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Author Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy  (Read 76918 times)
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September 01, 2019, 06:13:50 PM
Last edit: September 01, 2019, 09:46:17 PM by MarquiseMuseum
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WAVES was an excellent platform for my project to reach wealthy investors in Russia and introduce the portfolio of investment art to this user base. It took some time to prepare the IEO price of $M-II but now raised 3000 dollars in 24 hours based off 2/3 of supply with another third in reserve for liquidity and cryptobook cycling.

If you are a new project with some real use case, it is very likely that you will be able to raise a small amount of capital here and importantly get exposure to thousands of rich people by using the automatic airdrop service from read tokens which have their own telegram where you can place orders. Airdrop to 5000 active users cost only 4 waves and then the amount of your token that should be included to each receiver.

New projects should have these things in order before launching:

1. User friendly website, perhaps on squarespace, and bitcointalk and twitter or other social media with detailed updates
2. Original White paper
3. Good product presentation
4. Token economics calculated before public offer
5. Regular weekly airdrops with 5 cents or more sent to each user on this platform so that they can feel that it is worth something to use your projects token
6. Non reissuable token
7. Bounty for token upvotes on tokenrating to get your project 4 stars or more, all voters should receive airdrops for voting as long as needed as an incentive to upvote your project
8. Complete logistics chain to produce and deliver your product or service

Waves can become a perfect platform for Fortune 500 companies who want to migrate to blockchain and already have customer base and services available. It is enough if only 1 big player like Rolex enter this market for this coin to go parabolic $200 or more. It is much easier to use than XCP or ETH and it offers much more detailed token tracking through pywaves compared to Stellar.

There is no other platform in the world where you can advertise your product for 4 dollars to thousands of wealthy users. CPM on wall street journal digital ads is hundreds of times more than on Waves. CPM on google adwords is similarly order of magnitude more expensive considering this ultra targeting that is available on waves.

Projects can include tailored messages with token airdrops which means this is like twitter but much more interactive, like stocks where you can send a message to all traders and advertise your stock.

So this is like a combined twitter and product platform for selling services and merchandise, it only takes some trigger to be at $20 billion market cap and I belive that streamlined Dex UI (it's already very good since the recent updates), coin sorting by volume fin tabs, community qualified voting instead of bettertokens (which is centralized), spreading the use case of waves through partnership invitations with fortune 500 or small businesses, making pywaves like wavescap UI, increasing price of token minting from 1 waves to 50-100 to remove spammers and make it more upscale, marketing the platform to upscale businesses in general. widgets with 1 click trade button integration so new users are onramped easily.

Waves is already partnering with gaming industry and the team should have a look at game lobby UI's for inspiration here, it's very suited for gamification and there is some gambling games already. Casino UI's are also a good match here.

Waves itself is maturing from the founders phase which is heavily text and code based, to the early adopter phase which is more user friendly adapted. The critical turning point here in market valuation is when the already present but hidden value, is revealed to the public through UI streamlining and marketing. There are many exotic tools here that simply does not exist anywhere outside crypto but people do not understand how they function, and when they see the and understand use case the value will explode.

My project went from A to Z on waves in 1 year so I have a complete overview of the status here at a crucial timing aswell so looking forward to retiring wealthy by this valuation error of Waves which probably occurs once every decade. I have seen a few during my 15 years in stocks, it doesn't happen often like this. Been hoarding alot of coins. Bought ETH at $7 in april 2016, similar situation.

All first time buyers should research what waves is before going all in, I would advise a few thousand dollars depending on your equity level. It will be more than plenty for economic independence from profit in 24 months time. And if all fails, then the loss is not so significant.

