{BFL} WHAT THE!! ButterflyLads WONT deliver the Monarch Till...ONLY GOD KNOWs?:(

[sbogovac]

Hey, I'm open to suggestions; if anyone's got a better product from another manufacturer in mind just say so.

But in the mean time this (Monarch) seems to be offering the most GH/$...

All other hardware that seems to get there is also on pre-order. Same difference it seems to me...

Suggestions?

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[sbogovac]

if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..

A scam?!? You're joking, right? You can say a lot of things (both positive and negative) about them, but how do you get to that?!?

I'm looking at my BFL single happily hashing away right now (and If you look around at this forum you'll find a lot of people using their HardWare.

As far as their "official thread", you can find it at the official thread: https://forums.butterflylabs.com

[Operatr]

if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..

A scam?!? You're joking, right? You can say a lot of things (both positive and negative) about them, but how do you get to that?!?

I'm looking at my BFL single happily hashing away right now (and If you look around at this forum you'll find a lot of people using their HardWare.

As far as their "official thread", you can find it at the official thread: https://forums.butterflylabs.com

Do a forum search for Butterfly Labs, and you will get a quick picture why miners who have been around a while despise them. Lies and misdirection are business as usual.

[sbogovac]

if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..

A scam?!? You're joking, right? You can say a lot of things (both positive and negative) about them, but how do you get to that?!?

I'm looking at my BFL single happily hashing away right now (and If you look around at this forum you'll find a lot of people using their HardWare.

As far as their "official thread", you can find it at the official thread: https://forums.butterflylabs.com

Do a forum search for Butterfly Labs, and you will get a quick picture why miners who have been around a while despise them. Lies and misdirection are business as usual.

I did before I even ordered my first product from them and I must say that most "miners who have been around a while" sound like a bunch of spoiled brats IMHO... (<- Opinion)

But there is definitely a difference between despising and scamming we can agree, right?

[dropt]

if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..

A scam?!? You're joking, right? You can say a lot of things (both positive and negative) about them, but how do you get to that?!?

I'm looking at my BFL single happily hashing away right now (and If you look around at this forum you'll find a lot of people using their HardWare.

As far as their "official thread", you can find it at the official thread: https://forums.butterflylabs.com

Do a forum search for Butterfly Labs, and you will get a quick picture why miners who have been around a while despise them. Lies and misdirection are business as usual.

I did before I even ordered my first product from them and I must say that most "miners who have been around a while" sound like a bunch of spoiled brats IMHO... (<- Opinion)

But there is definitely a difference between despising and scamming we can agree, right?

First, the Jalepeno is not a USB powered coffee warmer, so you can start with your scam research right there.

Second, mining was never supposed to be a get rich quick scheme.  The majority of the "old time" posters you're referencing are members that joined following the April 2013 bubble.  If you want to see how "old" posters used to post, follow DeathAndTaxes.

BFL deserves every bit of what you see here.

[sbogovac]

if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..

A scam?!? You're joking, right? You can say a lot of things (both positive and negative) about them, but how do you get to that?!?

I'm looking at my BFL single happily hashing away right now (and If you look around at this forum you'll find a lot of people using their HardWare.

As far as their "official thread", you can find it at the official thread: https://forums.butterflylabs.com

Do a forum search for Butterfly Labs, and you will get a quick picture why miners who have been around a while despise them. Lies and misdirection are business as usual.

I did before I even ordered my first product from them and I must say that most "miners who have been around a while" sound like a bunch of spoiled brats IMHO... (<- Opinion)

But there is definitely a difference between despising and scamming we can agree, right?

First, the Jalepeno is not a USB powered coffee warmer, so you can start with your scam research right there.

Second, mining was never supposed to be a get rich quick scheme.  The majority of the "old time" posters you're referencing are members that joined following the April 2013 bubble.  If you want to see how "old" posters used to post, follow DeathAndTaxes.

I am definitely willing to make the distinction between the "get-rich-quick-generation" (or as I described them: the "spoiled brats") and the "old timers" (hey, YOUR words)...

And while the former tend to be a bit "spoiled" in their view of the world, the latter tend to be a bit too "idealistic" (nothing wrong with idealism, but Hardware Manufacturers ARE businesses, right?).

As I said before: I'm open to suggestions, if someone knows of a manufacturer who's offering better GH/$ I would be glad to look into them...

[dropt]

if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..

A scam?!? You're joking, right? You can say a lot of things (both positive and negative) about them, but how do you get to that?!?

I'm looking at my BFL single happily hashing away right now (and If you look around at this forum you'll find a lot of people using their HardWare.

As far as their "official thread", you can find it at the official thread: https://forums.butterflylabs.com

Do a forum search for Butterfly Labs, and you will get a quick picture why miners who have been around a while despise them. Lies and misdirection are business as usual.

I did before I even ordered my first product from them and I must say that most "miners who have been around a while" sound like a bunch of spoiled brats IMHO... (<- Opinion)

But there is definitely a difference between despising and scamming we can agree, right?

First, the Jalepeno is not a USB powered coffee warmer, so you can start with your scam research right there.

Second, mining was never supposed to be a get rich quick scheme.  The majority of the "old time" posters you're referencing are members that joined following the April 2013 bubble.  If you want to see how "old" posters used to post, follow DeathAndTaxes.

