Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner

[Sandal_Hat]

I am debating if I should buy the 2nd batch, since I have the $250 coupons?! What are you guys doing with the coupons? I have free electricity included in my apartment cost so I would be happy if I could just ROI in  half a year. But I am afraid those will become doorstoppers eventually?!

With free electricity and coupon i'd give you the green light....sounds like zcash is not gonna fork now so you'll always have a coin to mine.  Even though all the z9 ever made(and the faster more effecient ones coming out) will be on it with you, you should be good with the free power and the low consumption on this device to at least ROI and not get your apartment supervisor angry at the high power bills(for awhile anyway).  But yeah this guy will be a big paper weight in 3-6 months, so if you expect your free power situation to change i'd say no.

What are you talking about? Zcash just did a vote at their Montreal conference and will be putting ASIC resistance on the back burner. https://www.coindesk.com/zcash-governance-panel-shoots-research-asic-resistance/
By the time they get around to it, ASIC mining will have a strong foothold and the GPU miners will go searching elsewhere for the few scraps left; if not shutting down entirely. Since most of the mining hash will be derived from ASICS, I am sure they will get increasing push back from their ASIC mining community. Who is going to go along with turning their coin making machines into bricks?

Same reason s9s are becoming big paper weights...too many s9s and better newer models coming.  Also I’d expect all equihash coins to fork including zcash eventually so ya big paper weight one way or another.

Yep, do not underestimates asic manufacturers such as bitmain's ability to spam the market. Considering it takes very low electricity to even make a couple of dollars a month, majority of these machines will not break even I believe.

Impossible,  all first batch owners will break even before the next batch ships.

How so? It is making only 425 USD per month now at 10 cents electricity and it was around 600+ a month back? It is going down fast as it is.

425/month?  mining what?

My z9 mini still pumping out $27/day on avg.  basically the same as it was a month ago.

It is 510 profit per month now according to calculator... And it is about to get hit hard by incoming machines.

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[TGJ]

It is 510 profit per month now according to calculator... And it is about to get hit hard by incoming machines.

Estimates for an overclocked mini on whattomine for Zen is $26/day or $782/month. Not sure what calculator you are looking at. Yes there will be a bunch of machines coming online in the next month or so but most who have purchased batch 1 will be very close to ROI by then.

[Tailgunner]

I feel like zencash returns dropped because they changed the block reward for miners recently

Yes, last week the block reward dropped to 8.75, so now I believe miners are only getting like 70% of the coins and the masternodes are getting the rest.

[Longsnowsm]

I would love to know what and where you guys are mining that your bringing home $27 a day per miner.  I am nowhere near that figure on Prohashing.  But then again I am not overclocking mine due to the heat.

[ltcsprite]

I would love to know what and where you guys are mining that your bringing home $27 a day per miner.  I am nowhere near that figure on Prohashing.  But then again I am not overclocking mine due to the heat.

yeah running mine overclocked to achieve that.

[martyroz]

I set my Z9 mini to ZEN since day 1 (June 26)

29 days = 41 ZEN

41 ZEN @ $31 = $1,271

Still another 30 days left until the flood gates are opened.

[Ruhtilg]

I set my Z9 mini to ZEN since day 1 (June 26)

29 days = 41 ZEN

41 ZEN @ $31 = $1,271

Still another 30 days left until the flood gates are opened.

You are very lucky. Even if it takes 90 to break even, it is still a good deal.

[acidrush]

I would love to know what and where you guys are mining that your bringing home $27 a day per miner.  I am nowhere near that figure on Prohashing.  But then again I am not overclocking mine due to the heat.

you're paying 5% fee at prohashing. Best payout for me so far is flypool mining zcash

[whoismoses]

Update on my Z9 Mini profits. The block reward to miners was cut a a little over a week ago so that has some impact.

Date------	Zen/Day
27-Jun	1.3032
28-Jun	1.3603
29-Jun	1.383
30-Jun	1.4762
1-Jul	1.5212
2-Jul	1.4962
3-Jul	1.4312
4-Jul	1.4921
5-Jul	1.5317
6-Jul	1.5048
7-Jul	1.4721
8-Jul	1.442
9-Jul	1.4814
10-Jul	1.4773
11-Jul	1.4066
12-Jul	1.3858
13-Jul	1.3414
14-Jul	1.3097
15-Jul	1.3306
16-Jul	1.2652
17-Jul	1.2555
18-Jul	1.2519
19-Jul	1.212
20-Jul	1.1556
21-Jul	1.1875
22-Jul	1.1621
23-Jul	1.1512
24-Jul	1.1499
25-Jul	1.1476
26-Jul	1.1198
27-Jul	1.1472
28-Jul	1.1019
29-Jul	1.0783
30-Jul	1.0631

[jimsta]

Update on my Z9 Mini profits. The block reward to miners was cut a a little over a week ago so that has some impact.

