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February 04, 2014, 07:31:30 PM
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OK. I see.  now I remember people saying before that the very first time that an account received NXT, that it had to wait 1440 confirmations before that balance could forge, but I also thought I remember people saying that after that first 1440 confirmation period, that then any new NXT received would forge immediately.

But I dont think this is correct.  I just checked my account and that last few transactions in on it were received fees from forging blocks. and my balance is more than effectiveBalance by an amount that has almost 1400 transactions.

Unless received NXT from forging is treated differently than NXT received from some other account via a targeted transfer...

This was changed on block 47000.

can you give specifics?  Ill then update the wiki. 

Also I forged a block a bit over 1400 confirmations ago, and received 1 NXT for doing so.  I checked the effective balance before and after that 1400 mark, and the effectiveBalance has yet to go up.  So now Im really confused and I expected that effective to go up by  when the block got 1400 confirmations.
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February 04, 2014, 07:31:48 PM
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Hi CFB!

It's me again =)

I think I start to understand you a little bit (read your tekst 50 times now)

Am I a little step closer of how you really want the logo?

Very close. But the ornament should use only "X" letter, like here:



Ok, and which number do you choose?

Because I didnt understand the "border" part yet. Ornament on the side or on the border at the frontside.
Also the colours. Which part do you mean as background and foreground. That's why I made 4 different options.

Can you choose one?

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February 04, 2014, 07:36:04 PM
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can you give specifics?  Ill then update the wiki. 

Also I forged a block a bit over 1400 confirmations ago, and received 1 NXT for doing so.  I checked the effective balance before and after that 1400 mark, and the effectiveBalance has yet to go up.  So now Im really confused and I expected that effective to go up by  when the block got 1400 confirmations.

Any coin "touched" within last 1440 blocks is deduced from effective balance.

U have 1000 coins, ur effective balance is 1000.
U get an incoming transaction (payment or forged fee) of 10 coins, ur effective balance is 1000.
U send 5 coins, ur effective balance is 995.
In 1440 blocks ur effective balance is 1005.
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February 04, 2014, 07:37:55 PM
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Ok, and which number do you choose?

Because I didnt understand the "border" part yet. Ornament on the side or on the border on the front.
Also the colours. Which part do you mean as background and foreground. That's why I made 4 different options.

Can you choose one?

#2 and #3. But not plain colors, they should be textured with "slate" and "ivory".
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February 04, 2014, 07:38:35 PM
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Give them time. My questions r quite tech specific, we have to wait for Vitalik.

OK... fair enough!   Lips sealed  

Hold off all you jokers... I might have made a boo-boo!?!?!    Embarrassed

it happens to the best of us  Wink


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February 04, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
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it happens...now focus you gotta start studying Ethereum   Wink

The 2nd answer is still unanswered. I'll wait for a couple of days and remind them.
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February 04, 2014, 07:40:54 PM
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Ok, and which number do you choose?

Because I didnt understand the "border" part yet. Ornament on the side or on the border on the front.
Also the colours. Which part do you mean as background and foreground. That's why I made 4 different options.

Can you choose one?

#2 and #3. But not plain colors, they should be textured with "slate" and "ivory".

Alright! Now I can finish what I started. This was merely a sketch.

I will implement this sketch in my 3D model now and render it with slate and ivory.

ps. Don't sell my 1000 NXT  Tongue

Thanks for your time.

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February 04, 2014, 07:42:15 PM
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Ok, and which number do you choose?

Because I didnt understand the "border" part yet. Ornament on the side or on the border on the front.
Also the colours. Which part do you mean as background and foreground. That's why I made 4 different options.

Can you choose one?

#2 and #3. But not plain colors, they should be textured with "slate" and "ivory".
Faith: chce, abys na okrajích použil jen to "X" z přidaného obrázku a nikoliv ty klikyháky na okrajích původního loga. Obrázek by pak neměl být v těch barvách, ale máš použít textury: černošedou břidlici a slonovinu

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February 04, 2014, 07:45:01 PM
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Ok, and which number do you choose?

Because I didnt understand the "border" part yet. Ornament on the side or on the border on the front.
Also the colours. Which part do you mean as background and foreground. That's why I made 4 different options.

Can you choose one?

#2 and #3. But not plain colors, they should be textured with "slate" and "ivory".
Faith: chce, abys na okrajích použil jen to "X" z přidaného obrázku a nikoliv ty klikyháky na okrajích původního loga. Obrázek by pak neměl být v těch barvách, ale máš použít textury: černošedou břidlici a slonovinu


Salzacz. I'm Turkish and I don't understand you.  Cheesy

See my name; Fatih; the conquerer of Constantinople  Tongue

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February 04, 2014, 07:45:41 PM
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Ok... I am too lazy to make the meme myself... but someone should make one saying...


