[EMC] EMERCOIN — Blockchain Service Platform. PoS&PoW | BTC merge-mined

[tantk]

to do pos minting ur emercoin qt must be running

[bioly]

Do you have forum for technical issues? I dont want spam this thread too much with technical issues..

But, another questions:
Can I install emercoind on rasppi?
Can I mint on vps/rasp with emercoind?

[immangrace]

Hi!

http://blockchainengine.org

We just launched it!

Nice outcome. It seems Emercoin has very good dev support.

[Fixx]

Do you have forum for technical issues? I dont want spam this thread too much with technical issues..

http://emercointalk.org/ and this thread is suitable.

But, another questions:
Can I install emercoind on rasppi?
Can I mint on vps/rasp with emercoind?

Yes, of course, here is an article how to do it.
And yes, Rasberi Pi delivers this task well.
http://emercoin.info/en/guides/how-to-install-emercoin-wallet-on-raspberry-pi.html

[Fixx]

Nice outcome. It seems Emercoin has very good dev support.

Thank you!

Developers are always welcome!

[K1773R]

Do you have forum for technical issues? I dont want spam this thread too much with technical issues..

But, another questions:
Can I install emercoind on rasppi?
Can I mint on vps/rasp with emercoind?

Minting on this coin is very cpu intensive due to bad implementation. The problem is mostly ignored and probably wont be fixed.

[Fixx]

Minting on this coin is very cpu intensive due to bad implementation. The problem is mostly ignored and probably wont be fixed.

It is not true. Wallet feels fine even on old processors.

[Emerger]

Minting on this coin is very cpu intensive due to bad implementation. The problem is mostly ignored and probably wont be fixed.

It is not true. Wallet feels fine even on old processors.

I find it works great staking on old processor too, even virtual machine. However I think there may be some problem if the amount of UTXO in the wallet is very large. Because, all those many amounts trying to stake separately...

The code for staking is at https://github.com/EvgenijM86/emercoin/blob/master/src/wallet.cpp in function CreateCoinStake. But I don't know enough about C++ to understand all implications.

Hopefully K1773R can explain more about his problem. And if there is a problem for some situations, then perhaps the team will investigate the cause.

[Fixx]

Emerger, K1773R!

emercoind can load CPU if not found for more than two peers. From the number of transactions it is independent. Even with ~ 1,000 transactions on the simplest VPS ~ 2-3 CPU%

[Emerger]

Emerger, K1773R!

emercoind can load CPU if not found for more than two peers. From the number of transactions it is independent. Even with ~ 1,000 transactions on the simplest VPS ~ 2-3 CPU%

Agreed. But I also experienced some problems long ago, and I know K1773R had mentioned something similar before.

K1773R, if you are having an issue then perhaps you could try consolidate all coins by sending to a single address you own, and see if this was indeed the cause for server load. Because it seems most people aren't having any problem. Just a thought.

[K1773R]

Emerger, K1773R!

emercoind can load CPU if not found for more than two peers. From the number of transactions it is independent. Even with ~ 1,000 transactions on the simplest VPS ~ 2-3 CPU%

im sry but we are talking about something completely different.

[K1773R]

Minting on this coin is very cpu intensive due to bad implementation. The problem is mostly ignored and probably wont be fixed.

It is not true. Wallet feels fine even on old processors.

I find it works great staking on old processor too, even virtual machine. However I think there may be some problem if the amount of UTXO in the wallet is very large. Because, all those many amounts trying to stake separately...

The code for staking is at https://github.com/EvgenijM86/emercoin/blob/master/src/wallet.cpp in function CreateCoinStake. But I don't know enough about C++ to understand all implications.

Hopefully K1773R can explain more about his problem. And if there is a problem for some situations, then perhaps the team will investigate the cause.

yes, this is correct. with time your UXTO set gets big. even if your sending your coins back to yourself to consolidate, it wont help (ie having 1 UXTO). so the minting/stacking code is very bad.
Unfortunately this problem is ignored. may it be due to bad English skills or ignorance, it still an issue and others will hit it too.

[Fixx]

im sry but we are talking about something completely different.

It seems that we are talking about how you do not like our code. At the same time you do not offer anything. You just say that the code is bad. Ok, show as it should.

[jrmvanbex]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/how-to-integrate-blockchain-into-existing-businesses

[tyz]

I am currently running and maintaining the Emercointalk.org community. Since the active has been decreased over the last weeks, I would like to know if the community is still needed. I would like to read your opinion.

[Emerger]

Minting on this coin is very cpu intensive due to bad implementation. The problem is mostly ignored and probably wont be fixed.

It is not true. Wallet feels fine even on old processors.

I find it works great staking on old processor too, even virtual machine. However I think there may be some problem if the amount of UTXO in the wallet is very large. Because, all those many amounts trying to stake separately...

The code for staking is at https://github.com/EvgenijM86/emercoin/blob/master/src/wallet.cpp in function CreateCoinStake. But I don't know enough about C++ to understand all implications.

