Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner

[bigassboy]

System show status “unshipped” but I received my 2 x z9 mini a few hours ago. Yeah!!

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[martyroz]

System show status “unshipped” but I received my 2 x z9 mini a few hours ago. Yeah!!

Hmm, yes I see mine are well advanced in delivery. Almost here in fact.

[roc-noc]

My June 6th order shows shipped on Bitmain website.  Fedex shows delivery today (in USA) but also shows  "customs clearance in progress" in China.    Really hoping the Trump tax is not applied to these. 

[zhzz]

Also ASICminer 40k and 180k are getting released im September. Earnings will drop hard I guess. Don't get me wrong, I ordered one batch 3... :/

asicminer.co is scam...

Voskcoin received one so I doubt it's a scam. Care to elaborate ?

It's still a fake until he proves it is submitting solutions from the machine. Did you not actually watch the video?

I suppose, ASICminer is quietly mining with their miners at their own pool.

lol @ everyone calling asicminer a scam company. they were one of the first asic companies and the one who created "block erupter" in 2013, long before any of you new miners knew about bitcoin.
are their products cheap? no. can you buy more hashpower with the same amout of money? yes. but are Z9's or A9's liquid cooled and can run inside your bedroom? hell now.

[steelminer]

Just got shipping notice on 2x mini's ordered 7/7/18  woohoo!

[vincl]

Also ASICminer 40k and 180k are getting released im September. Earnings will drop hard I guess. Don't get me wrong, I ordered one batch 3... :/

asicminer.co is scam...

Voskcoin received one so I doubt it's a scam. Care to elaborate ?

It's still a fake until he proves it is submitting solutions from the machine. Did you not actually watch the video?

I suppose, ASICminer is quietly mining with their miners at their own pool.

lol @ everyone calling asicminer a scam company. they were one of the first asic companies and the one who created "block erupter" in 2013, long before any of you new miners knew about bitcoin.
are their products cheap? no. can you buy more hashpower with the same amout of money? yes. but are Z9's or A9's liquid cooled and can run inside your bedroom? hell now.

how much did they pay to you to write this?

[mcun2000]

Just got bitmain's ship notice email for my 2 Z9 mini's ordered June 30th.

Along with everyone else, looks like Bitmain is shipping on time per usual.

[TGJ]

It will be interesting to watch the Zcash difficulty over the next 1 to 2 weeks.

[RedRockMining]

Just got bitmain's ship notice email for my 2 Z9 mini's ordered June 30th.

Along with everyone else, looks like Bitmain is shipping on time per usual.

But Minis, not full Z9s. I believe the Z9s were supposed to ship in August so it looks like they're about to be late.

[efudd]

Just got bitmain's ship notice email for my 2 Z9 mini's ordered June 30th.

Along with everyone else, looks like Bitmain is shipping on time per usual.

But Minis, not full Z9s. I believe the Z9s were supposed to ship in August so it looks like they're about to be late.

9/1-9/10 for 1st batch Z9s.

[RedRockMining]

Just got bitmain's ship notice email for my 2 Z9 mini's ordered June 30th.

Along with everyone else, looks like Bitmain is shipping on time per usual.

But Minis, not full Z9s. I believe the Z9s were supposed to ship in August so it looks like they're about to be late.

9/1-9/10 for 1st batch Z9s.

Thx. You are correct. I had 8/15 as a date in my notes, but that was for balance of payment!

[mcun2000]

I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

[marcdal]

did someone receive 2nd batch z9 mini ? i heard on discord a9-z9 that the 2nd batch of z9 mini, bitmain have block the possibility to overclock ?

[efudd]

I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Did you get any information on how this was being classified? I'm looking at https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/List%202.pdf and https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/List%201.pdf trying to see what it may fall under. Can you call UPS and find out what tarriff classification this is being hit with? Perhaps this is something we can appeal/change.

See https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/07/06/what-if-trump-imposes-even-more-china-tariffs/#5339ebfdad9d as an example: specifically the line "Consumer goods have been avoided for the most part, with a focus instead on industrial components such as PC components ($1.39 billion)" -- I would classify this as a a "consumer good", as it is absolutely not a "pc component".

Also see: https://www.usitc.gov/tata/hts/bychapter/index.htm

And: https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff.asp -- which i haven't figured out how to use yet.


If we can find out how it is being classified in HTS, there is maybe hope?

