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April 24, 2019, 03:14:49 PM
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Everything Binance is China controlled. Waves is the most promising decentralization project so it will be crippled after june 15 and believe me that is only the beginning in the name of regulation that no one asked for.

Waves is basically a way to communicate unrestricted through token message transfers with blockchain immutability that is censorship resistant. It consists of thousands of altcoins that are (were) impossible to control and create their own fiat independent economic systems. The weakest point in this promising invention is the team and leader behind it who are easy to be made to comply to the agenda, and they are the attack vector to compromise this platform and it is very successful at value erosion so far. The two first sentences in this paragraph is an establishment definition of Money Laundering and Terrorism sponsoring because it means free speech and free economy, both are intolerable by world powers.

Waves was never about privacy but the way it is constructed makes it too risky to leave unchecked, it begins with qualifying for token indexing on the dex because that is obviously something that the team is centrally controlling, even if they should not be able to do so on a truly decentralized platform where community voting decides listing approval of new tokens.

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April 24, 2019, 04:21:52 PM
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We are happy to announce that Waves is live on Delta Direct! All the latest Waves updates will now be directly available on your Delta app! Make sure to enable notifications for our Direct updates so you never miss out.
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Waves name appeared for few seconds on movie Crypto (00:48:27)  Cheesy Grin

I read about the movie featuring Kurt Russell and that Waves plays a short role in it. Is the film already available as a stream or DVD or have you watched it in the cinema?
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April 24, 2019, 07:22:52 PM
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4500 btc/0.000415 waves or 5000/0.00038 to hit $1.85 within 30 days.

Unless the wedge resolves this week towards $3.6-4

Removing token tickers after june 15th is a big mistake by waves team and they should make a secondary index with lower listing fee and kyc requirements for all tokens rather than removing their tickers. The current bettertoken review requirements are harder to appease than a Nasdq IPO.

This will greatly lower Waves use case as is. I was looking to invest a few thousand dollars more during late spring into Marquise $Museum liquidity but will reconsider based on this information.

where do you find information on waves tickers being removed? Whats up with that?

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April 24, 2019, 08:13:44 PM
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4500 btc/0.000415 waves or 5000/0.00038 to hit $1.85 within 30 days.

Unless the wedge resolves this week towards $3.6-4

Removing token tickers after june 15th is a big mistake by waves team and they should make a secondary index with lower listing fee and kyc requirements for all tokens rather than removing their tickers. The current bettertoken review requirements are harder to appease than a Nasdq IPO.

This will greatly lower Waves use case as is. I was looking to invest a few thousand dollars more during late spring into Marquise $Museum liquidity but will reconsider based on this information.

where to read more details about this? Is it publicly available, or do you just have an inside, because planned to use Waves blockchain?

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April 24, 2019, 09:45:41 PM
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4500 btc/0.000415 waves or 5000/0.00038 to hit $1.85 within 30 days.

Unless the wedge resolves this week towards $3.6-4

Removing token tickers after june 15th is a big mistake by waves team and they should make a secondary index with lower listing fee and kyc requirements for all tokens rather than removing their tickers. The current bettertoken review requirements are harder to appease than a Nasdq IPO.

This will greatly lower Waves use case as is. I was looking to invest a few thousand dollars more during late spring into Marquise $Museum liquidity but will reconsider based on this information.

where do you find information on waves tickers being removed? Whats up with that?

Hello Midas111! You can find detailed information regarding verification process in this article. - https://blog.wavesplatform.com/decentralised-token-verification-our-vision-for-the-future-and-a-fix-for-the-present-fefd5531b33d

Sincerely, Waves Community Manager
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April 24, 2019, 11:01:20 PM
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TSA is suitable for enterprise level or fortune 500 companies who wish to migrate their business to blockchain, so of course there is multi trillion dollar value potential in this respect, but it is mostly from migrated and proprietary business, for waves the value extraction will be enabled if it becomes Nasdaq 2.0 with trading and transfer fees determined in waves. What we will get then is a crypto clone of the present economic model with the same players but now on blockchain instead with all the censorship enabling capabilities that this technology brings, so the ideology of Satoshi will then have been fully subverted.

TSA requires correspondence with financial regulators in issuant jurisdictions = surrending all control over the tokens with possibly criminal charges for any wrong doing or non compliance. It also requires banking collaboration which means that banks can decide on a whim to freeze assets or shut down token owners bank accounts if they are not satisfactory. All other risk compliance and KYC/AML of Bettertokens is a very efficient way of squeezing any free market value out of waves that small business owners might otherwise have contributed by buying into waves and providing market making liquidity to their branded coins.

WAVES is trying to structure its platform in preparation for enterprise onramping but at the same time this regulatory compliance will alienate the original decentralized community.

From a business and money making perspective, this community engages in speculative behaviour and there is no traditional consumer product demand beyond tokens and novel coins it seems after having provided market making for Marquise $Museum for more than 1 year.

It remains to be seen if Waves can attract the big players to their innovative platform and what the sacrifice then will be in terms of decentralization and free market economy.

All of the above is highly speculative at this point in time and if successful the platform will become a household name and there will be high valuation but also high competition from other platforms like Ethereum and Stellar.

The UI must be completely revamped alongside this brand rediscovery and ticker pairing should be limited to btc waves and usd because it's a mess right now and the text is too small.

Waves is already planning to have a decentralized review process for tokens and these should then be indexed on a sister platform for small business owners similar to Russell 2000 or Small cap on Nasdaq without the rigorous TSA requirements.

It is possible for Waves to permit both types of economic and philosophical paradigms of this new frontier mixed with old business without alienating the original ICO participants but short term it might suffer in market cap and ranking simply because of the high standards of operation it is attempting to satisfy.

