Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

[robbylove]

[Ecorpcoin]

It didn't take me long to realize this isn't a bigotry or being unobjective, it's that the science no longer is valid to justify climate change denial and that's that. We cannot risk having uninformed people being influenced by faulty science, at least that's my  $0.02 on the issue..

[Spendulus]

It didn't take me long to realize this isn't a bigotry or being unobjective, it's that the science no longer is valid to justify climate change denial and that's that. We cannot risk having uninformed people being influenced by faulty science, at least that's my  $0.02 on the issue..

How about trying to write just one, clear, simple sentence?

[Rumor]

If these banned posters were just being trolls, then I have no problem with it. I mean these posters are staring at scientific evidence in the face and denying its truth and validity in a science forum itself.

[robbylove]

If these banned posters were just being trolls, then I have no problem with it. I mean these posters are staring at scientific evidence in the face and denying its truth and validity in a science forum itself.

Can you be a scientist and believe Global warming is not science fact?

Do you believe Bill Nye is a science guy?

[Spendulus]

If these banned posters were just being trolls, then I have no problem with it. I mean these posters are staring at scientific evidence in the face and denying its truth and validity in a science forum itself.

Sez who?

Methinks it is the Reddit forum and it's moderators that are denying science. Most of the posts there are auto generated by the forum moderators, and most are pure propaganda.

However, let's assume you are correct, and some poster stared scientific evidence in the fact and denied its truth and validity. Let's say he vigorously defended his incorrect position, and all of the Reddit moderators and visitors were unable to argue down the convincing presentations made.

That's called DEBATE.

In the absence of that, you don't have a science forum. You have a forum ran by Deniers of Science.

So here you go, buddy.

The crust of the earth is elastic, which is obvious because gravity has formed it into a near sphere. Worry about sea level rise is groundless, because whether the h20 is ice or water, the same weight pushes inward, and the forces will equalize. A bit more weight, a bit more compression, and hence there will be no sea level rise, even if all of Greenland were to melt.

Either refute this with science, or shut the fuck up.

[notbatman]

If these banned posters were just being trolls, then I have no problem with it. I mean these posters are staring at scientific evidence in the face and denying its truth and validity in a science forum itself.

Sez who?

Methinks it is the Reddit forum and it's moderators that are denying science. Most of the posts there are auto generated by the forum moderators, and most are pure propaganda.

However, let's assume you are correct, and some poster stared scientific evidence in the fact and denied its truth and validity. Let's say he vigorously defended his incorrect position, and all of the Reddit moderators and visitors were unable to argue down the convincing presentations made.

That's called DEBATE.

In the absence of that, you don't have a science forum. You have a forum ran by Deniers of Science.

So here you go, buddy.

The crust of the earth is elastic, which is obvious because gravity has formed it into a near sphere. Worry about sea level rise is groundless, because whether the h20 is ice or water, the same weight pushes inward, and the forces will equalize. A bit more weight, a bit more compression, and hence there will be no sea level rise, even if all of Greenland were to melt.

Either refute this with science, or shut the fuck up.

Gravity is bullshit,  it's an unproven theory.

[Spendulus]

If these banned posters were just being trolls, then I have no problem with it. I mean these posters are staring at scientific evidence in the face and denying its truth and validity in a science forum itself.

Sez who?

Methinks it is the Reddit forum and it's moderators that are denying science. Most of the posts there are auto generated by the forum moderators, and most are pure propaganda.

However, let's assume you are correct, and some poster stared scientific evidence in the fact and denied its truth and validity. Let's say he vigorously defended his incorrect position, and all of the Reddit moderators and visitors were unable to argue down the convincing presentations made.

That's called DEBATE.

In the absence of that, you don't have a science forum. You have a forum ran by Deniers of Science.

So here you go, buddy.

The crust of the earth is elastic, which is obvious because gravity has formed it into a near sphere. Worry about sea level rise is groundless, because whether the h20 is ice or water, the same weight pushes inward, and the forces will equalize. A bit more weight, a bit more compression, and hence there will be no sea level rise, even if all of Greenland were to melt.

Either refute this with science, or shut the fuck up.

Gravity is bullshit,  it's an unproven theory.