-j

[mcun2000]

I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Did you get any information on how this was being classified? I'm looking at https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/List%202.pdf and https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/List%201.pdf trying to see what it may fall under. Can you call UPS and find out what tarriff classification this is being hit with? Perhaps this is something we can appeal/change.

See https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/07/06/what-if-trump-imposes-even-more-china-tariffs/#5339ebfdad9d as an example: specifically the line "Consumer goods have been avoided for the most part, with a focus instead on industrial components such as PC components ($1.39 billion)" -- I would classify this as a a "consumer good", as it is absolutely not a "pc component".

Also see: https://www.usitc.gov/tata/hts/bychapter/index.htm

And: https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff.asp -- which i haven't figured out how to use yet.


If we can find out how it is being classified in HTS, there is maybe hope?

-j

I called UPS and also double checked my invoice for my import code.

UPS is useless. They say that it's the government that assessed it, so I need to talk to customs in order to challenge the assessment. They have no information other than that the government assessed the fee, and they (UPS) need to collect said fee before delivery.

Checking my invoice from Bitmain, the specified HS/HTS code is 8471.50.0150. I can't find this code in the two links you provided (@efudd). So I'm not sure how my item is assessed such high duties.

[efudd]

I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Did you get any information on how this was being classified? I'm looking at https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/List%202.pdf and https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/List%201.pdf trying to see what it may fall under. Can you call UPS and find out what tarriff classification this is being hit with? Perhaps this is something we can appeal/change.

See https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/07/06/what-if-trump-imposes-even-more-china-tariffs/#5339ebfdad9d as an example: specifically the line "Consumer goods have been avoided for the most part, with a focus instead on industrial components such as PC components ($1.39 billion)" -- I would classify this as a a "consumer good", as it is absolutely not a "pc component".

Also see: https://www.usitc.gov/tata/hts/bychapter/index.htm

And: https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff.asp -- which i haven't figured out how to use yet.


If we can find out how it is being classified in HTS, there is maybe hope?

-j

I called UPS and also double checked my invoice for my import code.

UPS is useless. They say that it's the government that assessed it, so I need to talk to customs in order to challenge the assessment. They have no information other than that the government assessed the fee, and they (UPS) need to collect said fee before delivery.

Checking my invoice from Bitmain, the specified HS/HTS code is 8471.50.0150. I can't find this code in the two links you provided (@efudd). So I'm not sure how my item is assessed such high duties.

https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=8471.50.0150

That is 8471.50.0150.

8471.50.01* is "free" for category 1.... which I don't understand yet, and 35% for category 2. Still searching, and I'll edit this post as I can figure out more.
I have 2 Z9s coming via UPS and 1 Z9 via DHL "soon" -- so I'm vested in understanding how to avoid this, if possible.

Ok, this document describes column 1 general&special, and column 2: https://www.usitc.gov/tata/hts/archive/9100/910gn1.pdf

Specifically, column2 is defined by countries listed in 3b, otherwise, with nothing specified, the lowest rate applies, which in this case, appears to be "free".

I'm basing this on https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=8471 which lead me to chapter 84 (link 'Download chapter' on that page), and https://www.usitc.gov/tata/hts/archive/9100/910gn1.pdf

I'm unsure if the USITC document is the most recent.

As of ~5:30-5:45PM Eastern, both US International trade Commission and US Customs and Border Patrol offices are closed -- tried to call both for more clarity.

Please share more as you can learn -- I'm unsure how to 'attack' this, but my ignorant searches suggest tax on this classification should be 1/general/free based on the parent classification code of 8471 and china not being listed in "3b".

[VoskCoin]

My girlfriend earned back the ZenCash she converted to BTC to buy the z9 mini (batch 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_xfq57dOmc

[shater]

I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

That doesn't make any sense. Trump tariffs target raw materials and semi-finished products. Z9 Mini is a fully-built Chinese miner, which should not get the 25% tariff.

[bigassboy]

did someone receive 2nd batch z9 mini ? i heard on discord a9-z9 that the 2nd batch of z9 mini, bitmain have block the possibility to overclock ?

not true, it can be OC. I just did it

[mfurman]

did someone receive 2nd batch z9 mini ? i heard on discord a9-z9 that the 2nd batch of z9 mini, bitmain have block the possibility to overclock ?

not true, it can be OC. I just did it

Great to hear!