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May 02, 2018, 07:19:19 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

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-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
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May 02, 2018, 07:24:44 PM
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I’m already sick to my stomach.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.
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May 02, 2018, 07:26:03 PM
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Oh my God! 13 BTC just stolen! Very sad , very very sad. I am feeling too much bad by thinking that 13 BTC stolen! OMG!
But Don't lose your hope man! Please be patient . Everything may will okay. I will Pray for you, hope you will recover your lose.

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May 02, 2018, 07:30:43 PM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.

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May 02, 2018, 07:32:19 PM
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Thanks. Worst day of my life. No idea what I’m going to do.

I’m praying the culprits have half a heart to return some of it...

Please, I’m begging you, whoever you are.
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May 02, 2018, 07:32:45 PM
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 Huh Everyone should be very careful even with single little mistake one can loose whole investment.
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May 02, 2018, 07:38:12 PM
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wau, this is a difficult thing to imagine gan, btc is the king of his all coin, his price is quite high, if you lose 13 btc this thing scary, hopefully this incident do not happen to me, maybe your bitcoin wallet in heck, you just send it to someone else
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May 02, 2018, 07:40:47 PM
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The BTC has been moved a couple times while I slept. I didn’t move it.

Here’s the vast majority of it:

https://blockchain.info/address/339DUjZue42TYnvdU91E8NrNaFff7yzJwo

I’m so friggin nauseous I can’t see straight.
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May 02, 2018, 07:45:21 PM
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So sorry for your loss. Please, to all new ppl in the ecosystem. Educate yourself, understand the risks involved when you use this tools. All this could be avoided if informed decisions was made. Education is key.
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May 02, 2018, 07:45:39 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

lol....... well thats going to be the future of bitcoin anyway, sooner or later more and more bitcoin will end up in unobtainable wallets till the entire system wont be used anymore and gets dropped.
117000 usd,
now good luck with your health

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May 02, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
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And people, including me, were repeating it over and over. I think I even saw theymos write it.
It's not worth it to risk your BTC to get a couple dollars worth of a forked coin. Especially one of those new forks like diamond, god and so on.
You can quite safely get your BCH and BTG, but always think about it. Do you need another 100$ at the cost of 10k?
Can you give more details OP? What wallets did you use? Where did you download them from?

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May 02, 2018, 07:58:28 PM
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I was using the Electrum Wallets from Github. The BPrivate was from Github. I think the BDiamond was too. BTCD might have been from their site though. I’ll verify.
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May 02, 2018, 08:05:43 PM
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omg iam feeling with you about 1 year ago i lost 2,5 BTC to an hacker and i also got sick for the first days was hard to get in back in life was long time frustrated ! I hope you get contact to the stealer.....



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May 02, 2018, 08:07:53 PM
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I was using the Electrum Wallets from Github. The BPrivate was from Github. I think the BDiamond was too. BTCD might have been from their site though. I’ll verify.

Did you use the 'official' wallets? Or 3rd party wallets ?
Would you mind sharing the wallets you were using (link to github) ?

I am quite interested in finding out which of these wallets was the malicious one.

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May 02, 2018, 08:07:58 PM
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I’m so friggin nauseous I can’t see straight.

Why did you keep all your life savings in BTC? I really don't get it. Unfortunately the only thing that you can do now is analyse your actions step by step to find out which software has been compromised. You either have a trojan on your computer or downloaded fake wallets that had a backdoor allowing the hacker to get your keys.
The money is gone either way, calm down, have some alcohol or try to get some sleep. The sooner you get over it the better for your health.

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May 02, 2018, 08:08:41 PM
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Well, I only did lost a lot of bitcoin because of my stupidity (but not claiming fork coins). But I was able to move on and get back on my feet. My point is I know its your entire life savings, but hey you need to get up and think ahead.

I'm sure that this is a very expensive lessons to learn and I hope that those reading the OP's post will take every precautions about claiming those free coins. As for the criminals, I don't know, and I'm sure that they will not return it back to you.

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May 02, 2018, 08:14:25 PM
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I’m so friggin nauseous I can’t see straight.

Why did you keep all your life savings in BTC? I really don't get it. Unfortunately the only thing that you can do now is analyse your actions step by step to find out which software has been compromised. You either have a trojan on your computer or downloaded fake wallets that had a backdoor allowing the hacker to get your keys.
The money is gone either way, calm down, have some alcohol or try to get some sleep. The sooner you get over it the better for your health.

he was obviously speculating them, now they are lost forever in a wallet no one can obtain.

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It's quite sad to hear.I have already seen some more people losing their hard earned coins when just trying to get forked coins.Already a person lost his bitcoins when downloading a fake wallet instead of downloading Electrum wallet from the official website www.electrum.org.So nothing could protect any one indulging in cryptos except his self awareness.

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May 02, 2018, 11:42:09 PM
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   It so sad to loss almost all your savings from your hardwork. This could be a lesson to everyone,be careful and always keep your bicoins and other coins secured because in a one flash all what you have ,it might be gone. Digital bank is not secured,a lot of thief and scammers arround.
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May 02, 2018, 11:51:35 PM
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Why did you keep all your life savings in BTC? I really don't get it. Unfortunately the only thing that you can do now is analyse your actions step by step to find out which software has been compromised. You either have a trojan on your computer or downloaded fake wallets that had a backdoor allowing the hacker to get your keys.
The money is gone either way, calm down, have some alcohol or try to get some sleep. The sooner you get over it the better for your health.
It is a really unfortunate situation, most probably he tried to extract the fork coins using the private keys keeping the bitcoin in the wallet and that is the biggest mistake he did, we have discussed about extracting the new coins and how to do it safely, the risk of using your private key with the coins in it is the most damaging thing you can do. I am not even sure who is behind BTC Diamond and BTC Private and i have not extracted anything till now, the only coin i moved is BCH and that too first moving my bitcoin to another wallet and that is the safest way.
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This is very sad because they can no longer be managed by the experience of my obedient (
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May 02, 2018, 11:55:38 PM
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NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
that's why in all fork-claiming tutorials always advise you to move your fund to other wallet for safety
then treat the old wallet and addresses as compromised and never use it again ever, but also never delete it

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
your signed message means nothing, your signing with address 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
and the inputs of that transaction are all segwit address (unable to sign message yet as of now)

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May 03, 2018, 12:09:05 AM
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This is probably the most unfortunate thing I've seen today. Since those hackers have the stomach to steal your BTC, I'm sorry to say this but they give them back to you, not even a fraction of Bitcoin. That 13 Bitcoin is not a joke because that is really a huge investment. I hope you recover from that mate. We know that you will because its the crypto world, there's a lot of opportunities for you here but you just have to work twice for now I think. I know you can do it and you will be able to be successful in doing that. Good luck mate.
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That's a very huge loss, I feel very sad but I think that's not the end, never relent.
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May 03, 2018, 12:19:51 AM
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13 Bitcoin is very huge amount of money, sorry for the loss man, everythings gonna be alright not now but very soon, hope this experience gives you a lesson and become verycareful, better to watch and read about the security of the cryptowallet. Dont loss hope.

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---snip---
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
---snip---

in that transaction, utxos are quite new and they are from
3Qm3TdbDDVPmcit2xfacJWi3hdBeLSZvTF (12.53549677 BTC - Output) Block #520069 2018-04-27 00:31:51
3Jbn8xgo7WPF7oKNbo6qz6RiR2Eg7wHzzy (0.34 BTC - Output) Block #520452 2018-04-29 17:03:16
33f2FXUAjUaQyWbP8SBUQdGj6AbhF7zwvv (0.75 BTC - Output) Block #520088 2018-04-27 04:20:14  

as I gather some info on those forks, I think none of your addresses have those fork coins
Bitcoin Diamond (BCD), fork at block #495866, Nov 24th, 2017, 1 BTC = 10 BCD
Bitcoin Private (BTCP), fork at block #511346, Feb 28th, 2018, 1 BTC = 1 BTCP
so you tried to claim them without actually checking your balance on those forks first?
and in the hope of getting a little extra money, you've lost 13 BTC instead Lips sealed
this seems odd to me, but please do explain as I'm not too familiar with those forks

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May 03, 2018, 01:54:40 AM
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I know what you are feeling right now Sad I hope there is a way you can get your btc back to you. We people are working everyday to earn in a good way there is also in the other side working everyday to scam or hack peoples money so be cautious next time.
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May 03, 2018, 02:08:39 AM
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I think that you should not hold too much. 5 btc I have many, and you sell from 5 btc. and then 5 btc again, and last 3 btc.
but have you contacted by contact support from your wallet? hope it helps you.
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May 03, 2018, 02:13:18 AM
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this is really sad. 13 bitcoins are much fiat money. can you tell exactly which wallet is to blame for your loss? it would be very helpful if you would post a few links to the wallets. of course with a warning not to use them.
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That's really sad to know that you lost such a huge amount. 13 BTC is a big number. Although I haven't lost as much as you, but I had also lost 4 Bitcoins when a reputed online exchange ran away with all the money. I was left befuddled and in shock. After that I made a pledge not to store private keys anywhere except a paper wallet.
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This is probably the most unfortunate thing I've seen today. Since those hackers have the stomach to steal your BTC, I'm sorry to say this but they give them back to you, not even a fraction of Bitcoin. That 13 Bitcoin is not a joke because that is really a huge investment. I hope you recover from that mate. We know that you will because its the crypto world, there's a lot of opportunities for you here but you just have to work twice for now I think. I know you can do it and you will be able to be successful in doing that. Good luck mate.
This can be a lesson to everyone to keep safe your keys before you do anything because it will make you regret. Many are interested to have that huge amount of bitcoin and strive to work for that and for just little of time you lose it. I hope you find something to retrieve your funds because for that amount, there's a lot of opportunities you can do for your success.

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- snip -
I’m already sick to my stomach.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

sorry for your loss dude. The moment I read it, it feels like I am the one who just lost the entirety of my life savings. The cyber world is full of loopholes and people willing to do anything just to break in the hole. It never is a good idea to go ALL IN when it comes to bitcoin. I do hope that the culprit is here in the forum and take notice of your plea. 13 BTC is no easy money to earn, I hope he will be reminded of his conscience and return your savings, if not even if just what he wants to return.

To the culprit: hacking is easy, breaking into the system is easy. but dude, this one is basic, that money you have, it is not yours. step up and do what is right. sheesh

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May 03, 2018, 03:04:37 AM
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It's a massive loss for you, If I were you then I would be also devastated as like you. But there is no word to condole your such a loss. But this is a lesson for us regarding the backup system for our code. We have to keep our BTC or another blockchain address very carefully in a safe location. we can choose more than two location for the more safety.
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I apologize to those who have lost 13 BTC and it is a lot of value for me who can buy a house, why do you save a lot of btc ,,? losing 13Btc your stomach ache this is a bad experience for you heart keep your key purse save in a safe place

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In my country, with 13BTC, I can slap the president and get away with it.. Thats really a huge amount of money!! I am sorry for your loss bro. I pray God give you the fortitude to bear the loss
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May 03, 2018, 03:20:59 AM
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Unfortunately. Hackers and scammers exist around this market. That inadvertently reduces the development and popularity of users with bitcoin. Men, stay healthy and start from scratch. I can not identify anything by my expertise and experience does not belong to it. That is a really worrisome warning. I have stored BTC in blockchain and biffinex. Is it really safe? Embarrassed
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May 03, 2018, 03:23:01 AM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.
We can just support you since 13 bitcoin is very high value but i think you have big stressfull today.
Those above mistake should be learned by the other to avoid such of this problem. Everybody dont know to loss like this so we must avoid suc mistake.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
ouch im very very very very sorry to hear what happened to you, i can not imagine if that will happened to me, but your mistake is you put all of it in one wallet, be reminded specially all newbies that use not just one wallet and never ever use your storage of btc in other trading or any platform that will require your keys, im using ledger too, but im not using it on other transactions just by withrawing and holding.

Sir/Mam get a grip you will sure get over and REMEMBER: YOU CAN EARN MORE THAN THAT, nothing is impossible just don't give up.
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As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...
If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.
These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

You mean that such a huge amount of money should be kept in fiat? I also think so, but what about all this "hold until it's gold" stuff?
Personally, I don't know how people manage such huge sums. If I had something that the OP had, I wouldn't trust anyone, especially in this non-regulated crytoworld, I've heard stories about exchanges running away with their users' money, about people being just robbed while trying to buy/sell their crypto in a personal meeting. Holding would be my only option as I would be too afraid to go to fiat, lol.

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Its very sad to hear that. Mistakes were made and I am sure you learned your lessons, but thats a very hard way to do so Sad

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im feeling so sad to hear your lost i hope you learn from your mistakes 13 bitcoins is a huge lost next time extreme care
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Seriously? If that happened to me, I will find myself crying on the corner of our house. Thirteen bitcoin is not that easy to earn. If I know that I am holding that amount in my wallet, I would like to cash it out as soon as possible. I feel that my wallet very attractive to hackers. So cash it out in order to secure it much more. Better to deposit it in a bank or better to keeo it in my house. I am also careful to open my wallet because there are so many fake sites. Better to check the address first before logging in.

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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

Firstly after hearing ifeel sorry for your situation. Even the fact that btc has drop its value but it is still very valuable. I does not think the person that have your btc will pay you back but hope you meet a kind soul that will transfer you back your btc.

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Almost every month we hear story like this, people being scammed and left empty handed. thanks by posting this we can get some idea for future transaction we don't do what you have done. For the person who stole your money, can't he just give you like a half of it?

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TheShillBilly: do you realize exactly the mistakes you made, so others can learn ? I'm asking because the fact that you exposed your key to a forked wallet is not reason you lose your coins. In this case you can easily go after the GitHub user IP and track him or report this to authorities. There was a similar case like yours and police was able to catch the bad guy. Have you scanned your system for viruses ?
Don't desperate, there are ways to recover funds if you do proper open-intelligence research.
For community sake, hopefully you get your funds back!
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So sorry for the topic starter... Sad

But why, why would you store ALL of your savings in BTC? It's cool and promising, I know; but also very new and volatile. Why?
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Firstly, I'm sorry for your loss. That's a lot of money.

This story scares me quite a bit actually because I could see that happening to me one day; I know I'm not smart enough to avoid similar situations myself.

I'll do my best but the only advice I can give myself would be not to rush, take my time to do research and due diligence first, then test small amounts before I commit a large amount.

Someone I know on the forum creates 'sandboxes' for bitcoin transactions. I though that was a bit extreme but it makes complete sense when I hear stories like this.

It makes me feel sick to my stomach to hear your story. I'm so sorry Sad
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

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I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
Aw, this is really damaging. The hard work you put in were all wasted and gone. Thanks for sharing your experience to us so that we will be more careful about the things we have in this industry most especially to the keys. I feel sad reading your story because if I were in your place I think I lost most of my life. But sir, please don't give up in life, you can always double your work. You can do that sir, just believe and everything will be fine again.
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May 03, 2018, 05:18:27 AM
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To the OP, I am really sorry for your loss, but thank you for sharing your experience as I think it's goo to share the good, the bad, the ugly so that less experienced people can learn. I feel like what happened to you is something that could have happened to me as I tend to do things in a rush (though, to be honest crypto ha helped me become more detail oriented a now I double - and even triple - check everything).
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May 03, 2018, 05:46:17 AM
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I'm very sorry for your name. It's an incredibly bad thing. 13 Bitcoin is a lot of money. Whatever it is, it's a money you have to give up. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who prefer to steal money. Easy money makes these people crazy. I guess they do not even think about what people are buying the money for. We must always be careful not to stay in this situation. It is very important to keep passwords and private keys in crypto coins. Whatever it is, it is the information that should not be shared with anyone.I'm very sorry for your name. It's an incredibly bad thing. 13 Bitcoin is a lot of money. Whatever it is, it's a money you have to give up. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who prefer to steal money. Easy money makes these people crazy. I guess they do not even think about what people are buying the money for. We must always be careful not to stay in this situation. It is very important to keep passwords and private keys in crypto coins. Whatever it is, it is the information that should not be shared with anyone.
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May 03, 2018, 06:06:18 AM
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Thank you all for your concern! I mean it! I really think I practice good OPSec up until this lapse of judgement. I ‘just had to see if it would work’ when I plugged my BTC filled Ledger into the Electrum wallets. I had spent the previous day using all my previous seeds, where I thought the BTCP/BTCD was located, to no avail. Now I’m up shit creek without a paddle. I pray those in control of my BTC now see my pleas for help and find it in their heart to send it back. Lessons learned include spreading out my BTC in multiple seeds, move my BTC before attempting to split a fork, and never plug a Ledger into a forked wallet with my BTC seeded in it. I’m open to other forms of OPSec criticism as I’m sure I could improve elsewhere.

I got into Bitcoin last year to rid myself of the Fiat Debt based slavery system. I suspect that’s why a lot of you are here. I’ve put off marriage and kids for the past ten years to do the responsible thing, work hard, and save.. Bitcoin came along and made a lot of sense for self sovereign control of my future. So I liquidated my retirement paying big penalties last year. All in BTC. Risky yes and I thought I had the risks handled. Obviously not. I need to improve.

It it utterly terrifying to be so beyond out of control of my destiny right now. A complete 180 from my headspace over the past year. At this point there’s got to be one person in this world that can help me. I am at their mercy. Please, I’m begging from my knees.
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May 03, 2018, 06:22:37 AM
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The money is gone either way, calm down, have some alcohol or try to get some sleep. The sooner you get over it the better for your health.
Alcohol - the true solution to just about everything.  Lose 13 BTC - go get drunk.  That solves everything.

I’ve put off marriage and kids for the past ten years

WOW!!!  You lost far, far more than $120,000.  Ten years with no wife and to forgo having kids.  Holy shit did you act recklessly when you plugged your stupid Ledger into a thief's system.  What the fuck were you thinking?  

This is why "Ledger" is completely fucking stupid.  It is so easy to misuse and lose everything.  Don't put your god-damned keys into anything.  Write the fucking transaction off-line yourself.  

Maybe it is better you didn't have kids - don't think they'd be so bright considering the genetics thing.

im feeling so sad to hear your lost i hope you learn from your mistakes 13 bitcoins is a huge lost next time extreme care
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May 03, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
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omg, i feel sad for things that happened to you. from this i got lesson, never put too much coins on 1 wallet.
it will be best if we can own few wallets to store our coins.
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nothing I can help may be just a word of sympathy for you because you lost bitcoin, 13Btc so much you save why not you sell when the price goes up, it's a fatal mistake because you have too much

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May 03, 2018, 09:50:32 AM
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Everyone should be very careful even with single little mistake one can loose whole investment.
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May 03, 2018, 10:35:29 AM
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I really feel for you on this huge loss. I just hope you can get a fraction back so that you can quickly get back on track again. People have been warned severally to be careful how they handle private keys. Some hackers even use fake airdrop as a disguise to get your private keys. Please don't hold too much in one wallet. Split your coins into like 3 wallets in order not to loose all at once.
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May 03, 2018, 10:47:50 AM
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Extremely sad to hear what happened with you. Angry

  But can you or some one else please explain how exactly this happened??  Because from your post it is my understanding you were using two of the most secured wallets out there 'ledger nano' and 'electrum'

In ledger nano it asks you to confirm in your hardware if you want to send the transaction.  In  electrum there is 2FA which you will need to enter before sending anything.

So how exactly did this happen?  Even if you plug your ledger nano to any other wallet, how exactly the seed go taken out?? 