Hopefully K1773R can explain more about his problem. And if there is a problem for some situations, then perhaps the team will investigate the cause.

yes, this is correct. with time your UXTO set gets big. even if your sending your coins back to yourself to consolidate, it wont help (ie having 1 UXTO). so the minting/stacking code is very bad.
Unfortunately this problem is ignored. may it be due to bad English skills or ignorance, it still an issue and others will hit it too.

In looking at it, I think there is nothing noticeably wrong with EMC's stake implementation. In the CreateCoinStake() of wallet.cpp there are conditions under which the stake will "split" or "combine" UTXO, depending on the amount of coins, etc. So if you have a large balance it may keep splitting until you have so many UTXO that it will begin to create server load (after many months). To remedy this you could send all coins back to yourself every few months of staking, to combine again into a single UTXO. This isn't unusual, I have needed to do this with other POS coins. Another option may be to tweak the split/combine thresholds in wallet.cpp and compile your own daemon that keeps the number of UTXO under control for your situation. Obviously you would need to be very careful about making such a change to the split & combine thresholds.

I am no expert in this just sharing what I see and perhaps there are better answers to your issue. I'm sure the EMC devs will agree that anything to improve EMC's useablility is worth discussion I don't think it is a widespread problem as smaller balances should combine properly but if it is a wider issue then hopefully someone can contribute an improvement to the staking code.

[Emerger]

I am currently running and maintaining the Emercointalk.org community. Since the active has been decreased over the last weeks, I would like to know if the community is still needed. I would like to read your opinion.

I think it's too early to give up on your forum. It may be valuable to have, especially if bitcointalk ever went down. So I hope you leave your forum up. If you have an EMC donation address for the forum I would send a little EMC to help keep the forum alive.

But also I think you should get an SSL certificate so it's secure for logins as currently it seems the SSL cert is invalid e.g. from http://letsencrypt.org/

[K1773R]

Minting on this coin is very cpu intensive due to bad implementation. The problem is mostly ignored and probably wont be fixed.

It is not true. Wallet feels fine even on old processors.

I find it works great staking on old processor too, even virtual machine. However I think there may be some problem if the amount of UTXO in the wallet is very large. Because, all those many amounts trying to stake separately...

The code for staking is at https://github.com/EvgenijM86/emercoin/blob/master/src/wallet.cpp in function CreateCoinStake. But I don't know enough about C++ to understand all implications.

Hopefully K1773R can explain more about his problem. And if there is a problem for some situations, then perhaps the team will investigate the cause.

yes, this is correct. with time your UXTO set gets big. even if your sending your coins back to yourself to consolidate, it wont help (ie having 1 UXTO). so the minting/stacking code is very bad.
Unfortunately this problem is ignored. may it be due to bad English skills or ignorance, it still an issue and others will hit it too.

In looking at it, I think there is nothing noticeably wrong with EMC's stake implementation. In the CreateCoinStake() of wallet.cpp there are conditions under which the stake will "split" or "combine" UTXO, depending on the amount of coins, etc. So if you have a large balance it may keep splitting until you have so many UTXO that it will begin to create server load (after many months). To remedy this you could send all coins back to yourself every few months of staking, to combine again into a single UTXO. This isn't unusual, I have needed to do this with other POS coins. Another option may be to tweak the split/combine thresholds in wallet.cpp and compile your own daemon that keeps the number of UTXO under control for your situation. Obviously you would need to be very careful about making such a change to the split & combine thresholds.

I am no expert in this just sharing what I see and perhaps there are better answers to your issue. I'm sure the EMC devs will agree that anything to improve EMC's useablility is worth discussion I don't think it is a widespread problem as smaller balances should combine properly but if it is a wider issue then hopefully someone can contribute an improvement to the staking code.

besides that sending back and creating 1 UTXO dosnt not help, as i already did mention.

[Emerger]

besides that sending back and creating 1 UTXO dosnt not help, as i already did mention.

I thought that consolidating to 1 UTXO should help, but you say it doesn't. Have you tried any other bug-hunting ideas like creating a new wallet, and sending the coins to it, to compare?

I know you're an early adopter of EMC and you run the first emc explorer. So I think your opinion matters. If we can discover the problem then I am sure the devs will take notice and fix it.

[tyz]

I will keep the forums up.
Thanks for sharing the link. I will looking for good prices in order to get a SSL certification in the next days.

Yes, I have got a donation address for the board. Please send tips to EcwZFZVzZUCLLZ3tFhwRPuQkYzrz6kHFAL

I am currently running and maintaining the Emercointalk.org community. Since the active has been decreased over the last weeks, I would like to know if the community is still needed. I would like to read your opinion.

I think it's too early to give up on your forum. It may be valuable to have, especially if bitcointalk ever went down. So I hope you leave your forum up. If you have an EMC donation address for the forum I would send a little EMC to help keep the forum alive.

But also I think you should get an SSL certificate so it's secure for logins as currently it seems the SSL cert is invalid e.g. from http://letsencrypt.org/