if great devs who are working tirelessly in the recent advances.

For example as a plus to BTCz, almost none of other new projects have an Andorid wallet of their own (Coinami and Freewallet dont count). That's a red flag right there. Why? Because you need a credit card, address, name, ID and have to pay a $100 fee per year to open an Android dev account and upload an app. That would expose one's identity and not a good idea for a scammer team. It would also show the dev team is most probably not from some scammer slum in nowwhereland but from a decent neighborhood in the US, Canada or Europe. Someone who cares about his life, doesn't want to go to jail and is not planning on stealing your money. BTCz is the only Equihash coin with a branded wallet of its own. Even ZCash doesn't have one. Many never will even though they have it listed in their copy/paste road maps.

The devs also worked hard to kill the A9/Z9 ASICs recently. That was a huge undertaking that required cooperation of tens of exchanges and mining pools. I don't think many really know what effort it really took to get where we are a few hours from fork. And even now they are working on fending off the time warp attackers.

Now there you have it. The choice is yours.  You can buy massively overpriced EOS coins at $10 BILLION marketcap that were created by Dan out of thin air, in literally 15 minutes of ERC20 copy and paste or invest time and money in a project that matters with a solid road map and micro tiny $2M marketcap that has massive upside potential.

See you in 2022!

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June 16, 2018, 09:39:02 PM
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Does anyone have a link to a new Zhash miner for AMD GPUs?

I've only seen nvidia/cuda mentioned here.

And I'm using MyBitcoinZ wallet.
If someone has a link to an update for this wallet after the fork, can you please provide that too?

Thank you.
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June 16, 2018, 09:55:21 PM
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Hey BTCZ Community,

ZhashOS has finally been released. Check it out and give any suggestons:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1854250.msg18447374#msg18447374
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June 16, 2018, 11:18:50 PM
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I wish good luck for the idea!
Brilliant website, discerning idea, interesting job.
Yup, big community, mostly common people, pure coin, but lot of patience is needed. Probably few more years. Lot of people (including me) lose patience from time to time, but always come back to BTCZ.

I have no affiliate link, no bounty, no signature campaign... Only Proof Of Work!
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June 16, 2018, 11:32:16 PM
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I was around in late 2013 when BTC went from $600 to $1000 then quickly dropped to $200 right around April. So it's exactly a 4 year mirror for me. Started in Dec 2013 left in April 2014. Big mistake. Started again in Dec 2017 and this time I'm not leaving.

Back then BTC dropped 80% in value.

We are not there yet at this time. It will go 80% below its $19,500 peak point.  So it will linger around $4000 range until a huge push starting in may and accelerating in Sept of 2021 with a new peak of around $100K in Jan 2022. At that time BTCz shoud hit 10 cents which is enormous 50x gain from where it is now. It may even be at top 100 if we all stick together and believe in our devs.

What many dont appreciate enough here in altcoin world is   the core dev teams, the ones who put the code together. When you consider how many ICOs are out there - which means you don't mine but you BUY coins from the devs and that's why they are considered securities, rightfully so - and they all turn into a bunch of greedy ones who cash their ICOs into Ether and get out.

Now you get maybe 20% left across 500+ projects that are mineable. That's still 100 plus coins but then majority were taking over by ASICs so they are subject to daily mine-n-dump by those who are ASIC bagholders trying to get NOI. The fastest BTC miner the S9 loses $2.5 in electricity cost in California. Maybe it makes some money in China.

That leaves you with a handful of coins. Let's talk Equihash for now. VOT is a nice project, the dev is a hardcore programmer but he has a little premine and doesn't seem to be very interested in expanding his project.

If you take out anyone like Snowgem with 5% dev tax and ZCash with 20% dev tax you are left with only a handful of projects that resemble the old days of BTC. Devs working purely for the technology and not to get rich overnight.  That also means no budget for marketing and listing on exchanges. Not many exchanges are fine. But we all need to use donating pools for projects marketing budget.

Ethereum was massively premined for greedy Vitalik. Probably ordered by Putin himself. That's why most ICOs are sold in Europe because of its proximity to Russia and Putin. They are sucking the wealth out of Europe, as usual like they have been with energy, with fabricated ICOs mostly coming out of the old eastern block. Luckily many are banned in the USA.