WE @ ETHEREUM DON'T LIKE ANSWERING QUESTIONS


BUT WHEN WE DO... THEY ARE NOT C-f-B's!!!


ROFLMAO!   Grin


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Give them time. My questions r quite tech specific, we have to wait for Vitalik.

Vitalik has answered already.

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February 04, 2014, 07:50:08 PM
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can you give specifics?  Ill then update the wiki.  

Also I forged a block a bit over 1400 confirmations ago, and received 1 NXT for doing so.  I checked the effective balance before and after that 1400 mark, and the effectiveBalance has yet to go up.  So now Im really confused and I expected that effective to go up by  when the block got 1400 confirmations.

Any coin "touched" within last 1440 blocks is deduced from effective balance.

U have 1000 coins, ur effective balance is 1000.
U get an incoming transaction (payment or forged fee) of 10 coins, ur effective balance is 1000.
U send 5 coins, ur effective balance is 995.
In 1440 blocks ur effective balance is 1005.

Just to be sure, only coins, which has 1440 blocks "history" can forge? I mean:

I have 1000 coins with 1440 confirmations, 1000 coins forge
I received 10 coins, 1000 forge
I send 5 coins, 995 forge
after 1440 clocks 1005 forge.
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February 04, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
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(='.'=)
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As some guys who reviewed Nxt code already noticed it's quite easy to add new features to Nxt core. All that required is to add a new type/subtype and some code that processes it. After we start testing Asset Exchange I'll have a couple of weeks when I'll be fixing possible bugs mostly. It's quite a boring task and I have to switch to other (more interesting) things time to time to keep working at near-100% effectiveness. We (community) could add our own (not BCNext's one) feature to Nxt. I'm thinking of cloning main Ethereum feature - contracts powered with Turing-complete language. I ask the community if there is anyone who understands Ether concept deeply enough and could consult us.

PS: If Turing-complete language is a too tough task then we could pick some other feature.

I recommend not targeting a specific VM.  Instead, use the model outlined by Michael Franz: efficient space encoding of the last stage of a abstract syntax tree.  Let the loader do the last step of emitting the platform-specific code.

It has the benefits of allowing for true target platform independence, and the program will be much smaller than one distributed as a either byte-code or even a binary.

It is a very powerful idea.

For an overview, please see:
A Tree-Based Alternative to Java Byte-Codes, M. Franz & T. Kistler, PDF: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.103.9056
Slim Binaries, M. Franz & T. Kistler, PDF: https://anonfiles.com/file/51fc0b41959dac4870ceb10ffeca6631

For more specifics, please see:
ETH 10497 - Code-Generation On-the-Fly -- A Key to Portable Software,  M. Franz, PDF: https://anonfiles.com/file/d377ba4014d5cb3c8ff06dbdf464a597


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February 04, 2014, 07:59:34 PM
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Just to be sure, only coins, which has 1440 blocks "history" can forge? I mean:

I have 1000 coins with 1440 confirmations, 1000 coins forge
I received 10 coins, 1000 forge
I send 5 coins, 995 forge
after 1440 clocks 1005 forge.

Yes.
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February 04, 2014, 08:01:16 PM
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recovery from the crash that is comming shall be LONG and painfull.

no exciting things to happen, no client, no nothing for months, can I adjust my prediction to 0.00004

not good for real investors like me when money is frozen for so LONG.surtenly when you want to free up money and buy lots of ethereum Cheesy, they have real DEV
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February 04, 2014, 08:04:19 PM
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no exciting things to happen, no client, no nothing for months, can I adjust my prediction to 0.00004

What the point to predict 0.04 if u r unable to reach even 0.05?
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February 04, 2014, 08:05:31 PM
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no exciting things to happen, no client, no nothing for months, can I adjust my prediction to 0.00004

What the point to predict 0.04 if u r unable to reach even 0.05?

i have still time no?
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February 04, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
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With all this Gox panic, is the perfect moment to release the AE.
The perfect solution, There will no other best moment for the market,that would be true marketing.

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February 04, 2014, 08:09:37 PM
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LONG and painfull.

THATS WHAT SHE SAID
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February 04, 2014, 08:11:01 PM
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no exciting things to happen, no client, no nothing for months, can I adjust my prediction to 0.00004

What the point to predict 0.04 if u r unable to reach even 0.05?

i have still time no?

Yes. 0.05 is enough.

Edit: I bet ur mother togue is Russian.
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LONG and painfull.

THATS WHAT SHE SAID

Bravo  Cheesy

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