Please explain so no one do the same mistakes again.
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May 03, 2018, 10:56:51 AM
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Don't lose hope Bro! now for those who  scammer that stole your 13 btc Shocked Just pray for them!
Be patient bro ! hold on ! that's life
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May 03, 2018, 10:58:29 AM
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I am so sorry for your loss bro..I am sitting here reading through the thread with chills all over my body. I can only imagine how you feel  Sad That's why I split all my btc between 5 trezors.
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May 03, 2018, 11:03:33 AM
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I feel for your lost 13btc just like that, but we are all told that your power to you wallet security idiyour private key once you break that security you are losing your assets to who ever have access to those keys. Your private keys are your freedom once you lose it you are done.
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May 03, 2018, 11:11:06 AM
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it can be very troublesome situations that we can not trust or we do not have many application applications which we do not know at any time when we do not know our users and the results are theft losses are experiencing losses we can lead others to share our mistakes.
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May 03, 2018, 11:14:00 AM
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lol....... well thats going to be the future of bitcoin anyway, sooner or later more and more bitcoin will end up in unobtainable wallets till the entire system wont be used anymore and gets dropped.
117000 usd,
now good luck with your health

Can you, please, not quote the entire OP if you're not going to reference it at all. We can all see it, no need to quote it for no reason.


Alcohol - the true solution to just about everything.  Lose 13 BTC - go get drunk.  That solves everything.

There's a reason why homeless man and those who have problems turn to alcohol, makes you forget about those or not care for some time. So it's not completely wrong but can only go so far. Grin

But seriously OP, what the hell were you thinking...

Maybe it is better you didn't have kids - don't think they'd be so bright considering the genetics thing.

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May 03, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
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Extremely sad to hear what happened with you. Angry

  But can you or some one else please explain how exactly this happened??

So how exactly did this happen?

I believe the point of compromise happened at one of two places.

1. Using the Ledger to connect to the one of the two BTCP/BTCD Electrum Wallets. The BTCP has an app on the Ledger. The BTCD does not.

2. I don’t recall doing this for my BTC seeds but I might have input them in my hand into the BTCP/BTCD wallets.
That would mean a keylogger has compromised my setup. I’m not normally adventurous in downloading foreign software, generally, aside from rogue Bitcoin wallets (heh...).

So I’m not blaming the BTCP or BTCD Electrum wallets outright as it could have been me inputting my BTC seeds. I don’t recall doing that with my BTC seeds but Indo remember doing that with the old seeds that’s had the BTC already moved.

If anyone is familiar with the BTCP Electrum wallet off Github, that’s where I got it. I’ll have to confirm but I believe I also got the BTCD from there.  I’m sorry if this is unclear. My head is spinning and I’m not sure on where I was compromised.

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But seriously OP, what the hell were you thinking...




Greed, in so much that I wanted to turn those forks into more BTC. I don’t trade because I don’t have the short term gut to eliminate emotions. I only accumulate BTC. My thought was that these forks help put BTC into the hands of people who have the same social concensus of money. The forked coins allow people to experiment in finding their own consensus. It seems justified to capitalize on that. The risks are too high to fuck around with them though.
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May 03, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
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That's assumed to be worth $119,000.

Aren't you aware before claiming those fork coins that you must send first your balance to a safer wallet? You ignored the warning and tip that before claiming those forks secure your funds first.

I don't even waste my time to claim those shit coins.

Your coins has been moved to 339DUjZue42TYnvdU91E8NrNaFff7yzJwo.

Sorry for your loss billy.

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May 03, 2018, 12:01:57 PM
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I have a crapload of unclaimed btc forks and I am not planning on claiming them for these specific reasons. Too many things can happen..hackers are getting smarter everyday. Losing tens of thousands for the sake of a few hundreds doesn't sound appealing to me. I am so sorry for your loss btw..I hope you haven't lost your entire portfolio and that you will manage to recoup it via investing or trading. Be strong my friend! Don't let money ruin your health.
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May 03, 2018, 12:10:26 PM
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Yes, I am aware. I was aware. I don’t know why I decided to compromise my BTC seeds like that.

As for the reinvested forks, if it was solely a financial decision, the reinvestment of Forks into BTC, (BIG) if you have the courage of conviction of what fork will win. I have a Masters in Finance on top of an Aerospace Engineering Degree. I understand Economics and International Monantary Policy. I understand why BTC is a game changer. I’d like to think I have a fairly acute sense of the world. I’m probably too naive though when it comes to truly undertanding software attack vectors.  So, while the Financial thesis is there to support forking coins, my Computer Science skills are still very lacking. I should have known my limitations and not been so greedy.

If you’re gonna be dumb, you better be tough.
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May 03, 2018, 12:11:52 PM
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oh lord of mercy! what are you saying? Jesus..... this is a big lost 13 btc, i can't imagine the pain and what to do if i were in your shoe. i feel your pain  but we all have to be very careful when it comes to our wallet please be very careful. thanks

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I lost 34k$ and i was dead i hope u get it back oneday mate im really sorry for you , but the thief wont give u it back never ever!!!!1
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May 03, 2018, 12:24:09 PM
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All you have to do now is to look and seek for a hacker talent since it worth million in our country, I don't care if we share half-half of the total value since my only choice is either I retrieve the wallet and the BTC and have the half of it or loss it and I'll just regret it for the rest of my life.
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May 03, 2018, 12:29:19 PM
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That was a very harsh decision and so you have suffered a huge loss. 13 btc is no longer a small amount today, it is a good deal already. Your fault is that you did not make and experiment with a small amount before you did it with your wallet that has 13 btc. But next time if you really want to have a forked coins then try placing it in yobit, the forked coins will automatically appear in your balance as long as you have btc.
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May 03, 2018, 12:41:59 PM
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Yes, I am aware. I was aware. I don’t know why I decided to compromise my BTC seeds like that.
I don't know what to say to you, you are aware on how to secure yourself from these forks but you are comfortable that they won't or try out your seeds. I still admire you for your toughness thought that's really a big money but this isn't the end of your crypto journey, you have to move on and make sure next time when you claim fork coins secure yourself. I know you can stand against this challenge to you billy and I can't really help you with this.

So, while the Financial thesis is there to support forking coins, my Computer Science skills are still very lacking. I should have known my limitations and not been so greedy.
Take it as a lesson and reduce the greediness in you.

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May 03, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
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I feel for your lost 13btc just like that, but we are all told that your power to you wallet security idiyour private key once you break that security you are losing your assets to who ever have access to those keys. Your private keys are your freedom once you lose it you are done.
13 btc is a huge money and once it lost it is very hard to retrieve it. Yes that is most important to really save our private keys and never misplaced it. It is sad that others lost their btc this is really huge money.
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May 03, 2018, 12:56:33 PM
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We are sorry to hear news such as this was also exposed to thefts, but for less money, unfortunately there is no solution, but there is no objection to not getting more than the money was stolen I advise you to forget and start again
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

I think this is an undervalued opinion here; but what is it that you suggest that you periodically and systematically take off a "salary" for yourself ?? what about the potential for increase ? how would you feel if you've sold most of your holdings and the price doubled ?

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May 03, 2018, 01:05:06 PM
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I believe the point of compromise happened at one of two places.

1. Using the Ledger to connect to the one of the two BTCP/BTCD Electrum Wallets. The BTCP has an app on the Ledger. The BTCD does not.

2. I don’t recall doing this for my BTC seeds but I might have input them in my hand into the BTCP/BTCD wallets.
That would mean a keylogger has compromised my setup. I’m not normally adventurous in downloading foreign software, generally, aside from rogue Bitcoin wallets (heh...).

So I’m not blaming the BTCP or BTCD Electrum wallets outright as it could have been me inputting my BTC seeds. I don’t recall doing that with my BTC seeds but Indo remember doing that with the old seeds that’s had the BTC already moved.

If anyone is familiar with the BTCP Electrum wallet off Github, that’s where I got it. I’ll have to confirm but I believe I also got the BTCD from there.  I’m sorry if this is unclear. My head is spinning and I’m not sure on where I was compromised.



Nothing would have happened if you only use that forked Electrum with your Ledger device,private keys are always safe in device-you enter your Ledger seed in that Electrum forked wallets,and one or both were false.I'm really surprised that you can not even remember what exactly did you do in process of losing 13 BTC.

You made a beginner mistake,first you have to know how something works and than work with that-you did exactly the opposite.Ignorance and greed are the main factors of this story,and because of that hackers live like kings these days.Your loss is just a drop in the sea of tens of millions, and maybe even hundreds of millions $ which are lost in this way.

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It's really bad thing! Sorry for your loss Sad Don't put all your BTC at one place, please.
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I really don't know what to say. I'm sure lecturing you right now wouldn't help(unless you're planning on investing in the future, which I don't suggest you doing). I just, can't believe how careless could people be with such a huge amount. I personally don't even own one full bitcoin, but I quadruple check and research on everything first as if I had like BTC500.

I mean like, sure, exposing your private keys was a huge mistake; but investing your whole life savings in to bitcoin? colossal mistake.

Maybe it is better you didn't have kids - don't think they'd be so bright considering the genetics thing.
Yikes.

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May 03, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

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I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
bad. a huge amount of money. You have been careless in keeping your BTC. it's your mistake. Hope somebody will kindly return you some BTC
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May 03, 2018, 01:17:44 PM
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Always remember: SECURITY OVER EVERYTHING

You owned 13 bitcoin, you should act like you own 13 bitcoin. I think a huge factor of this mistake is greed. You wanted more money by claiming your Bitcoin Diamond and Bitcoin Private, hence the life wrecking mistake you made.

Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

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bad. a huge amount of money. You have been careless in keeping your BTC. it's your mistake. Hope somebody will kindly return you some BTC
I really doubt hackers would return something they stole.

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May 03, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
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My goodness, your 13 btc stolen? This is really so sad. You've lost your money in a snap. Whoever takes it, he will not give it back. Especially huge amount is taken.
It's always remind for being careful because scammer is everywhere. Do not expose the private key because that's important. What happens to you is a bad thing, this is a lesson to you and reminder to others.
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May 03, 2018, 01:50:14 PM
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Are you serious ? you lose a lot of BTC in your wallet?
I think you are very sad, and of course you will experience bad days.

anyone who receives BTC from him, please return it to him.

and you, you better wait and be patient, do not be pessimistic and always have the spirit, I hope this incident does not make you weak.
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May 03, 2018, 04:52:21 PM
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I think you are very sad, and of course you will experience bad days.
I think "sad" is a huge huge understatement.

anyone who receives BTC from him, please return it to him.
Even though I wish that the hacker gives OP back his/her funds, the chances are pretty much next to zero, unfortunately.

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That's just so sad. I know its a pain in he ass sometimes to want more than what we have but we can never control it. Sometimes we get greedy, but hey, we earned it. We worked our way to get it. Im not blaming you for wanting more. We are all victims of this. What we just need to think is, if by wanting more, we lose everything, then just want what you think is enough to satisfy your needs.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

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I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

It's very sad for you men, I hope that the culprit will return you just a little bit so you can start with trading with small amount. To other users out there protect your belongings very well and dont hold much and especially dont invest all you have you must still learn to save for good. My advice dude is to talk to someone and dont get depress even though its big.
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This is unbelieveable, a sad and devastating news for anyone to bear, caution is the key in the cryptocurrency space as you are you own security. If you keep appealing,there is a possibilty of accessing some of the it
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I really appreciate each of your comments, condolences and criticisms.

Personally, I’m an emotional wreck. Every time I think about this, i just start shaking. I’m NOT suicidal to be clear. It’s just really hard to think my financial freedom from this whole fucking rigged system is gone. The whole reason I entered this space was to have control over my destiny. I’m helpless to the cosmos. Maybe this is a lesson that I was helpless all along. Please, if you’re out there, spare me from my mistakes.
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I'm sure you are much better knowledgeable individual today. I know its hard but we all make mistakes. My advice to you get up take your time and then you could restart with much more tools, knowledge to do 100% better than before. You will see time will help you heal and restart what you want the most. Dont lose hope. tc
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It is hard to imagine hackers doing such bad things. In fact, I can not imagine and endorse any way or method. Unlike MEW, bitcoins are safer. Unfortunately. It's relatively high value right now.
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Oh dear, sorry to hear about the hack on your wallet. I am sure you don’t feel good to lost your life savings.

Thank you for sharing to remind others to be careful. Although, I don’t think the hackers will return your 13 BTC but I wish some miracles will happen to you.
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I really appreciate each of your comments, condolences and criticisms.

Personally, I’m an emotional wreck. Every time I think about this, i just start shaking. I’m NOT suicidal to be clear. It’s just really hard to think my financial freedom from this whole fucking rigged system is gone. The whole reason I entered this space was to have control over my destiny. I’m helpless to the cosmos. Maybe this is a lesson that I was helpless all along. Please, if you’re out there, spare me from my mistakes.
You would have easily been a millionaire before the end of the year.  Now, you gonna have to work the rest of your life for nothing.

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I am really sorry to hear that. I cant imagine how much pain you are going through right now. But life is all about ups and down. Don't loose hope, maybe something bigger is waiting for you in the future. Still its 13 bitcoin !!! I dont know what will i do if i lost them all. Anyway i will pray for you and hope you can overcome with this situation.  
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May 03, 2018, 05:58:59 PM
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Man, I'm shock to this and though it's not mine I really feel sorry about your loss.
Now, you gonna have to work the rest of your life for nothing.
Motivate him instead of telling this, there's still enough time to ride before bitcoin gets on bull.
Personally, I’m an emotional wreck. Every time I think about this, i just start shaking. I’m NOT suicidal to be clear. It’s just really hard to think my financial freedom from this whole fucking rigged system is gone. The whole reason I entered this space was to have control over my destiny. I’m helpless to the cosmos. Maybe this is a lesson that I was helpless all along. Please, if you’re out there, spare me from my mistakes.
Mate just don't think of anything that's near to suicidal and it's good to hear from you that you aren't. It's normal to have that feeling of being emotional wreck and you shake. This isn't the end if you have a day job, you can still grow your money by re-investing again.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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May 03, 2018, 06:11:47 PM
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Damn... I can empathize with you very well. Few months ago I thought I lost my coins because of a stupid mistake too. Then I recovered them thanks to the forum people.

People usually don't understand how important it is to secure your private keys/seeds, wallet files or your PC in general till they actually become a victim.

Many old members warned MEW users to be careful yet many people still got hacked. They warned us to keep our keys offline and not to install shady software to your computer while you have important files in it, yet we still do. If you keep btc/keys in your hot (connected to internet) PC which is already risky, at least install these shady altcoin wallets on your Virtual Machine.

Btw I just learned this BitcoinDiamond has a closed source code only. It screams SCAM!

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I’m way more redpilled to realize I’d be a USD ‘millionaire’.
I’d have the same amount of BTC as I had before the hack.
1BTC=1BTC


1 Month ago, I was notified my position on our Program is ending next Spring 2019.
My Corp is retaining me until then. When I was told this, I actually felt a sense of freedom to explore the world.
My plan was to HODL until next year and reevaluate.
Maybe sell the house? Maybe pay off the house and find a new life path.
Starting a new career and use my BTC as the startup capital. Advance adoption through usage.
All that seems to have shattered...


Anyone support a hardfork to recover? Totally kidding. Immutable means immutable.  Cry

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May 03, 2018, 06:14:14 PM
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It's really very unfortunate, I who know it alone feel very sad and shocked. It seems that it could happen because of our own mistakes or indeed there are who can hack all the wallet you have. It is true in need of more security if such cases are frequent.
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~snip~
You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.
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I think he fully understand keeping all Btc in 1 wallet because he want claim it as much as he can by counting it in block fork. Even many suggestion that shouldn't keep it into 1 place, but none can predict what happen with our fate.

And people, including me, were repeating it over and over. I think I even saw theymos write it.
It's not worth it to risk your BTC to get a couple dollars worth of a forked coin. Especially one of those new forks like diamond, god and so on.
You can quite safely get your BCH and BTG, but always think about it. Do you need another 100$ at the cost of 10k?
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This is good advice to be able to control our greed. Because i'm sure with that 13BTC Op can gain more profit by just holding it or doing trading.
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It's really very unfortunate, I who know it alone feel very sad and shocked. It seems that it could happen because of our own mistakes or indeed there are who can hack all the wallet you have. It is true in need of more security if such cases are frequent.

I’m taking full responsibility for this security breech. It was my fault and I have to live with the consequences.

Bitcoin is the accumulation of all that is good and all that is bad within society. If self sovereign money is possible, it’s incumbent upon me to have secured my money better. I thought I was taking good precautions. I was wrong.
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May 03, 2018, 07:56:47 PM
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I can imagine how you feel. It's really so painful cause 13 BTCs are really a lot of money. I have read a lot of comments here and they are quite encouraging and also a lot to learn. And I must really commend you for staying strong because many people in your situation might have done something bad to themselves. Just want to ask, have you consider tracking down the wallet of the hackers?  I know there might be a little chance, but it's worth trying. 
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I have not actively sought out who holds the BTC.
The BTC looks to have moved a couple times and has been still for a short bit.
It’s out of my hands completely as to whether it gets returned or not.
I truly hope they find it in their heart to return it and release me from this nightmare.
I’m very humbled by the experience and will be changing my OPSec going forward regardless.
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It is hard to imagine hackers doing such bad things. In fact, I can not imagine and endorse any way or method. Unlike MEW, bitcoins are safer. Unfortunately. It's relatively high value right now.

? ? ?

Are you really comparing MEW(a wallet) to bitcoin(a cryptocurrency)?

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Oh, that's terrible Cry
I think criminals have not a whit of conscience..
I hope you find it, Buddy.
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Its unfortunate that  scammers still exist and they are always on the look and very alert to take advantage of the slightest mistake you make to steal your coins 13 BTC is quite a lot but the problem is even if the thief is reading your post now, he may never return your BTC,
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May 04, 2018, 05:07:42 AM
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Sorry for your loss bro. It has been said times without number that before you attempt to claim any fork you should move your fund to a new wallet before proceeding with the claiming procedure.
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Sorry to hear!
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May 04, 2018, 06:09:38 AM
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It is very sad and unfortunate to lose such a huge amount of bitcoin to hackers, I encouraged hodlers to learn a lesson how to secure our wallets by taking more precautionary actions towards protecting our btc again we should avoid tampering with technical issues in our wallets such as forking out coins from the existing btc this can expose and makes us vulnerable to hackers.

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There are two things that you did wrong that's why you've lost your Bitcoins, first you didn't transfer those Bitcoins to a new address/wallet before attempting to sweep/import those private keys to claim that forked coins, it is always advisable to do that because we can't just trust any third party software or websites with our private keys that has Bitcoin on it, especially with big amount. And lastly you had stored a large amount of money in just one address, you should store it on different Bitcoin address for better security. And you said that you invested all of your life saving in Bitcoin, this is totally wrong. You should have hold those savings and only put the amount that you afford to lose on any investment that you want.
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Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.


This is a warning to everyone and is a terrible experience too. I would rather have it withdraw than put it on my wallet for a long time because there are genius hackers out there, trying to hacked your wallet and robbed all your BTC. I would be very sad if this thing will happen to me. But, those robbers will be punished terribly.
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Next time keep it safe your money and also bitcoin. That is not easy to recover or to take it back. You need to safe your money or bitcoin in a different wallets. Because like that, Once your key or password loss its all gone. don't make thing that you can all lost.
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I am deeply saddened for your loss. I also had some coins and BTC stolen from me through various hack attempts and some phishing sites so it is always good to be extra vigilant and careful. Especially if you are working hard to accumulate some funds and then someone is watching to come and steal from you, that is a very sad event indeed. I hope we can get more and more security features in the future whereby we can secure our holdings, big or small for the future and for our safekeeping. I hope one day you can make that money back in the future but it is very hard.


