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July 22, 2018, 05:55:27 AM |
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from the KYC thing, government can track your details.
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Vimukkthi Vithanage
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July 22, 2018, 06:10:22 AM |
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I think we can do that without noticing the government right. I don't see such risk. But they can trace that we did a crypto transaction through exchanges, but there are lot of exchanges where we do not want to provide KYC . so I don't see a point
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shashikamal
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July 22, 2018, 06:31:18 AM |
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No one can trace you own BTC as transactions are anonymous. If your country is banned from dealing Crypto, you won't own BTC either. Through a trusted local seller you can buy BTC. Since the identity is anonymous where you must be careful with the exchanges asks for KYC submission. IF the exchanges are bound to supply user details that will be a problem. But still you have an option to use Decentralized exchanges to buy some ALTS & do some trading. Mostly trusted local seller is the best option to buy & always should be careful with the regulations & News in your territory.
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July 22, 2018, 06:41:57 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
For this purpose you have to buy bitcoin peer to peer from a person you trust. Never use exchanges that force you to verify your identity. How to find such a person from whom I can buy bitcoin ? What about buying altcoins ? what about buying large volume in bitcoin ? Your statement seems not practical to me...
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cosmicart
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July 22, 2018, 06:45:28 AM |
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I don't think the government can track your BTC, unless it becomes centralized, it's not a bank account. no one knows the location of the owner of a bitcoin address.
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cunese
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July 22, 2018, 06:50:53 AM |
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The government can only track your BTC address and cannot track which address is yours, because the BTC address is not real-name certified, so it cannot track it.
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regnidorhcs
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July 22, 2018, 06:56:13 AM |
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Bitcoin is decentralized and the transactions are anonymous, that is why we have pseudo names. But if your government would really push to trace you, there is technically another way but not through Bitcoin, they will be able to trace you on exchanges or wallets that has your identity and other personal details. That's why some users are not using those exchanges or wallets that requires identification.
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romero121
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July 22, 2018, 07:00:48 AM |
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Governments cannot trace bitcoin, the transparency in the transaction makes it visible to the public. If an user know that the particular bitcoin address belongs to specific person, it is the only way to find. Even after fulfilling KYC norms it is impossible to trace bitcoin or that the respective holding belongs to a person which is the best of bitcoin.
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July 22, 2018, 07:09:19 AM |
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You may be caught except from every time you transact Bitcoin but you trade Bitcoin in the local market in your country who need KYC for registration on the Exchange.
So when the police see the TX-id sent to your wallet, then the police can ask to Exchange to open the KYC walllet, daraaaammammmm you get caught!
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July 22, 2018, 07:15:05 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
I think this is so easy to trace that there is some or huge btc in your wallet but its very realy hard to find out who is the real owner of that wallet except you publish it in the public so people can see the you are the true owner of that bitcoins.
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July 22, 2018, 08:32:31 AM |
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bitcoin is anonymous. And it is difficult to know who is using BTC. Unless you make a transaction in the territory of your home country. Where you have to provide KYC before you can trade bitcoin to cash.
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July 22, 2018, 08:40:34 AM |
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It's hard for the government to track you down if you own a bitcoin or altcoin, if btc is legitimate, then maybe the government will ask people to take part in bitcoin to create personal profiles on the individual and assignments. Translation must be declared
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Waleed rose
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July 22, 2018, 08:46:30 AM |
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The goverment is not trace btc. goverment is trace those exchanges or persons how sell btc that why he is know about you you are buying btc. Dont buy btc form those exchanges who is asking for your full address or idintiy.
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July 22, 2018, 08:47:56 AM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
I think it will be hard to know if someone is using bitcoin unless they have do KYC before storing assets. One of the purpose of bitcoin is to be anonymous in its transactions and no information concluded, the only way to know if someone using bitcoin to transact someone is to get its IP address.
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July 22, 2018, 10:44:37 AM |
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It's hard for the government to track you down if you own a bitcoin or altcoin, if btc is legitimate, then maybe the government will ask people to take part in bitcoin to create personal profiles on the individual and assignments. Translation must be declared
Yes it is not easy to trace your btc by government, specially if you have not made any transaction using banks or any other such way. but if you are holding your bitcoin in a BTC wallet then it is not possible for the government to trace that how much bitcoin you are currently holding.
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July 22, 2018, 12:55:56 PM |
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then the answer is that the government can not track if you have btc. You can not find the identity of this user. Everyone can look inside it, but nobody knows who it is. But if you use a public address, you will easily find the amount of bitcoin stored in this address.
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July 22, 2018, 01:01:10 PM |
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It's hard for the government to track you down if you own a bitcoin or altcoin, if btc is legitimate, then maybe the government will ask people to take part in bitcoin to create personal profiles on the individual and assignments. Translation must be declared
Yes it is not easy to trace your btc by government, specially if you have not made any transaction using banks or any other such way. but if you are holding your bitcoin in a BTC wallet then it is not possible for the government to trace that how much bitcoin you are currently holding. Exactly, as long as you hold your bitcoin in your BTC wallet then it will be impossible for government to track you, except when you're using website to withdraw your bitcoin to your local currency which it's mandatory KYC process, as far as I know a lot services that needed KYC to make a withdraw.
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July 22, 2018, 01:14:44 PM |
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How can the government discover I own BTC, let's say I'm from Venezuela where crypto is banned, what they can do to discover and arrest me?
there is a way in which the government finds the owner of Bitcoin. For example, in cooperation with a state bank then searches your savings account, that way the government can trace where the money came from. that way only according to my personal thoughts.
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mekie
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July 22, 2018, 02:07:01 PM |
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OK well for a start they may well have people in their intelligence, police and security services monitoring this board-you have gone on to the internet so you have left a trail which they can track. To a large extent it depends on how much of a threat you are deemed to be as to how much resources they will expend on you-if you are dabbling in crypto (a few hundred dollars) then they probably won't be to bothered, but if you are doing serious big value deals or are involved in other criminal activities it will help build a case against you and could lead to further charges. To see just how powerful the surveillance capacity is look at this Wikipedia link- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes The ECHELON program/system is programed to pick up on key words, such as bomb, attack etc and for all we now Bitcoin and so on. As it monitors not just internet but phone, fax, satellite and it will gradually move you up a list until you reach a threshold at which point they will start taking serious notice of you, BE CAREFULL.
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July 24, 2018, 07:02:36 AM |
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When we make our account on line or wallet then all the identity filing by us.it's so easy government will trace in few minutes.
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