You are going to have trouble proving gravity is actually excreted from bulls.

[robbylove]

Study Blames Global Warming, Not Cell Phones, For Spike In Car Accident Deaths

Global warming was responsible for thousands of road deaths in 2015, according to a new study, contradicting many public safety experts who blame increased cell phone use for the spike in traffic fatalities.

“As temperatures continue to increase from heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, road deaths will likely increase more than expected unless there are major mitigating countermeasures,” retired Yale University epidemiologist Leon Robertson said in a statement.

Traffic deaths rose by 2,348, or 7.2 percent, in 2015 to 35,200, according to Transportation Department data. Robertson said rising temperatures and increased rainfall had people driving more miles than they would have otherwise, leading to more deaths.

“If millions more people drive cars because the temperature is getting warmer … then that adds up to a lot of miles,” Robertson told the Thomson Reuters Foundation. “Mainly it’s a simple multiplication.”



http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/study-blames-global-warming-not-cell-phones-for-spike-in-car-accident-deaths/

[Spendulus]

.....Robertson said rising temperatures and increased rainfall had people driving more miles than they would have otherwise, leading to more deaths.

This problem is easily solved.

Just change the unit of miles to kilometer.

There will be FEWER deaths per kilometer so everything's okay.

[robbylove]

Collusion: Jerry Brown Going to Russia Conference Hosted by Putin



California Governor Jerry Brown is flying to Vladivostok Sunday for an economic cooperation conference hosted by Russian President Vladimir Putin, where the governor plans to promote decarbonizing investments.

Despite hydrocarbons being 70 percent of Russia’s exports, and 50 percent of government revenues, Brown will self-represent the United States to promote what he refers to as sustainable investments in de-carbonizing the planet.

Brown is scheduled to participate on a panel on September 6 titled: “The Russia-China-Japan-U.S. Quadrangle: Are There Opportunities for Cooperation?” President Vladimir Putin will host the conference and give the opening speech. It is unknown if Brown will meet privately with Putin.[…]

Brown has been jetting around the planet over the last couple years to promote climate change and a planet with a smaller carbon footprint in Paris, Bonn, Beijing, Quebec, Mexico City and now Vladivostok. His travel has been paid for by the California State Protocol Foundation. CSPF grants for Brown’s travel appear to have been funded by a $100,000 grant from the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation’s social justice investing.


http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/09/03/cal-gov-brown-going-to-russia-conference-hosted-by-putin/


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Maybe he should drink less carbonated water on board of the planes he took on his many trips around the globe... to save the planet.

[robbylove]

Scientist Outsells Gore On Kindle

Former Vice President Al Gore’s new book is lagging in sales, and, in fact, is being outsold on Amazon Kindle by an e-book debunking many of the claims made in “An Inconvenient Sequel.”

Climatologist Roy Spencer authored an e-book “An Inconvenient Deception” to critique the “bad science, bad policy and some outright falsehoods” in Gore’s latest movie and book, which were released in August. Now, it’s ranked higher in Amazon’s Kindle store.

“There are three big weaknesses in Gore’s new movie: science, economics and energy policy,” Spencer, a noted skeptic of catastrophic global warming, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

Gore released the sequel to his widely popular 2006 film “An Inconvenient Truth” in August, embarking on a media tour to promote the book and film. But so far, ticket sales have lagged, and even left-wing reviewers have harshly criticized the film.

The e-book published to accompany Gore’s film is ranked #51,031 for purchases in the Kindle Store, according to Amazon.com. Spencer’s book is ranked #1,201 for Kindle Store purchases.

On the media circuit, Gore repeatedly said “every night on the network news is like a nature hike through the Book of Revelations.” His movie points to extreme weather events as evidence of man-made global warming, including the drought in Syria.

“It’s wrong because everything Gore shows in the new movie happens naturally,” said Spencer, who’s been studying Earth’s climate for decades.



http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/04/al-gore-outsold-on-kindle-by-an-e-book-debunking-an-inconvenient-sequel/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[Spendulus]

Scientist Outsells Gore On Kindle



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“It’s wrong because everything Gore shows in the new movie happens naturally,” said Spencer, who’s been studying Earth’s climate for decades.



http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/04/al-gore-outsold-on-kindle-by-an-e-book-debunking-an-inconvenient-sequel/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

So ManBearPig's idiocy is at last apparent?