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September 02, 2019, 01:55:25 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2019, 04:56:46 PM by crypto_trader#43xzEXrP
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Is it possible to switch "decimals value" for already existing token?
For example, token has decimals=0, and total supply is 100000000.
If decimals will be changed to 8, then total supply will be 1.00000000?
I think this can be allowed for issuer, and realized, using transactions with "type=data".
The same, can be realized, for example - for changing the invalid name of the token, change the ticker (if already exist).
Example: http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/AbunLGErT5ctzVN8MVjb4Ad9YgjpubB8Hqb17VxzfAck

Asset ID          : AbunLGErT_blah-blah-blah_gjpubB8Hqb17VxzfAck (cann't be changed)
Name              : Waves World_Oh_my_hands (can be changed, by issuer, if some error exist)
Symbol            : WW (can be changed, by issuer, because this seems, like a ticker of existing WayaWolfCoin (WW))
Issuer            : 3PJfWdEz_blah-blah-blah_cpZPVkqUm3 (cann't be changed)
Reissuable        : False (cann't be changed)
Decimals          : 0 (can be changed by issuer, without triggering the bots)
Total supply      : 999978719 (cann't be changed)
Max supply        : 999978719 (cann't be changed)
Circulating       : 605822420 (cann't be changed)

Also, I saw some pictures in blockchain, as dataURL. This was been transactions, with "type=data"
How to add picture for the token?

Also, is it possible to realize, the token transfer, without need WAVES to pay comissions?
For example, something like guarda-wallet, but for WAVES-TOKENS.
Just to receive, hold, and transfer the tokens:
1. Sign in into the wallet.
2. See there the tokens, and balance.
3. Transfer to another wallet, without any comissions.
Maybe, this can be realized, if issuer can pay comissions for all transfers of his tokens.

Also, I saw some transactions, where comissions are paid from another existing tokens.
For example, this transaction: https://wavesblockexplorer.com/#!/tx/3UbXoqC6hhNkXyNMyRSeZ38gQJiaqhNc6z8Rv6R9y1xR
Fee: 1 Bitlink, not 0.001 WAVES.
How it possible?

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September 02, 2019, 02:18:19 PM
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Is it possible to switch "decimals value" for already existing token?
For example, token has decimals=0, and total supply is 100000000.
If decimals will be changed to 8, then total supply will be 1.00000000?
Also, I saw some pictures in blockchain, as dataURL. This was been transactions, with "type=data"
How to add picture for the token?

Also, is it possible to realize, the token transfer, without need WAVES to pay comissions?
For example, something like guarda-wallet, but for WAVES-TOKENS.
1. Sign in into the wallet.
2. See there the tokens.
3. Transfer to another wallet, without any comissions.
Maybe, this can be realized, if issuer can pay comissions for transfer his tokens.

Also, I saw some transactions, where comissions are paid from another existing tokens.
For example, this transaction: https://wavesblockexplorer.com/#!/tx/3UbXoqC6hhNkXyNMyRSeZ38gQJiaqhNc6z8Rv6R9y1xR
Fee: 1 Bitlink, not 0.001 WAVES.
How it possible?
Hello. The supply can be adjusted or deducted only in case of token burning and adding new tokens to a circulating supply if it's been created as a "Reissuable" one.
You can receive a logo, a ticker symbol which will be displayed on the exchange and other advantages only if your asset has successfully gone through the verification process by our partner BetterTokens.
You can start the application process on this page (https://bettertokens.org/application-progress#/). Also, all specifications related to the service, terms & conditions, ETAs and requirements can all be found on there.

Sincerely,
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September 02, 2019, 02:24:08 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2019, 04:54:02 PM by crypto_trader#43xzEXrP
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Is it possible to switch "decimals value" for already existing token?
For example, token has decimals=0, and total supply is 100000000.
If decimals will be changed to 8, then total supply will be 1.00000000?
Also, I saw some pictures in blockchain, as dataURL. This was been transactions, with "type=data"
How to add picture for the token?

Also, is it possible to realize, the token transfer, without need WAVES to pay comissions?
For example, something like guarda-wallet, but for WAVES-TOKENS.
1. Sign in into the wallet.
2. See there the tokens.
3. Transfer to another wallet, without any comissions.
Maybe, this can be realized, if issuer can pay comissions for transfer his tokens.

