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July 01, 2018, 02:06:02 AM
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It is impossible for the government to track the BTC, whose address does not correspond to citizens' information, and which is global and anonymous.
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July 01, 2018, 02:52:09 AM
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Bitcoin is sometimes thought of as the prime anonymous cash of the Internet, believed to be as untraceable as an under-the-table payment to a babysitter or a drug dealer. But the dramatic trial of Ross Ulbricht, a 30-year-old man accused of running the contraband Silk Road marketplace, is finally putting those misconceptions to rest.
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July 01, 2018, 03:38:33 AM
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Yeah i agree bitcoin holders are hard to trace of the government authorities because or their anonymous currency, di not use exchange asking kyc, kyc is tracing the involvement of cryptocurrency holders to protect about anti money laundering law.
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July 01, 2018, 04:12:42 AM
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The government can track your bitcoin if you are making cashouts through a registered fiat exchange. Unless you are making cashouts thru peer to peer transaction. 
There's nothing impossible if the government wants to do. Well as long as bitcoin is not in government's control then they can't trace if you have a bitcoin account. It will only be possible if bitcoin become centralized and the government will take over of it. Government power over bitcoin will trace your account if happens.

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July 01, 2018, 04:57:11 AM
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The government can track your bitcoin if you are making cashouts through a registered fiat exchange. Unless you are making cashouts thru peer to peer transaction. 
There's nothing impossible if the government wants to do. Well as long as bitcoin is not in government's control then they can't trace if you have a bitcoin account. It will only be possible if bitcoin become centralized and the government will take over of it. Government power over bitcoin will trace your account if happens.
If you do not do any illegal with bitcoin, there is no need to worry. Doing cashouts on exchange really needs your information before processing it and that can be a way that government can track those who used bitcoin and who have it though they cannot control it because it is decentralized.

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July 01, 2018, 05:11:20 AM
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?




Actually I do not know how can a government trace if we have bitcoin because in making a bitcoin account you just need a google to have it and there is no verification needed.
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July 01, 2018, 05:13:47 AM
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?

You should avoid reusing addresses. You should also be careful to use coin control: remember that signing transactions with outputs from multiple addresses associates all those addresses together.

You should always use IP address obfuscation when broadcasting transactions to the network. You can push raw transactions over TOR using a push service like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or you can connect to the network through a good VPN.

Bitcoin transactions are anonymous. As long as you don't reveal your identity, no one know you are a bitcoin holder.
For this purpose you have to buy bitcoin peer to peer from a person you trust. Never use exchanges that force you to verify your identity.

Bitcoin transactions are not anonymous. They are pseudonymous. Even if you never fully verify your identity with an exchange, things like IP addresses, cookies and PII like physical addresses (e.g. if you've bought an Amazon gift card with BTC and had something shipped to your home) can be used to identify you. Lots of PII gets leaked when dealing with third parties via web browser. And if blockchain analysis companies (working with governments) can identify one or two of your used addresses, clustering techniques may allow them to map much of your transaction history.

Be careful out there!

Meaning we are traceable in other forms of transaction like delivery goods,  so let's not do anything bad against governments laws  for us not to be arrested will be contented enough for the profits we earned from bitcoin .
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July 01, 2018, 05:21:23 AM
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its really tough but govt will not track you if you are not smuggler.through your identity govt will find you but decentralized exhange will never give your info to govt.

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July 01, 2018, 05:30:57 AM
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?

There a lot of angles that will cause this but I think the basic reasons is by telling them that you have Bitcoin, the local Bitcoin exchange that you are using is raided by the Government and demanded full authority of the confidential data of their customers then obviously they will eventually trace you.



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July 01, 2018, 05:32:51 AM
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?

Well for me the government will discover bitcoin unless their is an investor who report it to the police. And it will trace it because of the information they gave. Government can not control to banned bitcoin from the users. Especially if it gave a big profit to the users.

Just like what @gesdan say Bitcoin can not be trace because it is universal. And it can only trace through the history of your web. And unless you give your bitcoin information online or posting in social media because it can attract to the people who will read it. And the government did not do any actions if you did not break the laws that covers the cyber crime law.

yes if the governtment want trace if you have a bitcoin they need make some law or policy that makes you give your infomation about you using bitcoin, and i think it will hard to realized if your country are big country that have many people on it

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July 01, 2018, 05:41:25 AM
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Well for me, i think the gvernment discover if yoi have a bitcoin if you have an investment and tell it to the police. And it can trace you because of the information you gave. Then if they found out that you have a bitcoin wat did they do with the bitcoin ? They will own it? Oh come on, i think the government should not involve with it.
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July 01, 2018, 06:26:48 AM
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It is difficult to know about your BTC holding as crypto transactions are nit traceable.Only your country may know that u have account with crypto exchanges as you have submitted PAN or other Identity certificate fir KYC.
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July 01, 2018, 06:39:56 AM
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I live in Russia . Our mission can learn about the crypto currency only if you make big purchases and do not pay taxes. I do not think that as otherwise they can learn about the possession of the crypto currency
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July 01, 2018, 07:35:56 AM
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?

You should avoid reusing addresses. You should also be careful to use coin control: remember that signing transactions with outputs from multiple addresses associates all those addresses together.

You should always use IP address obfuscation when broadcasting transactions to the network. You can push raw transactions over TOR using a push service like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or you can connect to the network through a good VPN.

Bitcoin transactions are anonymous. As long as you don't reveal your identity, no one know you are a bitcoin holder.
For this purpose you have to buy bitcoin peer to peer from a person you trust. Never use exchanges that force you to verify your identity.

Bitcoin transactions are not anonymous. They are pseudonymous. Even if you never fully verify your identity with an exchange, things like IP addresses, cookies and PII like physical addresses (e.g. if you've bought an Amazon gift card with BTC and had something shipped to your home) can be used to identify you. Lots of PII gets leaked when dealing with third parties via web browser. And if blockchain analysis companies (working with governments) can identify one or two of your used addresses, clustering techniques may allow them to map much of your transaction history.

Be careful out there!

Yes, you are right. It is really hard to avoid tracking. So, Using VPN is the only secure way to bitcoin transaction. Otherwise there is always chance to be caught.
Also have to be careful about any transaction made with unknown person in your country. If he is your enemy, he may revel your identity.
This awareness is for bitcoin banned country. Also it's good to be precocious.

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July 01, 2018, 08:16:46 AM
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I monitored btc with web tradingview, And self analysis, give out your personal opinion. Do not listen to anyone outside
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July 01, 2018, 08:25:52 AM
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This can only be traced when you have your bitcoin on an exchange that is compliance with kyc as the government have the right to get information from the exchange site for further investigation or information..
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July 01, 2018, 08:46:12 AM
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as far as I know, this is impossible, because even the total number of bitcoins owners is unknown due to different wallets and for the simple reason that the owners died and did not leave these wallets to their relatives. crypto-currencies are decentralized, and they can not be influenced. exception is exchange: if a particular exchange has in its arsenal the verification of the KYC, under certain powers it is possible to obtain complete information about the owner.
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July 01, 2018, 11:22:32 AM
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
there is no way that government will find your bitcoin if you hold your bitcoin with your wallet you and you alone can access your wallet with your private key.
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July 01, 2018, 02:44:08 PM
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there's no way the government can track you
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July 01, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
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In simple words, if they know that particular crypto wallet address belongs to particular man, email, phone number they know that this man has crypto. So for better anonymity don't reveal your crypto address in any place.

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