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May 04, 2018, 07:16:49 AM
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I am also feeling very sad after reading your thread. Earning Money is very hard work and time consumption.
I don't know why scammers don't understand someone's feelings. They are making quick money and making others life difficult.
Hope you will get your money soon at least some of that BTCs.

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OMG! Im so sorry!!!
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Oh, poor you! I can't imagine how it is to find out that you have lost the walet of BTC. As for me it would be like a disaster. I think that it is necessary to be very careful with all those keys
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May 04, 2018, 08:35:27 AM
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I think this can be lesson for everyone to be carefully, to keep safe your asset don't trust anyone or any institution when they ask about private key your wallet,or maybe for preventing do not install any suspected softrware on your computer, do not open any suspected link if you get on your email, install good anti virus to protect your computer and once again do not trust anyone if they ask your wallet private keys.
sorry about your loss, and keep your health buddy
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May 04, 2018, 08:44:30 AM
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First thing, why did you invest your whole life savings into something as risky and volatile as Bitcoin? No one should feel sorry for you as you made the mistake of doing the one thing that everyone asked you not to do and that is never invest more than you can afford to lose. i don't think there is any way for you get your bitcoins back now.

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I am completely sorry for your biggest loss. I hope you can get your 13 BTC as soon as possible.  But, you had a biggest mistake while keeping great amount of money in one wallet. This is the most risky behaviour in this bitcoin world.

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May 04, 2018, 09:02:09 AM
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Do you still have your browser history, so you can check where exactly you've downloaded those possibly compromised wallets from?
I really hope you can find out what exactly caused this, I'd be interested in knowing if it was the BTCP wallet.

Maybe it would be a good idea to file a police report for this? I mean chances of getting your coins back are slim, but then your name as already 'tied' to those coins.
In case they eventually bust them, it's good to have everything on record.

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May 04, 2018, 09:15:49 AM
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OMG how it can be.
Really sad to hear it
crypto have this minus, transaction cant be canceled and keys not be recovered

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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

How sad your situation mate, I couldn't imagine to loss that I huge bitcoin funds in an instant, since its very hard to earn now even 1BTC. I know Its hard to recover but you must and don't be ever expect to returned your losses from those hackers, If there Is a chance, I think only %1. And thank you, for sharing  this scenario, so that It could be warned for those new in crypto.
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May 04, 2018, 09:31:27 AM
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I was really scared to read your news. I know you are very upset and I can not help you either. But I really feel sorry for you, please overcome this pain and try to rise in the future.
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May 04, 2018, 09:34:10 AM
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Sorry bro. If you can prove you own the coins and have lost control of them you can still ask for help or beg for donations. I bookmarked your profile just in case.
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I am sad to see the calamity that befell you. I can feel the sadness you feel, you must be very sorry and disappointed with what you have done. on the other hand you should take this as a lesson so you are more careful in keeping your bitcoin dompen.
I hope someone who has earned bitcoin from your wallet, he is willing to return it back to you.
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May 04, 2018, 09:45:26 AM
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is it true 13 BTC is really horrible to save assets in ledger better store it directly in blockchain.info because the wallet is proved to have very high security. it's better to avoid the risk than to lose that much asset.

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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

theres nothing you can do about it... just accept the fact that you loss your money. better start again and be cafeful next time you open your wallet.. no one will give it back to you... thefts are greedy people..
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May 04, 2018, 10:29:27 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

I don't understand, was your computer compromised, is that it?

Are any of those wallets you use compromised?

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May 04, 2018, 10:57:54 AM
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is it true 13 BTC is really horrible to save assets in ledger better store it directly in blockchain.info because the wallet is proved to have very high security. it's better to avoid the risk than to lose that much asset.
What? are you sure with what you are suggesting and saying?

Coming from you that hardware wallets are more vulnerable than a web wallet? You're wrong in here and you misunderstood on what happened with OP's condition of doing the fork thing.

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May 04, 2018, 11:09:15 AM
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When I read these messages, my heart bleeds. I am truly sorry and please accept my condolences. It is necessary to carefully and responsibly approach the storage of your investment capital. I hope that you will not give up and will soon be able to return some of the savings.
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May 04, 2018, 11:23:43 AM
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If it makes you feel any better, I blew 20 BTC on a hand of Seals poker. Of course, that was years ago and the coins were worth $200 or so.  Smiley
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May 04, 2018, 01:33:36 PM
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Extremely sad to hear what happened with you. Angry

  But can you or some one else please explain how exactly this happened??

So how exactly did this happen?

I believe the point of compromise happened at one of two places.

1. Using the Ledger to connect to the one of the two BTCP/BTCD Electrum Wallets. The BTCP has an app on the Ledger. The BTCD does not.

2. I don’t recall doing this for my BTC seeds but I might have input them in my hand into the BTCP/BTCD wallets.
That would mean a keylogger has compromised my setup. I’m not normally adventurous in downloading foreign software, generally, aside from rogue Bitcoin wallets (heh...).

So I’m not blaming the BTCP or BTCD Electrum wallets outright as it could have been me inputting my BTC seeds. I don’t recall doing that with my BTC seeds but Indo remember doing that with the old seeds that’s had the BTC already moved.

If anyone is familiar with the BTCP Electrum wallet off Github, that’s where I got it. I’ll have to confirm but I believe I also got the BTCD from there.  I’m sorry if this is unclear. My head is spinning and I’m not sure on where I was compromised.



It is a really devastating thread and I have read it with sinking heart. I too was extracting BCH and BTG from the BTC wallets and just thinking how easy it is to fall a victim if one is not very very cautious and thinking and rethinking what one does before actually doing it, well, it makes me sick.

Probably you will not retrieve those founds and they are lost for you, but I hope that story will be a cold shower for some fork enthusiasts and will save somebody from doing those mistakes again. Thanks for sharing.

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May 04, 2018, 01:36:15 PM
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Waw thats too much to lose it. And i think many people are like you too when they start it from a past year ago when it price is still not much.
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May 04, 2018, 01:47:21 PM
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That was really huge amount of bitcoin, I'm sorry for your lose.  From my view I think that it's impossible to get that bitcoin back. Next time be more careful and try to hold your bitcoin on Ledger wallet and don't share your btc seed.

If it makes you feel any better, I blew 20 BTC on a hand of Seals poker. Of course, that was years ago and the coins were worth $200 or so.  Smiley

I think that it's not the same to lose $4000 and $117 000.. btw. do you remember guy which pay 10,000 Bitcoins for pizza , how he feel now? Cheesy
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
That was too sad that you've lost 13 BTC? wow!! That's a too big amount of yours and now you've just lost it.  Cry It's too hard to move on on that amount because that is a too huge amount for me. You can already make your own business in that amount but someone stole your own money with your own wallet. WOW! Maybe you have a friend that knows your private password or private keys and get all your BTC in your wallet.
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May 04, 2018, 02:19:46 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

I don't understand, was your computer compromised, is that it?

Are any of those wallets you use compromised?

He exposed his private key while trying to claim his coins through a malicious wallet.

I'm sorry for your brother,  many of the older members have lost a lot more btc in the past, you have to try to see past it at some point and keep at it. 
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May 04, 2018, 02:21:41 PM
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Ouch. I only hold my Bitcoin wallet dat on my flash disks with Electrum software. I would avoid all forks since many are scams.
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May 04, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
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it is very unfortunate in losing 13btc even i lost 7 BTC in an Ponzi trading program when i brought btc it is 1000 dollars and when i lost BTC was 6000 dollars you  can imagine the pain I went through
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13 Bitcoin is very huge amount of money, sorry for the loss man, everythings gonna be alright not now but very soon, hope this experience gives you a lesson and become verycareful, better to watch and read about the security of the cryptowallet. Dont loss hope.
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May 04, 2018, 02:25:09 PM
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That was really huge amount of bitcoin, I'm sorry for your lose.  From my view I think that it's impossible to get that bitcoin back. Next time be more careful and try to hold your bitcoin on Ledger wallet and don't share your btc seed.

If it makes you feel any better, I blew 20 BTC on a hand of Seals poker. Of course, that was years ago and the coins were worth $200 or so.  Smiley

I think that it's not the same to lose $4000 and $117 000.. btw. do you remember guy which pay 10,000 Bitcoins for pizza , how he feel now? Cheesy

Lol yeah if you feel bad about it, and you probably should be because that amount in btc by far is not a laughing matter, there are people who've lost way more in the past. I don't think there's a way to retrieve those so take it a life lesson. Just don't let that discourage you in getting into bitcoin since you can very well earn that again.

 
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May 04, 2018, 02:31:23 PM
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do you keep it in 1 same purse? it should be the worst you have anticipated by dividing your assets on some wallets or exchange, or you sell some of your bitcoin on fiat money and keep it in your account, I'm more secure
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May 04, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
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Wow thats horrible. That is the nightmare scenario for any crypto user...make a mistake and get hacked and lose all your money. Sorry it happened to the OP.

I wouldn't even bother with all these forks for a while. They aren't worth much and if you have your coins in long term storage there's no reason to bother with that small extra amount of money. May as well keep them and when at some later time you are moving your coins to sell them then bother with trying to get the forks.
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May 04, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
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How could this be prevented?

It seems like his problem was he didn't move his BTC first right? If he had moved his Bitcoin to a different wallet first, then he could have safely used the private key on the previous wallet to get the forked coins since that BTC wallet would be empty at that point. Is my logic correct on that?
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May 04, 2018, 02:44:56 PM
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aww ...that's really bad...but if someone stole this he is not going to give you .You should realise that.
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May 04, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
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do not be agan. one of the best friends and the one who taught me. about the bitcoin digital world. he also lost 63 bitcon. because the error is not too fatal. because of its HP. in play by the child .
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May 04, 2018, 02:46:59 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

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@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
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H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
it's terrible  Cry it's much more than amount many people in developing countries can make through their life.
but I don't understand how you can lost it as you said you kept it in your ledger. How can hacker sign for that transaction?
don't beg scammer or hacker they never care about you. they should go to the helll

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May 04, 2018, 02:50:09 PM
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This made me feel sick, hope you recover soon. Get back on your feet as fast as you can and move on.
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May 06, 2018, 03:25:04 PM
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How could this be prevented?

It seems like his problem was he didn't move his BTC first right? If he had moved his Bitcoin to a different wallet first, then he could have safely used the private key on the previous wallet to get the forked coins since that BTC wallet would be empty at that point. Is my logic correct on that?

Yes that's his main mistake.

If he had moved moved his coins to a different wallet/address and secured them right (this part is also important), he wouldn't have had any problems most likely. But dealing with these scam wallets in the same PC that you also hold your bitcoins, if it wasn't that scam wallet/app/program, it was going to be something else as the OP wasn't cautious enough with his stuff. There are copy/paste trojans, wallet thieves, ransomware stuff... It It wasn't this, It would be the other one.


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May 06, 2018, 03:28:36 PM
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

this is the right point. It takes substantial efforts to protect your money in crypto and once you lose them, there is no getting it back. Just keep in it the saving you can effort to lose.

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May 06, 2018, 03:46:24 PM
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This is very unfortunate! You should have researched on how to extract forked coins safely before embarking on doing it. I always read, collect information on how others did it and what they have to share with the rest of the community.
The only forked coin I got up to now was Bitcoin Cash, did considerable research  before doing it. Created a new Electrum wallet, moved my BTC to that new wallet. Then used the old wallet to get my BCH, from there BCH was immediately moved elsewhere. I am not used that old Electrum wallet for anything now. Furthermore, as mentioned by other never put a large portion of your cryptos in one wallet, diversify that should be the norm. Take care bro.
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May 06, 2018, 04:59:56 PM
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Wow that's a lot. I am sorry for what you experienced. Hopefully there is a way out about the problem you are facing right now.

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May 06, 2018, 05:03:17 PM
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as an experience that never lost a coin I advise you to keep your wallet in an offline wallet. you can use an external wallet to save a wallet can use trezzor or nano ledger wallet it can be used as your savings and you will feel safe.

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May 08, 2018, 10:22:22 PM
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How could this be prevented?

It seems like his problem was he didn't move his BTC first right? If he had moved his Bitcoin to a different wallet first, then he could have safely used the private key on the previous wallet to get the forked coins since that BTC wallet would be empty at that point. Is my logic correct on that?
yes it is correct - partly. You see, the coins he tried to claim (Bitcoin Diamond and Bitcoin Private) are really shitcoins worth almost nothing, just a fraction of a percent of BTC value. But there are other BTC forks out there. They are protected by the same private keys. And they are worth a significant percent of BTC value. I would say that at least Bitcoin Cash would be worth securing together with BTC before any attempt to claim those dangerous shitcoins is made. So, the correct strategy would be to start with moving BTC to another address (controlled by you), then the same with Bitcoin Cash, then any other forks in the order of their value.
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May 08, 2018, 10:36:01 PM
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Oh my God. This is a huge amount of money, try to remember where you left the private key and you can use it to get back your BTC password. I really hope you get your money back. Try to be more careful in later times.
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May 09, 2018, 04:42:39 PM
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Don't be too sad, my friend, though it's hard to recover. We all know that 13 bitcoins are a lot of money. Now I can only pray that you can take back a small part of it. Give yourself a day holiday to go out with your family and hope you get better as soon as possible.
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May 09, 2018, 04:53:39 PM
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Hello everyone, then what happened at you is very scary. I'm very sorry that this happened. But try to learn from this situation, so that this never happened
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May 09, 2018, 05:09:40 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.



If this is true, as you said, other newcomers in the crypto currency should learn from your mistake. You can not store all your savings in a crypto currency, especially in one place. I know that you understand this now, but you need to diversify the risks.
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May 09, 2018, 05:33:38 PM
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Sorry if this sound stupid. I dont get it. How come the OP was hacked by just importing his BTC private keys in Electrum? Meaning Electrum wallet is not safe to use? Who stole his 13BTC by the way?
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May 09, 2018, 05:52:29 PM
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very sad man Sad if this accident happened to me,i would have been there in the hospital really you are a very strong mentality.First of all,you should not have taken so much risk because it's not low amount it's just 13 BTC man.Everybody has to be careful in this issue.
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May 09, 2018, 05:59:50 PM
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It's very terrible to lose everything that you had. But still, no one ever keeps all of your savings in one place, in one currency, at the same address. Thus you can not be completely robbed. This rule applies to both crypto currency and...
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May 09, 2018, 06:16:32 PM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.

yes I really agree with you, maybe better for you and your BTC, do not have to put everything in 1 bag, because in my opinion it would be very risky to lose, maybe i think what maybe this is the caliber of your close friends but i dont think bad about this and I just guessed it.
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May 09, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
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13 BTC loss omg this is very bad think.I'm very sorry for that no have ways to your back money. Really if you have good skills then you will can be recovery your money shortly. So don't forget skills ,you can do that I hope your best time sonly back ...

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May 09, 2018, 07:42:26 PM
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Damn.... For as much as it hurts, the fault was from you. You don't keep a bulk of such asset as Bitcoin in just one wallet. Exposing your seed phrase was another.

Anyways, I believe this is a lesson for us l to learn.


Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

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May 09, 2018, 08:56:08 PM
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Sorry if this sound stupid. I dont get it. How come the OP was hacked by just importing his BTC private keys in Electrum? Meaning Electrum wallet is not safe to use? Who stole his 13BTC by the way?
it was not Electrum wallet. It was a copy-paste clone of Electrum or whatever other legitimate wallet created to claim the forked Bitcoin Diamond and Bitcoin Private. Electrum wouldn't allow that, as Electrum works for real Bitcoin (BTC) only. So he pasted his private key into this clone and the clone developer(s) sweeped his BTC wallet.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
Often the subject of the problem of security Ledger Nano was discussed. I would not buy such a device if I need secure my money. Wallet has very big progam holes. Sad situation...
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May 09, 2018, 09:21:00 PM
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Sorry if this sound stupid. I dont get it. How come the OP was hacked by just importing his BTC private keys in Electrum? Meaning Electrum wallet is not safe to use? Who stole his 13BTC by the way?
it was not Electrum wallet. It was a copy-paste clone of Electrum or whatever other legitimate wallet created to claim the forked Bitcoin Diamond and Bitcoin Private. Electrum wouldn't allow that, as Electrum works for real Bitcoin (BTC) only. So he pasted his private key into this clone and the clone developer(s) sweeped his BTC wallet.

That is a very sophisticated scam, feel bad for the OP who lost 13 BTCs. The problem is that the feeling will simply get worse when bitcoin rises, it will be regret and annoyance. Not sure if there is any advice that can make you feel better other than to go to the police and see if they can do anything.
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Its unfortunate that we repeat the same mistakes over and over again which leads to loss making, we cant do much about your loss but if it was your fault then don't cry, the amount lost is way too high to be lost out of carelessness. we must continue to take precautions when dealing with BTC, the coin is way too valuable
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May 09, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
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Sorry about your loss.
First of all, it seems hard to find.
But don't lose hope and keep track of the wallet.
Cheer up because money is not everything.
13 BTC is quite a lot of money, I hope you find it.
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May 09, 2018, 10:41:17 PM
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If this is true, as you said, other newcomers in the crypto currency should learn from your mistake. You can not store all your savings in a crypto currency, especially in one place. I know that you understand this now, but you need to diversify the risks.

I have learned already from a friend before not to put all my investments in one place. He said that the bigger your wallet has, the more hackers it can attract. Loosing 1 BTC could be painful but 13 BTC is something more like devastating and I feel sad for the OP. It seems like there is no solution for him to recover what was stolen, the only choice left is for the hacker to somehow feel pity (even just a little bit) and give it back fully or just a portion of it.

Sad to know that there are people who can even take to do this to other people. I know that every one of us works hard to earn money and taking it away just like that proves that there are human who don't act like humans at all.

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May 09, 2018, 10:48:37 PM
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That is terrible news and im very sorry for you. Dont let it ruin crypto for you. There are so many people that have lost lots of money by making simple mistakes like sending 60k to the wrong address and having it just be dusted. The good news is we are all still early to the game. Try and get your head straight and make some smart investments. You can make it all back over the next few years. An additional thing I would suggest is using 2FA. I know that wasnt the issue here but it is worth taking every step possible to secure your investments. Keep your head up.
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May 09, 2018, 10:59:54 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss. But you have to be careful. It's money. This situation can be compared with the work of the sapper. Once made a mistake and no longer need.

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May 09, 2018, 11:01:32 PM
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Thanks. Worst day of my life. No idea what I’m going to do.

I’m praying the culprits have half a heart to return some of it...

Please, I’m begging you, whoever you are.



Its so sad man im praying for you to recover your losses,it happened already so lets move on, it could be the lesson for you and to everyone to be careful and to educate self firsr esp. In securing wallets.,
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May 09, 2018, 11:19:28 PM
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so sorry about that. it has happened dont slow your pace, just make sure you work hard and keep your new wallet always on check.
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May 09, 2018, 11:34:55 PM
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I feel sorry for you. The good thing on crypto is, nobody can steal or take your money, if your private keys are really secret. The bad thing on crypto is, if someone stole your keys or if you lost your keys, nobody can help you.
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May 09, 2018, 11:44:35 PM
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 Cry I really feel it for you. Hope you can recover from this.
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May 10, 2018, 12:11:44 AM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.

How exactly did the theft take place? Please elaborate.

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May 10, 2018, 12:53:49 AM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.

