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May 04, 2018, 02:44:56 PM |
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aww ...that's really bad...but if someone stole this he is not going to give you .You should realise that.
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May 04, 2018, 02:45:05 PM |
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do not be agan. one of the best friends and the one who taught me. about the bitcoin digital world. he also lost 63 bitcon. because the error is not too fatal. because of its HP. in play by the child .
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bigdude
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May 04, 2018, 02:46:59 PM |
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.
At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.
Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
Here is the transaction.
Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6
Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet. I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- @TheShillBilly Twitter
I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them Please return them! Please Please Please! RT to help...
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.
If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
it's terrible it's much more than amount many people in developing countries can make through their life. but I don't understand how you can lost it as you said you kept it in your ledger. How can hacker sign for that transaction? don't beg scammer or hacker they never care about you. they should go to the helll
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Craigjohnstone
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May 04, 2018, 02:50:09 PM |
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This made me feel sick, hope you recover soon. Get back on your feet as fast as you can and move on. When one door closes, another door opens.
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mindrust
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May 06, 2018, 03:25:04 PM |
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How could this be prevented?
It seems like his problem was he didn't move his BTC first right? If he had moved his Bitcoin to a different wallet first, then he could have safely used the private key on the previous wallet to get the forked coins since that BTC wallet would be empty at that point. Is my logic correct on that?
Yes that's his main mistake. If he had moved moved his coins to a different wallet/address and secured them right (this part is also important), he wouldn't have had any problems most likely. But dealing with these scam wallets in the same PC that you also hold your bitcoins, if it wasn't that scam wallet/app/program, it was going to be something else as the OP wasn't cautious enough with his stuff. There are copy/paste trojans, wallet thieves, ransomware stuff... It It wasn't this, It would be the other one. If you are going to claim fork coins, always move your coins to another address first. If you are going to deal with the shit you have no idea about its safety, use a Virtual Machine.
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May 06, 2018, 03:28:36 PM |
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- snip - I’m already sick to my stomach. - snip - just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC. - snip - I have now lost my entire life savings. - snip - Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
As an additional warning to those that are new to the space... If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto. These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols. Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being. this is the right point. It takes substantial efforts to protect your money in crypto and once you lose them, there is no getting it back. Just keep in it the saving you can effort to lose.
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vnck25
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May 06, 2018, 03:46:24 PM |
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This is very unfortunate! You should have researched on how to extract forked coins safely before embarking on doing it. I always read, collect information on how others did it and what they have to share with the rest of the community. The only forked coin I got up to now was Bitcoin Cash, did considerable research before doing it. Created a new Electrum wallet, moved my BTC to that new wallet. Then used the old wallet to get my BCH, from there BCH was immediately moved elsewhere. I am not used that old Electrum wallet for anything now. Furthermore, as mentioned by other never put a large portion of your cryptos in one wallet, diversify that should be the norm. Take care bro.
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Vz Ketua
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May 06, 2018, 04:59:56 PM |
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Wow that's a lot. I am sorry for what you experienced. Hopefully there is a way out about the problem you are facing right now.
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kopijos
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May 06, 2018, 05:03:17 PM |
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as an experience that never lost a coin I advise you to keep your wallet in an offline wallet. you can use an external wallet to save a wallet can use trezzor or nano ledger wallet it can be used as your savings and you will feel safe.
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Pan Troglodytes
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May 08, 2018, 10:22:22 PM |
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How could this be prevented?
It seems like his problem was he didn't move his BTC first right? If he had moved his Bitcoin to a different wallet first, then he could have safely used the private key on the previous wallet to get the forked coins since that BTC wallet would be empty at that point. Is my logic correct on that?
yes it is correct - partly. You see, the coins he tried to claim (Bitcoin Diamond and Bitcoin Private) are really shitcoins worth almost nothing, just a fraction of a percent of BTC value. But there are other BTC forks out there. They are protected by the same private keys. And they are worth a significant percent of BTC value. I would say that at least Bitcoin Cash would be worth securing together with BTC before any attempt to claim those dangerous shitcoins is made. So, the correct strategy would be to start with moving BTC to another address (controlled by you), then the same with Bitcoin Cash, then any other forks in the order of their value.
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RockBar0
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May 08, 2018, 10:36:01 PM |
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Oh my God. This is a huge amount of money, try to remember where you left the private key and you can use it to get back your BTC password. I really hope you get your money back. Try to be more careful in later times.
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jmvzlfyg
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May 09, 2018, 04:42:39 PM |
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Don't be too sad, my friend, though it's hard to recover. We all know that 13 bitcoins are a lot of money. Now I can only pray that you can take back a small part of it. Give yourself a day holiday to go out with your family and hope you get better as soon as possible.
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RuslanSamui
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May 09, 2018, 04:53:39 PM |
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Hello everyone, then what happened at you is very scary. I'm very sorry that this happened. But try to learn from this situation, so that this never happened
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nickmax
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May 09, 2018, 05:09:40 PM |
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.
At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.
Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
Here is the transaction.
Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6
Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet. I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- @TheShillBilly Twitter
I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them Please return them! Please Please Please! RT to help...
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.
If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
If this is true, as you said, other newcomers in the crypto currency should learn from your mistake. You can not store all your savings in a crypto currency, especially in one place. I know that you understand this now, but you need to diversify the risks.
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layoutph
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May 09, 2018, 05:33:38 PM |
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Sorry if this sound stupid. I dont get it. How come the OP was hacked by just importing his BTC private keys in Electrum? Meaning Electrum wallet is not safe to use? Who stole his 13BTC by the way?
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Thyristor
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May 09, 2018, 05:52:29 PM |
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very sad man if this accident happened to me,i would have been there in the hospital really you are a very strong mentality.First of all,you should not have taken so much risk because it's not low amount it's just 13 BTC man.Everybody has to be careful in this issue.
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russaa8
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May 09, 2018, 05:59:50 PM |
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It's very terrible to lose everything that you had. But still, no one ever keeps all of your savings in one place, in one currency, at the same address. Thus you can not be completely robbed. This rule applies to both crypto currency and...
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May 09, 2018, 06:16:32 PM |
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this... You made 2 big mistakes: 1. You kept too much money in one wallet. 2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first. I'm really really sorry for your loss ... 13 BTC wow.... Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to. yes I really agree with you, maybe better for you and your BTC, do not have to put everything in 1 bag, because in my opinion it would be very risky to lose, maybe i think what maybe this is the caliber of your close friends but i dont think bad about this and I just guessed it.
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Alexmagn84
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May 09, 2018, 07:35:11 PM |
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13 BTC loss omg this is very bad think.I'm very sorry for that no have ways to your back money. Really if you have good skills then you will can be recovery your money shortly. So don't forget skills ,you can do that I hope your best time sonly back ...
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Sandus_Cryptolover
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May 09, 2018, 07:42:26 PM |
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Damn.... For as much as it hurts, the fault was from you. You don't keep a bulk of such asset as Bitcoin in just one wallet. Exposing your seed phrase was another. Anyways, I believe this is a lesson for us l to learn. Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.
At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.
Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
Here is the transaction.
Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6
Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet. I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- @TheShillBilly Twitter
I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them Please return them! Please Please Please! RT to help...
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.
If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
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