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February 03, 2014, 11:23:48 AM
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funny  Cool

i know at least 2 founders have sent bcnext BTC from multiple accounts and sock pupet accounts.
this means that they r verry verry rich and have more than 100M each  Cool Grin
they will not have the time to unload them before 20 years Cheesy

so the statistics is wrong and does not match up.

far less founders than 73, more like 12, do ur DD

Let me guess, 1 founder is u and another one is ur girlfriend?

PS: I'm still waiting for the dump...

I m gay, oh yes they gonna kill me now in Russia
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February 03, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
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The BIG deal is that any treasurer cannot be in any of the committees. THAT is a big deal as we need to get people who are not the founders to put their stamp on NXT.

I see the problem, but can't we find 3 people who will voluntarily give up their sits on committees?

We should strive for more decentralization, that's why I am in favor of independent trustees.

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February 03, 2014, 11:25:52 AM
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I really thought that if i proposed a carbon-offset project that had almost nothing to do with the ...
- could you please create another thread for your proposal, and stop pollute this thread with C02/anthropogenic questions. This thread is about Nxt. Thank you.

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February 03, 2014, 11:26:23 AM
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Please make a specific proposal on how exactly we can get hub owners profitable by April. That is when we want to be able to handle 1000TPS.

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James, you are way too agitated. This is so optimistic, it borders on delusional, sorry Smiley

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February 03, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
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The BIG deal is that any treasurer cannot be in any of the committees. THAT is a big deal as we need to get people who are not the founders to put their stamp on NXT.

I see the problem, but can't we find 3 people who will voluntarily give up their sits on committees?

We should strive for more decentralization, that's why I am in favor of independent trustees.

Why should we lose those 3? They will probably be guys like Anon who should be drafted onto the tech committee. Do you understand what the treasurers responsibility and authority is?

They are told that the committee has decided to give a bounty for project X to acct # and they send the NXT to that acct.

That's it. Purely escrow service for the committees.

I don't want to waste talented people that should be on committees for this. I am amazed that the founders are willing to do this! After all, here they are, millionaires volunteering to be told what to do. Letting new blood come in and help shape NXT

This is really a very positive thing.

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February 03, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
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Warning
I withdrew Nxt from the Poloniex exchange and didn't receive them. Instead I read in my withdrawalhistory "EMAIL SENT".

I did not get my Nxt and I also didn't get any email.

be careful with Poloniex.com

Please inform the community if/when this gets resolved.

All is resolved. Everything absolutely OK with Poloniex.
It's actually a nice exchange and could have more traders.

NXT: 5231236538923913892
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February 03, 2014, 11:33:41 AM
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JRE version: 7.0_25-b30
Java VM: OpenJDK Zero VM (23.7-b01 mixed mode linux-arm)
Core dump written. Default location :/home/ubuntu/Desktop/nxt/core or core.18388

Does Oracle's version install, and if so does it still crash at that point?
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February 03, 2014, 11:37:31 AM
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That's it. Purely escrow service for the committees.

I don't want to waste talented people that should be on committees for this. I am amazed that the founders are willing to do this! After all, here they are, millionaires volunteering to be told what to do. Letting new blood come in and help shape NXT

This is really a very positive thing.

And that would be great. Unfortunately, we live in the real word, where things sometime don't work out as we wanted them to be...

Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders? If not, I guess, no point discussing it anymore, we just going in circles.

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February 03, 2014, 11:39:15 AM
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That's it. Purely escrow service for the committees.

I don't want to waste talented people that should be on committees for this. I am amazed that the founders are willing to do this! After all, here they are, millionaires volunteering to be told what to do. Letting new blood come in and help shape NXT

This is really a very positive thing.

And that would be great. Unfortunately, we live in the real word, where things sometime don't work out as we wanted them to be...

Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders? If not, I guess, no point discussing it anymore, we just going in circles.
Would you be so kind as to retract your objection? This might not be the perfect solution, but I strongly believe it is the best practical solution that we can actually make happen.