This lesson is not only for the poster, but for all of us. Sorry for the huge loss. But it should be carved in everyone's brain: be careful when you want to claim the fork coins. Most of them are just shit, and don't worth your risk of losing all of your bitcoin.
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May 10, 2018, 12:59:45 AM
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Seriously? If that happened to me, I will find myself crying on the corner of our house. Thirteen bitcoin is not that easy to earn. If I know that I am holding that amount in my wallet, I would like to cash it out as soon as possible. I feel that my wallet very attractive to hackers. So cash it out in order to secure it much more. Better to deposit it in a bank or better to keeo it in my house. I am also careful to open my wallet because there are so many fake sites. Better to check the address first before logging in.
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All I can say is, wow that's a lot of money. Anonymity is really a double-edged sword. I'm really sorry for your lost, and I hope the culprit/s find it in his/her/their heart to return your hard-earned money. I mean, that's really tragic man.  Sad I hope you recover from this very soon. It also served as a lesson to all newbies out there, that they need to be extra cautious in putting cryptocurrencies into their wallet and that they should ensure that whatever device they are using is secure and free from malicious programs that criminals can use to get access to their account.

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May 10, 2018, 02:14:08 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

Sorry for your loss, and hopefully some can learn from this experience. The market is still young enough that you can bounce back somewhat if you continue investing and securing your coins properly.
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May 10, 2018, 02:17:13 AM
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This might not help too much but you could try at least with a new cryptocurrency called Brickblock where you just join their website and follow them on twitter and you are already making money, you should try it out
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May 10, 2018, 02:21:17 AM
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One lesson if using a hardware wallet is to only use software approved by the hardware wallet manufacturer.
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May 10, 2018, 02:45:24 AM
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Sorry dude.There is no way to get your BTC back, i advice you not to put too much BTC in one wallet, you have to spilt your BTC in several wallets , exchanges. So i think that will help you secure your life-saving. Cyber crimes are all around.
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May 10, 2018, 03:27:40 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

sad history my friend, but as we say on my country "you will dry yourself waiting"
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May 10, 2018, 04:01:54 AM
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This made me feel sick, hope you recover soon. Get back on your feet as fast as you can and move on.
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May 10, 2018, 04:08:04 AM
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wow, 13 btc stolen, really very sad, i am sorry about it, i may be crazy, if i become you. honestly we can not do anything, you must be willing to let go and work harder to return all the money

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May 10, 2018, 04:41:24 AM
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veryone should be very careful even with single little mistake one can loose whole investment.
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May 10, 2018, 05:11:11 AM
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It's a lesson worth for all of us to stay safe against MEW before you do anything because it will make you regret. Thanks for sharing to remind others to be careful. Although, I do not think the hackers will return.
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May 10, 2018, 05:11:26 AM
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That's awful man, sorry to hear it! It's good that you at least shared this so it can serve as a warning for the rest of us. Move your coins to a new wallet before using your private key to claim forked coins. Where did you find the client that stole your coins?

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May 10, 2018, 05:23:49 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.




I think that is the biggest mistakes that you made because you losy you entire wallet that have a 13 BTC? If you convert it now to real money 13 Btc can also be a million. I think you must find a way to get it back because that is so big amount of money.
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May 10, 2018, 05:29:24 AM
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That is a huge amount and I'm extremely sorry for your loss, but I don't think they'll return your money. Even I was scammed here by bitvigo and I was as helpless as you're I could do nothing about it.

In your case if you had purchased it via bank and filed taxes or if no taxes applicable you could approach your IT cell and ask them to investigate.

File a case under Jon DAE (a case against Unkown persons and hope for a miracle, I could not recover my coins I hope you're able to recover yours).
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May 10, 2018, 07:05:36 AM
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My goodness! Cry 1 Btc for me is good enough what if 13 Btc will vanish I think for me it is the worst nightmare in my whole life. It is really sad to hear that the huge wealth will diappear for just an hour like a bubble. Maybe if I am in that situation I think I don't know what to do. But I would like to thanks to you for giving us a warning maybe we should beware for that kind of situation.
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May 10, 2018, 07:09:50 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
I am sorry to hear that, if you lost your bitcoin or your bitcoin wallet then I think you cant retrieved it, because it is very complex thing to access again, I think this scenario is a lesson for you to be smarter than your past self.

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May 10, 2018, 07:16:55 AM
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13 btc now is very big amount and I hope your 13 bitvoin will back again . But I don't think they have chances or any other way but I hope you will get so you can use it become  your life better.  Try to make a research bro about this so you can know it if they have chances or not.
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May 10, 2018, 08:11:43 AM
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He had his funds stolen because of the fork. Exactly how did the theft take place?

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May 10, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

Sorry to hear of this loss. I tend to stay away from the forks unless I am totally up to date and confident with the procedure. (of course using some small test amounts first).

Other than that experience you are going through, and of course there may be some light at the end of the tunnel - I do hope this is a lesson to others too.

And also do not hold so much in ANY WALLET.

Back up the private keys too, do not just remain and rely on the wallet.dat as these can easily become corrupted.

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May 10, 2018, 08:40:18 AM
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Why did you keep all your life savings in BTC? I really don't get it. Unfortunately the only thing that you can do now is analyse your actions step by step to find out which software has been compromised. You either have a trojan on your computer or downloaded fake wallets that had a backdoor allowing the hacker to get your keys.
The money is gone either way, calm down, have some alcohol or try to get some sleep. The sooner you get over it the better for your health.
It is a really unfortunate situation, most probably he tried to extract the fork coins using the private keys keeping the bitcoin in the wallet and that is the biggest mistake he did, we have discussed about extracting the new coins and how to do it safely, the risk of using your private key with the coins in it is the most damaging thing you can do. I am not even sure who is behind BTC Diamond and BTC Private and i have not extracted anything till now, the only coin i moved is BCH and that too first moving my bitcoin to another wallet and that is the safest way.

Never mind that you are lossing of 13btc. You have to invest more so that the 13 btc that you are lossing for. will return you more. I hope that it will not happened to me.
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May 10, 2018, 08:43:03 AM
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I am sorry to hear that my friend, but i think it's best not to put all of your fortune into cryptocurrencies. But, for this tragedy already happened, i suggest you must be strong and accept it that you will goes up again. That's kinda mistake could make you more stronger and more careful for sure. One's should not down too long, goodluck.
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There are many types of wallet that you can find what you want as long as you know safe to not be hacked. You will invest money you know well enough.

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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

My god, please, don't be so sad...
I already tell a little story here
it was story about my friend, who lost his bag with notebook, and his ipad
he has near 7 BTC on his wallet, and many ethereum, on myetherwallet
and, of course, he has some altcoins, like tefood tokens, etc.
he is cry, when it happen!
i never see him crying!
And, of course, he really need psyhological help
it seems to me, that if i amn't near him at that moment, he really can think about suicide  Cry
i just try to tell, that his life is more important, than money... but it was very hard ...
Sorry to you  Cry

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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

So sorry to hear that Cry it is amazing money at that time...
i couldn't imagine, how can that happens with you
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May 10, 2018, 09:11:49 AM
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It is a really unfortunate situation, most probably he tried to extract the fork coins using the private keys keeping the bitcoin in the wallet and that is the biggest mistake he did, we have discussed about extracting the new coins and how to do it safely, the risk of using your private key with the coins in it is the most damaging thing you can do. I am not even sure who is behind BTC Diamond and BTC Private and i have not extracted anything till now, the only coin i moved is BCH and that too first moving my bitcoin to another wallet and that is the safest way.

So this is how the theft took place. I feel so sorry for the OP.

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May 10, 2018, 09:16:14 AM
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I think it's very painful news to you. But sorry for that lossing your money,I have no ways to return got your Money.i have nice suggest,you have skills about Bitcoin. Then you can try again earn money Bitcoin. I hope soon you will recover your money. So don't nerves..

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If it makes us feel more comfortable and good, then I will try to buy 15 BTC at the hands of poker Seals. Of course, that was years ago and the coins were worth $ 200 or more, but I hope we will not give up and will soon be able to return some of our previous savings.
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On the positive side you have only lost half as much $ as if you had been hacked at Christmas.
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You have been hacked. condolatory
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I bet someone has hacked and hacked your account
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Things that seem very small are viruses, which make you lose that big money.
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May 10, 2018, 09:39:21 AM
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I'm sad with this type of incident that you will lost all your savings for your future as nothing left on your 13 BTC. That's a lot of money and I can't imagine how you will overcome this incident. We should be very careful in dealings with our wallet and not to expose our private keys to anyone.

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May 10, 2018, 10:44:05 AM
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I'm sad with this type of incident that you will lost all your savings for your future as nothing left on your 13 BTC. That's a lot of money and I can't imagine how you will overcome this incident. We should be very careful in dealings with our wallet and not to expose our private keys to anyone.

Excellent advice.

The OP did not expose the private key to an individual, instead he copied and pasted it in to a new wallet that was created to use by a fork. He should have transferred his Bitcoins out to a new wallet/address and then used the empty wallet to try to obtain the new forked coins. Sadly he did not know that and someone, somehow used his keys to obtain the balance from the bitcoin wallet.

Without knowing much about the forked coin I cannot speculate on how the scam was carried out but everybody should take care in all aspects of crypto related issues.

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Nowadays, you cant trust anyone with money, on that you have given your seeds to websites. Most of these extracting websites are made to get hold of seeds of wallets like yours. Sorry for your loss, I would suggest you, forget that you ever had any bitcoins.

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This a lesson learned to everyone do not store much money in just one address, maybe we should split our funds into multiple address and do some safety measure in transfering funds like creating a bridge account.

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WTF 13 BTC GONE JUST LIKE THAT,ITS QUIT PAINFUL HOPE THE CROOK REFUND SOME OF IT.. WHY EMPYT IT AL THOUGH?!.. HEARTLESS. BEING!..
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May 10, 2018, 11:14:27 AM
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Sorry if this sound stupid. I dont get it. How come the OP was hacked by just importing his BTC private keys in Electrum? Meaning Electrum wallet is not safe to use? Who stole his 13BTC by the way?
it was not Electrum wallet. It was a copy-paste clone of Electrum or whatever other legitimate wallet created to claim the forked Bitcoin Diamond and Bitcoin Private. Electrum wouldn't allow that, as Electrum works for real Bitcoin (BTC) only. So he pasted his private key into this clone and the clone developer(s) sweeped his BTC wallet.

That is a very sophisticated scam, feel bad for the OP who lost 13 BTCs. The problem is that the feeling will simply get worse when bitcoin rises, it will be regret and annoyance. Not sure if there is any advice that can make you feel better other than to go to the police and see if they can do anything.

I have a feeling that in my country you would spend a few hours explaining to the police what bitcoin is and why it is worth anything and then ultimately they would think you lost some gadget from online game and discard your case anyway. Even if not, if they understand Bitcoin, I doubt they can really do anything for the OP.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

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Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
That was an extremely unforgiving choice thus you have endured an immense loss. 13 BTC is never again a little sum today it is a decent arrangement as of now. Your blame is that you didn't make and try different things with a little sum before you did it with your wallet that has 13 BTC. In any case, next time on the off chance that you truly need to have a forked coins at that point take a stab at putting it in yobit, the forked coins will consequently show up in your adjust as long as you have BTC.
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May 10, 2018, 12:20:05 PM
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Hey, perhaps we can do what Ethereum does.  Fork the blockchain, roll it back so he doesn't lose his BTC and then carry on as normal.  Wink
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I feel sad for your loss. I hope you can rise again from your failures and can learn from your mistakes. Stay patient and stay strong.

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May 10, 2018, 12:41:54 PM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.

Kept too much BTC in one wallet is not fault here...He exposed the private key for unknown things. For some one 1 BTC itself big amount for others even 100 BTC is small. If the 100 BTC holders wanna split the BTC in multiple accounts he need many wallets. It is not the solution. He need to be safe. Never ever expose your private key to anyone.
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May 10, 2018, 01:42:10 PM
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So sorry for your loss. I hope you will be fine. Sad For other, please be careful with your wallet.
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May 10, 2018, 01:46:47 PM
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I think you made a mistake with your Ledger Nano purse. You may know that A private key may have duplicated ledger Nano. They used your code to log in and steal the BTC, which is why I did not want to buy a Ledger Nano through a third party.
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May 10, 2018, 01:58:16 PM
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Oh, poor! Embarrassed Bad news. I can't imagine such a situation as this is really awful! If I had such, I think I would be in depression for long. However, I don't have 13 bitcoins) but for the future I will do my best to make sure that i won't lose it
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May 10, 2018, 02:03:00 PM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.
Thats what im thinking about OP,hes being careless thats why he was hacked..you should have divided your coins into different wallets,each of them must be in their own wallet and about your bitcoin thats too big to be in single wallet.
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May 10, 2018, 02:17:50 PM
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Sorry if this sound stupid. I dont get it. How come the OP was hacked by just importing his BTC private keys in Electrum? Meaning Electrum wallet is not safe to use? Who stole his 13BTC by the way?
it was not Electrum wallet. It was a copy-paste clone of Electrum or whatever other legitimate wallet created to claim the forked Bitcoin Diamond and Bitcoin Private. Electrum wouldn't allow that, as Electrum works for real Bitcoin (BTC) only. So he pasted his private key into this clone and the clone developer(s) sweeped his BTC wallet.

That is a very sophisticated scam, feel bad for the OP who lost 13 BTCs. The problem is that the feeling will simply get worse when bitcoin rises, it will be regret and annoyance. Not sure if there is any advice that can make you feel better other than to go to the police and see if they can do anything.

I have a feeling that in my country you would spend a few hours explaining to the police what bitcoin is and why it is worth anything and then ultimately they would think you lost some gadget from online game and discard your case anyway. Even if not, if they understand Bitcoin, I doubt they can really do anything for the OP.
it is not going to be handled by the police, because bitcoin is not a stuff that has a form so no one can help on this side of the police is the risk of his dicryptocurrency no one has responsibility for the crime, then it can only be made as a lesson to be more careful again.

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May 10, 2018, 04:01:03 PM
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very deep condolence for you. if i were you, maybe i would end up like you too.
i hope the culprit of your wallet change their heart because they see you in this forum.
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May 10, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
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The topic of this thread brings up a good point about a place where crypto is very lacking. Crypto is only secure in cold storage, but you can't spend from cold storage, and it is an annoying process to move your coins from cold storage, leave some in a hot wallet for spending, and move the rest back to a new cold storage address. That is all far to complicated and confusing for the average user. There needs to be a simple, quick, secure, and automated way to move cold storage funds to a hot wallet. And hot wallets need to be secure. We should never have to worry about our money being stolen simply because we have a mobile wallet or a wallet on our laptop. If storing crypto in hot wallets isn't super secure then crypto will never be used as a payment platform and will never evolve past a store of value to be held for long periods in cold storage.
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The topic of this thread brings up a good point about a place where crypto is very lacking. Crypto is only secure in cold storage, but you can't spend from cold storage, and it is an annoying process to move your coins from cold storage, leave some in a hot wallet for spending, and move the rest back to a new cold storage address. That is all far to complicated and confusing for the average user. There needs to be a simple, quick, secure, and automated way to move cold storage funds to a hot wallet. And hot wallets need to be secure. We should never have to worry about our money being stolen simply because we have a mobile wallet or a wallet on our laptop. If storing crypto in hot wallets isn't super secure then crypto will never be used as a payment platform and will never evolve past a store of value to be held for long periods in cold storage.

That's why you need to have 2 different wallets for 2 different purposes.

One of them should be a wallet for your daily purchases. You shouldn't be keeping more than a couple of hundreds in this wallet.

And the other would be a hodl only wallet, created offline with a airgap PC by the Bitcoin Core wallet... This wallet only should have incoming transactions. Because that's your retirement account.

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May 11, 2018, 11:52:11 AM
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Oh, poor! Embarrassed Bad news. I can't imagine such a situation as this is really awful! If I had such, I think I would be in depression for long. However, I don't have 13 bitcoins) but for the future I will do my best to make sure that i won't lose it
From this lesson we must be careful, put bitcoin on one wallet is a very risky thing, we have to divide bitcoin into some wallet so if there is problem or missing on one wallet then we still have another, and of course is to distinguish every password in wallet . Good luck.


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May 11, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
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I hope you get at least a little amount of what you lost but this serves everyone a lesson, and most especially to those who are new to the crypto world and who wants to invest in their life savings. Always put in mind that if you invest in something, you are ready to lose everything because if that amount hurts you then I think it is more than what you are capable of losing. Invest only on an amount you are ready to lose, that should be placed as rule number 1 in trading.

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May 11, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
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The topic of this thread brings up a good point about a place where crypto is very lacking. Crypto is only secure in cold storage, but you can't spend from cold storage, and it is an annoying process to move your coins from cold storage, leave some in a hot wallet for spending, and move the rest back to a new cold storage address. That is all far to complicated and confusing for the average user. There needs to be a simple, quick, secure, and automated way to move cold storage funds to a hot wallet. And hot wallets need to be secure. We should never have to worry about our money being stolen simply because we have a mobile wallet or a wallet on our laptop. If storing crypto in hot wallets isn't super secure then crypto will never be used as a payment platform and will never evolve past a store of value to be held for long periods in cold storage.

Valid point about send coins to cold storage back then back to hot wallet and back to cold wallet in order partially spend your balance.

In future this might be tackled when upgrades take place until then it is a pain to go through a lengthy process. Many people lost coins when sending from their paper wallets to other wallets because they did not know how to do it properly.

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May 11, 2018, 04:16:04 PM
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That is terrible news and im very sorry for you. Dont let it ruin crypto for you. There are so many people that have lost lots of money by making simple mistakes like sending 60k to the wrong address and having it just be dusted. The good news is we are all still early to the game. Try and get your head straight and make some smart investments. You can make it all back over the next few years. An additional thing I would suggest is using 2FA. I know that wasnt the issue here but it is worth taking every step possible to secure your investments. Keep your head up.
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I am sorry for the loss of your bitcoin which I think is very much. May you remain besabar and spirit to get it again.

Looks like bitcoin storage wallet is still very vulnerable from the hackers, there are still many cases of loss experienced by people. Whether it's because of our fault or indeed the security of the wallet is still very lacking, it's hard to trace it. Obviously we have to keep all the passwords and privatekey of our wallet,
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I'm really really sorry for your loss, 13BTC is a very big amount. hope you can let it go and face the future as usual again.
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I'm really really sorry for your loss, 13BTC is a very big amount. hope you can let it go and face the future as usual again.
well, i do not know what to do. 13 btc is really that much money for now, there are even some predictions that bitcoin prices will really skyrocket. well, I'm sorry about that. hopefully someday it will be replaced.
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May 11, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
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Losing my entire wallet of thirteen (13) bitcoins and what amount it is, its either higher or lower amount it is one of the bad days and horrible day that might happen to me because losing is not good at all.
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May 11, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
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Of course this is sad, losing 13 btc or about $ 125k, luckily i never had bitcoin more than 5 btc because i always thought that bitcoin could disappear anytime so the safest way is by exchange to fiat and transfer to account.
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May 11, 2018, 08:12:21 PM
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The OP was registered on 2nd May 2018 and last active 4th May 2018 - today is 11th May 2018

As sad as this unfortunate event was it is time to let it go and stop posting here just as the OP has too.

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May 11, 2018, 08:20:28 PM
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that's a lot, you should be more careful in maintaining the privacy of your wallet, do not expect it will come back, no good thief. try to be more careful ahead again.
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oh really sad mate... always store your keys of wallet safe guys.. Smiley and never invest in crypto everything that if you get loss you are end with it :p

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that's a lot, you should be more careful in maintaining the privacy of your wallet, do not expect it will come back, no good thief. try to be more careful ahead again.
this is so much thing that you have to regret for but doing things that we all know this is so much thing to make this more better and not to count lose or for what you have to loss for is so much good to take on we are here to make our mistake to be right on and to be learn too.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

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I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
this is why I always keep Bitcoin and Ethereum in my trusty Wallet Exchanger, because the exchanger site I use and almost every major exchanger site has security and receives complaints very well...



