[ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread

[alicea]

Guys, you will not believe this, but I just logged in CoinedUp IN 5 SECONDS and in first try!

You should have said "guys and girls"
I don't believe it, too!
A miracle on our eyes!

[EpStROM]

Guys, you will not believe this, but I just logged in CoinedUp IN 5 SECONDS and in first try!

i dont

Me too, maybe some front end servers more laggy than others

[Snotty]

Guys, you will not believe this, but I just logged in CoinedUp IN 5 SECONDS and in first try!

You should have said "guys and girls"
I don't believe it, too!
A miracle on our eyes!

Apologies, my lady! *tips hat*

[ssshhh]

Guys, you will not believe this, but I just logged in CoinedUp IN 5 SECONDS and in first try!

Maybe CoinedUPs admin have been trading on mcxNOW and felt a little shame LOL

[Nullu]

Guys, you will not believe this, but I just logged in CoinedUp IN 5 SECONDS and in first try!

You must have logged in just when they were flogging the mule that powers the wooden mill that's running the coinedup servers.

[dyask]

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This looks like some kind of post chain of misunderstandings. Atleast, I missed the key parts of "gambling driven coin" and "dislike for miners". I'm just making a gambling site and I like miners (with a bit of jealousy, since I don't have hardware to do it too).

Sorry I wasn't trying to offend.   You are free to run your gambling site and while it isn't for me, many others may like it.

The mining comments are from before.  Right now PRT is losing miners.  Difficulty has been dropping and soon the awards will be down to 90 coins from the meager 180 it is now.  The dev has indicated that the mining problem can be fix, so I'll see what happens.   When it was be discussed there were comments about miners have too much control, etc.   That is where my mining comment came from.

Oh it doesn't take a GPU to mine PRT.  My son has been doing it with a netbook style laptop and he still got about 400 coins in a week.   You really just need CPUs.    

All good, no offence taken. So, correct me if I'm wrong, you present a problem, that in the long run there will be no miners left, because of low rewards? Wouldn't a built in-wallet "one-click-use" mining GUI solve this issue? Assuming, that Particle price will rise to some point, who wouldn't want to earn a couple of cents while being idle. Like in the old "get paid to surf" days. At the current state mining is definitely not for anyone (command line is a dark and mysterious place/ "set generate 1" whaaaat?) and, as MaxCoin launch displayed there is a high demand for "easy internet money" by clueless people. I guess there are hundreds of them still trying to CPU solo mine MAX today. Anyway, so moonmoon adds GUI, I can make a mockup for it right now, GUI has a button "GET PARTICLES", which would launch minerd for a pool who accepts wallet address as username. Easy, simple, effective, everybody wins.

Or am I looking at this from the incorrect point of view?

Someone was telling that it's pretty risky to mine with laptops due to high possibility of overheating .

Yes mining could be done automatically in wallets.  That seems to be common for POS approach, but it doesn't have to be limited to that.   However I think there are some issues to address.

1) There needs to be better control of the miner.  Currently the miner in wallets will peg each CPU it is allowed to use.   Instead you need to have some kind of "use x% of CPU" type of control.   Otherwise the wallet would be popular.

2) It would pretty much have to be on by default or else it wouldn't work.   Possibly a default setting of 10% of CPU so most people wouldn't mind it.

3) Most will never see the value of it if it is limited to solo mining, so by default it probably should point to a default pool so that everyone would get a some payments.  

4) Education!   Frankly I don't think the community could pull off this part of it and many would claim the wallet was malware or something like that.  

[ssshhh]

Guys, you will not believe this, but I just logged in CoinedUp IN 5 SECONDS and in first try!

You must have logged in just when they were flogging the mule that powers the wooden mill that's running the coinedup servers.

 

[novaboy2k]

Guys, you will not believe this, but I just logged in CoinedUp IN 5 SECONDS and in first try!

You must have logged in just when they were flogging the mule that powers the wooden mill that's running the coinedup servers.

hahaha

[ssshhh]

<...>

This looks like some kind of post chain of misunderstandings. Atleast, I missed the key parts of "gambling driven coin" and "dislike for miners". I'm just making a gambling site and I like miners (with a bit of jealousy, since I don't have hardware to do it too).

Sorry I wasn't trying to offend.   You are free to run your gambling site and while it isn't for me, many others may like it.

The mining comments are from before.  Right now PRT is losing miners.  Difficulty has been dropping and soon the awards will be down to 90 coins from the meager 180 it is now.  The dev has indicated that the mining problem can be fix, so I'll see what happens.   When it was be discussed there were comments about miners have too much control, etc.   That is where my mining comment came from.

Oh it doesn't take a GPU to mine PRT.  My son has been doing it with a netbook style laptop and he still got about 400 coins in a week.   You really just need CPUs.   