Also, I saw some transactions, where comissions are paid from another existing tokens.
For example, this transaction: https://wavesblockexplorer.com/#!/tx/3UbXoqC6hhNkXyNMyRSeZ38gQJiaqhNc6z8Rv6R9y1xR
Fee: 1 Bitlink, not 0.001 WAVES.
How it possible?
Hello. The supply can be adjusted or deducted only in case of token burning and adding new tokens to a circulating supply if it's been created as a "Reissuable" one.
You can receive a logo, a ticker symbol which will be displayed on the exchange and other advantages only if your asset has successfully gone through the verification process by our partner BetterTokens.
You can start the application process on this page (https://bettertokens.org/application-progress#/). Also, all specifications related to the service, terms & conditions, ETAs and requirements can all be found on there.

Sincerely,
Waves Community Manager
Hello, I didn't say about really change the total supply, but about changing the decimals.
Total supply in my case - this is the same value, 100000000 units (tokens or token-satoshies).
I can change this myself, in waves-lite-client, inside the scripts, and this working without problem.
But here: http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/ASSET_ID, this value is hardcoded.
So, I say about just change some values, and in my case "decimals=x".
Is this possible, technically, to programmimg this and to allow change that data for issuer?
Or for the richest holder(s), if issuer is dead, or lost seed/private_key...
Something, like a rebranding...




I see also, on this picture, you wanted to add off-chain messaging. Is this already realized?
This is good idea!
You can add something, like BitMessage
and open the way to write some messages - for the address owner.
This will be better, than using a special token "Read Attachment" to do the on-chain messaging.

Maybe, you can using ECC (Elliptic-Curve-Cryptography),
and maybe, this is assymetric cryptography.
That means, you can encrypt messages by pubkey (or address), and allow to decrypt this messages only by the owner's priv_key.
In this case messages - will be encoded as a points, on the Montgomery-elliptic curve.
But... Not address using for encrypt messages, and pubkey must be published to using ECC.
This is not secure, because maybe, can be provided the attack to solve discrette-logarithm.
So, I think, will be better to generate another, empty address, to do messaging,
and associate this address with the main address in blockchain, using the transaction "type=data".
Also, there is possible to using TOX, and TOX_id can be attached to the address, also, using the transaction with "type=data".
In this case, why don't do the profile for each address (empty by default),
but with avatars, email, fax, contact data, description, apartaments, etc...
Of cource, only if anyone really want to specify this...

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September 03, 2019, 02:09:58 PM
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There's another thread on this, but I'll also bring the info (and question) here: it looks like Wavesbet and McAfee have partnered.
While it's an unexpectedly good advertising for Waves, a question arise: is Wavesbet affiliated in any way with Waves (team)?

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September 04, 2019, 07:50:58 AM
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There's another thread on this, but I'll also bring the info (and question) here: it looks like Wavesbet and McAfee have partnered.
While it's an unexpectedly good advertising for Waves, a question arise: is Wavesbet affiliated in any way with Waves (team)?
i dont know if its a good thing about Mcafee being partner with wavesbet...

but then again waves bet is not wavesplatform Smiley

so all ads for wavesplatform are welcome...

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September 04, 2019, 11:57:50 AM
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I want to buy waves but I cant, because I have been trained by sasha that waves only goes down and I am guaranteed to lose money buying. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SASHA. Can t  buy waves because you trained us to know it ONLY LOSES MONEY! EVERYDAY WAVES GOES DOWN

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September 05, 2019, 06:18:40 AM
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I want to buy waves but I cant, because I have been trained by sasha that waves only goes down and I am guaranteed to lose money buying. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SASHA. Can t  buy waves because you trained us to know it ONLY LOSES MONEY! EVERYDAY WAVES GOES DOWN
LOL! Grin
You can buy and just don't sell, within 5 years, for example.
WAVES DEX is not a BITMEX, there is no any risk orders, leverage and liquidations - just buy and sell.
Of course don't buy for ALL MONEY - on the downtrend...
And $2.5-$0.7 is good for bying for long-term investment, IMHO.
Because now all waiting, and traders just sold earlier, and while primitive holding the BTC and USD,
they just wait their profit in WAVES ("sell & fly" trading stategy).