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May 11, 2018, 08:26:59 PM
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I'm really really sorry for your loss, 13BTC is a very big amount. hope you can let it go and face the future as usual again.
well, i do not know what to do. 13 btc is really that much money for now, there are even some predictions that bitcoin prices will really skyrocket. well, I'm sorry about that. hopefully someday it will be replaced.
Thirteen bitcoin is not that easy to earn. If I know that I am holding that amount in my wallet, I would like to cash it out as soon as possible. I feel that my wallet very attractive to hackers. So cash it out in order to secure it much more. Better to deposit it in a bank or better to keeo it in my house.
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The OP was registered on 2nd May 2018 and last active 4th May 2018 - today is 11th May 2018

As sad as this unfortunate event was it is time to let it go and stop posting here just as the OP has too.

Hi JollyGood, I’m sorry if my lack of response is out of the ordinary. I have been following along with each post.

To be quite honest, I’m utterly devastated by the events that have led me to this point. Never have I felt such a magnitude of anxiety and depression. I’m a good man, work hard, and have a generally positive worldview of humanity. This experience is truly testing that worldview and its cross with the functionality of Bitcoin. To have made mistakes so tragically unforgivable is a really hard thing to swallow. I don’t know how to find a steady breath and heartbeat again. I’m so freaking devastated with my mistake, I don’t know what to do. I can’t sleep. I can hardly eat. My mind is garbage at work. The world is really dark right now with my belief in humanity, at the margins, at an all time low.

If anyone knows the person who holds the keys, I’m begging from the bottom of my heart.

Please don’t wipe me out.
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May 11, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
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Yes, the situation is not very pleasant ; (
All the advice and reproaches you already sdes expressed. I ask you not to lose heart, please, on this your life is not finished. Make conclusions for yourself and live on your life. Good luck ...
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May 11, 2018, 08:58:04 PM
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Of course, it is very unpleasant to lose such a large amount of bitcoins. But I still think you're ignoring your safety. When it comes to your own money, you need to be more serious and a hundred times to recheck everything.

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May 11, 2018, 08:58:28 PM
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How can you make that mistake?
I've seen most of the people tell you to store bitcoins in an offline device and don't install any 3rd party into it and encrypt it with a password.
Sad to hear it though i hope he return the fraction of it.
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May 11, 2018, 09:13:29 PM
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Of course, it is very unpleasant to lose such a large amount of bitcoins. But I still think you're ignoring your safety. When it comes to your own money, you need to be more serious and a hundred times to recheck everything.


May I ask what you mean by ‘my safety’? If by safety, you’re referring to my Operational Security, I don’t know why I  lapsed in inputting my BTC seeds. Minutes before I had sent ONLY my previous seeds to a trusted 3rd party to spilt the forks, I was attempting to split. Why I input my primary BTC seeds, I cannot fathom.

As for storage, my thought 2 weeks ago, was to split up the locations, but due to the needs to explore my two Ledgers and multiple previous wallets for tax transactions, I hadn’t gotten around to it. Bad excuse, I know. That amount of coinage wasn’t all on one Ledger for long.

I’m sickened by the fact that I thought I knew how to handle data securely. I knew not to install questionable software. My judgement lapsed there as I was lulled into only d/l ing Apple App Store software ONLY. I know better, yet misstepped there.

I’ve also been reevaluating storage of seeds and their OpSec. Bank safety deposit box? Could get confiscated. Home safe? Could get stolen. Behind picture frame? Could get burned down. With a Lawyer, Family Memeber? Meh... Bury them with a treasure map? Seems like a recklass decision. Having ones Bitcoin distributed far and wide seems best... suggestions are welcome.

I do believe I understand the Security lapses AND the nuances involved with what led to them. It sickens me.
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May 11, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
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I dont understand. What did you do wrong? And how did you lose 13 BTC?
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May 11, 2018, 09:20:18 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

That is very saddening on your part. Having a good security of your account is really a necessity in terms of securing your wallet of your bitcoin. 13 BTc is also a large amount and losing them is really devastating. I believe you put all your security measures to protect them.

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May 11, 2018, 09:34:18 PM
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The OP was registered on 2nd May 2018 and last active 4th May 2018 - today is 11th May 2018

As sad as this unfortunate event was it is time to let it go and stop posting here just as the OP has too.

Hi JollyGood, I’m sorry if my lack of response is out of the ordinary. I have been following along with each post.

To be quite honest, I’m utterly devastated by the events that have led me to this point. Never have I felt such a magnitude of anxiety and depression. I’m a good man, work hard, and have a generally positive worldview of humanity. This experience is truly testing that worldview and its cross with the functionality of Bitcoin. To have made mistakes so tragically unforgivable is a really hard thing to swallow. I don’t know how to find a steady breath and heartbeat again. I’m so freaking devastated with my mistake, I don’t know what to do. I can’t sleep. I can hardly eat. My mind is garbage at work. The world is really dark right now with my belief in humanity, at the margins, at an all time low.

If anyone knows the person who holds the keys, I’m begging from the bottom of my heart.

Please don’t wipe me out.

Hey Billy, I'm guessing none of our condolences is going to make you feel any better. I know it's a long shot, but you could still try send messages to those wallets, especially where the majority of it is stashed. Make your plea, grovel, I don't know. Ask. Thieves have been known to return some of it in the past, hackers have a sort of complex which can sometimes be appealed to when acknowledged.

If it helps, try to think of the amount you actually put it... not so much the BTC value. Get some help, talk to someone. Get someone else you trust to monitor your wallet for any possible messages back. Take it easy now.

As for security suggestions and considerations, do them now if you have any other coins. But remember what DannyHamilton said in the very first response to your quote. Don't risk everything. Keep enough or convert enough back to fiat. And keep that in a bank as cash guaranteed and insured against theft. Bitcoin is still an experiment, to be treated as one.

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The OP was registered on 2nd May 2018 and last active 4th May 2018 - today is 11th May 2018

As sad as this unfortunate event was it is time to let it go and stop posting here just as the OP has too.

Hi JollyGood, I’m sorry if my lack of response is out of the ordinary. I have been following along with each post.

To be quite honest, I’m utterly devastated by the events that have led me to this point. Never have I felt such a magnitude of anxiety and depression. I’m a good man, work hard, and have a generally positive worldview of humanity. This experience is truly testing that worldview and its cross with the functionality of Bitcoin. To have made mistakes so tragically unforgivable is a really hard thing to swallow. I don’t know how to find a steady breath and heartbeat again. I’m so freaking devastated with my mistake, I don’t know what to do. I can’t sleep. I can hardly eat. My mind is garbage at work. The world is really dark right now with my belief in humanity, at the margins, at an all time low.

If anyone knows the person who holds the keys, I’m begging from the bottom of my heart.

Please don’t wipe me out.

Trust me our sympathies are with you. The odd person here has been somewhat rude or has made fun of your predicament but 99% feel sorry for your loss.

No one has wiped you out but apart from highlighting exactly what went wrong, what you did and how much you lost there is nothing that can be done here. If you exposed your private keys via malicious software you have to retrace your steps and let everyone know step by step what you did in the hope others can avoid doing the very same thing. That would be generous on your part as newbies would learn a lot.

About your actual loss, everyone comes to terms with losses in their own way and in their own time. I completely understand you when you say you are a hardworking person and right now you must be feeling sad, depressed and of course anxious. I hope you come to terms with it in due course. I suffered losses when a crypto exchange shut down and stole thousands of peoples coins, that was years ago. As a result of that I had a few years away from cryptos until Bitcoin started rising and I fortunately dug out my old laptop to find private keys for mostly useless crypto but along with that was one crypto that covered all my losses during the whole investments I made and coins I lost. Hopefully things will turn for the better for you.

Now one thing you have is the address where your stolen funds are sitting. The other thing you have is the name of the fork. You can contact their support team and ask them to look in to it and if they have that bitcoin address associated with an email address/name/location of an individual in their database as a customer. If so, you can write back here and we can advise what to do next based on what you come back with.

Most crypto thefts leave nothing to go on except an addresses where stolen funds were sent to. At least you have more to go on. Try to channel that sadness in to activity, try to focus at least on contacting the forked coin team and update us here.

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May 12, 2018, 12:00:10 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

Is it possible you used a fake Electrum wallet, as there are a lot of fake Electrum wallet, even on GitHub?
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/05/11/electrum-impostor-exit-scam/
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Here is the transaction.

Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Its weird because you gave the address '1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb' but this address never had a single transaction, how you lose 13 btc?
https://blockchain.info/address/1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb

And about ledger nano, i didn't understand how could it possible, because you need to approve the transaction physically pushing the button.

I didn't saying that you are a lier, im so sorry if this is all true but i think that have some missing information about it.

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May 12, 2018, 01:42:29 AM
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You do not care about it and you do not care about the btc you are holding so that I have such a thing as that and keep the btc I hold because it increases the amount of money you can get and can build a good business

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May 12, 2018, 02:37:36 AM
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I dont understand. What did you do wrong? And how did you lose 13 BTC?

He revealed his secret keys, while his ledger wallet still had BTC. Broadcasting that to public knowledge, or a corrupted/compromised electrum wallet in order to get forked BTC coins. Consequence, BTC got stolen from ledger wallet.

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May 12, 2018, 02:50:18 AM
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I’m already sick to my stomach.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

I really wanted to get myself reasonable enough to keep this in my head but sometimes there's just something in me that says invest in crypto as big as possible because the money is there. Perhaps this is sheer greed or the desire to just make some progress in life. Bitcoin even went as high as $19,000 and still I did not even withdrew a small fraction. I hope it will get back soon so that I will be making withdrawals. Just the same with the OP, I am saving a certain amount in crypto that would really bankrupt me totally if stolen.

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May 12, 2018, 02:57:17 AM
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I am very sad to read your writing. But do not despair this may be the beginning of your success. Be patient and start from the beginning again make this a very valuable experience. Do not be too harsh to think about losing it will not make your BTC back. You will be sick and stressed if you think about it.

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May 12, 2018, 03:02:14 AM
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If you, repeat again you think you can see them writing it. There's no point in risking your Bitcoin to get some dollar bills. You just lost a lot of Bitcoin because of your stupidity but did not claim a fork coin. But you can move and get back up. I know all your life savings.
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May 12, 2018, 03:52:08 AM
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Its weird because you gave the address '1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb' but this address never had a single transaction, how you lose 13 btc?
https://blockchain.info/address/1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb

And about ledger nano, i didn't understand how could it possible, because you need to approve the transaction physically pushing the button.

I didn't saying that you are a lier, im so sorry if this is all true but i think that have some missing information about it.




RE: 3Qm3TdbDDVPmcit2xfacJWi3hdBeLSZvTF

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Here is a message signed from 3Qm3TdbDDVPmcit2xfacJWi3hdBeLSZvTF 05/11/18
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
12i3fhgd6g1NWpWrENPwtNoGJvVnXn37nF
H1W59kb2pxP89JLr92mPyvQcaUhqy/VH4Vlb8oWosPItBXj4jzwAmdRChlelidRs6HP3llL2d4pENKkFcudVSUE=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----



RE: 3Jbn8xgo7WPF7oKNbo6qz6RiR2Eg7wHzzy

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Here is a message signed from 3Jbn8xgo7WPF7oKNbo6qz6RiR2Eg7wHzzy 05/11/18
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1ApfevnXnU79pW5WfJiJZeRsvbJbskKnTG
IJI4rgb96NbWzP4OE6t/YQY7x+n8nKEmVgmVhExyOr9YHrZOKgglx0VYqLg1uOAxuHcqBYJuSOQ2JxDvwQcawZ4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----



RE: 33f2FXUAjUaQyWbP8SBUQdGj6AbhF7zwvv

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Here is a message signed from 33f2FXUAjUaQyWbP8SBUQdGj6AbhF7zwvv 05/11/18
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1HjVQNa61mtaX1Yi1Gt3SfEgUeQNPmZxXj
IBnDFjoFE/k4Sk7oLC5+xTnKO6HXTkwzFg6upC9TYD4mdVYXPOgjbYgoLC+k7tPFqmysuQDe1tFM8otQs8+SJds=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Here are three messages detailing the input to the Ledger Wallet where the full amount was swept.  I'm sorry if I haven't been utterly clear, this hasn't been the greatest of experiences. Is there something odd with signing a SegWit address?


I can't sign a message from 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o where the stolen transaction went.

See for the actual transaction:
https://blockchain.info/address/3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
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May 12, 2018, 04:20:27 AM
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omg its realy? your luck is very bad , stay online you can earn again
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May 12, 2018, 04:33:38 AM
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I am really very concerned about what happened to you. Lots of Bitcoin that you have actually lost and taken by people who are not responsible. But I really can not help you and I think 13 Bitcoin you will not be able to return. Because the thief will not want to return it at all and you can not hold anyone accountable. Hopefully, you can be sincere and one day you will have more Bitcoin. I'm sorry to see it Cry
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May 12, 2018, 04:41:49 AM
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sorry friend, this is a decentralized world, where we can not protest anyone
it's very important to secure funds, but if something like this happens, what can we do?
I am also in haunted fear of hackers
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May 12, 2018, 05:10:23 AM
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We are sorry for your lost, we all know that hacker will never return your money just like that. You have no choice but to move on and start for the beginning. 13BTC is the very big amount but we cannot do anything about your lost, that's the lesson to learn that we should be careful on what we are doing.
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May 12, 2018, 05:41:46 AM
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how can you lose that much bitcoin? I think it's a mistake that happens from yourself because of carelessness and the possibility you too often install some software so you do not feel if your pearangkat embedded virus that can drain the contents of your wallet.
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May 12, 2018, 06:10:36 AM
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It's here now: https://blockchain.info/de/address/339DUjZue42TYnvdU91E8NrNaFff7yzJwo

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May 12, 2018, 09:28:30 AM
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 Smiley  Smiley  it's really sad that it's hard to work just get your 13 bitcoin .. for me very much the amount is missing you. so we use a wallet with a private key so as not to steal others we should keep whatever we have do not believe immediately and should definitely choose the wallet like ethereum for our bitcoin safety .and you really need to not believe in your acquaintances. so your bitcoin does not steal anymore you are working for a long time and just lose and steal others so always on your wallet that you want your bitcoin to contain.
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May 12, 2018, 09:35:32 AM
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That is why we should be aware of every websites and applications in our technology, because our hardwork will be swept away for nothing because of those scammers. I'm sorry for your lost.
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May 12, 2018, 09:42:59 AM
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That is why we should be aware of every websites and applications in our technology, because our hardwork will be swept away for nothing because of those scammers. I'm sorry for your lost.
It is really all around us, those people who doesn't want to spend their time earning instead they make use of other people's money to earn. It is really sad that those kind of people doesn't think about how far or how long he worked just to earn that amount it is totally devastating what happened to him. I just hope that there is someone who can help him get it back.
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May 12, 2018, 10:07:18 AM
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This is really sad, people are just bad and weaked they don't want to work and earn money instead stolling other people effort, Just pray it been return because this is much lost.
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May 12, 2018, 10:34:34 AM
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from where is been stolen i think u have shared your private key to someone that y its been stolen with private key or ur email has been hacked
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May 12, 2018, 01:16:09 PM
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omg its realy? your luck is very bad , stay online you can earn again
I feel sorry for his/her but only staying online could not make you earn bitcoins.
You need to provide your services, participate in bounty campaigns, mining or invest in bitcoin again to gain profits.
But even you do all of that, earning back 13 bitcoins now is pretty hard. Its not that simple to earn back.

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May 12, 2018, 06:21:51 PM
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Damn!! How can someone lose 13 BTC at once,that's actually gross and scary. I just hope you gather courage and fortitude to bear the loss because it is actually gone,little or nothing could be done about it. So sorry for you Embarrassed
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May 12, 2018, 06:54:25 PM
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Im in negative balance thanks to only bad trading. I realise, that crypto isnt for me. Im probably mentally weak to bear big loss. I will be around to end of year, i will expect pump like in 2017, hope i will get my money back and they i will abandon this ship. Too many dangers around.

Reading about your lost making me even more uncomfortable. This is terrible and terrible is that there is no way to return stolen coins.
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May 12, 2018, 07:07:47 PM
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Op could use the help of his country's security agencies to track down the crook.
Wonder if Chainalysis can help.  They could even take  30% if the Bitcoin is recovered.

Guess this is their Twitter page: https://mobile.twitter.com/chainalysis?lang=en

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May 12, 2018, 07:14:28 PM
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I guess I should not say any word which can work like Salt on the wounds, as I can see you are already sad all I can say is don't give up we know that it is the hardest situation for you because you have lost all of your life time saving and I don't know why people became so greedy about money that they take others money without even thinking what they will feel. I have no idea what do advise you right now all I can say is don't lose hope.
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May 12, 2018, 07:19:21 PM
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This is a very big mistake. Keep all your savings in bitcoin. Never spit it out their savings in one asset, distribute their. Otherwise one day you might lose everything like this guy. I hope that everything will be fine.
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May 12, 2018, 07:54:18 PM
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Its quite unfortunate that you have lost such a valuable amount of crypto, There is too much hard work put into the crypto business that losing that amount just like that is a nightmare, we must however also ask ourselves How much do we do to protect our wallets from the hackers, In this generation the hackers keep coming up with all sorts of manners to steal from us., put there are also safe measures to handle our wallets in a matter that protects us from them, we can use hardware wallets, or at least employ the use of meta mask.
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May 12, 2018, 08:00:11 PM
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Oh my god 13 bitcoin such a huge amount. I can understand how you feel. Once I lost only 0.40 eth from MEW and I was felling like you. Its like you lost your all hard earn money. I did not understand why people stole others money even they do not afraid of god. Never ever save your big amount in a single wallet always keep it in 3-4 places. Keys are the most important thing that should not be shared or exposed to anyone in any situation always use private window or incognito window to login your wallets. Atleast we can follow some simple security measure to avoid such situation to some extent.

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May 12, 2018, 08:40:58 PM
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These stories of lost BTC are becoming plenty and i suggest individuals take precautionary steps towards their transactions in order not to reveal their login details to any one or phishing sites.
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May 12, 2018, 10:48:53 PM
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13 BTC what a Bitcoin is not small money, to just loose and is very painful, you need to be trade extremely careful on unknown new exchange by importing private key into the system to be avoid next time mistake.
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May 12, 2018, 10:49:49 PM
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Be careful next time, so this error is not repeated. It is a pity to lose such a large amount of money.

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May 12, 2018, 10:53:22 PM
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Bitcoin is a crypto currency and well known as digital money, which many hackers are interesting into, instead for them to work, rather stilling and we need extremely careful in the sense that, we need to applied strong password.

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May 12, 2018, 10:54:21 PM
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With that huge amount of bitcoin, everyone should be aware and more cautious when it comes to the security of it.  We must have a reliable wallet from where we could keep them as well as not to be careless in leaving information of your access code on your computer or any device.
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I feel your pain, just take heart and never give up in your crypto activities. Just forget about it and move on, once there is life, there is hope. I wish you well.

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May 13, 2018, 12:34:37 AM
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Claiming forked coin is always risky, especially if you have huge amount of BTC, the best is move it somewhere else before doing anything

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May 13, 2018, 01:28:12 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.