James

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February 03, 2014, 11:41:11 AM
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I believe we should give priority to Service Providers.   



me too....The Nxt Mobile Applications Co. was gonna try and implement this feature ourselves we were planning to make it a major point in our IPO.


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February 03, 2014, 11:43:59 AM
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Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders?
- I think, that it is more chances that independent "trustee" steal the NXT, than that founder does.

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February 03, 2014, 11:47:30 AM
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Would you be so kind as to retract your objection? This might not be the perfect solution, but I strongly believe it is the best practical solution that we can actually make happen.

Let's just take time out for awhile and see what other people think.

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February 03, 2014, 11:48:50 AM
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Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders?
- I think, that it is more chances that independent "trustee" steal the NXT, than that founder does.

It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.

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February 03, 2014, 11:50:14 AM
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Its 4am, I am tired. I am hoping that some other people can help with this effort to approve klee, pouncer, bybitcoin and neer.g as treasurers who will be providing escrow service for the unclaimed NXT

It is not a perfect solution, but we need to release those funds sooner rather than later. This proposal has a very good chance to pass and thus give us the resources we need to battle against emunie, etherium, etc.

Please keep in mind that it is the three committees that will decide how to spend the funds. The treasurers are just providing escrow service

James

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February 03, 2014, 11:53:05 AM
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Please keep in mind that it is the three committees that will decide how to spend the funds. The treasurers are just providing escrow service

James

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February 03, 2014, 11:54:31 AM
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Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders?
- I think, that it is more chances that independent "trustee" steal the NXT, than that founder does.

It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.
So you are putting up three theoretical candidates who would be willing to not be on any committees and perform escrow service AND to reveal their real names and addresses.

And these hypothetical three are up against the founders that were instrumental in getting NXT to where it is today?

If you want to propose an alternate slate of treasurers, I have no problems in having the community vote between the two slates. The founders have earned the trust of the community and have no need to divulge their identity.

Who are the three that you propose and you need to make sure they agree to giving up their identity and location since flight risk would exist for them.

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February 03, 2014, 11:58:49 AM
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It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.

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February 03, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
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The BIG deal is that any treasurer cannot be in any of the committees. THAT is a big deal as we need to get people who are not the founders to put their stamp on NXT.

I see the problem, but can't we find 3 people who will voluntarily give up their sits on committees?

We should strive for more decentralization, that's why I am in favor of independent trustees.

Why should we lose those 3? They will probably be guys like Anon who should be drafted onto the tech committee. Do you understand what the treasurers responsibility and authority is?

They are told that the committee has decided to give a bounty for project X to acct # and they send the NXT to that acct.

That's it. Purely escrow service for the committees.

I don't want to waste talented people that should be on committees for this. I am amazed that the founders are willing to do this! After all, here they are, millionaires volunteering to be told what to do. Letting new blood come in and help shape NXT



This is really a very positive thing.

I can save if you're interested, I have business up in the Spanish forum

Sorry for my broken English XD
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February 03, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
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Its 4am, I am tired. I am hoping that some other people can help with this effort to approve klee, pouncer, bybitcoin and neer.g as treasurers who will be providing escrow service for the unclaimed NXT

It is not a perfect solution, but we need to release those funds sooner rather than later. This proposal has a very good chance to pass and thus give us the resources we need to battle against emunie, etherium, etc.

Please keep in mind that it is the three committees that will decide how to spend the funds. The treasurers are just providing escrow service

James

Independence in this context, feels valueless. The position of treasurer is merely functional, and matters not if someone is independent or not. So on balance, why introduce the risk of flight when you dont have to? Approve the above, if only for expediency. The committee can vote to change in the future if necessary.    
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February 03, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
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JRE version: 7.0_25-b30
Java VM: OpenJDK Zero VM (23.7-b01 mixed mode linux-arm)
Core dump written. Default location :/home/ubuntu/Desktop/nxt/core or core.18388

Does Oracle's version install, and if so does it still crash at that point?

Now I'm stuck at the Oracle java install. Cannot find package to install from terminal. Sad Any hint. Tryed sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-jdk, but this package is not found. Using ubuntu saucy. Any hint?
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