BTC was also instamined about 1M coins in the genesis block but those have never been moved and possibly never will as many suspect Satoshi is dead.

BTCz and ZCL are two of the only active coins I know with no dev fee and no premine. Well ZCL started as an honest project by Rhett but was played and pumped and dumped into an illusionary BTCP project. I personally got caught myself and bought into some ZCL hype and the BTCP ended up being a loss. ZCLs converted to BTCP were only less than 4M coins. But millions of free BTCP coins entered the market by those who had no skin in the game, never mined, just had a bunch of BTC (like Bittrex) and cashed out the freely airdropped BTCP against those who bought ZCL at $120 to get a single BTCP. They used Rhett, as a front as the show kid and Cryptojack , Tai Zen and his  other buddy just raped the project. It was so bad even Coinbase blocked Tai Zens account, (a few days after BTCP was dumped to oblivion and cashed into BTC) for massive BTC deposit and sale to fiat as they did some investigation on him. He took it to twitter and admitted it himself that his Coinbase account was suspended for withdrawals. And if that was not enough greed, with BIP9 the devs will then take over the BTCP coins from those 10M BTC owners who never claimed their BTCP. That is estimated to bring in $200M+ for the devs in their BIP9 theft scheme mainly run by CryptoJack. At this point they kicked Rhett out too, they don't need the poster kid. So this is what BIP9 theft technology really is: if you have BTC and never claimed your BTCP free coins, the devs will take over and sell them for their own profit. It's right in their white paper. That's on top of the donated 30,000 BTCP they dumped in the first days.

Now you have BTCz . An honest project that is rare. In my 4.5 years in Crypto, this is the only one with a solid team. Ones who stick to it and keeps it moving. Because of its low budget, some devs have gotten cold feet, moved on to other projects or made another project.  But we still have an amazing team if great devs who are working tirelessly in the recent advances.

For example as a plus to BTCz, almost none of other new projects have an Andorid wallet of their own (Coinami and Freewallet dont count). That's a red flag right there. Why? Because you need a credit card, address, name, ID and have to pay a $100 fee per year to open an Android dev account and upload an app. That would expose one's identity and not a good idea for a scammer team. It would also show the dev team is most probably not from some scammer slum in nowwhereland but from a decent neighborhood in the US, Canada or Europe. Someone who cares about his life, doesn't want to go to jail and is not planning on stealing your money. BTCz is the only Equihash coin with a branded wallet of its own. Even ZCash doesn't have one. Many never will even though they have it listed in their copy/paste road maps.

The devs also worked hard to kill the A9/Z9 ASICs recently. That was a huge undertaking that required cooperation of tens of exchanges and mining pools. I don't think many really know what effort it really took to get where we are a few hours from fork. And even now they are working on fending off the time warp attackers.

Now there you have it. The choice is yours.  You can buy massively overpriced EOS coins at $10 BILLION marketcap that were created by Dan out of thin air, in literally 15 minutes of ERC20 copy and paste or invest time and money in a project that matters with a solid road map and micro tiny $2M marketcap that has massive upside potential.

See you in 2022!

Nice read.
The bold part is why I advocate here to implement some dev fee in Zhash miner. Or at least, make two versions, one with and one without donation.
While some might say "But why? Just mine on pools that donate to devs." - Well, I want the flexibility to choose whatever pool I want, even the one that doesn't donate to devs. This way, my miner will always donate to devs.
But I still think you should add a forced dev fee. Most of us miners have been mining with software which force fee to the creator of the mining software. One percent from everyone's mine is not a big deal, but the total hash donation will bring that very needed support for this coin to move forward faster.

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June 16, 2018, 11:41:43 PM
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Should I be getting accepted shares on Suprnova if Block 160,000 hasn't happened yet?  --- So far the speed is 35 sols on a GTX 1080 Ti @ 80% power, Core +125, Memory Stock, on the new EWBF miner.
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June 16, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
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Should I be getting accepted shares on Suprnova if Block 160,000 hasn't happened yet?  --- So far the speed is 35 sols on a GTX 1080 Ti @ 80% power, Core +125, Memory Stock, on the new EWBF miner.

