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August 22, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
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much scam, very unwow.


the usual pre-order drama. its not a scam, they are devoloping technology, so I suppport it, much wow.

Stockholm syndrome?

nah, Alpha plant. No argument, just Ignored. -M

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August 22, 2014, 01:47:13 PM
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Sad some went through this. Terrahash was the company that almost got me.  I luckily was within paypal 45 day period.

With it being out chances are slim since most likely most of money went to Alpha.  But i would call paypal to at least try.  If you used a creditcard ontop of paypal call the card you might have a longer period.

Sadly I see this going twords legal actions unless something changes.

i dont see taking any legal actions to bring something now. at the moment the company is producing your product. no court in the world would destroy that now.

making now a claim or sending them emails about court and stuff is useless.Its just emotions from the customers.

every court will see alpha-t as a crowdfunding project.

Preordering a product does not make something a crowd funding project. Thank god the courts are not as stupid as you.
Rofl...... this is something completely stupid like Alpha would say..... "You can't sue us in any town but our own." "We have broken no terms." "You are a business customer."  ... and now some fool saying this is a crowd funding project... Lol... shut the f*ck up
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August 22, 2014, 01:48:43 PM
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Oh, and the update is I have mailed back my confirmation of taking Alpha to court after they have tried to defend their lies. This will be in the UK court's hands on Monday.
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August 22, 2014, 08:19:24 PM
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So Alpha blocking guests from visiting their forums now? Or they are getting personal and blocking IPs?
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August 22, 2014, 08:42:02 PM
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Oh, and the update is I have mailed back my confirmation of taking Alpha to court after they have tried to defend their lies. This will be in the UK court's hands on Monday.

Same here, mine should be arriving by Monday.  Good luck with your claim!
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August 23, 2014, 12:14:52 AM
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5 weeks to the end of September ...

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August 23, 2014, 01:50:52 AM
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much scam, very unwow.


the usual pre-order drama. its not a scam, they are devoloping technology, so I suppport it, much wow.

Good then there are a lot of people here that will give you a deal by selling the order to you for BTC.

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August 23, 2014, 10:41:56 AM
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Oh, and the update is I have mailed back my confirmation of taking Alpha to court after they have tried to defend their lies. This will be in the UK court's hands on Monday.

How did you manage to claim in the UK? I'm about to start this process but not sure where to look.

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August 23, 2014, 11:00:16 AM
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Sad some went through this. Terrahash was the company that almost got me.  I luckily was within paypal 45 day period.

With it being out chances are slim since most likely most of money went to Alpha.  But i would call paypal to at least try.  If you used a creditcard ontop of paypal call the card you might have a longer period.

Sadly I see this going twords legal actions unless something changes.

i dont see taking any legal actions to bring something now. at the moment the company is producing your product. no court in the world would destroy that now.

making now a claim or sending them emails about court and stuff is useless.Its just emotions from the customers.

every court will see alpha-t as a crowdfunding project.

Isn't it a British registered company? If that is the case, I don't see why legal action is not possible.

You can also bring civil lawsuit and sue the CEO for negligent.

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August 23, 2014, 11:26:18 AM
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i will have my alpha tech asic IN my home within 5 weeks and 3 days!!!

woooohoooooo!!!


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August 23, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
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Terrahash was the company that almost got me, I could not find the thread with good information.

But basically try paypal (chances are slim if paypal has released the money to the company and it's been 45 days).   Then hope credit card company if used a CC. They are all different but some there is a chance.

Here is a example of a company being sued for fraud with bitcoin terrahash - http://www.sccaseinfo.org/pa6.asp?full_case_number=1-13-CV-254284&crumbs=Civil%20Index&crumbs=Party/Case%20Type%20Search&crumbs=Party/Case%20Type%20Results&crumbs=Cases%20Involving%20Amir%20Kahn

You will see it's a slow and long process. I don't know how this compares to with company being in UK.   But sadly in terrahash a lot lost their money.

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Sad some went through this. Terrahash was the company that almost got me.  I luckily was within paypal 45 day period.

With it being out chances are slim since most likely most of money went to Alpha.  But i would call paypal to at least try.  If you used a creditcard ontop of paypal call the card you might have a longer period.

Sadly I see this going twords legal actions unless something changes.

i dont see taking any legal actions to bring something now. at the moment the company is producing your product. no court in the world would destroy that now.

making now a claim or sending them emails about court and stuff is useless.Its just emotions from the customers.

every court will see alpha-t as a crowdfunding project.



that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.  No court in the world gives two shits if a company is producing a product.  If they've violated the rights of the consumer, which Alpha has, they are going to stick a red hot poker up their ass.  if you're not already a shill you should apply for a job.  you can go suck Mubasher's dick for money, if you are not Mubasher already.  If you are Mubasher, which seems likely to me, you can go suck your own cock, asshole.  Go bang your mother while you're at it.  Tell her she is not a mother and cite a tax brief categorizing her as a whore while you're drilling out her ass and emptying her purse.



Anyhow, I've been watching this stuff with Alpha for a while, had a pre-order in for 2 large units.  My credit card company gave me my money back Friday.

