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February 04, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
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If pointing out your last resort of snarks/eyerolls is ignorant and rude, so be it. I just don't think it's productive (neither is my bitching about your bitching, so I should probably just STFU now).

Hey, I don't enjoy sounding like a prick either Sad

Ok, I guess, fair enough. I should probably try one more time to convince him with arguments, instead of just bitching.

So James, consider this:

To test the old system you need to go and ask Jean-Luc to build-in a distributed cryptographic accumulator and then the rest of the libzerocoin via c++/java bridge, all this so you could just see for yourself, how horrible that system is.

Then, in a couple of months, when zerocash comes out, you're gonna come back and ask him to scratch all that and replace it with a distributed Merkle tree and a completely different ZK-proof system, based on SHA256 code, translated by a specially modified GCC compiler into code for a custom VM (which also needs to be implemented in our system, by the way).

Is this your plan? Because, frankly, it doesn't look very practical.

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February 04, 2014, 12:00:54 PM
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Let sum up what we have finished here:

- Decentralized Alias System / DNS: yes but not Complete
- Basic DDoS Protection: Complete?
- Decentralized Asset Exchange / Colored Coins:NO
- Transparent Mining:NO
- Arbitrary Messaging: Complete but absolete
- Instant Transactions:NO
- Decentralized Marketplace / Auction:NO
- Distributed Storage:NO
- Multi-signatures:NO
- Blockchain Shrinking:NO
- Two-phase Payments:NO
- Voting System:NO
- Reputation System:NO
- Decentralized Mixing Service:NO
- Distributed Computing:NO
- Smart Contracts:NO
- Hardware Wallets:NO
- Advanced DDoS Protection Project Kharo:NO
- white paper: NO
- Client:NO

What do we have:

bloated Blockchain that uses GB's of traffic that no one can afford!
hot air
unclaimed coins
12 laughing rich initial founders.
rats leaving the sinking ship already


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February 04, 2014, 12:01:06 PM
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quick apphub update.

have tested all basic functions account/alias/amessage (asset exchange close to complete) so far and it's working as expected, fast and stable but
there is a problem with keyphrases containing unicode characters. utf-8 encoding at codelevel is working but the gui engine supports iso 8859-15.

working on this.

Good news! When can we test it?  Tongue

this not so good, because as mentioned above existing accounts with unicode keyphrases are not supported this way. this has to be solved.

account holder with unicode keyphases don;t have to use your client till it's fixed.

but new users can begin immediately with your format.

correct, this is not a problem for new users or users without unicode keyphrases but don't know how many e.g. chinese users we have now using chinese symbols as keyphrase.
anyway, i am finishing apphub now. it was already planed to include unicode into hive and apphub is part of this.

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February 04, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
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correct, this is not a problem for new users or users without unicode keyphrases but don't know how many e.g. chinese users we have now using chinese symbols as keyphrase.
anyway, i am finishing apphub now. it was already planed to include unicode into hive and apphub is part of this.

Is it possible to postpone release a little so other AE client devs catch u?
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February 04, 2014, 12:08:56 PM
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I still hope Nxt will have pool forging implemented at some point. come from beyond tweeted about it some time ago.
so everyone gets the same interest % (although very low). that would make it even fair-er.



Its just a concept now, but if NXT distribution will be better it could be a feature.
The concept is about leasing forging power to a Pool (Forging Hub) without sending money to another account.

more details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4410102#msg4410102

I think that quoted text is very important.

Todays forging is like mining Bitcoins with GPU or altcoins solo mining.

In case I could tell somebody: Nxt is great, you can forge instead of mining and it is so good and future. He will believe me and buy 10.000 NXT. In case he will actually forge every week NXT, he will be so happy and tell it to his friends etc.. This situation will not happend until pooled forging without sending money to the pool will work.

In case price will go up, newcomers will not have enough money to buy even 10k or 1k NXT for forging.

We must have solid answers for these kind of questions, people on the other crypto are not stupid.
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February 04, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
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Damn, I missed both 1440 and 1500 Sad

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February 04, 2014, 12:10:51 PM
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We must have solid answers for these kind of questions, people on the other crypto are not stupid.

Are you sure?  Wink
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February 04, 2014, 12:10:59 PM
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....
bs... bss.. more bs...
...

Please people never forget that our emule is a professional investor...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=383259.msg4260845#msg4260845

he has massively invested in crypto -  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

and btw. still dumping?


He already dumped. Now he is waiting for lower price to buy back.

Did the NXT course fall due to that dump ... to 0.00006 BTC or lower  ?
I've inactively followed the course, but lately it has been 0.00007x .. 0.00008x

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February 04, 2014, 12:12:20 PM
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quick apphub update.

have tested all basic functions account/alias/amessage (asset exchange close to complete) so far and it's working as expected, fast and stable but
there is a problem with keyphrases containing unicode characters. utf-8 encoding at codelevel is working but the gui engine supports iso 8859-15.

working on this.

blah blah...
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February 04, 2014, 12:13:22 PM
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If pointing out your last resort of snarks/eyerolls is ignorant and rude, so be it. I just don't think it's productive (neither is my bitching about your bitching, so I should probably just STFU now).

Hey, I don't enjoy sounding like a prick either Sad

Ok, I guess, fair enough. I should probably try one more time to convince him with arguments, instead of just bitching.

So James, consider this:

To test the old system you need to go and ask Jean-Luc to build-in a distributed cryptographic accumulator and then the rest of the libzerocoin via c++/java bridge, all this so you could just see for yourself, how horrible that system is.