It's showing correct hash for me, although I see these errors:
Round Progress: 11,068,752.48 %
Difficulty: 1.00

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June 16, 2018, 11:50:52 PM
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I tried to download Zhasher and went here:
https://github.com/btcz/zhasher

But it says this: -------- !OBSOLETE! Please use EWBF's miner as it has a 10x improvement over Zhasher!
So wtf, we are to use EWBF miner which has 2% fee and doesn't donate to BTCZ devs? Also his miners uses 2.9gb which is definitely not gonna work on Windows 10, maybe not even Windows 7. So I have to install fucking Linux? I WILL NOT use Linux. If I am forced into that shit OS I will move my hash to some other coin.
Why is Zhasher obsolete?

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June 16, 2018, 11:55:55 PM
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Introducing ZHashOS by Overdrive5 @ Discord

ZhashOS a EZ Micro Linux USB Flash Drive OS w/New EWBF, setup in 9 EZ steps

Thanks for your great work Overdrive5 !!!



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June 16, 2018, 11:58:04 PM
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My 980ti MCU load on the regular equihash with dstm is 75% but on ewbf 144.5 it's only 19%. Is there anything I can do? Or is it ewbf that has to configured differently?
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June 17, 2018, 12:00:10 AM
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I'm going to sleep.
You guys fucked up pointing us to EWBF with his 2% fee that goes NOWHERE but in his own pockets.
Also, trying his miner shows my 1080Ti mining 30SOL, which is equal to 1070, lol. I don't even want to know how much my 13x1060 3gb will perform.
What a freaking mess. I will mine something else until this shit is sorted out.

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June 17, 2018, 12:06:22 AM
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I tried to download Zhasher and went here:
https://github.com/btcz/zhasher

But it says this: -------- !OBSOLETE! Please use EWBF's miner as it has a 10x improvement over Zhasher!
So wtf, we are to use EWBF miner which has 2% fee and doesn't donate to BTCZ devs? Also his miners uses 2.9gb which is definitely not gonna work on Windows 10, maybe not even Windows 7. So I have to install fucking Linux? I WILL NOT use Linux. If I am forced into that shit OS I will move my hash to some other coin.
Why is Zhasher obsolete?

Relax man - I just finished testing on 9 separate rigs, all of them use Windows 10 and 3 of them have GTX 1060s (3GB and 6Gb both). The miner works fine on all of them.

*Some of the GTX 1080 Ti GPUs are up to 49 sols each so far.... continuing to monitor them to see if that's the peak or not.
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June 17, 2018, 12:33:16 AM
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Good night, guys. I suppose it is a great project!
Able to recognize plan, riveting idea!
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June 17, 2018, 12:43:59 AM
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Good night, guys. I suppose it is a great project!
Able to recognize plan, riveting idea!

You're a bot, right?

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June 17, 2018, 12:52:51 AM
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I'm going to sleep.
You guys fucked up pointing us to EWBF with his 2% fee that goes NOWHERE but in his own pockets.
Also, trying his miner shows my 1080Ti mining 30SOL, which is equal to 1070, lol. I don't even want to know how much my 13x1060 3gb will perform.

This is a new Algo, so some cards maybe better than others. Last week with Zhasher, your card was getting 4 sols and now it gets 30 sols. We never asked EWBF to make his software, but he did. It's great and if you read the instructions, you can even set the fee to 0% without penalty!

What a freaking mess. I will mine something else until this shit is sorted out.

Okay, more for us! Sounds like you would just dump it anyways.
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June 17, 2018, 01:27:57 AM
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Seems very interesting!
Engaging plan, blameless results!  Good luck guys!
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June 17, 2018, 02:43:21 AM
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Just encountered that my recent two payments from suprnova didn't arrive. They are not shown in the wallet and they don't have TX# in pool's transaction history. What could be wrong?
All my regular earnings are sent. One large (8x normal, its unusual) earning is stuck without a TX. Not sure if he checks them manually.

At first mine were regular too. Now they got glued into one large, still stuck, still no TX.
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June 17, 2018, 04:40:06 AM
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My 7x 1070 Rig regularly does 3100 Sol/S

With EBWF Miner I get about 209 Sol/s

Is this about right?

I wish we had a calculator to see what we are doing. Right now we are in the dark lol

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