I am definitely willing to make the distinction between the "get-rich-quick-generation" (or as I described them: the "spoiled brats") and the "old timers" (hey, YOUR words)...

And while the former tend to be a bit "spoiled" in their view of the world, the latter tend to be a bit too "idealistic" (nothing wrong with idealism, but Hardware Manufacturers ARE businesses, right?).

As I said before: I'm open to suggestions, if someone knows of a manufacturer who's offering better GH/$ I would be glad to look into them...

Too idealistic? Maybe,  I'd suggest looking at the types of people that were involved/started the bitcoin experiment and that shed some light on their idealistic views.

Bitmaintech.com

[Syke]

As I said before: I'm open to suggestions, if someone knows of a manufacturer who's offering better GH/$ I would be glad to look into them...

The Monarch delivered months from now is far more expensive than something with slightly higher price delivered immediately, like Bitmain Antminers.

[sbogovac]

Did look into Bitmain. Current products don't go past 200GH.  Do have a good GH/$ ratio NOW, but hindsight is always 20:20. And they are SOLD OUT, have been for weeks now... Worse yet: no new & improved products coming up... next please...

[dropt]

Did look into Bitmain. Current products don't go past 200GH.

Then buy more than one.

Do have a good GH/$ ration NOW, but hindsight is always 20:20.

Why are you comparing the power usage of an existing device against the bullshit number that BFL have posted with any sort of confidence?  They received eng. sample chip a couple weeks back and they still haven't posted any test results.  The last time this happened for BFL their >1W/GH turned into 6W/GH.

But they are SOLD OUT, and have been for weeks now... And no new products coming up...

No they're not.  I just checked myself.

Worse yet: no new & improved products coming up...

How do you know?  No one knew about Bitmain and their S1's until a week or two before they opened up sales.  Bitmain doesn't do pre-sales and have proven to be quite tight lipped on their development strategies.  If they're working on something new, you're not going to know about it until it's ready to ship.

 next please...

It appears as though you're dead set on ignoring all the information in front of you.  Go ahead and buy the BFL Monarch cards, be our guest.  However, you best not come back here acting like one of the "spoiled brats" when you find out you were lied to and lost all possible hopes of making your money back.

[Syke]

Your loss. Antminers will earn more profit than any other product available. 3x 200 GH/s units is the same as 1x 600 GH/s unit.

In stock and will ship in the next day or two: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140107162747992Ce5uBuxW06D6

Unbeatable deal. Period.

[sbogovac]

As I said Syke (and - later added - Dropt): Hindsight is always 20:20...

[dropt]

As I said Syke (and - later added - Dropt): Hindsight is always 20:20...

Understood.  Good luck, I hope there's some positive news in the near future.

[Unacceptable]

Your loss. Antminers will earn more profit than any other product available. 3x 200 GH/s units is the same as 1x 600 GH/s unit.

In stock and will ship in the next day or two: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140107162747992Ce5uBuxW06D6

Unbeatable deal. Period.

2 more choices to buy Bitmain Antminers from in the US:

https://ninjatech.org/index.php?route=common/home

https://www.112bit.com/shop/

I've bought from both & had a VERY good experience with each of them 

[Syke]

2 more choices to buy Bitmain Antminers from in the US:

https://ninjatech.org/index.php?route=common/home

https://www.112bit.com/shop/

I've bought from both & had a VERY good experience with each of them 

Just saw the price at 112bit. Very good!

[LittleD]

More promises from your favorite guy "JOSH":

"Yes, and I'm working on getting additional benefits for those that paid $4k for the cards. I don't want to reveal any specifics yet, but we will hopefully be able to take care of the customers appropriately."

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/7946-2014-feb-18-monarch-discussion-7.html

Promising more lie so that customer wont file lawsuits!!!

Butterlylabs will the next onces filling for bankruptcy I can see the future ! 

[Tigggger]

More promises from your favorite guy "JOSH":

"Yes, and I'm working on getting additional benefits for those that paid $4k for the cards. I don't want to reveal any specifics yet, but we will hopefully be able to take care of the customers appropriately."

It's a promise to only pre-mine on it for a month

or

It's a discount on the 1000W PSU that will be needed to power the thing when they inevitably miss the power specs

or

It's a free 2015 calendar with all the expected delivery dates pre-printed

or

.....

[Unacceptable]

More promises from your favorite guy "JOSH":

"Yes, and I'm working on getting additional benefits for those that paid $4k for the cards. I don't want to reveal any specifics yet, but we will hopefully be able to take care of the customers appropriately."

It's a promise to only pre-mine on it for a month

or

It's a discount on the 1000W PSU that will be needed to power the thing when they inevitably miss the power specs

or

It's a free 2015 calendar with all the expected delivery dates pre-printed

or

Butterfly Labs coffee mugs & FREE WATERCOOLING RADS & PUMP & HOSES water not included

FTFY  

BTW,I have 600GH of Ants & LOVE EM!!!!!!!!!!! Got another one coming next week 

[mruiter]

Just to let you guys now. Monarch Will never come.
Bfl is out off. business, look at there website...

Plain empty just like gox

[Syke]

Another month bites the dust, and no Monarch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U