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November 06, 2014, 04:26:24 PM |
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Done already.
Reported to the US FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3).
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roparker2014
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November 06, 2014, 11:32:51 PM |
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The truth is already in light. BTC-trader was a ponzi and they ripped everyone off. These schemes pop up and die all the time. Sometimes law enforcement catch up with the perpetrators, but more usually they get away with it - cops don't usually make recouping money that investors knowingly put into unlicensed, unregulated ponzi schemes a priority, when there are people out there getting raped and murdered every day. No reason not to chase after them of course but don't get your hopes up. |
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pawlo74
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November 07, 2014, 07:46:47 AM |
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The truth is already in light. BTC-trader was a ponzi and they ripped everyone off. These schemes pop up and die all the time. Sometimes law enforcement catch up with the perpetrators, but more usually they get away with it - cops don't usually make recouping money that investors knowingly put into unlicensed, unregulated ponzi schemes a priority, when there are people out there getting raped and murdered every day. No reason not to chase after them of course but don't get your hopes up. +1 Unfortunately it's true. |
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pawlo74
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November 07, 2014, 05:00:35 PM |
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Yes there is a hope if he is american and you can find him in USA but what if for instance he is Russian ? |
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benjamin07
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November 09, 2014, 11:02:24 AM |
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Bread crumbs for the FBI search engines:
Bitcoin-trader.biz fraud tax evasion bitcoins fiat scam money laundering jail time criminal fraud civil fraud online exchange currency converter shares dividends high investment yielding plan HYIP hundreds thousands millions BTC USD dollars arbitrage fake identity
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pawlo74
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November 11, 2014, 07:37:36 AM |
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what about funds ? did they refund to the investors ? |
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mailmansDOGE
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November 11, 2014, 07:47:10 AM |
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what about funds ? did they refund to the investors ?
I just called the phone listen in their website, the guy that answered told me refunds should start coming in at the begining of the next week. I'm not even invested into their website but oh well, I decided I should just let that out here to see if this is going to turn being a scam as well despite their claims. |
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Puppet
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November 11, 2014, 08:47:03 AM |
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what about funds ? did they refund to the investors ?
I just called the phone listen in their website, the guy that answered told me refunds should start coming in at the begining of the next week. I'm not even invested into their website but oh well, I decided I should just let that out here to see if this is going to turn being a scam as well despite their claims. They are clawing back the >16% "trading profits" they supposedly achieved over the past weeks in an attempt to pay everyone back the principal (and they are not sure they can achieve that). So obviously it was a ponzi scam, just one that got stopped early enough that its still possible to roll back, since it didnt operate long enough for anyone to withdraw their principal. Major props to the NJ bureau of securities for acting quickly and stopping this before it spun out of control. |
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rammy2k2
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November 11, 2014, 09:32:09 AM |
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u know u posted in wrong topic ? |
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fingertoe11
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November 11, 2014, 01:19:53 PM |
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what about funds ? did they refund to the investors ? Well, the paper there says that they intend to sell everything, gain or loss and pay the investors back soon. They made it very clear that there will probably be losses. If they where ponzi (sure smells like it) they will probably be pretty substantial. Time may tell.. |
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fingertoe11
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November 11, 2014, 01:23:58 PM |
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u know u posted in wrong topic ? Yes, but there where 10 pages or so of these guys ambulance chasing Bitcoin-trader.biz customers after the collapse in this thread and several of us telling them to get lost, that nobody needed another ponzi. I figured it deserved a "told you so" here. |
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shmoula
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November 11, 2014, 10:57:03 PM |
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Habbeat - beat your habits more effective way!!! Always empty box(no cat also no coin): 1SHM1tiur2iNBCVxCBr7vAJ84PrPZ6d6v
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roparker2014
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November 11, 2014, 11:04:20 PM |
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u know u posted in wrong topic ? Yes, but there where 10 pages or so of these guys ambulance chasing Bitcoin-trader.biz customers after the collapse in this thread and several of us telling them to get lost, that nobody needed another ponzi. I figured it deserved a "told you so" here. Yeah - it was clear from the start that esoteric existed purely to hoover up the few credulous idiots who were looking for something stupid to do with their money after bitcoin-trader folded. The fact it had such a short lifespan proves that very few people were stupid enough to fall for it, thankfully. People who lost money there can probably take some comfort in the knowledge that the scammers probably didn't do too well out of this one themselves, and are very unlikely to be frolicking in pile of money on a tropical island. After paying out whatever they needed for setup and promotion to get things started up, probably not enough to be worth the hassle of now being on the run from the law and whatever vigilante measures angry investors try to take. |
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pawlo74
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November 11, 2014, 11:26:42 PM |
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Where's Digicoinz or 1RuneKing   |
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ShakyhandsBTCer
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It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
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November 12, 2014, 10:41:20 PM |
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If they wanted to have an audit until now, they would have one. Don't be delusional. They are buying time, like all scammers do.
im afraid this might be correct, end of Aug is in 3 days, i bet they will come up with some excuse (again). Too bad I was right. I hate it when people lose money! |
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November 16, 2014, 03:06:10 AM |
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There is a new website collecting information from BT investors to help in the investigation, here is the e-mail from Jo Macdonald (BT UK representative who also got scammed £14,748.00) Hello BT investors, There is a small group of us who are leading the charge in tracking down lost money. We are asking everyone to enter their BT losses on the following database. So please pass on the following to anyone you know who has been affected (apologies if you have already completed the form and have registered with the website, also please could you forward to anyone you know who may not have done so.: http://www.bt-investigation.pw/ You can also follow the BT investigation discussion on the following forum and contribute if you can. http://bt-investigation.pw/phpbb/BT-Investigation Report for lost funds www.bt-investigation.pw Many thanks |
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pawlo74
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November 16, 2014, 05:26:04 AM
Last edit: November 16, 2014, 06:37:08 AM by pawlo74 |
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There is a new website collecting information from BT investors to help in the investigation, here is the e-mail from Jo Macdonald (BT UK representative who also got scammed £14,748.00) Hello BT investors, There is a small group of us who are leading the charge in tracking down lost money. We are asking everyone to enter their BT losses on the following database. So please pass on the following to anyone you know who has been affected (apologies if you have already completed the form and have registered with the website, also please could you forward to anyone you know who may not have done so.: http://www.bt-investigation.pw/ You can also follow the BT investigation discussion on the following forum and contribute if you can. http://bt-investigation.pw/phpbb/BT-Investigation Report for lost funds www.bt-investigation.pw Many thanks Cheers. I live in UK and I didn't know about that website. ps. I have just registered on that forum but I am not giving any details yet. I have nothing to hide but do not trust any government even UK. Government and banks stick each other and if UK bank block my account I am losing my job. I do not know how in fee country that is possible at all but it happens every day to many people, seems like UK is not free country yet. Also I prefer this forum because of freedom of the speech and almost no moderation by admins. |
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sunny1
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November 16, 2014, 12:11:43 PM |
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Cheers. I live in UK and I didn't know about that website.
ps. I have just registered on that forum but I am not giving any details yet. I have nothing to hide but do not trust any government even UK. Government and banks stick each other and if UK bank block my account I am losing my job. I do not know how in fee country that is possible at all but it happens every day to many people, seems like UK is not free country yet.
Also I prefer this forum because of freedom of the speech and almost no moderation by admins.
I wouldn't say yet, I would say not anymore! |
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