Then, in a couple of months, when zerocash comes out, you're gonna come back and ask him to scratch all that and replace it with a distributed Merkle tree and a completely different ZK-proof system, based on SHA256 code, translated by a specially modified GCC compiler into code for a custom VM (which also needs to be implemented in our system, by the way).

Is this your plan? Because, frankly, it doesn't look very practical.

You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.

Now I gotta read a dozen cryptopapers to understand most of what you wrote.  Cheesy
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February 04, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
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correct, this is not a problem for new users or users without unicode keyphrases but don't know how many e.g. chinese users we have now using chinese symbols as keyphrase.
anyway, i am finishing apphub now. it was already planed to include unicode into hive and apphub is part of this.

Is it possible to postpone release a little so other AE client devs catch u?

it's already postponed because i need a little more time to test AE and include the DNA i mentioned before
but since i intend to start 1. march with hive my intension is to realease apphub latest end month, better
a week earlier.
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February 04, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
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correct, this is not a problem for new users or users without unicode keyphrases but don't know how many e.g. chinese users we have now using chinese symbols as keyphrase.
anyway, i am finishing apphub now. it was already planed to include unicode into hive and apphub is part of this.

Is it possible to postpone release a little so other AE client devs catch u?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

no need to ask coz there is nothing to postpone, your agenda is so obvious
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February 04, 2014, 12:20:12 PM
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Anyone else has trouble using dgex.com ?
Every time i try to login it says wrong password.
Afterwards i reset my password and it works fine.
Then i change it , try to login and it doesn't work anymore.

Support doesn't answer for weeks.
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February 04, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
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....
bs... bss.. more bs...
...

Please people never forget that our emule is a professional investor...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=383259.msg4260845#msg4260845

he has massively invested in crypto -  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

and btw. still dumping?


He already dumped. Now he is waiting for lower price to buy back.

Did the NXT course fall due to that dump ... to 0.00006 BTC or lower  ?
I've inactively followed the course, but lately it has been 0.00007x .. 0.00008x


CfB meant the price of nxt just before it got traded on Bter, which was 0.00004-0.00005.
Supposedly Emule dumped at this time and now is regretting. Out of jealousy and hope that he can recover his losses, he tried very hard to push down the price of nxt, so far he is failing very hard.

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February 04, 2014, 12:26:32 PM
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quick apphub update.

have tested all basic functions account/alias/amessage (asset exchange close to complete) so far and it's working as expected, fast and stable but
there is a problem with keyphrases containing unicode characters. utf-8 encoding at codelevel is working but the gui engine supports iso 8859-15.

working on this.

What is apphub?

Know what's happening in cryptoworld: www.coinschedule.com
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February 04, 2014, 12:26:46 PM
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....
bs... bss.. more bs...
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Please people never forget that our emule is a professional investor...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=383259.msg4260845#msg4260845

he has massively invested in crypto -  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

and btw. still dumping?


He already dumped. Now he is waiting for lower price to buy back.

Did the NXT course fall due to that dump ... to 0.00006 BTC or lower  ?
I've inactively followed the course, but lately it has been 0.00007x .. 0.00008x


CfB meant the price of nxt just before it got traded on Bter, which was 0.00004-0.00005.
Supposedly Emule dumped at this time and now is regretting. Out of jealousy and hope that he can recover his losses, he tried very hard to push down the price of nxt, so far he is failing very hard.


Losses Cheesy

I had 2 accounts 50M,

Have stilll 1 account left with 50M and the other sold half way Cheesy

3 account was a little one 15M already sold out.

did all this without hurting or killing the coin, but seen the recent developments I can not garantee that for the future.
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February 04, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
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You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. Now I gotta read a dozen cryptopapers to understand most of what you wrote.  Cheesy

Aha-ha, nah, I am just a stupid monkey trying to figure this shhht out Grin

Peace.

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February 04, 2014, 12:29:49 PM
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Anyone else has trouble using dgex.com ?
Every time i try to login it says wrong password.
Afterwards i reset my password and it works fine.
Then i change it , try to login and it doesn't work anymore.

Support doesn't answer for weeks.

I think this might really be a bug on their website. It happened to me few times and i thought i simply did some typos but weird thing is, every time this happens i typed like 5 times my password very slowly and i still thought wtf, another typo what is wrong with me.

But since i know 100% that my password is correct, instead of resetting password, what i did was to clear up all internet cache and history etc, then i log in again.
Sometimes i simply change a different browser and that works.

So do what i do first before resetting password or you will probably get yourself into more trouble.

Fuck Mt.Gox! Fuck Mintpal! Fuck Bter! FUCK kyc! Protect yourself use MGW! SUPERNET!
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February 04, 2014, 12:31:07 PM
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CfB meant the price of nxt just before it got traded on Bter, which was 0.00004-0.00005.
Supposedly Emule dumped at this time and now is regretting. Out of jealousy and hope that he can recover his losses, he tried very hard to push down the price of nxt, so far he is failing very hard.

ok... I thought it was the last(?) "bid" to sell to 0.00005 ..Smiley
 

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February 04, 2014, 12:31:10 PM
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correct, this is not a problem for new users or users without unicode keyphrases but don't know how many e.g. chinese users we have now using chinese symbols as keyphrase.
anyway, i am finishing apphub now. it was already planed to include unicode into hive and apphub is part of this.

Is it possible to postpone release a little so other AE client devs catch u?

1) We already have a finished client for AE.....but it doesn't look pretty....also includes some fancy stuff.

2) The client should NOT be delayed further....if its working why not release version 1....version 1.1 can come at months end.


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