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September 05, 2019, 05:14:38 PM
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I want to buy waves but I cant, because I have been trained by sasha that waves only goes down and I am guaranteed to lose money buying. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SASHA. Can t  buy waves because you trained us to know it ONLY LOSES MONEY! EVERYDAY WAVES GOES DOWN
The current market situation is really bad, If you invest in any altcoin it probably will go down. I would say just wait for the market to start moving up then invest or invest now and wait for 2-4 years / whenever Waves reaches your desired price.

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September 06, 2019, 06:51:43 AM
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I want to buy waves but I cant, because I have been trained by sasha that waves only goes down and I am guaranteed to lose money buying. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SASHA. Can t  buy waves because you trained us to know it ONLY LOSES MONEY! EVERYDAY WAVES GOES DOWN
The current market situation is really bad, If you invest in any altcoin it probably will go down. I would say just wait for the market to start moving up then invest or invest now and wait for 2-4 years / whenever Waves reaches your desired price.
so long to wait for the rise ? and wich alts gonna survive ?? ... i have a feeling there is more going on in crypto-world!!

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I want to buy waves but I cant, because I have been trained by sasha that waves only goes down and I am guaranteed to lose money buying. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SASHA. Can t  buy waves because you trained us to know it ONLY LOSES MONEY! EVERYDAY WAVES GOES DOWN
The current market situation is really bad, If you invest in any altcoin it probably will go down. I would say just wait for the market to start moving up then invest or invest now and wait for 2-4 years / whenever Waves reaches your desired price.
so long to wait for the rise ? and wich alts gonna survive ?? ... i have a feeling there is more going on in crypto-world!!
Yeah, Long-term investing is generally beneficial. Waves is sure going to survive, Development is strong, A lot of people are developing dapps as well. I'm going Long-term on Waves, It's either rich or complete lost for me.

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September 07, 2019, 09:19:10 AM
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I want to buy waves but I cant, because I have been trained by sasha that waves only goes down and I am guaranteed to lose money buying. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SASHA. Can t  buy waves because you trained us to know it ONLY LOSES MONEY! EVERYDAY WAVES GOES DOWN
The current market situation is really bad, If you invest in any altcoin it probably will go down. I would say just wait for the market to start moving up then invest or invest now and wait for 2-4 years / whenever Waves reaches your desired price.
so long to wait for the rise ? and wich alts gonna survive ?? ... i have a feeling there is more going on in crypto-world!!
Yeah, Long-term investing is generally beneficial. Waves is sure going to survive, Development is strong, A lot of people are developing dapps as well. I'm going Long-term on Waves, It's either rich or complete lost for me.
my first invest , still have  them in the wallet ..I was very disappointed in myself because I didn't sell it when it was high... i saw eth before my eyes, so i became greedy and i thought it goes much higher ....
i even bought more ( at 25k sats i thougt it was lowest )...

indeed like your thoughts ... all or nothing  Wink

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September 07, 2019, 01:20:16 PM
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I want to buy waves but I cant, because I have been trained by sasha that waves only goes down and I am guaranteed to lose money buying. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SASHA. Can t  buy waves because you trained us to know it ONLY LOSES MONEY! EVERYDAY WAVES GOES DOWN
The current market situation is really bad, If you invest in any altcoin it probably will go down. I would say just wait for the market to start moving up then invest or invest now and wait for 2-4 years / whenever Waves reaches your desired price.
so long to wait for the rise ? and wich alts gonna survive ?? ... i have a feeling there is more going on in crypto-world!!
Yeah, Long-term investing is generally beneficial. Waves is sure going to survive, Development is strong, A lot of people are developing dapps as well. I'm going Long-term on Waves, It's either rich or complete lost for me.
Yes,the whole market situation is bad except only bitcoin.Anyone invested altcoins this year has lost most of the money,at least for now.But from a long term,not at all,the whole crypto currencies market will surely rush to new high cap,of course including Waves.
And in fact I am a Waves ICO supporter ,and hold waves for almost 3 years,will surely hold them much longer if only sasha and the team continue to building and promoting the ecosystem.