Dollar adjusted market cap with lower barrier to entry for small business indexing while minimizing spam tokens can easily be $70 to $200 within 1 year if the decentralized and censorship resistance model is retained. What we have then is an early version of something similar to ebay combined with twitter.

If the focus instead is on enterprise solutions, as I believe it is for Vostok and was not intended for Waves, then Waves value proposition can certainly stagnate indefinitely at less then $1. So until this speculative analysis is confirmed by actual enterprise onramping, then the value of the platform after june 15 is not much once tickers are removed on the dex for unverified tokens because that is a significant branding utility aspect of the dex. I believe that the team is moving towards enterprise and government solutions through Vostok because the performance of token generation and demand on WAVES has been lacking for small investors and small business so far.

June 15 ticker removal has a very easy to solution to implement a tiered indexation of tokens that opens a spectrum between 1 waves token issuance fee and TSA Nasdaq level qualifications and the 1k fee. Vetting can be community guided or by fulfilling tiered KYC similar to how centralized crypto exchanges operate. The dex can be catalogued with several color coded pages from tier 1 to 5 that users can browse instead of the singular main page that we have now and that is a mess because of multi pairings. Optionally, tokens themselves can be color coded green/yellow/blue/black depending on tier.
 


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April 24, 2019, 11:28:00 PM
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Last time waves show a good token price position. My favourite feature is waves DEX.

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April 25, 2019, 04:49:39 AM
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What do you think about Binance Dex? I know it's not a real DEX, but the market gives a different answer. Do you think, it will make Waves DEX useless or at least less interesting?

IMO they both will play there own important role in the crypto-verse.In wavesDEX, we are able to trade all WAVES based tokens but I think in binance we will be limited to a few coins and token.

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April 25, 2019, 11:18:01 AM
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Random oracles on Waves is one of the use cases, implemented in frames of the Waves Labs grant program.
Check out the explanation how the idea was developed in an elegant solution: https://habr.com/en/post/449342/
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April 25, 2019, 04:11:33 PM
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Waves Grants program is evolving into a fully-fledged Incubator, with 1 million WAVES set aside to help participants develop and market smart contract solutions and dApps.

Technical support and publicity will be provided by Waves, enabling developers to create and popularise the software that will form the backbone of the next generation of web services.

To find out more, see: https://medium.com/waves-lab/waves-incubator-launches-as-a-new-step-to-support-developers-26f4fa1cf29f
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April 25, 2019, 07:10:54 PM
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Waves has a DEX, and it's the most important part of it, I think. But it's not being developed. Now it's time of IEO, the time of ICO is over. But Waves's DEX doesn't offer IEO campaigns and it's a big mistake. Investors's are looking for profit. But there is not much profit without IEO and they started to leave. The same will happen with all other exchanges who don't offer profit to it's investors.
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IEO's are even worse than ICO's

Just another name for the same thing, though this time the exchange makes more profit


 
 
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April 26, 2019, 04:57:14 AM
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IEO's are even worse than ICO's

Just another name for the same thing, though this time the exchange makes more profit

IEOs is just a new way for exchanges to make out more $$$ in these market conditions. I think IEOs will be hot for a couple of more months after that they will meet with the same faith as ICO.

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April 26, 2019, 06:43:42 AM
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IEO's are even worse than ICO's

Just another name for the same thing, though this time the exchange makes more profit
IEOs , especially scam IEOs are much worse then ICOs, because it is likely double scam. Why do I use the phrase double-scam here? First, scam exchanges started their platforms to catch money of traders, their money will stuck on scam exchanges when those exchanges turn into scam exits; second, they started IEOs for their exchanges in order to catch another flow of money from investors, whom have interests to invest into their scam platforms (investors don't know platforms they invest their money are potential scam ones). That is why I use the phrase 'double-scam IEOs' for scam exchanges.
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Waves is taking part in Crypto Games Conference - the world’s largest and definitive business event in the crypto gaming industry.
Waves Developer Advocate Inal Kardanov has just given a speech about Full Cycle Tokenisation in Games.
Come and chat with him and other Waves representatives at our panel!

See more https://cryptogames.events/
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For about two months, developers and teams have been working on Waves-based solutions under our grant program. Now, the first results are in!
 Check out the projects that have already been completed: https://medium.com/waves-lab/waves-grants-recipients-successes-157b4c66b411
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April 26, 2019, 04:40:28 PM
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IEO's are even worse than ICO's

Just another name for the same thing, though this time the exchange makes more profit
IEOs , especially scam IEOs are much worse then ICOs, because it is likely double scam. Why do I use the phrase double-scam here? First, scam exchanges started their platforms to catch money of traders, their money will stuck on scam exchanges when those exchanges turn into scam exits; second, they started IEOs for their exchanges in order to catch another flow of money from investors, whom have interests to invest into their scam platforms (investors don't know platforms they invest their money are potential scam ones). That is why I use the phrase 'double-scam IEOs' for scam exchanges.

Absolutely right! Less than 5% ICOs survived and delivering product and the rest turned to indirect scam exit, The actual bear market is mainly caused by ICOs, Same scenario will happen to IEOs because What does easy come! easy go... IEOs projects gather millions of dollars in few seconds with no guarantee to deliver product or exact time frame which product will be fully operational ,what you get in exchange is just ERC20 token which its value drop by time, I'm not really a big fan of ICOs or IEOs because last three years proved that ICO was just a scam in legalized way.
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April 26, 2019, 05:08:55 PM
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When I started in the crypto space I was advised to create a token on the Waves platform, not long thereafter Ethereum dominated the chats I was having with different people and Waves stayed behind. So, now it seems that Waves has little significance in the token launch market.
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April 26, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
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Please update on Coinomat swap, we need resolution before waves can succeed.


Is Coinomat asset swap going to happen?
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