Date------	Zen/Day
27-Jun	1.3032
28-Jun	1.3603
29-Jun	1.383
30-Jun	1.4762
1-Jul	1.5212
2-Jul	1.4962
3-Jul	1.4312
4-Jul	1.4921
5-Jul	1.5317
6-Jul	1.5048
7-Jul	1.4721
8-Jul	1.442
9-Jul	1.4814
10-Jul	1.4773
11-Jul	1.4066
12-Jul	1.3858
13-Jul	1.3414
14-Jul	1.3097
15-Jul	1.3306
16-Jul	1.2652
17-Jul	1.2555
18-Jul	1.2519
19-Jul	1.212
20-Jul	1.1556
21-Jul	1.1875
22-Jul	1.1621
23-Jul	1.1512
24-Jul	1.1499
25-Jul	1.1476
26-Jul	1.1198
27-Jul	1.1472
28-Jul	1.1019
29-Jul	1.0783
30-Jul	1.0631

Wow, look at that stead decrease though, as more of the innosilicon miners come online, i can imagine that dropping more. 

[Django69]

Update on my Z9 Mini profits. The block reward to miners was cut a a little over a week ago so that has some impact.

Date------	Zen/Day
27-Jun	1.3032
28-Jun	1.3603
29-Jun	1.383
30-Jun	1.4762
1-Jul	1.5212
2-Jul	1.4962
3-Jul	1.4312
4-Jul	1.4921
5-Jul	1.5317
6-Jul	1.5048
7-Jul	1.4721
8-Jul	1.442
9-Jul	1.4814
10-Jul	1.4773
11-Jul	1.4066
12-Jul	1.3858
13-Jul	1.3414
14-Jul	1.3097
15-Jul	1.3306
16-Jul	1.2652
17-Jul	1.2555
18-Jul	1.2519
19-Jul	1.212
20-Jul	1.1556
21-Jul	1.1875
22-Jul	1.1621
23-Jul	1.1512
24-Jul	1.1499
25-Jul	1.1476
26-Jul	1.1198
27-Jul	1.1472
28-Jul	1.1019
29-Jul	1.0783
30-Jul	1.0631

Pool?

Thanks

[wesdak]

Is possible to calculate the impact of this machines in final week of September? When Bitmain ship their orders to thousand of customers?

Any other example with coins and the release of this machines ?


Thanks!

[r01k]

Is possible to calculate the impact of this machines in final week of September? When Bitmain ship their orders to thousand of customers?

Any other example with coins and the release of this machines ?


Thanks!

Impossible to know for sure but based on historical precedence (Antminer D3 is a classical example) when Bitmain and Innosilicon gradually start shipping out by the end of August the profit will rapidly be half of what is today if not lower.

[AriesIV10]

Has anyone done any research on reversing the airflow?  AND even putting the fan on the other end and pulling the air through?


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I only reversed the airflow


My temps at 750mhz:
Before: 67-71° at 80%
Now: 54-59 at 70%

Is it possible that your fan had been set the wrong way from the factory? Can you confirm which direction the air flows now after you switched? And how about sound, did it change in any way (especially the pitch)?

The fan used to suck air in, now its blowing out. Speed is about 1k rpm less.

To avoid confusion, it pushed air in, now it is pulling air out, correct?


correct

[Sandal_Hat]

Calculator shows it is now 388 usd per month already at 10 cents electricity...

[Krogfan]

Calculator shows it is now 388 usd per month already at 10 cents electricity...

Yes!!! Sell em all cheap to me

[ltcsprite]

Calculator shows it is now 388 usd per month already at 10 cents electricity...

And you're retarded.

Good job.

[wishxy]

 Is it worth to by now Z9 MINI for 2000e ($2315), electricity $0.065?

[roc-noc]

Is it worth to by now Z9 MINI for 2000e ($2315), electricity $0.065?

Why would you... when you can buy a new Z9 mini for $850 (or less with coupons) and have it delivered in about 30 days.

$2315
-  850
-------
$1465

Do you really think you can make $1465 in the next 30 days with a Z9 mini?

Not at today's crypto values.

[whoismoses]

Average revenue over the next 30 days (per day, at today's prices) is likely going to be $15, that is about $450!