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 #5414

I will be looking into Stellar migration if Waves sabotages this project by ticker removal in december.

Bettertokens does not permit project to become "bettertokens" by improving regulatory framworks, so Bettertokens is another useless sock puppet of the establishment to sabotage crypto because they understand that their business model of counterfeiting is coming to an end.

Let the users vote for projects who will get qualified, I can guarantee you, that Marquise $Museum will get it in 24 hours because it is one of crypto coins with finished product, unlike 99% of the rest.

Anyway, can't work with this branding platform without ticker, it's a very basic requirement and a backwards belief that punishing unverified coins will somehow improve the platform instead of implementing solutions.

If we can't get rid of bettertokens, better to fork waves then they can gatekeep themselves with useless old waves and VST for russian military.

Where have I seen this behaviour before, taking something good, and turning it into s***? Ah yes, communism, now I remember.

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Waves is one of the best crypto projects imo. I agree, if any altcoin will make a x100, waves is a good choice imo. The biggest  exchanges out there, like kraken and coinbase and binance are willing to list the waves project and that's not speculation, it's reality! => THE OWNER of the biggest exchanges believe in the idea/technology /team and ceo of the waves project imo!  Waves could be like the Facebook in 2012 or earlier at the current market situation. Buy low and sell high, best wishes!


i dont know. i hold waves for a Long time, it never moved much.

also i dont think any News About waves reached me unless i looked for it.

i will Keep it in my portoflio and hope it moons but beeing real i dont think it will.

the Competition got some hot Things going.

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September 08, 2019, 02:51:27 PM
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Waves is one of the best crypto projects imo. I agree, if any altcoin will make a x100, waves is a good choice imo.

You're talking out of your rear end! It's not 2014 anymore - the days when coins skyrocketed for no reason whatsoever are over! And, as each year passes, the lower ranking coins have smaller and smaller odds of surviving in the long-term. Waves is a crypto-Dodo - it cannot adapt fast enough or sufficiently enough to survive in a radically-changing blockchain environment. Angry

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September 08, 2019, 04:45:13 PM
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Waves is one of the best crypto projects imo. I agree, if any altcoin will make a x100, waves is a good choice imo. The biggest  exchanges out there, like kraken and coinbase and binance are willing to list the waves project and that's not speculation, it's reality! => THE OWNER of the biggest exchanges believe in the idea/technology /team and ceo of the waves project imo!  Waves could be like the Facebook in 2012 or earlier at the current market situation. Buy low and sell high, best wishes!

All the same, WAVES should be considered not as an ordinary altcoin, but as a whole platform with DEX, possibility of creating assets and so on. But for some reason, despite the development of WAVES rate continues to fall. Listing on top exchanges can temporarily affect the price, but in the long term, the project management needs to change something.

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September 08, 2019, 05:11:52 PM
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Waves is one of the best crypto projects imo. I agree, if any altcoin will make a x100, waves is a good choice imo.

You're talking out of your rear end! It's not 2014 anymore - the days when coins skyrocketed for no reason whatsoever are over! And, as each year passes, the lower ranking coins have smaller and smaller odds of surviving in the long-term. Waves is a crypto-Dodo - it cannot adapt fast enough or sufficiently enough to survive in a radically-changing blockchain environment. Angry

The blockchain is dead. Long live the blockchain!

