{BFL} WHAT THE!! ButterflyLads WONT deliver the Monarch Till...ONLY GOD KNOWs?:(

[LittleD]

That's No Surprise!

Informations:
Thema: Monarch Information
from BFL_Josh:
There's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date), so this should only affect the earliest customers, who we've already contacted with regards to the delay. The majority of customers should not be affected much, if at all.
 When I have a specific date from the foundry, I will post an update here with a revised timeline. We still expect to ship the bulk of the orders in/around February. Anyone ordering now will probably not get their order until March or April, just as an FYI and in the spirit of trying to keep realistic expectations on shipping times.
 Due to the delay for the earliest people, the ones affected will be upgraded to the watercooled version for FREE. The watercooled Monarch will be a closed loop system, so no maintenance will be required.
 BFL_Josh 12-09-2013, 03:30 PM at BFL:
Last week, we met with the foundry to go over details of the delay and reach a definitive conclusion. According to the foundry, we should have the first chips on January 9th (still determining specific quantity), but we will be taking delivery of more wafers every week after that, so it really shouldn't affect anything as far as wafer availability goes, regardless of how many come on the 9th.
At that point, chips are shipped to slicing, packaging and bumping, which is estimated to take roughly a week. After that, they are sent to our ASIC design team for testing. This may take up to a week, possibly longer but we believe it will be less than a week for chip bring up. Once the chip(s) are verified working and properly binned, they are sent to our facility in Chicago for mounting on boards and send to several places for more testing and final firmware programming. This should take another week or so. Once that is completed, we will begin shipping product - during this entire time, more wafers will be rolling off the line and going through the same process, so we should have plenty of chips available and ready to go by the time the units are actually ready to be shipped. I don't yet know what that count will be specifically, but it should be a fairly significant portion of the pre-orders. At this point, it looks like the only hold would pose a problem is if the chip didn't work properly for some reason, but we have no reason to believe that is going to be a problem, as the chip is based on our proven 65nm desgin.
 As usual, all of these times and dates are estimates only. It may take more time, it may take less time for each step, but that is the timeline we are working under right now, but it is subject to change. Right now, the plan is for everyone that has a current pre-order, you will be upgraded to the water cooled version of the Monarch for free to compensate for the slight delay.

[Moebius327]

Please add April 2015.

[bitcoinpsftp]

Are you allowed to cancel orders?  I mean, delays like this, with new difficulties and teh works, really make the investment pay lower than originally calculated.  Do they offer reimbursement for delayed products?

[beetcoin]

their motto should be:

"When you go with BFL, you'll see some Big Fucking Losses"

[bitcoinpsftp]

their motto should be:

"When you go with BFL, you'll see some Big Fucking Losses"

I had to LOL at this.  Has there ever, historically, been a time where buying mining rigs is more profitable than just spending the same money on coins?  I'm quite curious.

[jbreher]

Faulty poll is faulty. No option for 'in two weeks^[tm]'

[bitcoinpsftp]

BFL should start to be associated with the company VALVE.  If anyone is familiar, there is a very well known term called "Valve time".  When valve says "coming out in the next few weeks", it's not unknown to take over a year.  Soon we'llb e working with BFL times

[LittleD]

Faulty poll is faulty. No option for 'in two weeks^[tm]'

come on, come on let be real here! lol 

[worldtreasurefinders]

Has there ever, historically, been a time where buying mining rigs is more profitable than just spending the same money on coins?  I'm quite curious.

I can share my personal experience which is a resounding NO!  I pre-ordered a 30 gh/s rig back in March '13 for $689, with expected delivery within a few months.  At that time BTC were trading for appx. $40 each.  I could have bought over 17 BTC for that money, but the lure of 30 gh/s promised much, much more.  Of course, by the time I got my rig in November, I could only mine 0.05 BTC per day.  Today I get 0.015 per day.  I'm never, ever going to make my money back, and the lesson is, if you are considering buying a BFL product, just buy BTC instead.

[tom_o]

Please add April 2015.

This.

[LittleD]

Heres BFL_Josh trusted feedback link. Please give him a Trusted feedback

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63314

Also Here's Inaba trusted feedback link. Please give him a Trusted feedback as-well

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=8198

[Flying Hellfish]

Are you allowed to cancel orders? 

LOL no

Do they offer reimbursement for delayed products?

LOL fuck NO

Once you give them your BTC or $ they ain't giving it back for sweet fuck all.

[AmericanBit]

No one has burned BFL down yet and pissed on the ashes? Thought for sure someone would go postal on that place

[Xian01]

Heres BFL_Josh trusted feedback link. Please give him a Trusted feedback
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63314

I might recommend linking Josh Zerlan's "Inaba" account as well, which is practically Butterfly Labs' official mouthpiece on these forums.

[FeedbackLoop]

No 2015 option?

[LittleD]

No one has burned BFL down yet and pissed on the ashes? Thought for sure someone would go postal on that place

we are the civilize people here!  

[Paladin69]

Sometimes it feels like BFL is set up to be the retard hardware company on purpose.  A plot by all asic manufacturers so the diff doesn't scream up any faster than it already is.

1. Be the most visible marketing wise to gather the most customers.
2. Hold customer money to keep the majority from mining.
3. Don't ship until it doesn't matter.

[Cryptolator]

Seriously, what did you expect !?

[HarrisonS]

Oh wow, March or April. I was expecting much later.

[Operatr]

How many times does this have to happen before everyone stops giving them money....

In March it will be April, in April it will be "in two weeks!" for months.