Fuck you, Alpha Technologies.  And fuck you Mubasher, you low-life prick.  Trying to fuck people out of their money by making up the law as you go along is about to get very expensive for you.  Your attorneys will pick the meat from your bones and laugh at how they walked you down the path right into the courtroom so they could billable-hour your ass to death.

Seeing as you tried to assfuck me out of about 6,000US (18,000 if I'd been dumb enough to pay the balance) I'm going to help whoever I can get their money out of your shitty fucking company, run by children with no hair on their balls or brains in their heads.



Here's how I went about this, for those trying to get their money back.  Obviously, I paid via cc, so I was lucky, but for those prepping court docs, I think this applies also.

I obviously pointed out the DSR and quoted the following:

“Under the DSRs, a customer’s right to cancel is unconditional.
If customers cancel before they have received the goods, you must refund the total price of the goods, including any delivery charges.
If they cancel, they can refuse to accept delivery of the goods. This cannot be treated as a breach of contract.”
I obviously cited the DSR and quoted the following:  

DSR is here:  http://dshub.tradingstandards.gov.uk/dsrexplained

I stated that Alpha was not denying that this law would apply to consumers, but rather was trying to recategorize their customers as businesses rather than consumers.

I stated that I was not a business and also that no representation was made by Alpha prior to sale that these sales would be treated as sales to a business.  Further to that I pointed out that the tax brief they repeatedly cite was issued AFTER my purchase and that it clearly states that it is for tax purposes only:


“The tax treatments outlined in this brief are for tax purposes only. They in no way reflect on the treatment of cryptocurrencies for regulatory or other purposes.

Given the evolutionary nature of these cryptocurrencies, HMRC will issue further guidance as appropriate.

Issued 3 March 2014”



What I also cited, which may be new to some people, is the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008, which prohibits material omissions of fact, among other things.  This omission of intent to categorize this as a B2B sale prior to sale is a material fact that was not disclosed prior to sale.  Alpha T is in violation of several things in this law.  I would recommend anyone trying to get a refund read that entire thing, there is plenty in there that can be used.

It is located here:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2008/9780110811574/regulation/6



I'll also tip my cap to whoever has the fightalpha.net site up.  There is a ton of good info there in terms of statements on delivery dates, etc, that can be used.  I came across it after I filed my stuff but for those going in now it is a good resource.  I will contact him on the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations law so it can be added to his site, as I think that's important.  That law nullifies their entire claim to be able to simply recategorize consumers as businesses, among other things.



Put together your materials in an organized fashion and file.  For the items cited, cite their own e-mails to back them up.  If you have an e-mail discussion going cite that also.  You have a very good shot at getting your money back.  If it's through a Credit Card company or PayPal it's a slam dunk, IMO.  In those cases simply point out that, yes, it's been after 45 days or whatever, however the breach of consumer law happened after that 45 day period and still before delivery.  I would also recommend going to your CC company first.  I've run across material on PayPal that they will try to argue for the vendor, with whom their interest lies, so go to the CC company first if possible.  If you have to deal with PayPal, go for it.  I've seen some people argue successfully there also.

In terms of court filings, go through the materials above and cite the laws, and how their statements and actions have conflicted with them.  I think you have a very good shot there also.  I would do it ASAP, as I think these guys *will eventually fold under the legal strain and expense, so get your claims in before they fold their tents and run for the hills.  

*Standard Disclaimer*  **I'm not a lawyer and this is not to be construed as legal advice.  It's my opinion of their position and what worked for me.  Hope it works for you if you decide to pursue a refund**

Good Luck.

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August 24, 2014, 01:33:49 PM
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Oh, and the update is I have mailed back my confirmation of taking Alpha to court after they have tried to defend their lies. This will be in the UK court's hands on Monday.

How did you manage to claim in the UK? I'm about to start this process but not sure where to look.

Cheers

see this site:  fightalpha.net

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August 24, 2014, 01:41:01 PM
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Also here: http://www.abunchacrap.com/Alpha01052014/atindex.html

I suggest you don't delay.
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August 24, 2014, 01:57:38 PM
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Also here: http://www.abunchacrap.com/Alpha01052014/atindex.html

I suggest you don't delay.


Yep, do it right now.  Stop listening to the noise coming out of Alpha and take action immediately.

Even if these do show up in September, which I doubt, they are likely losers.  If you want to see your money, you'll have to do something and the sooner the better.  You don't want to end up at the end of the line on this one.

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August 24, 2014, 07:45:44 PM
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any new updates regarding the actual miner ? or any news regarding their company(+shares) ?? -.-
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August 24, 2014, 07:57:36 PM
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any new updates regarding the actual miner ? or any news regarding their company(+shares) ?? -.-

SOON!   Grin
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August 24, 2014, 10:59:50 PM
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 "2 weeks"  Cheesy
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August 24, 2014, 11:20:37 PM
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Please don't speculate.  we will issue a statement soon.

until then no questions, and all posts not loving us will be deleted.

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August 25, 2014, 12:48:51 AM
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Well, I got my $ back from Amex and already bought 50KH hosted Hashlet from GAW for $799 - $10 coupon.
Cant say I miss Alpha, but still waiting on Terrahash refund. lol
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