Talking in sweeping terms does not make it a valid argument. The fact of the matter is that this environment is under strong centralization by different strategies of infiltration to present an appearance of remaining unfiltered as it became known for.

BTC and the top 5 are entirely subverted and only reached these positions because they are already infiltrated by the establishment.

If you have a project that is independent, you have nowhere near the opportunity to reach this level of exposure because it will destabilize the status quo. Then, if you sell your share for penny on the dollar, then you are welcome on the inside because it is the same elite who will be raking in the profits.

Situation was definitely different in 2014 because the environment was unrestricted, now, all value extraction has been stamped out by gatekeepers who hate this invention because they understand that ultimately it will radically overturn the current and corrupt system.

China = Binance
Bittrex = CIA
CM = Goldman
NEXO = Goldman
NEO = China
WAVES = Soon to be Russia by VST integration

The list is endless, and it is the same 3 powers behind most coins in the top 10.

If you are a genius dev, of course you will become rich in crypto, but for normal projects it is a hard environment to constantly go up against establishment gatekeepers that are like weed now.

Marquise $Museum was integrated with crypto because if you are an artist who want to find sales channels and expositionl then you must also become a communist lefty. Unless you are a top 0.1% of world talent who can automatically attract collectors, only then may you decide how to operate your business more freely. Look at Chapelle, he servied the fashion industry for decades and was all but forgotten in Hawaii when someone in the inside invited him back to exhibit worldwide in the best galleries. This can only happen because 1. he was top talent photographer. 2 he served the cause (communism).

Crypto was once unfiltered for startups and a very promising method of raising money for all kinds of things, but this was radically subverted by criminals and sock puppets in little less than a year. It requires a solid methodology to be successful in this space, but now even with proper documentation it is not possible to be approved by bettertokens for qualified issuer status because they decided so, ie centralized gatekeeping. Bettertokens did not even exist as a unit when Marquise $Museum was launched way back in late 2017. It is a joke, but it is an expensive joke for my project.

If this was 2016, $MM would already have CMC integration and qualified issuer status, bad timing is all, too late.

Remember, this is crypto, this invention was given away freely from the unknown creator. Can you see how incubated startups and university projects are completely controlled if the military can do this to a tech that was not even in their control from the beginning. It took them a year to subvert key sectors in crypto.

And if you refuse to cooperate? AK-47 to the face.

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Waves is one of the best crypto projects imo. I agree, if any altcoin will make a x100, waves is a good choice imo. The biggest  exchanges out there, like kraken and coinbase and binance are willing to list the waves project and that's not speculation, it's reality! => THE OWNER of the biggest exchanges believe in the idea/technology /team and ceo of the waves project imo!  Waves could be like the Facebook in 2012 or earlier at the current market situation. Buy low and sell high, best wishes!
it is indeed a very good project , almost a one in all solution , but still it never had the attention that it deserves , don't think that there is something bad to say about technology or their idea's but also think that marketing should be done more and better

Waves reminds me of a nxt project somewhere in 2013-14 as in they had their own community, doing what they are doing, but somehow pretty isolated from others. That actually made me interested in this again. That and the marketcap.

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September 09, 2019, 02:23:49 AM
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Waves is one of the best crypto projects imo. I agree, if any altcoin will make a x100, waves is a good choice imo. The biggest  exchanges out there, like kraken and coinbase and binance are willing to list the waves project and that's not speculation, it's reality! => THE OWNER of the biggest exchanges believe in the idea/technology /team and ceo of the waves project imo!  Waves could be like the Facebook in 2012 or earlier at the current market situation. Buy low and sell high, best wishes!


i dont know. i hold waves for a Long time, it never moved much.

also i dont think any News About waves reached me unless i looked for it.

i will Keep it in my portoflio and hope it moons but beeing real i dont think it will.

the Competition got some hot Things going.
I also hold several WAVES, I think this will be a good investment, but the price of WAVES goes down, I didn't think the price of waves will goes down almost $ 1 USD

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