Additional warning to all newbies to give your private key to anyone even brwosing suspicious site that requesting your key. Be aware that alot of scammer in the world of digital currencies. Think 1o times guys before you click. Also dont talk to strangers consider them as your enemy.

alway keep your wallet free and safe

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May 13, 2018, 01:42:22 AM
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I have already seen some more people losing their hard earned coins when just trying to get forked coins.Already a person lost his bitcoins when downloading a fake wallet instead of downloading Electrum wallet from the official website www.electrum.org.So nothing could protect any one indulging in cryptos except his self awareness. beware
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May 13, 2018, 01:45:14 AM
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Absolutely.That is the reason why I dont give my private key to anyone or anysite because I heard alot of news regarding those scammers who are spreading in the internet sites.
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May 13, 2018, 02:03:54 AM
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Oh my God, 13 BTC is really a huge money, when I started in crypto I never manage to earn at least 0.5 btc. I'm really sad of what happened to you I hope the culprit who stole it will have a conscience to return at least half of it. And I hope this will be a lesson to all people especially newbies to not share their private keys because it is very important.

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May 13, 2018, 02:29:32 AM
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Omg it is a really bad situation. In my country people spend their whole life to earn that money. This is the negative side of the crypto technology blockchain. Your whole investment can be trash with a click. I am really sorry for you bro Sad
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May 13, 2018, 03:02:00 AM
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Wow it is something very harmful. With 13 BTC can buy a house and anything you want you can buy. Having 5 bitcoin alone I already love what else 13 and what else it all disappears can go crazy.
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May 13, 2018, 03:04:55 AM
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OK.. I don't want to rub salt in to your wounds, but you ignored some basic security precautions. Anyway, now nothing can be done. Coins are gone for ever and the chances of recovering them are close to zero. I want you to ignore this episode and carry on.
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May 13, 2018, 03:14:27 AM
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13 BTC? Wow! This value is quite high.Hopefully this incident will not happen to someone anymore.Maybe his bitcoin wallet in quite not safe.We should understand the risks involved when we use this tools.All this could be avoided if informed decisions was made.
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May 13, 2018, 03:16:24 AM
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Well, my advise is that you should ignore this episode and carry on.Couns are gine for ever and the chances of recoveribg them are to clise to zero. Next time you shoukd be careful and this is also why i am afraid of spreading my  my private key to anybody.
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May 13, 2018, 03:48:24 AM
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13 BTC is not a small thing, I think it is a big loss. Everyone should be vigilant and extra careful in storing their bitcoin. I'm sorry to know what happened to you.
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May 13, 2018, 07:54:09 AM
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You should have consulted an expert before you did it but I'm still very saddened for your loss. Stop wasting your effort to retrieve any amount from the hackers because I'm sure they've done it many times so this could just be normal thing for them.
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May 13, 2018, 12:23:09 PM
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The Hacker mixed a small part and it ended at a yet unknown exchange: https://blockchain.info/de/address/1EYcUxa4AgQyiU3HvCv9tCjYttRPE9fC5V

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May 13, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
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I worked hard to collect Bitcoin. I lost my entire wallet 13 bitcoin by hurting me, this caused me a lot of pain, maybe I was not aware that it happened. But from now on I have been very careful.
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May 13, 2018, 03:36:01 PM
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Omg what a sad story. This must be a lesson for everyone, also to those who have their coins on a hardware wallet. It stops being safe if you leak your private keys.
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May 13, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
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I really don't know why people are investing and keeping all of their money in cryptocurrency. And why you kept it in only one wallet?  That's weird.
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May 13, 2018, 03:38:30 PM
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Really sad to hear that, really.. but hopefully you can learn from this.. never, NEVER show your private key to not trustable parts. Ask the question: " this worth the risk?" If you have a doubt then probably doesn't worth it.
There are so many scammers out there, and this is really sad..they should pay for bad actions but unluckily no one can do that. I was scammed too in past, not with this amount but i'm a victim too. Since that, i learn how the privacy is important in this world.
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May 13, 2018, 03:40:41 PM
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Huh Everyone should be very careful even with single little mistake one can loose whole investment.

I agree with you, hackers were very smart and they can even smell the people who has a huge profit not literally, but they can track dow your account and steal all the profita that you have in just a blink of an eye, and I guess that was very tragic to experience since all of s sudden you might be starving specially if you are just unemployed for now and leaning to this platform for every expenses that you are facing, be careful.
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May 13, 2018, 03:42:31 PM
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I was using the Electrum Wallets from Github. The BPrivate was from Github. I think the BDiamond was too. BTCD might have been from their site though. I’ll verify.
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May 13, 2018, 03:43:49 PM
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Every time reading such posts - I just go crazy. That said, I'm sympathetic to you. I hope at you everything will be good and you will be strong.
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May 13, 2018, 03:52:18 PM
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That is a very detrimental thing. 13 bitcoin can be to buy a house even you can buy anything you want if you have 13 bitcoin. I personally if having 13 bitcoin might be stressful. Grin
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May 13, 2018, 04:10:04 PM
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Of course this is sad, losing 13 btc or about $ 125k, luckily i never had bitcoin more than 5 btc because i always thought that bitcoin could disappear anytime so the safest way is by exchange to fiat and transfer to account.
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May 13, 2018, 04:15:06 PM
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Just imagine that one of those brothers. Okay, imagine that nothing has happened, if that happens, it will not be returned. Sometimes we have to accept that nothing can do it. But you can handle that brother.
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May 13, 2018, 04:24:21 PM
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This is a very common problem I have often heard of. It is sad that everything can be lost so easily when they keys will be known. I think this might be given solution in the future and bitcoin will ever be strong and very much secured in the future.

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May 13, 2018, 05:28:11 PM
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This is really sad news . You have our sympathy. We understand what you feel and what you are going through right now.

Thank you for sharing this with us as a warning even though some will really not understand. I am also hoping that the culprit will somehow give you something that you can use to start again. 

I think the best way to do is to move on, start again and be very careful next time.

A lesson learned.
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May 13, 2018, 05:33:31 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
That is very awful dude. I am very sorry for your loss. A bit of advise, it will not be returned to you. I know it and experienced it before but 13 BTC is a huge amount. If you have 1 BTC today, that's an achievement. But 13 BTC, I don't know what we can do about it.

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May 13, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
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Omg what a sad story. This must be a lesson for everyone, also to those who have their coins on a hardware wallet. It stops being safe if you leak your private keys.
Yes it better to always keep it within you coz its really hard to trust anybody if it involves money. So to everyone who can read this, i hope you keep your passwords and private keys in mind so that everything will go smoothly for you. If it involved larger wealth, you should take care of it more.
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May 13, 2018, 05:58:13 PM
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I dont understand. What did you do wrong? And how did you lose 13 BTC?
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May 13, 2018, 06:23:34 PM
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it is tragedy for you too.it may be very harmful for you but it may be useful for others. i also cash my currencies because i do not want to lost my currencies now
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May 13, 2018, 07:00:34 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

I'm very very sad of what happen to you. I am sorry for your loss, 13+ Bitcoin is very huge amount of money then suddenly gone immediately.
Let's pray that someday it will be given back to you. Just piece of advice, just don't expose anything information to public and hacker might do anything to get it and please install google authenticator so that it adds security for your protection specially for withdrawal transactions.
Hopefully, this experience will be a reminder to all of us that we need to be really careful and be cautious before we do anything or expose our wallets to any site. I hope that there will be additional security features of wallet to avoid this theft from hackers who don't live fairly and don't have conscience to steal from others. God knows who you are.
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May 14, 2018, 01:23:24 PM
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I can not even imagine how a person can now earn from 0 13 bitcoins. It will be very difficult, I do not even know how to give advice.
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May 14, 2018, 01:28:02 PM
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I can not even imagine how a person can now earn from 0 13 bitcoins. It will be very difficult, I do not even know how to give advice.

yes it is possible to earn 13 btc or more as long as you are a hardworking person. Infact 13btc is still a verry small amount. Other people like whales do have over 100 to 1000 bitcoins on their stash and gues what? They still continue to earn and earn more .

it is tragedy for you too.it may be very harmful for you but it may be useful for others. i also cash my currencies because i do not want to lost my currencies now

Were on the same boat.  I do also cash out my coins immediately as long as i recieve something on my wallet because im am affraid to loose it and also im afraid from the dangers of volatility.


@op , that was really bad . I suggest try to be more careful nextime on what you do in order to avoid further problems.
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May 14, 2018, 01:37:32 PM
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Too bad that it happened to you, it may look like you're not the one who's responsible for that but i think somehow it is your fault that you kept big amount in your account that it became an eye opener to hacked by anyone. I  really feel sorry for what happened to you. Just forget about it and move on and try to get some advice.

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May 14, 2018, 01:45:05 PM
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That's really sad to know that you lost such a huge amount. 13 BTC[ is a big number. Although I haven't lost as much as you, but I had also lost 4 Bitcoins when a reputed online exchange ran away with all the money. I was left befuddled and in shock. After that I made a pledge not to store private keys anywhere except a paper wallet.
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May 14, 2018, 01:48:35 PM
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Its really a bad thing to Put all that BTC at one wallet, its really risky and thus paying the price is really devastating. I dont know how you'll move forward from that kind of experience but, just think of what you have left and make that your starting point again. Really sorry for the lost of that 13BTC and if some cases that you'll get it back then that's  nice thing to hear But if not, then keep moving forward.

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Here is the transaction.

Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Its weird because you gave the address '1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb' but this address never had a single transaction, how you lose 13 btc?
https://blockchain.info/address/1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb

And about ledger nano, i didn't understand how could it possible, because you need to approve the transaction physically pushing the button.

I didn't saying that you are a lier, im so sorry if this is all true but i think that have some missing information about it.



Man do you know that an attacker can fully recreate a Ledger from a backup 24-word list? And that actually giving away one private key is as good as giving away all private keys to the attacker? So if he did give away his 24-word backup, or did give away one private key, it is enough that an attacker can recreate his ledger and press a button on his recreated ledger.

So do not call that man a lier, he is a poor man who made a (very costly) mistake.
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May 14, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
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Almost every month we hear story like this, people being scammed and left empty handed. thanks by posting this we can get some idea for future transaction we don't do what you have done.
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May 14, 2018, 03:34:06 PM
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very deep condolence for you. if i were you, maybe i would end up like you too.
i hope the culprit of your wallet change their heart because they see you in this forum.



I think you have a Trojan on your computer or download a wallet fake that has a backdoor that allows hackers to get your key. the money lost somehow, calm, drinking alcohol or try to sleep. the faster you deal with, the good for your health. why you save all saving your life in BTC? I really don't understand. Unfortunately the only thing you can do now is analyze your actions step-by-step to know which software compromised.
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May 15, 2018, 01:31:05 AM
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This made me feel sick, hope you recover soon. Get back on your feet as fast as you can and move on.
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May 15, 2018, 02:05:30 AM
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That's a very huge loss. This story scares me quite a bit actually because a few days ago I had experienced this, even though the numbers are not as big as this. From this I got lesson, never put too much coins on 1 wallet. Now I'm have many wallet to save my coin.
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May 15, 2018, 02:13:55 AM
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 Sad sorry to hear that... hope you're able to keep you hope high despite what happen and still believe...learning from your experience I'm pretty sure you know now how to secure your wallet with enough btc on it...keep trying and you still have a lot of time making up your loss you will gain profit in the coming days.

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May 15, 2018, 02:25:26 AM
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Too bad that it happened to you, it may look like you're not the one who's responsible for that but i think somehow it is your fault that you kept big amount in your account that it became an eye opener to hacked by anyone. I  really feel sorry for what happened to you. Just forget about it and move on and try to get some advice.
I feel bad for you for experiencing that kind of devastating event. My advice for you is just live the kind of life you want and take that as an inspiration don't feel down and just rise up. Everything will be alright you just have to keep moving. Your btc will come back to you higher than before.
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May 15, 2018, 02:26:00 AM
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This is really sad, I feel for you. I had a similar experience in the last November, sent a big amount of lumen to my another wallet, it didn't come, i was really worried, contacted bittrex, they said I sent it to wrong address, however after 7 days i figured out i sent this to my friend's wallet, i called him and he said yes and sent me back. I was lucky it was my friend.

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REALLY, thank you all... Never have I exhibited such knowingly risky behavior and been burned so hard. I’m normally a very risk averse person. Yet in this case, I disregarded my better judgement as if I was blinded by greed. Fascinating to question my personal headspace and why I made the decisions that I did. I just don’t fucking get it. Anyway, thanks for the kind words.
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What a lesson! Poor you!  I will take some solution after reading this. I do not trust anyone anymore
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REALLY, thank you all... Never have I exhibited such knowingly risky behavior and been burned so hard. I’m normally a very risk averse person. Yet in this case, I disregarded my better judgement as if I was blinded by greed. Fascinating to question my personal headspace and why I made the decisions that I did. I just don’t fucking get it. Anyway, thanks for the kind words.

Dude, face it and let's it go. Don't expect the hacker will return what he stole from you. You bought a lesson, though it is so expensive.
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May 15, 2018, 02:53:37 AM
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Very sad and stifling chest, hopefully you can be patient and be a lesson to be more careful in maintaining btc. what has happened is a lesson because anyone will be able to experience the same thing as you experience.
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May 15, 2018, 03:04:43 AM
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Losing a lot of Bitcoin because of your stupidity but not claiming fork coins. But you can move and get back up. You know all your life savings. Especially one of the new forks like diamond. You are quite safe getting BCH and BTG, but always thinking about it. Do you need 1000 $ more at a cost of 10k? Can you give more details of OP.
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In due time, yes.

Beware to all, don’t download closed source wallets to collect your forks(snapshot in the last 6 months) in the mean time.

Don’t input your CURRENT BTC seeds into a forked wallet.

Don’t send BTC to your old seeds after you’ve input them a wallet.

So many rules. So easy to break them. So harsh the consequences.

Bitmex 100x sounds like a plan to recover, no? /sarcasm/
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May 15, 2018, 03:31:17 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.



I think that is the biggest mistake that you made to lost your entire wallet that's have a 13 bitcoin. I don't know how you lost it but I think you're regreting it now but how can possibly that you lost your wallet if it is an online wallet? 
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May 15, 2018, 03:37:15 AM
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Do not be sad
This is a lesson learned, learn from mistakes you have made.
Be careful in every case, every situation.
There are so many scams, in various forms.
You should not keep too much BTC but diversify your investment,
This is my advice and hope you do not be sad about it,

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May 15, 2018, 03:41:22 AM
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Wow, such a high amount. I would not want to imagine how it would be to me to lose that huge amount.. Wow, more than one hundred thousand dollars, that is more money that what a lot of people can imagine in here.

someone else had been posting on my account for over a year; Every post from January 10 2017 to June 18 2018 is NOT ME
Whoever this person was that got access to my account, felt the need to shill something called "bidium" in my signature
very surreal. is this normal? the internet is full of crooks... watch out
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May 15, 2018, 04:55:49 AM
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I have already seen some more people losing their hard earned coins when just trying to get forked coins. Already a person lost his bitcoins when downloading a fake wallet instead of downloading Electrum wallet from the official. So nothing could protect any one indulging in cryptos except his self awareness.
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May 15, 2018, 05:35:42 AM
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I've seen more people lose their hard-earned coins. Someone has lost the bitcoin when downloading a fake wallet instead of downloading the Electrum wallet from the official www.electrum website. org.
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May 15, 2018, 05:49:06 AM
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If you access your forked coins, it undermines your privacy. Andreas Antonopoulos discussed this a youtube video. Because you have to expose your mnemonic, passphrase, or privkeys, it is recommended to send your bitcoin to another wallet. Let's say you have bitcoin in 10 address. Those 10 will be used as inputs in one transaction indicating that the all those addresses have 1 owner. To go around this obstacle, it is best to send coins in each address individually (and that will mean you would have to pay more fees). So it is best to not touch your forked coins. Besides, most of them are either scams or worthless.

Thanks for reading my post.
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It’s just really hard to think my financial freedom from this whole fucking rigged system is gone.

It seems, unethical if bitcoin's said to be a cheating system because the bitcoin system works on its own without any interference from third parties including "Satoshi Nakamoto" itself as the creator of bitcoin.

I hope there is the best way after the occurrence of this case and you can return do the activity as usual and can produce more than yesterday.
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May 15, 2018, 06:23:30 AM
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With that huge amount of bitcoin, everyone should be aware and more cautious when it comes to the security of it.  We must have a reliable wallet from where we could keep them as well as not to be careless in leaving information of your access code on your computer or any device.
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May 15, 2018, 06:29:14 AM
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This caution should have been realized much earlier, on the very first day you thought of buying your first Bitcoin. Right now, you are regretting your wrong moves. There will be lessons learned of course but they came very costly on you. I hope you are not the only one that will learn lessons from such disappointing experience. I and all those who have came across your OP should also take in some nice lessons.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
Oh! This would be one of the worst nightmare for you mate, I even cry if ever I lose a small amount how much more with this big amount ,I maybe cry for a year if this happen to me anyway thanks for the warning hope it will be a lesson for you and for everbody, keep your password safe always and never leave it with out logging out in any transactions we will made.
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I’m already sick to my stomach.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.
Yes, I totally agree with you, sir. I don't get it - he has 13 bitcoin but it also seems like he doesn't have anything else? I would not recommend anyone to put 90% of his wealth in crypto, not at all. So if you can afford 13 btc, it would always be smart to keep 3 bitcoins and the rest should be cashed out and placed in a safe such as banks. My sincere condolences to the thread starter.
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May 15, 2018, 07:03:44 AM
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Sorry for the loss buddy, I hope someone returns your bitcoins and all other coins but I highly doubt it because these hackers are just merciless. Lesson learned for you not to expose anything about your wallet and your assets inside. Good luck and I hope you comeback.

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May 15, 2018, 07:10:26 AM
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Very deterrent example for losing your richness during one moment. I hope You will get your crypto back. Maybe someone will find the solution. If not I'm very sorry for your terrible situation, man.
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May 15, 2018, 07:22:07 AM
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oh that's a big amount of bitcoin you have lost, hackers these days are no mercy. If I lost hundreds of bitcoin I don't know what will happen to me. Better do not put all your bitcoins in one wallet.
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May 15, 2018, 07:29:58 AM
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All these forks were invented to steal the original BTC.
Greed always spoils everything.
It is better to have 13 BTC than some forks, which all turned out to be fraudulent coins.

Hello! Voluntary donations that will go towards the development of my coin.
34bwEhH3GMx6swYXt2NBfFbYGkdTcaWtXz....BTC

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One lesson if using a hardware wallet is to only use software approved by the hardware wallet manufacturer.
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May 15, 2018, 05:26:33 PM
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I feel your pain. Sad This just underscores, how important it is what one does with one's wallet and private keys. If a mistake happens, or you get phished/robbed, you are basically on your own. There is no worldwide Btc police, who can help you to get your coin back.
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May 15, 2018, 05:42:02 PM
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I really feel bad for this guy. This should serve as a warning and an example for all newbies. This is a risky place. Research everything you don't know what you are going into. Invest what you can only lose. Investing your whole fortune to bitcoin is insane. Invest a decent amount and try to grow your investments. And you won't get rich in one try. Just be wise and read everything before you do something. Be safe everyone.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

This is a very unfortunate and tragic. I wish that you will better soon and don't give up at bitcoin yet. May be we cannot bring back what is lost but we can still start again. I hope that this story will serves a lesson for everyone. I am really sorry for you and I will pray for you and your account.