[robbylove]

Scientist Outsells Gore On Kindle



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“It’s wrong because everything Gore shows in the new movie happens naturally,” said Spencer, who’s been studying Earth’s climate for decades.



http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/04/al-gore-outsold-on-kindle-by-an-e-book-debunking-an-inconvenient-sequel/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

So ManBearPig's idiocy is at last apparent?

I would be cautiously optimistic to believe so, but how old is this thread already... The fight for changing people's mind is half never ending, half mind melding, and half thankless...

[BitcoinPC]

Why are we discussing this in terms of cryptocurrency.
It really has nothing to do with it you're talking about a totally different website and not this website.

[robbylove]

Why are we discussing this in terms of cryptocurrency.
It really has nothing to do with it you're talking about a totally different website and not this website.

You mean you are not willing to pay your carbon footprint white male privilege taxes with your BTCBTCBTC to the GoreEX Corp? Think of the children. And Al's multiple homes and SUVs.

A subject about a total control of your life, the way you breathe, eat and move around the planet does not belong to "Politics and Society"?

Obviously you hate the planet, and anything green and fluffy that grows deep in the Amazon, or deep anywhere else.

[tvbcof]

Why are we discussing this in terms of cryptocurrency.
It really has nothing to do with it you're talking about a totally different website and not this website.

I believe that this subject is startlingly on-target.

Many people know that debt-based monetary systems have a life expectancy dictated by fundamental mathematics.  They need a periodic re-set.  Many people feel that the USD system is near that point.

It looks to me like what is happening is a tussle between several fairly powerful groups:

  1) re-set with yet another debt-based monetary system.

  2) Try a resource-backed monetary system with the resource being energy.

The 2nd group is the driving force behind the climate scam, but they have to engineer a situation which aligns with their doctrine.  Specifically, they need energy to be a scarce and valuable thing (and they need centralized control of it.)  Basically they need to make "Hubbert's Peak" fit since it is what their plans are built on, but the problem is that newer technology keeps popping up and there is plenty of the old stuff (coal, solar, hydro, etc) still around.  This energy-based monetary system was the key element of the 'Technocracy' movement from the 1930's.

Worth note is that #1 works best in a capitalist or free-market environment.  #2 requires a totalitarian environment such as socialism/communism.

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There is a 3rd and most important group:

  3)  Just finance both sides.  This is a winning strategy is well proven and effective.  We've seen it in most notably in wars were a certain group finances both sides.  This is so effective and so lucrative that this group pretty much dominates large segments of the human condition at this point.

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There is also a nearly non-existent 4th group:

  4)  the so-called 'sound money' crowd.  This would be finite-source-backed monetary solution.  Gold and crypto-currency are in this category.  Although it is very possible to 'sweep the table' by controlling gold in a gold-backed system, gaming more flexible systems makes it easier and more durable to keep the game going.  

Crypto, on the other hand, is a nasty beast.  When one player accumulates all the crypto, the rest of the players just make a new one and start playing again.

[robbylove]

Why are we discussing this in terms of cryptocurrency.
It really has nothing to do with it you're talking about a totally different website and not this website.

I believe that this subject is startlingly on-target.

Many people know that debt-based monetary systems have a life expectancy dictated by fundamental mathematics.  They need a periodic re-set.  Many people feel that the USD system is near that point.

It looks to me like what is happening is a tussle between several fairly powerful groups:

  1) re-set with yet another debt-based monetary system.

  2) Try a resource-backed monetary system with the resource being energy.

The 2nd group is the driving force behind the climate scam, but they have to engineer a situation which aligns with their doctrine.  Specifically, they need energy to be a scarce and valuable thing (and they need centralized control of it.)  Basically they need to make "Hubbert's Peak" fit since it is what their plans are built on, but the problem is that newer technology keeps popping up and there is plenty of the old stuff (coal, solar, hydro, etc) still around.  This energy-based monetary system was the key element of the 'Technocracy' movement from the 1930's.

Worth note is that #1 works best in a capitalist or free-market environment.  #2 requires a totalitarian environment such as socialism/communism.

