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June 15, 2018, 12:39:09 PM
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We all know, that they do manipulate the market, and until now, it looked like, there is nothing we can do about it. However, the CFTC investigation, announced a couple days ago, may will have some positive effects. It is said, it was the main reason of the recent price drop.

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June 15, 2018, 01:01:00 PM
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I also been thinking about it. Bitcoin is really unstable now that its unstability is kinda not normal (so fast to decline and so fast to rise). If ever this is true, its so sad that people who are buying small amount of bitcoin suffer the most. Its like the poor is becoming more poor and the rich is becoming richer. But we cant do anything about it, they use a lot of money (which really they can afford to buy a lot of coins) just to take advantage of this situation (im not saying this is a fact)
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June 15, 2018, 01:02:51 PM
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The recent hacking of a Korean cryptocurrency exchange caused the price of the bitcoin to go down and some negative events like FUDs can also contributes to the downtrend of the bitcoin. These so called whales or price manipulators are just part of the system that contributes to the price trends of any cryptocurrency.
Personally, I think whales contribute a lot to the downward trend of crypto, it is not only a part as you say, there is no accurate and specific evidence of negative news, I doubt that this is an arrangement from the whale, perhaps they are trying to create the largest wave in the history of crypto. Not only that, they also associate with the exchange sites, this is very clear when the web exchange reacts very quickly to changes in price, from there, we can see the manipulation of the whale is very terrible, it is not as simple as we imagine.

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June 15, 2018, 02:51:15 PM
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I'm not sure they can do that, right now there are thousands of exchanges and millions of users, it is impossible for whales to manipulate the price because the stocks in exchanges are pure.
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June 15, 2018, 02:54:40 PM
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In my opinion, I think whales are manipulating the markets. They have many money so they can do whatever they want. As we can see, it doesnt go above 10k$ and this is probably caused by the whales.

Aside from whales, FUDS are affecting the prices too. FUDS greatly affect prices especially when it came from a popular website.

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June 15, 2018, 02:57:05 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

Whale's will never manipulate the market because they all knew that selling a huge amount of their own ico tokens will make the price to drop and every investors will be highly affected but if the ico is a scam then they will really use the advantage to earn more profit.

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June 15, 2018, 03:20:58 PM
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Well, not the down fall of the market is as a result of 'whales' activities since they have other things doing aside from market manipulation and it is only serious pump and dump that I believe is influence by the 'whale'.   

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June 15, 2018, 04:06:08 PM
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I think they can do this because they have a big money and they are capable to do this but I don't think that the whales will do this in the market because I think they want to make a big profit too. and if somehow, they can make a profit from manipulating the market, then they will do this with ease. but I am sure that there are whales that will not do this and they only want to see the market is on the green sign so they can always make the profit.
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June 15, 2018, 04:22:35 PM
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Yes, I really believe that these whales are or can manipulate the market price of a certain coin. Because of the high-volume of their share on that coin, they can just easily play the market price and they can use that as their advantage and for a possible more profit for these whales.   And for us to be able to make profit also, we have to study the price movement and do our Technical Analysis very well.
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June 15, 2018, 05:07:43 PM
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Whales, Traders and governments controls the markets, and deploy differing tactics in able to move the markets, some even such as fake news, it is all happening right now. I am sure Whales have more to do that sit on a trading platform all day but they probably have some fun there, sometimes...
Actually we don't have enough information and evidence to make this statement correct. However I believe that maybe in some points the statement above is true about the whales referring to the huge traders and some rich mens and governments. But please let's dont forget that the ups and downs of coins in crypto is normal the crypto market was never been stable even before it changes its price every now and then we all know that the demand and supply was the reason. So maybe they have something to do with that but I can't conclude without further information and details.
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June 15, 2018, 05:36:46 PM
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I think A lot of whales are manipulating the market, some people actually try to do it and think they can manipulate even though they are manipulated.
Whales have acquired a large amount of bitcoin that if they decide to hold it, it can contribute a lot in market prices.
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June 15, 2018, 05:44:38 PM
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I always think that whales manipulates by buying a lot when the price is still low and makes the market cap change and the price will go up. when that happens, then they will sell all their assets without any purchase again, and make the price down.
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June 15, 2018, 05:50:30 PM
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Whales, bots, government and fud spreaders are  manipulating the market. Whales want to sell high and buy back at lower price.  Fud spreaders are those people who are against Bitcoin.
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June 15, 2018, 05:57:08 PM
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Whales are the market movers and they have done much changes due to their strong hold and because they have large holding of the specific coin so they have manipulate the market from one side to the other side like the sudden changes in price because of demand and supply.

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June 15, 2018, 07:05:42 PM
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I also been thinking about it. Bitcoin is really unstable now that its unstability is kinda not normal (so fast to decline and so fast to rise). If ever this is true, its so sad that people who are buying small amount of bitcoin suffer the most. Its like the poor is becoming more poor and the rich is becoming richer. But we cant do anything about it, they use a lot of money (which really they can afford to buy a lot of coins) just to take advantage of this situation (im not saying this is a fact)

Yes, the whales are always manipulating the markets, its always been like that ever since I started in crypto, the cause of bitcoin downtrend is the speculations of some people as well as the media behind those fake news about bitcoin downfall and end of crypto currency , it is impossible to think it that way because of sudden decrease in market, it is not the end of crypto currency or the bitcoin itself, remember last year is the same scenario and until now the bitcoin is still alive.
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June 15, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
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wall street investors are manipulating the market in large and whales too have large proportion of funds to manipulate the market in one side we can see the bull market when market responds to positive news
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June 15, 2018, 07:28:47 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

Whales should not manipulate the market because selling a huge amount of coins coming from their own ico will dump the price of their own and the project will just become a fail, if the developer is serious about their project then those whales will not sell their coins.

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June 16, 2018, 06:51:22 AM
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So far that is what I have on my mind because they have that capability to control the market.
Yeah you are right. Whales are the big investors and they hold the big quantity of bitcoin and they are able to affect the price and they are doing so. Due to huge investment they manipulate the market and thus earn huge profits according to their well. They have no care about the rest of investors they are making profits or losing money. They only think of themselves.
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June 16, 2018, 08:58:18 AM
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Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price.
I have noticed this kind of person and he is one of my friends, lately, he sold out his all coins when the market starting a bloodbath.
Maybe one of these days he realized that he has a wrong decision.

Who says that the market can't manipulate by the whales?
I think they have the power to do that by paying those media broadcasters to keep spreading a FUD news that gives a negative image to the bitcoin or all crypto. Small bitcoin holders easily panic selling that's the time the whale had a big laugh because they bought at the lowered price they know that after a month the price will back to a normal price.

I think the main lever for manipulating the price is not spreading a FUD news because only regular users(not whales) can be affected by that. And when regular users start selling, this actually has almost no impact on the market and thus can't ignite massive panic selling. What the whales do is they start selling themselves. Only when the whales are selling the price falling is becoming noticeable and only after that the massive panic selling starts.

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June 16, 2018, 09:14:54 AM
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It is possible for the whales to manipulate the market as far as I remember there is an on-going investigation about these issue, they called as coordinated whales who allegedly trying to manipulate the market of Cryptocurrency because they hold large of amount of the coins.

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