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May 15, 2018, 05:53:19 PM
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13 BTC thats a whole lot am really sorry for your loss human most times can be so heartless am really sorry for your loss stay calm i hope and pray you recover your loss
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May 15, 2018, 06:02:37 PM
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13 bitcoin was quite a lot, if I lost that way I might have been stressed out. It is very sad to lose almost all of your savings from your hard work and your efforts so far in vain. But this could be a lesson for those of us who use bitcoin, to have to keep tight with our bitcoin and always keep it safe.  Smiley
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Really you have loss your 13 bitcoin ? I am so shock to hear about your 13 bitcoin loss, its high and many value of bitcoin price and million USD you have loss your money. Next time you have very carefully to take care your bitcoin balance and never to try to show your data of your nano wallet for the other. Most important you have hidden your bitcoin balance to take care you will less of hecker check of your identity.
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May 15, 2018, 06:14:04 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
You don't want to be blamed anymore, so why did you put up your tale here for us to read and make judgement then? To pity you and give out tips? Sit up man, that may not happen here. You caused your woe to yourself. It is called greed. You already had 13btc worth over $100,000 and you were busy looking for peanuts slipt coins.
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omg!!13 btc!!this is really sad and i am really shocked but why u didnt save your private key??
plz be careful next time bcz private key is important than nyour crypto Smiley
i would die if i lost btc and u will regret about 13 btc in 2019 bcvz btc will touch 50k that time

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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

I hope everyone take this a lesson for us. I am sorry for this loss and I don't how much pain you're experiencing right now but I hope you can make it back here. Cryptomarket will always welcome everyone to start all over again. And to prevent this to happen again, I hope everyone will be more careful to their accounts. And remember, if is too good to be true, think again.
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May 15, 2018, 08:55:04 PM
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Bitcoin activity is unfortunately very strongly associated with failures. You should not be upset, but just need to draw conclusions and develop further. You'll still get your benefits.

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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

I tell you what I feel your pain.  So I will see if I can do something to help out.  Give me a minute or two.

I am sending a rental to nicehash I will post it up here I will be renting solo.  If I get lucky you will get lucky.

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May 15, 2018, 09:11:29 PM
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Such a great loss is very serious but I beg you not to be upset. Money is not the most important thing, just for the future, know how to act is not necessary, continue to develop in the field of crypto-currencies and improve your result.
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Thanks. Worst day of my life. No idea what I’m going to do.

I’m praying the culprits have half a heart to return some of it...

Please, I’m begging you, whoever you are.
I think mate it will never comes back what you have lost now,someone stolen it from.you and i think he/she did it with plan and thats is what is the job he/shes having now,its so scarry for us who stive hard for everything then in an instant it will all be gone,so please do some new ways on the company who made us wallets that nobody can steal all our efforts again.
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May 16, 2018, 12:54:11 AM
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@ op

this is the rental on nice-hash

S   #1963886      this is the order number


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Estimated time
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it is for solo mining I hit the block I will toss you coins

since I spent 0.005 btc my odds to hit are small

it is for LTC so there are 25 ltc in a block

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May 16, 2018, 02:24:35 AM
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We must know how to protect our property safely. Security passwords must be set so that no one can break into your account. In case you lose your wallet and lose 13 BTC, you have to take responsibility. No one can take responsibility for you. Let's learn how to keep your wallet safe.
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May 16, 2018, 02:34:49 AM
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This a lesson learned to everyone do not store much money in just one address, maybe we should split our funds into multiple address and do some safety measure in transfering funds like creating a bridge account.
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May 16, 2018, 02:39:18 AM
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@ op

this is the rental on nice-hash

S   #1963886      this is the order number


0.7638   0.01   11   0.0116
0.10
Remaining
0.00055772 BTC
Estimated time
~0d 1h 30m

it is for solo mining I hit the block I will toss you coins

since I spent 0.005 btc my odds to hit are small

it is for LTC so there are 25 ltc in a block


While I very much appreciate the gesture, please keep the coins...

My worldview keeps me from accepting gifts like that, as I still have a roof over my head, food to eat, and the will to work. I have a bit of a complex in knowing I earned and bought every coin I had. Eventually I suspect I’ll begin building again and there’s something to that pride of perspective, good or bad.

Thank you though!
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May 16, 2018, 02:50:27 AM
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There is no point in risking your BTC to get a few branched coins. Especially one of the new forks such as diamonds, gods and so on.
You are quite safe getting BCH and BTG, but always thinking about it.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

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@ op

this is the rental on nice-hash

S   #1963886      this is the order number


0.7638   0.01   11   0.0116
0.10
Remaining
0.00055772 BTC
Estimated time
~0d 1h 30m

it is for solo mining I hit the block I will toss you coins

since I spent 0.005 btc my odds to hit are small

it is for LTC so there are 25 ltc in a block


While I very much appreciate the gesture, please keep the coins...

My worldview keeps me from accepting gifts like that, as I still have a roof over my head, food to eat, and the will to work. I have a bit of a complex in knowing I earned and bought every coin I had. Eventually I suspect I’ll begin building again and there’s something to that pride of perspective, good or bad.

Thank you though!


Okay I cancelled the order.

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May 16, 2018, 04:16:08 AM
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This is a very common problem I have often heard of. It is sad that everything can be lost so easily when they keys will be known. I think this might be given solution in the future and bitcoin will ever be strong and very much secured in the future.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
I had a stomach ache reading it. anyone please return the savings. I have a question for op "why did you expose your nano ledger with the balance in it?" then is it possible someone can steal it from there? Huh
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May 16, 2018, 04:29:23 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

lol....... well thats going to be the future of bitcoin anyway, sooner or later more and more bitcoin will end up in unobtainable wallets till the entire system wont be used anymore and gets dropped.
117000 usd,
now good luck with your health

if you believe the value is zero

why are you here?
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May 16, 2018, 06:29:28 AM
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Losing an entire wallet with 13 BTC is just like a nightmare that came true. Well there are a lot of thing that maybe the cause of losing your wallet. So we must always remember to take a good care of choosing and using wallet. Because we all know that now a days there are a lot of wallets that arise and offering good benefits. Losing 13 BTC will surely may affect a lot with your emotional aspect so a piece of advice, don’t think too much and always speak to others because losing that big amount may lead to depression and worst comes to worst to suicide. 
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May 16, 2018, 09:29:44 AM
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I had a stomach ache reading it. anyone please return the savings. I have a question for op "why did you expose your nano ledger with the balance in it?" then is it possible someone can steal it from there? Huh
I thought the Nano Ledger is said to be a secured offline wallet. So what could have happened and the bitcoin was able to be stolen? I do not understand the part of saying 'exposing his balance in it' Can anyone explain?
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May 16, 2018, 10:07:46 AM
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It is a pity to lose such a large amount of money. Sad
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May 16, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
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So i guess we cannot help you its your fault to lost your entire wallet because many hacker right now steal your BTC account and etc.. on your computer if you need to secure your account like authenticator they cannot hack your account it look like 2nd password and they need to know. you need to download it in playstore and install it and always look your URL box if the website is secure or not. and you need to know that when you lost your entire wallet you cannot get back your BTC and you need to creat another wallet.
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May 16, 2018, 11:13:28 AM
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I guess we can't help you to fix this problem you've face now, it so sad to hear and know that news. If i will experienced that too i really don't know what i felt knowing that my bitcoin was lost. But remember every mistake gives us a lesson learn so if you mistaken then you need toavoid that way to didn't be happens again.

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May 16, 2018, 11:14:32 AM
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for me this could be a lesson to everyone,be careful and always keep your bicoins and other coins secured because in a one flash all what you have ,it might be gone. Digital bank is not secured,a lot of thief and scammers arround,Lots of Bitcoin that you have actually lost and taken by people who are not responsible. But I really can not help you and I think 13 Bitcoin you will not be able to return. Because the thief will not want to return it at all.
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May 16, 2018, 12:15:46 PM
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We must know how to protect our property safely and lesson learned to everyone do not store much money in just one address. This is warning to everyone don't expose your private key or other key to acces your wallet because that amouth waste hacked never back to you.
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May 16, 2018, 01:00:11 PM
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Sorry for your loss man start making another money:http://airdrop.easyoption.io/#qd2f5lxclo
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May 16, 2018, 01:09:08 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

I am very sad to hear that, With that amount of btc that you lost I feel that you are so dissapointed right now, and blaming yourself on why did you do that. But I think every thing happens for a reason and a bigger things will happen to you. Just continue to do thingz.  and it will be rewarded.
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May 16, 2018, 01:30:21 PM
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wow just wow i know it hurt so much..
and the culprit think he or she hit the jackpot

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May 17, 2018, 03:32:05 AM
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So sorry for your loss. I am feeling with you about 1 year ago i lost 1 BTC because an hacker. I hope you can rise again from your failures and can learn from your mistakes.
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May 17, 2018, 11:15:21 AM
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I am sorry for what hapeden to you. And I strongly advice everyone who has just joined the bitcoin community to research before getting to the market and make sure you are aware of the risks you are about to take.

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May 17, 2018, 12:13:13 PM
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By the way, if that transaction were created & signed on a completely air-gapped (offline) computer (in other words, if backup wordlist private information were "leaked" on an air-gapped computer too) and then in a raw form copied onto an USB stick and then moved onto an online computer and broadcasted using the webpage broadcaster, would you guys consider this scheme safe?

I am partly asking beacuse I am entertaining a thought of attempting such a scheme myself with BitcoinX, without moving my Bitcoins away... risky, I know, but if executed without errors would it be safe?
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May 17, 2018, 12:40:44 PM
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The hacker probably cried and jumped for joy. This amount is not everyone can steal. I just did not understand, if your papers were stored on Ledger, then how they were stolen? Did the hacker recognize the Seed-phrase?
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May 17, 2018, 12:50:27 PM
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Holy..
Tough luck man, that's a lot of money. Sorry for your loss.
I will never understand why people hold all of their money in one wallet.
That's just not smart..
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I am sorry to hear this. In fact, there are a lot of hackers taking money so you need to be careful and start over.
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May 17, 2018, 03:13:39 PM
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Its as ad that that happened , Bitcoin is such a valuable coin that losing even one hurts deeply losing coins over careless ness however is something that we must take blame for, Your private key is meant only for your eyes,  no one else, you share it with anyone then get ready to lose,

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Well we can't do nothing about that, be careful next time.
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May 17, 2018, 03:49:49 PM
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It is really devastating,  but take heart, once there is life there is hope. You never know things can turn around again and you can make it again. I lost some big money to internet scammers sometime. There one simple but important lesson that I learnt- DO NOT KEEP ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET!. Same applies to investment. Ensure there is backup. Any system can fail you. Please remain healthy and plan ahead.

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regrettable, just one more lesson, to be more careful, to whatever may happen and what else, to move on ...
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May 17, 2018, 04:08:25 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.


I am also a concern over the incident, OMG 13 BTC is lost, I never imagine if it happened to me, I hope it's not, thank you for sharing your experience to us, so we have to more carefully control our purse, For you i dont know what i want to say  Cry Cry Cry friend ,but in order to be patient in the face of these problems, I pray that you get better again after this , spiriit friend
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May 17, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
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Of course, it is very unpleasant to lose such a large amount of bitcoins. But I still think you're ignoring your safety. When it comes to your own money, you need to be more serious and a hundred times to recheck everything.
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13 btc is so a very high amount
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May 17, 2018, 04:36:27 PM
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It's very sad because 13 btc is really big money, you should try to get access to your wallet at any way, money is not the main stuff but your health is , hope you will find your money.

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I am so sorry this happened. That is really devastating. I appreciate your willingness to use your hard experience as a way to educate others. Sometime when you're ready, perhaps you can post an article about what went wrong (and how you'd do it differently) on Steemit.com? Who knows? You might be able to recover some of the loss through upvotes?

Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
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May 17, 2018, 05:08:18 PM
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Sorry for your lost. 13+btc is very big amount. I can build my own house or build up my own business in that amount. This another advice and a reminder to all always be careful on you wallets and accounts to prevent lost and scam. And also dont leave a very big amount of btc on your wallets, transfer it to your saving to be secure.

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Without any single doubt, the hacked BTC is being monitored by its hacker. For the meantime he will not withdraw it. Then after a few years of holding He might sell it, or transfer it to another wallet.

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May 18, 2018, 10:40:05 AM
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I simply would never keep my whole capital in the bitcoin value only because this is way too risky. At this point all you can do after such loss is properly analyze what was wrong and which software actually let you down.

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May 18, 2018, 10:44:59 AM
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Exposing your private keys to other wallets while using ledger nano s is a big risk, especially for those trash forks that really does not worth to do it. 13 btc is huge amount  Embarrassed
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I'm really really sorry for your loss, 13BTC is a very big amount. hope you can let it go and face the future as usual again.
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I've seen more people lose their hard-earned coins. Someone has lost the bitcoin when downloading a fake wallet instead of downloading the Electrum wallet from the official www.electrum website. org.
The main thing is not to thirst and then everything you do will begin to bear fruit. There are a lot of mistakes that people make, as well as there are rules that will help to avoid it. Just next time take a little time and look for information before you take this case
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You've seen more people lose their hard-earned coins when just trying to get a forked coin. Someone has lost his Bitcoin when downloading a fake wallet instead of downloading the Electrum wallet from the official www.electrum website. Any precautions to claim free coins. For criminals, you do not know, and you're sure they will not return them to you again.
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May 19, 2018, 11:03:55 PM
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This is really sad, I feel for you. I had a similar experience in the last November, sent a big amount of lumen to my another wallet, it didn't come, i was really worried, contacted bittrex, they said I sent it to wrong address, however after 7 days i figured out i sent this to my friend's wallet, i called him and he said yes and sent me back. I was lucky it was my friend.
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This is a very bad news, so sorry for that I really feel for you but, let me assure you that life goes on. Don't be discouraged let this challenges make you stronger instead of regreting and thinking all days take it as a lesson and work hard for the best is yet to come take heart and always be careful.
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sorry to hear that my friend, but there are some peoples facing same problem like you.
they are now searching a way to recover the wallet file but not find any way.
but on your case, you lose your seed because you exposed it.

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Of course, it is very unpleasant to lose such a large amount of bitcoins. But I still think you're ignoring your safety. When it comes to your own money, you need to be more serious and a hundred times to recheck everything.
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Sorry for your loss next time dont keep your bitcoins in one singular wallet and using forked coins.
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
I feel sorry for what have happened to you but I think you learned a lesson for this bad experience. At least you learn that you must not exposed you personal information online because things might happen.  Also,  I think you must not keep that big money to just 1 wallet.  That is 13 btc, if you keep it in different wallet then a small fraction of money will be the only thing that will gone.
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May 20, 2018, 06:00:11 AM
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13 BTC to me is a huge amount and it may take a very long time to collect it. Oh god, why did it happen to you friend? Stay patient okey, god is always with you

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an enormous disaster, saddened by your loss of 13 BTC. thank you for the information and this has become a valuable lesson for me in keeping my bitcoin assets in order not to repeat the incident that happened to you
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Well few months ago my online wallet got hacked and i lost 0.5 btc i know its low amount of bitcoin but its about the security of your wallet. How secure you are, Is you bitcoin is safe hand?
Well after getting hacked i learn from it,  i move to hardware wallets. Its like i am the own guard of my all bitcoins,  i don't need any internet connection to access my coin just for hardware wallet. After that day i stopped using online wallets they can hacked easily better to move coins in Physical wallets.
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Well few months ago my online wallet got hacked and i lost 0.5 btc i know its low amount of bitcoin but its about the security of your wallet. How secure you are, Is you bitcoin is safe hand?
Well after getting hacked i learn from it,  i move to hardware wallets. Its like i am the own guard of my all bitcoins,  i don't need any internet connection to access my coin just for hardware wallet. After that day i stopped using online wallets they can hacked easily better to move coins in Physical wallets.

hardware wallets are safer than an online wallet but there is still a risk that it can be damage or shocked when dropped or if you didnt use carefully and as a result its data can also be affected.

hardware wallets are not for everyone because hardware wallets are too costy , thats why i would still stick to the traditional online wallet .

Online wallets do still have a good security as long as you are careful enough to login or when inputting your private keys and passwords .
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I am really sorry to hear that. I cant imagine how much pain you are going through right now. But life is all about ups and down. Don't loose hope, maybe something bigger is waiting for you in the future. Still its 13 bitcoin !!! I dont know what will i do if i lost them all. Anyway i will pray for you and hope you can overcome with this situation.
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I have already expressed my opinion on this post. But the ultimate lesson to be drawn is that you should never try to get any forked coin without having first moved your coins somewhere else. No matter what makes you think you are safe. Full stop.
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May 20, 2018, 09:14:06 PM
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I’m already sick to my stomach.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.
Even though i am a strong advocate of holding your bitcoins, I think there are times that when you realize that you have made a lot of profit, you should just go ahead and sell and enjoy your profits you have accrued.

 
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May 20, 2018, 09:29:06 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

Unfortunately, what has been done cannot be undone. All we can do is to try again and hope for the best. Tragic and harsh but that is the truth. You might not yet feel good right now but I hope you won't give up to investing here yet. There is still room for you in this industry. I also hope that everyone can learn from this loss. I wished everyone will be more careful in dealing with this transactions.

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May 21, 2018, 02:17:06 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

it is just sad. if i was facing the same problem with you, i would never involved it cryptocurrency again.
this will become a lesson for us, never exposed seed or key of your wallet. if you want to expose it, maybe you should move it to web wallet first.

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May 21, 2018, 02:29:01 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
I think you were wrong in splitting your BTC. That action has led to the attention of hackers. Every transaction will bring attention to them and you need to be careful next time.
In addition, you should not hold too many Bitcoins in a wallet. Divide it into several wallets or you should only hold the amount of $ 20k or less. It is safe to hackers. condolence with you. Cry

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May 21, 2018, 03:05:51 AM
Last edit: May 21, 2018, 08:53:41 AM by squallw
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Man do you know that an attacker can fully recreate a Ledger from a backup 24-word list? And that actually giving away one private key is as good as giving away all private keys to the attacker? So if he did give away his 24-word backup, or did give away one private key, it is enough that an attacker can recreate his ledger and press a button on his recreated ledger.

So do not call that man a lier, he is a poor man who made a (very costly) mistake.

Do you know that the owner can not have acess to the private key itself? As i know it is impossible to extract private keys from a hardware wallets for safety.
The owner has the seed, but everyone know that you should never give it to anyone.

I didn't said that OP is lier, read again.
But it not clear for me, how he compromised his security.
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May 21, 2018, 03:49:38 AM
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I'm sorry for your lose, this could be a tough lesson that can be learn also to anyone of us, we just be very careful to store our holding, even if you know that it is secure, still don't be sure because anything can be stolen in the internet.
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May 21, 2018, 04:09:39 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

Most users do not want to be concerned about security, we should never think that bitcoin is always safe, you do not own the case as it has happened a lot and the lesson of this is activating all the security features.

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May 21, 2018, 06:19:12 AM
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We must know how to protect our property safely and lesson learned to everyone do not store much money in just one address. This is warning to everyone don't expose your private key or other key to access your wallet because that amount waste hacked never back to you.
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May 21, 2018, 06:27:10 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
this is really sad i hope other people will learn from this because its not really good to keep large amount in one wallet. you must split it in diffirent wallet you can also keep small amount in different exchange. so if the wallet or exchange is gone that will only a small lose ..





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May 21, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
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It is very devastating, when you lose 13 BTC. I think that we need to be more careful holding our coins. As hackers creating trouble all over the world, they have stolen a lot of money over the past few years and they would continue to do so in future too.

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May 21, 2018, 07:11:36 AM
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I feel sorry for you. The good thing on crypto is, nobody can steal or take your money, if your private keys are really secret. The bad thing on crypto is, if someone stole your keys or if you lost your keys.

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May 21, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
Don't expect that they will give you even a fracyion of it because humans are holistic in nature. Better to forget your problem and move on so that you can have more opportunities that will come on your way. Anyway, I am truly sorry for the loss but just think of it as a minor setback for a major comeback.
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May 21, 2018, 11:34:44 AM
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Well very surprised to read your story if you lose 13 BTC and i am very concerned about what you experince. We must continue to be careful with what we have now. Many people want to instantly steal people’s possessions.

