[ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread

[chowdan]

To everyone:

I think we need to redistribute the hashing power on our coin. This i dont think has been brought up yet, however people need to STOP mining on CoinMines server and move the power to the other servers.

Coinmine currently pulling way to much hashing power compaired to the other servers that are out there.

Please move some of your hashing power out of CoinMine and into the other servers before we get to be a popular coin! This will help all of us in terms of security!

I have moved off CoinMine and over to SuprNova's site. CoinMine and Mine-Pool seem to be both pulling the majority of the network's power - atleast for pools

Where do you look to see how much the pools are pulling compared to network?

We don't have a source to view the network hash rate (as far as i can tell), but the time is coming before people pull their GPU farms off the coin(LTC diff drop will force gpu's back to it) and block reward too low for farms to keep all in.

That being said, i was comparing pool hash power individually. Not the best gauge of how much power is being put towards the coin, but it gives a some what "rough" estimate.

IF GPU's were to pull all out(smelter only allows solo mining), then we would have a serious issue which is why i suggest we start to combat the issue prior to having a potential issue.

[Hilux74]

I have add nodes to 1st post.

We had great idea trollbox on forum.bitparticle.com today to have particle:// links like magnet:// links.  So I am implement for Windows asynchronous pluggable protocol.  Will need define what can do, but first we can do like particle://send/address/amount/comment and particle://app/myapp/somethingitcando.

Hilux raises valid question.  As for 1st point, there are many valid use case, but of course not so appropriate one too.  Do we need angry bird in our wallet?  Probably not.  But there are lots of other possibilties.  Do not underestimate power of having user attention, and attractive of app as like TV in front.

As for 2nd point.  I don't know whole answer yet.  It remains to be figured out.  I imagine will work a lot like Linux repos.  But, security definitely priority.  Apps will run in sandbox.  Technical user like us on btalk are smart enough to check things, but mass population are not.  Only have to look at Windows to understand level of idiots out there ;-)  So, we will put up fences around what apps can do and run in isolated sandbox.  Personally I will only run from source I compile or inspect dll with ILSpy. 

chowdan gets the ethos 100%. very well put.

We are going to enter uncharted territory, but this what makes us special and not copy/paste clone, and what bring opportunity.

Thanks moonmoon (and others) for addressing my concerns and widening my view on the 'app' topic.  Once again always very impressed when I read responses from moonmoon, very confidence inspiring.

[northranger79510]

Buying Particles. PM me your offer. I dont want to use Coinedup since slow system

[Nullu]

We had great idea trollbox on forum.bitparticle.com today to have particle:// links like magnet:// links.  So I am implement for Windows asynchronous pluggable protocol.  Will need define what can do, but first we can do like particle://send/address/amount/comment and particle://app/myapp/somethingitcando.

I really like this idea for many reasons. I think with enough different types of commands it would make website development very fast for using particle by generating these links in PHP or Javascript/etc to create functional websites for Particle; Games, Exhanges, even Stores. You would also need the ability to sign unique IDs to links, so you could intergrate databases, have login systems, etc.

Like; particle://send/address/amount/id/

It would make designing websites for coins extremely fast.

So id might be your id in the database for your online account, so the website database can keep track of transactions, while the link also functions to send coins to the website's wallet. All the security side of things can be handled by the website. You just need to provide the functionality for integration. id would have to match the session data from login, so all the security is handled by the web developer.

Really promising idea.

You mean like use as REST abstraction over the RPC interface?  Only trouble I see is not wanting to run gui wallet on server.  So, we could make a server mode, but then how to do the pluggable protocol on linux...this I don't know how.  If it is like Windows registry entry, something similar on linux, then we could do it. 

I am not too familiar with linux, but yes, I'm talking about having the wallet run on the server somehow to allow you to interface with it via urls. The wallet would poll for responses and act accordingly. The security can be handled by the web developers, who would limit what commands the wallet could receive in server mode based on authorisation or whatever limits they set. All that would be in the web code.

[moonmoon]

We had great idea trollbox on forum.bitparticle.com today to have particle:// links like magnet:// links.  So I am implement for Windows asynchronous pluggable protocol.  Will need define what can do, but first we can do like particle://send/address/amount/comment and particle://app/myapp/somethingitcando.

I really like this idea for many reasons. I think with enough different types of commands it would make website development very fast for using particle by generating these links in PHP or Javascript/etc to create functional websites for Particle; Games, Exhanges, even Stores. You would also need the ability to sign unique IDs to links, so you could intergrate databases, have login systems, etc.

Like; particle://send/address/amount/id/

It would make designing websites for coins extremely fast.

So id might be your id in the database for your online account, so the website database can keep track of transactions, while the link also functions to send coins to the website's wallet. All the security side of things can be handled by the website. You just need to provide the functionality for integration. id would have to match the session data from login, so all the security is handled by the web developer.

Really promising idea.

You mean like use as REST abstraction over the RPC interface?  Only trouble I see is not wanting to run gui wallet on server.  So, we could make a server mode, but then how to do the pluggable protocol on linux...this I don't know how.  If it is like Windows registry entry, something similar on linux, then we could do it. 

I am not too familiar with linux, but yes, I'm talking about having the wallet run on the server somehow to allow you to interface with it via urls. The wallet would poll for responses and act accordingly. The security can be handled by the web developers, who would limit what commands the wallet could receive in server mode based on authorisation or whatever limits they set. All that would be in the web code.

You can do this today with RPC interface...  Although I can see REST is a little simpler to code to.  For Windows/ASP.Net developer ultimate would be WCF binding

[matauc12]

I have add nodes to 1st post.