All good, no offence taken. So, correct me if I'm wrong, you present a problem, that in the long run there will be no miners left, because of low rewards? Wouldn't a built in-wallet "one-click-use" mining GUI solve this issue? Assuming, that Particle price will rise to some point, who wouldn't want to earn a couple of cents while being idle. Like in the old "get paid to surf" days. At the current state mining is definitely not for anyone (command line is a dark and mysterious place/ "set generate 1" whaaaat?) and, as MaxCoin launch displayed there is a high demand for "easy internet money" by clueless people. I guess there are hundreds of them still trying to CPU solo mine MAX today. Anyway, so moonmoon adds GUI, I can make a mockup for it right now, GUI has a button "GET PARTICLES", which would launch minerd for a pool who accepts wallet address as username. Easy, simple, effective, everybody wins.

Or am I looking at this from the incorrect point of view?

Someone was telling that it's pretty risky to mine with laptops due to high possibility of overheating .

Yes mining could be done automatically in wallets.  That seems to be common for POS approach, but it doesn't have to be limited to that.   However I think there are some issues to address.

1) There needs to be better control of the miner.  Currently the miner in wallets will peg each CPU it is allowed to use.   Instead you need to have some kind of "use x% of CPU" type of control.   Otherwise the wallet would be popular.

2) It would pretty much have to be on by default or else it wouldn't work.   Possibly a default setting of 10% of CPU so must people would mine it.

3) Most will never see the value of it if it is limited to solo mining, so by default it probably should point to a default pool so that everyone would get a some payments.  

4) Education!   Frankly I don't think the community could pull off this part of it and many would claim the wallet was malware or something like that.  

From a previous post...

To keep it really simple the first app should be the Particle Faucet!

1)  Get some Particles..

"Get particles on wallet startup every X hours"

Ah ha....  Pseudo mining.  A mining pool could be setup "specifically" for the faucet! (or similar)
As opposed to depending on donations

OR

the mining client is switched on, but in low priority mode and connected to faucet pool.
So you help keep the network going and get Particle in return.  With the option to
not receive Particle ( and therefore do not mine )

Could call it "The pay it Forward button"

[novocaine]

Taken with Webpage Screenshot

YUPPP

[Snotty]

Yes mining could be done automatically in wallets.  That seems to be common for POS approach, but it doesn't have to be limited to that.   However I think there are some issues to address.

1) There needs to be better control of the miner.  Currently the miner in wallets will peg each CPU it is allowed to use.   Instead you need to have some kind of "use x% of CPU" type of control.   Otherwise the wallet would be popular.

2) It would pretty much have to be on by default or else it wouldn't work.   Possibly a default setting of 10% of CPU so must people would mine it.

3) Most will never see the value of it if it is limited to solo mining, so by default it probably should point to a default pool so that everyone would get a some payments.  

4) Education!   Frankly I don't think the community could pull off this part of it and many would claim the wallet was malware or something like that.  

Oh, automatic mining! That's more interesting than what I was thinking about. It would be interesting to hear Moonmoon's thoughts about this. Eh, so much things are waiting for us in the future. I'm excited!

[Snotty]

"Receive" tab mockup!

Not much to note here. Just added links to web pages/apps, where user can aquire more PRT. Could be updatable from web service. Maybe.

So, the simplest so far and the last for today. Gotta get some rest.

Previously on "Particle Mockups": Dashboard and "Send" tab (my favorite)



This is an unofficial and incompleted mockup, I can not guarantee that final wallet will look like that, but I will try to push as many of it to the dev as I can.

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By the way, it's nice to see this thread getting more active. I was really missing it in the "Watchlist" page

[gadado]

A good idea with the easy auto mining in the wallet.
Maybe a small cute animations when the mining is active could increase attracktions.
There was once a little dog in windows for searching a file. I remember a lot not so computer affected ppl just liked that little dog!

[EpStROM]

A good idea with the easy auto mining in the wallet.
Maybe a small cute animations when the mining is active could increase attracktions.
There was once a little dog in windows for searching a file. I remember a lot not so computer affected ppl just liked that little dog!

We need a mascot  

But yeah people who's first time using the wallet will like some animations and easy to use interface

[dyask]

Yes mining could be done automatically in wallets.  That seems to be common for POS approach, but it doesn't have to be limited to that.   However I think there are some issues to address.

1) There needs to be better control of the miner.  Currently the miner in wallets will peg each CPU it is allowed to use.   Instead you need to have some kind of "use x% of CPU" type of control.   Otherwise the wallet would be popular.

2) It would pretty much have to be on by default or else it wouldn't work.   Possibly a default setting of 10% of CPU so must people would mine it.

3) Most will never see the value of it if it is limited to solo mining, so by default it probably should point to a default pool so that everyone would get a some payments.  

4) Education!   Frankly I don't think the community could pull off this part of it and many would claim the wallet was malware or something like that.  

Oh, automatic mining! That's more interesting than what I was thinking about. It would be interesting to hear Moonmoon's thoughts about this. Eh, so much things are waiting for us in the future. I'm excited!

It could probably work if you had 100's to 1000's of wallets running.   

[lemfuture]

from 3mil to 900k cap? uh oh

[EpStROM]

I'll just leave this here 

[matauc12]

I'll just leave this here 

lol nice one

[novaboy2k]

Blast off!!!

[EpStROM]

Blast off!!!

Just waiting for wallet release