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May 21, 2018, 11:42:00 AM
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Its unfortunate that we repeat the same mistakes over and over again which leads to loss making, we cant do much about your loss but if it was your fault then don't cry, the amount lost is way too high to be lost out of carelessness.
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May 21, 2018, 06:41:42 PM
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I'm really really sorry for your loss, 13BTC is a very big amount. hope you can let it go and face the future as usual again.

How could this happen? very sad. You have lost 13 btc in an instant. Whoever takes it, he will not want to return it. It will be a lesson for all of us to always be careful. It's important to keep your password and private key in crypto coins. Whatever it is, it is information that should not be shared with anyone.
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May 21, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

There been a lot unfortunate stories like this so I hope that everyone (me included) have learned something about this. Trust is such a big word in this industry and its meaning has been overextended so many times. Whether it is just simple trust in investing or trusting in mining bitcoins, you should know best where you put that trust on.
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May 21, 2018, 07:03:37 PM
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i m  sorry my dear please take heart, how could you just loose just 13btc with a tinkle of an eye that is the problem with one wallet that stores all token. please I urge you to use multiple wallet in terms of transaction or storing of tokens so that if any one of the wallet is being hacked or somethings wrongs you know that the next wallet is there for you. I was have once fall-in in such victim of loosing my token. lastly I was hack of my ethereum wallet address last 3 weeks and they made way all my token within a minutes.
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May 21, 2018, 07:12:09 PM
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This is your fault  . As a bitcoin user you should know
What problem can happen with it.  13 btc is not a joke, which  you lost.
So now as soon as possible  make  a strong  and secure  wallet and computer  system  where  you store your earnings and make a safe transaction.  There are so many hackers to stole your coins.

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May 21, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

This is a very painful way to learn that sometimes, things are too good to be true. This is so tragic and I have heard similar stories like this but it is unfortunate to read them. I hope you are in better shape now and hopefully you can back to this industry soon. I learned to be more careful and cautious now and I will hope that this things won't happen to me because I really won't know what to do.
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May 21, 2018, 07:43:59 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

This is a very painful way to learn that sometimes, things are too good to be true. This is so tragic and I have heard similar stories like this but it is unfortunate to read them. I hope you are in better shape now and hopefully you can back to this industry soon. I learned to be more careful and cautious now and I will hope that this things won't happen to me because I really won't know what to do.
They even send small tokens, I always check everything 3 times. Why did not you protect your tokens? For me such situations are unthinkable ...
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May 22, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
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Well, that's against the wise method of handling crypto savings. I do see very rare chances of getting your funds back because there are the crypto users not the member of Bitcointalk and since the funds have moved from the wallet couple times, I don't expect integrity from the receiver. As we all know that crypto is all about self-responsibility, one should never underestimate even a minor mistake. I am sorry for the loss of OP but there is nothing that he can do to recover his funds. I would recommend keeping posting this case on maximum crypto related platforms and that might be the only way to grab the attention of the receiver or on the other hand, it will help other crypto users out there to secure their funds.
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May 23, 2018, 04:14:03 AM
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advice to friends who read this thread, do not repeat like this again, please be careful in the world of crypto, because crypto is very difficult in prediction. and never risk your treasure in the whole crypto world!

my advice to the owner of this thread hopefully return again Bitcoin who has stolen it and hopefully your day please friends. Smiley

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May 23, 2018, 01:18:41 PM
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I’m already sick to my stomach.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

This is precisely why we need crypto regulated in order to protect us from any unauthorized transactions.
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May 23, 2018, 03:49:55 PM
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it's very painful when you lose 13 btc, so make a lesson for all of you who have btc, we have to be careful in holding bitcoin, crime is everywhere, so you should be wary
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May 23, 2018, 03:57:09 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
thats really bad we all know that 13 bitcoin is worth so much well lucky person if someone just hacked it but they will get their karma at the right time

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May 23, 2018, 04:13:34 PM
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Why did you keep all your life savings in BTC? I really don't get it. Unfortunately the only thing that you can do now is analyse your actions step by step to find out which software has been compromised. You either have a trojan on your computer or downloaded fake wallets that had a backdoor allowing the hacker to get your keys.
The money is gone either way, calm down, have some alcohol or try to get some sleep. The sooner you get over it the better for your health.
It is a really unfortunate situation, most probably he tried to extract the fork coins using the private keys keeping the bitcoin in the wallet and that is the biggest mistake he did, we have discussed about extracting the new coins and how to do it safely, the risk of using your private key with the coins in it is the most damaging thing you can do. I am not even sure who is behind BTC Diamond and BTC Private and i have not extracted anything till now, the only coin i moved is BCH and that too first moving my bitcoin to another wallet and that is the safest way.

But then again we cannot blame the beholder that loss a 13 bitcoins , the only thing we can blame is his action to the beholder i suggest and put on your mind that downloading some software that is not totally a hundred percent safe try to conduct some reviews though , and now instead of getting depressed , move on and keep looking forward.
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May 23, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
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I’m already sick to my stomach.
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just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
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I have now lost my entire life savings.
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Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

As an additional warning to those that are new to the space...

If the amount of value that you are holding in crypto is such that you would be devastated if you lost it all, then you are holding too much value in crypto.

These are experimental, volatile, and risky protocols.  Do not risk your mental and emotional well-being.

This is precisely why we need crypto regulated in order to protect us from any unauthorized transactions.


Not regulated, we need people educated, thats the real issue..No need to expect someone else protecting you when you can protect yourself.
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May 23, 2018, 07:44:29 PM
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If I lost hundreds of bitcoin I don't know what will happen to me. Better do not put all your bitcoins in one wallet.
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May 23, 2018, 07:46:25 PM
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If I lost hundreds of bitcoin I don't know what will happen to me. Better do not put all your bitcoins in one wallet.

"Never put all your eggs in one basket" as the saying goes

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May 23, 2018, 08:09:11 PM
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OMG thats a whole lot i am truly sorry for your loss but humans are very heartless i hope you recover from this painful situation and God help you to pull through.
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May 23, 2018, 08:25:29 PM
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wow dude that's sad Sad
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May 23, 2018, 08:42:15 PM
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i can understand your feelings right now man, 13 BTC is huge as in I'm still trying to find 1BTC , but don't lose your hopes learn from your mistakes and go forward without thinking. because we all know the transactions are not reversible! i wish you all the best and my blessed bro!

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May 24, 2018, 10:42:34 AM
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Huh Everyone should be very careful even with single little mistake one can loose whole investment.
Yes I agree.We should be careful always because many hackers willing to grab the opportunity to hackked our account.I hope they got prisoned for what they've done.
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May 24, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
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In this world, money is the root of all evil,  they will do anything just to get it.  People live because of money and die because of.it.  amd theres nothing you can do to bring them back. If im at your situation im definitely out  of myself. Im hoping god has a better plans for you.
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May 24, 2018, 11:01:08 AM
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The "official" website is down: http://www.btcd.io/

http://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-diamond-scam-claims/: "SCAM WARNING – multiple sites claim to let you collect Bitcoin Diamond. They'll steal your assets. Never enter your mnemonic into a third party website"

Basically it seems the whole Bitcoin Diamond fork was designed to scam and rob people. So sad people would enter their mnemonic (private) details in to a third party website, unbelievable. It seems after 23 pages of this thread it becomes clear exactly how the OP was scammed. His Ledger Nano was not compromised and most probably there is no malware or virus on his PC. He entered his private key or seed on to a scamming website thinking he would receive forked Bitcoin Diamond coins but got scammed instead.

So the question arises why the scammers have not tried to access the 13.65 BTC they scammed from the OP? Well it is simple to answer, they probably scammed so many people and have access to so many BTC that they have no need to rush to access all their loot. They must have millions of dollars worth of BTC to burn through and most probably will access wallets as and when they need money.

I feel bad for the OP as he should have moved all his Bitcoin out of the wallet before trying to receive his fake-forked coins or better still researched everything and concluded that Bitcoin Diamond was probably a scam and not worth trying to obtain. The scammers used an elaborate game to scam people and sadly it seems were very successful.



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May 26, 2018, 12:15:23 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

i can not describe in words how i feel for your coins. Sad to know your 13 bitcoins are stolen. There's nothing we can do now since its hard or i should say impossible to trace transaction. Anyways its your fault you should arrange software or hardware wallet.
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May 26, 2018, 12:28:41 AM
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I do not like these forks, especially not for any shitcoints. I'm sorry for your loss.
 I hope you have learned your lesson and enough motivation to restart. Cheer up!
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May 27, 2018, 04:46:15 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
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H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
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It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

You have to beware about that fact anyone can stole your passwords easily. You have to learn with your mistakes. You're not alone 2 years ago i was scammed by someone, i also feel the same thing as you're doing now. Sad
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May 29, 2018, 04:28:21 AM
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So sorry for your loss. I am feeling with you about 1 year ago i lost 1 BTC because an hacker. I hope you can rise again from your failures and can learn from your mistakes.
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May 29, 2018, 05:08:55 AM
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I guess you know this by now, but for others that read this...

You made 2 big mistakes:
1. You kept too much money in one wallet.
2. You tried to get forked coins without moving out your real money away first.

I'm really really sorry for your loss Sad ... 13 BTC wow....


Get together and think on the future. With some skill and luck you'll build up another money. You have to.
I agree with you, in bulk, should not use online wallet! Safety above all, there is no guarantee when using directly on the Internet! That is a big money, hope that is not all your money!
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May 29, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
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So scarry so i think i must not put too much bitcoins on my wallets for me if ever i get hacked or steal by a scammers,and yet i must be careful also in trusting somebody.,its a lesson to anyone.
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May 29, 2018, 06:03:09 PM
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waw it's so sad ,,,

but this can be as learning for new readers and other cryto players ...

I am sorry for too many BTC coins are lost, keep the spirit ..
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May 29, 2018, 06:24:41 PM
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Almost every month we hear story like this, people being scammed and left empty handed. thanks by posting this we can get some idea for future transaction we don't do what you have done.
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May 29, 2018, 07:04:01 PM
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 My heart goes out to you friend, but we gotta protect ourselves in these spots as best we can. My advice to anybody reading this thread is don't opt in for some small amount of free money. They are banking on you messing up your key and seeds at some point, and if we only follow verified guides like Trezor and Nano Ledger then we should be fine.

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May 29, 2018, 07:13:58 PM
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This is heartbreaking. One time I exposed my private key, the rest is history. I will advise everyone to be really careful because some vicious individual are banking on you to make the slightest mistake and all you've laboured for will be gone.
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May 29, 2018, 07:24:59 PM
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Thanks. Worst day of my life. No idea what I’m going to do.

I’m praying the culprits have half a heart to return some of it...

Please, I’m begging you, whoever you are.

Do you think one of the member here in forum stolened your 13BTC?? thats why you posting it here and begging to back it again? I dont think so bro. If you announcing here that you have 13btc in your one wallet and transfer it to forked its probably one of here in forum get your btc but if not you should need to do is to pray that person to make your mind be peacefull. I know 13btc is a huge money but this is the world of crypto currency you cannot back it again once you'll lose your control on it.
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May 29, 2018, 08:05:39 PM
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I can only imagine what the OP is going through now... I wish you make twice more moneyin the very near future  and replace your gap with new fresh energy.
Didn't quite understand the fork part and how someone broke into his wallet  and how was he keeping hos coins? Dor example, keeping them on blockchain.info  isn't safer?

To find out you have to be in.
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May 29, 2018, 08:06:04 PM
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It's very sad story man, 13 bitcoins is very big money and probably you should find the way how to return it. If you have any ideas it's good but if not try to do somthing.

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May 29, 2018, 08:18:06 PM
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o my god So sorry for your loss to hear news such as this was also exposed to thefts,  you must be very sorry and disappointed with what you have done. on the other hand you should take this as a lesson so you are more careful in keeping your bitcoin dompen. I hope that you will not give up and will soon be able to return some of the savings
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May 29, 2018, 08:48:09 PM
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Really if you have good skills then you will can be recovery your money shortly.  I feel that my wallet very attractive to hackers. So cash it out in order to secure it much more, but they can track dow your account and steal all the profita that you have in just a blink of an eye.
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May 30, 2018, 02:14:01 AM
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This a lesson learned to everyone do not store much money in just one address, maybe we should split our funds into multiple address and do some safety measure in transfering funds like creating a bridge account.
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May 30, 2018, 02:46:47 AM
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i hope the culprit of your wallet change their heart because they see you in this forum.
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May 30, 2018, 02:52:47 AM
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Other people don't know how to play fair and square. 13 btc, if you were in my country you can use it for small business already .
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May 30, 2018, 03:01:36 AM
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13 BTC? Wow. I am concerned about your bad news. If anyone stolen his BTC please return to him. I hope you can find your way out for this problem. Anyone please keep your wallet secure and safely from thief. Smiley
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May 30, 2018, 03:05:25 AM
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Tragically, we all know that searching for bitcoin is very difficult, even with mining S9 then 3 years we can produce 13 btc, it becomes a valuable lesson that security issues are things that we should pay attention.


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May 30, 2018, 03:07:12 AM
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So sorry for your loss. I am feeling with you about 1 year ago i lost 1 BTC because an hacker. I hope you can rise again from your failures and can learn from your mistakes.
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May 30, 2018, 06:31:41 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

What a loss. Lesson learned: there's no such thing as too safe. I hope someone returns the guy's bitcoin collection and just cut him some slack for being complacent. I'm pretty sure the guy made a lot of effort to get his bitcoins and now they're all gone.

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May 30, 2018, 07:43:03 AM
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Unfortunately, please tell me which micro type you used. What is the reason you lost your password or hawcker hawcker invaded or you missed someone for the number of btc you have? You make it clear to anyone who can help you
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May 30, 2018, 07:46:52 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
I can not do anything other than sympathy with you. That is a huge amount and I always look forward to having it. That is a great loss and I hope you will stand up after that loss. You need to be more careful in protecting your property. Any transactions are found by hackers. So I think you should divide your money into many different wallet types.

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May 30, 2018, 07:51:13 AM
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I just lost my entire wallet of 13 BTC.
wow, what if it really happened it is a huge loss for us.
can not imagine how much money has been lost.
hopefully it does not happen to me and us together.

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May 30, 2018, 07:59:14 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
Another person lost a massive amount of bitcoin. This our main problem having bitcoin it might lose it or hack, stole our accounts. This the weakness of blockchain technology and of course the person. It’s too hard to recover this. This might be a lesson to all the holder and investor of all crypto to be always careful. I think your account stole of the phasing site.   
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May 31, 2018, 12:31:31 PM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
This is very scary story, i mean 13 bitcoin is with to very big amount and I even can’t imagine your situation that how you are feeling because I never own such a huge amount but yes you need to be very cautious with your bitcoin wallet and pins . These are the things that you need to keep very confidential and private because once stolen it is next to impossible to recover them all and if bitcoin is not legalised in your country then you even can’t do any police complaint or can’t use any legal procedure to recover them.
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May 31, 2018, 12:36:59 PM
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Almost every month we hear story like this, people being scammed and left empty handed. thanks by posting this we can get some idea for future transaction we don't do what you have done.

The thread starter decided to not even reply to you. Sad as it is and we all feel sorry for him, the truth is he should have replied to you and provided a full explanation as the OP does not exactly make it clear how the scam happened.

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May 31, 2018, 12:39:31 PM
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How might you lose that much bitcoin? I believe it's a misstep that occurs from yourself in view of heedlessness and the likelihood you time after time introduce some product so you don't feel if your pearangkat implanted infection that can deplete the substance of your wallet.
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May 31, 2018, 12:42:41 PM
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That's so sad to hear. Thanks for education the people. Hope you get over this
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May 31, 2018, 12:44:03 PM
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Its as ad that that happened , Bitcoin is such a valuable coin that losing even one hurts deeply losing coins over careless ness however is something that we must take blame for, Your private key is meant only for your eyes,  no one else, you share it with anyone then get ready to lose,
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May 31, 2018, 01:29:10 PM
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Almost around 100k USD! That is a considerable measure of cash, and I can't envision how you will conquer this occurrence you require a man to comfort you to maintain a strategic distance from to depression. I encourage to avoid alcohol and drugs your security. Everybody ought to know and more mindful with regards to its security. We should split our assets into the different address and avoid loose. God have a decent arrangement to you simply accept and there is bright future soon.
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May 31, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
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losing 13 bitcoins is definitely very hard and not nice. i'm sorry for you! it's not easy to cope with something like that. i would be devastated.  Cry
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June 02, 2018, 08:47:29 AM
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All of this happens only because we are careless, we should be more careful from today.
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June 02, 2018, 09:46:12 AM
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.

That is what is not your care in maintaining the bitcoin you hold. It's okay to invest as long as you do not everything you bet. As a result you have no savings for your future. Like rice has become chicken porridge, so can not be restored again as before. Cool
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June 02, 2018, 09:51:35 AM
 #483

This is probably the most unfortunate thing I've seen today. Since those hackers have the stomach to steal your BTC, I'm sorry to say this but they give them back to you, not even a fraction of Bitcoin. That 13 Bitcoin is not a joke because that is really a huge investment. I hope you recover from that mate. We know that you will because its the crypto world, there's a lot of opportunities for you here but you just have to work twice for now I think. I know you can do it and you will be able to be successful in doing that. Good luck mate.
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June 02, 2018, 09:54:25 AM
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Oh my God! 13 BTC just stolen! Very sad , very very sad. I am feeling too much bad by thinking that 13 BTC stolen! OMG!
But Don't lose your hope man! Please be patient . Everything may will okay. I will Pray for you, hope you will recover your lose.


Yes dont expose your private key to anyone in your family because that's the most important thing to do when you transac in your bitcoin it's better to keep it good and keep your duplicate on your private key to avoid losing your btc that's good to do.
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June 02, 2018, 10:05:17 AM
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 It is very sad to lose so much btc, but do not be discouraged and break up my brother's hope because maybe it is a life study and test. My suggestion to keep the spirit and self-interopection may be negligence or carelessness that you do so you can lose btc, and for the future to be more thorough and careful in doing btc transactions and make sure that you are on the right page and not spam and keep it well the confidentiality of your btc password to avoid theft.
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June 02, 2018, 10:07:04 AM
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I agree, everything in the world comes from negligence. It is necessary to beat extra-mute and juvenile
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June 02, 2018, 10:44:29 AM
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I am very sad to hear this news. hopefully you are not depressed and the thief quickly realized and returned your BTC. we must be more careful and do not happen again.

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June 02, 2018, 02:48:29 PM
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13 bitcoin? That's really a huge amount of money. Previously I also had to lose my privatekey, but the amount of that was also not much. This is really a lesson.you should how to keep money before learning how to make money. Good luck man
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June 02, 2018, 03:01:22 PM
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Thanks for your time of sharing your experience which is a helping caution for us. You should never expose the credentials like seed and now it is still nothing tough to gain 13 BTC, never give up and start again your job, when we get shaped with all the experiences we can only reach to the next level to understand every situation.
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June 02, 2018, 03:14:06 PM
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Dont lose hope bro.Everything will be fine.God will help you in fulfilling your future goals.May you be happy for future.  Smiley
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June 02, 2018, 07:45:04 PM
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It's very sad for me to be aware of what happened to you. If it was all your money, then I'm sorry for you. Be courageous and try to find something to do that will not make you sad.
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June 03, 2018, 03:46:58 AM
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So you were trying to get altcoins by importing your private keys into Electrum? I'm not sure how that would result in you getting your money stolen. You even said you had a hardware wallet...

Or did you import your private keys into an altcoin wallet without first sending the money to another wallet? I guess that could easily lead you to lose money, and maybe the altcoin even has a function like that where your private keys are then uploaded to the wallet creator so they can potentially steal your money in the other coin.
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