---
There is a 3rd and most important group:

  3)  Just finance both sides.  This is a winning strategy is well proven and effective.  We've seen it in most notably in wars were a certain group finances both sides.  This is so effective and so lucrative that this group pretty much dominates large segments of the human condition at this point.

---
There is also a nearly non-existent 4th group:

  4)  the so-called 'sound money' crowd.  This would be finite-source-backed monetary solution.  Gold and crypto-currency are in this category.  Although it is very possible to 'sweep the table' by controlling gold in a gold-backed system, gaming more flexible systems makes it easier and more durable to keep the game going.  

Crypto, on the other hand, is a nasty beast.  When one player accumulates all the crypto, the rest of the players just make a new one and start playing again.

A crypto based on the random mathematical output of Jupiter's cloud shapes could be the answer for another 4 billion years. Until  players create a new crypto based the Sun's light rays.

Climate change cryptos

 

[tvbcof]

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There is also a nearly non-existent 4th group:

  4)  the so-called 'sound money' crowd.  This would be finite-source-backed monetary solution.  Gold and crypto-currency are in this category.  Although it is very possible to 'sweep the table' by controlling gold in a gold-backed system, gaming more flexible systems makes it easier and more durable to keep the game going.  

Crypto, on the other hand, is a nasty beast.  When one player accumulates all the crypto, the rest of the players just make a new one and start playing again.

A crypto based on the random mathematical output of Jupiter's cloud shapes could be the answer for another 4 billion years. Until  players create a new crypto based the Sun's light rays.

Climate change cryptos

In fact the blocks of a blockchain could be locked by anything.  It is interesting to me that Satoshi choose an energy backed POW method, and indeed it is probably the strongest of the relatively weak indications that Bitcoin was a project of bankster/CIA scum or whatever.

Again, the thing which really fascinated me about crypto early on is that, paradoxically, it's strength is that it CAN easily fail.  Failure is inevitable if it is abused in the real world.  In a capitalist system any solution will see the winners ending up with all the chips, but the chips in crypto-land can be turned into piles of shit at will by the losers.  This differentiates it from gold (where although possible, the failure mechanics are simply less practical.)

The hopeful outcome in a distributed crypto-currency environment is that the currency itself is a neutral force of nature free of manipulation.  This levels the play field to a degree.  The 'chips' in this case weigh to some other form (land, resources, intellectual property, etc.)

[robbylove]

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There is also a nearly non-existent 4th group:

  4)  the so-called 'sound money' crowd.  This would be finite-source-backed monetary solution.  Gold and crypto-currency are in this category.  Although it is very possible to 'sweep the table' by controlling gold in a gold-backed system, gaming more flexible systems makes it easier and more durable to keep the game going.  

Crypto, on the other hand, is a nasty beast.  When one player accumulates all the crypto, the rest of the players just make a new one and start playing again.

A crypto based on the random mathematical output of Jupiter's cloud shapes could be the answer for another 4 billion years. Until  players create a new crypto based the Sun's light rays.

Climate change cryptos

In fact the blocks of a blockchain could be locked by anything.  It is interesting to me that Satoshi choose an energy backed POW method, and indeed it is probably the strongest of the relatively weak indications that Bitcoin was a project of bankster/CIA scum or whatever.

Again, the thing which really fascinated me about crypto early on is that, paradoxically, it's strength is that it CAN easily fail.  Failure is inevitable if it is abused in the real world.  In a capitalist system any solution will see the winners ending up with all the chips, but the chips in crypto-land can be turned into piles of shit at will by the losers.  This differentiates it from gold (where although possible, the failure mechanics are simply less practical.)

The hopeful outcome in a distributed crypto-currency environment is that the currency itself is a neutral force of nature free of manipulation.  This levels the play field to a degree.  The 'chips' in this case weigh to some other form (land, resources, intellectual property, etc.)

Yes. Nothing is forever. People used to show off how rich and powerful they were by the amount of aluminum they owned, hundreds of years ago. The same could happen with gold if Alphabet Corp can mine asteroids as they plan to do, for example. The "system" wants you to be ready all the time, or you die. Same game since the creation of everything. Everything will fail eventually.