We had great idea trollbox on forum.bitparticle.com today to have particle:// links like magnet:// links.  So I am implement for Windows asynchronous pluggable protocol.  Will need define what can do, but first we can do like particle://send/address/amount/comment and particle://app/myapp/somethingitcando.

Hilux raises valid question.  As for 1st point, there are many valid use case, but of course not so appropriate one too.  Do we need angry bird in our wallet?  Probably not.  But there are lots of other possibilties.  Do not underestimate power of having user attention, and attractive of app as like TV in front.

As for 2nd point.  I don't know whole answer yet.  It remains to be figured out.  I imagine will work a lot like Linux repos.  But, security definitely priority.  Apps will run in sandbox.  Technical user like us on btalk are smart enough to check things, but mass population are not.  Only have to look at Windows to understand level of idiots out there ;-)  So, we will put up fences around what apps can do and run in isolated sandbox.  Personally I will only run from source I compile or inspect dll with ILSpy.  

chowdan gets the ethos 100%. very well put.

We are going to enter uncharted territory, but this what makes us special and not copy/paste clone, and what bring opportunity.

Thanks moonmoon (and others) for addressing my concerns and widening my view on the 'app' topic.  Once again always very impressed when I read responses from moonmoon, very confidence inspiring.

I admire your open mind to counter arguments sir.

[chowdan]

Buying Particles. PM me your offer. I dont want to use Coinedup since slow system

Unfortunately Coinedup is our only trading system. If you are buying from any user, i recommend using an escrow service to limit your risk of theft.

I would also suggest for your own safety sake to use coinedup and deal with the slow speed as they have no transaction fee where an escrow service might.

[xiaowuguikuaipao]

This is a revolution that we rub one's eyes and wait

[novocaine]

This is a revolution that we rub one's eyes and wait

¸¸.•*¨*•...... I see Particles ....... Everywhere ¸¸.•*¨*•

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[EpStROM]

Block Explorer Updated!



http://abe.epstrom.com/chain/Particle

[penambang]

Block Explorer Updated!

Really nice...

[Allepisodes]

curious if i wanted to sell things on a website and accept particle as payment what would i need?  Im thinking lets make it easy for people to offer services that accept particle most other coins wait ages before services are offered.

[qbd1313]

Block Explorer Updated!



http://abe.epstrom.com/chain/Particle

Really nice...
amazing

[Allepisodes]

Particle News -anything particle new plugins/apps that were released and what they do.

Particle Developments - whats currently in the works/whats in the next wallet update.

What about skins to really make the wallet how you want it kind of like Winamp was.

Maybe a Ticker for your browser Firefox,IE,Crome ... .  once particle make it to major exchanges for people who don't have there wallet open all the time or who want to keep track from work.

the 1st 3 would be nice to put in the wallet if they are not already.


back to brainstorming i go.

[moonmoon]

Particle News -anything particle new plugins/apps that were released and what they do.

Particle Developments - whats currently in the works/whats in the next wallet update.

What about skins to really make the wallet how you want it kind of like Winamp was.

Maybe a Ticker for your browser Firefox,IE,Crome ... .  once particle make it to major exchanges for people who don't have there wallet open all the time or who want to keep track from work.

the 1st 3 would be nice to put in the wallet if they are not already.


back to brainstorming i go.

I have been trying to figure what to put on dashboard of wallet where logo was.  I put QR code.  But, news/development info is good idea.

I have implemented the QR codes, and almost done address book, send and receive functions so it will shortly be usable wallet.

You read my mind with winamp/xmms :-)  Implementing skin framework is a real pain ;-)  Maybe once code is released someone in community can retrofit...  it is tedious work and takes long time, but would be cool.

Tickers would be very nice.  I have android phone, would love ticker alert app that knows when you looked at it last, and if values change pushes notification.  I really want Android wallet to take with me.  Then when I am home, I can point it at new wallet on laptop screen, catch QR code and send funds from android wallet to computer for long term storage.  If nobody does android wallet after I am done with new desktop wallet I will do it, bitcoin android wallet code is open source can take it and modify and enhance for Particle.

[moonmoon]

Block Explorer Updated!



http://abe.epstrom.com/chain/Particle

This is very nice!  Thank you!

[kikeda]

Tickers would be very nice.  I have android phone, would love ticker alert app that knows when you looked at it last, and if values change pushes notification.  I really want Android wallet to take with me.  Then when I am home, I can point it at new wallet on laptop screen, catch QR code and send funds from android wallet to computer for long term storage.  If nobody does android wallet after I am done with new desktop wallet I will do it, bitcoin android wallet code is open source can take it and modify and enhance for Particle.

Ticker alert app would be really nice yasuki, ive tried to make one based on cryptsy prices but its desktop based. I would love a ticker app on my phone specifically on IOS but android would do, ill just get a cheap android for that app alone. Another thing is the SMS feature like webmoney http://wiki.wmtransfer.com/projects/webmoney/wiki/Payment_via_SMS and 2 way authentication for the wallet, so instead of only using the traditional phrase code we could add 2 way authentication like sms verification code or email verification code before you can send particles.

[moonmoon]

Getting closer to feature parity with the Qt wallet:

[needmoreprofit]

Maybe we should start a new topic? - something like change log of new wallet with picture of what you do ,what adding in wallet and what you will adding .
This may attract more interest to PRT from those who do not know about a new wallet ,because new wallet is important feature of PRT. But many people don't know about new wallet....

[moonmoon]

Maybe we should start a new topic? - something like change log of new wallet with picture of what you do ,what adding in wallet and what you will adding .
This may attract more interest to PRT from those who do not know about a new wallet ,because new wallet is important feature of PRT. But many people don't know about new wallet....

This is a good idea.  I will put one together this weekend.  Right now we are flying under the radar ;-)