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March 02, 2014, 06:59:40 PM
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Any ETA on when we might have a GUI for the DEx?
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March 02, 2014, 07:07:06 PM
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Hey guys, something weird happening on Poloniex. Every few hours come guy and sell hundreds and thousands of XCPs. He just match all buy orders from up down to 7.6. He just fixes the price for over a week on same place. It seems to me, according to this behavior, is the same guy.
He already sold tens of thousands of coins.
I don't know from where he have so many coins and why he sell so urgent as soon as price goes up a little (but still very cheap).
I have no problem with that (opportunity to new people buy with cheap prices) and by myself not hurry to sell my XCPs soon.
Maybe it will be sound paranoid, but I (and some other people) starting to think maybe he found some breach in the protocol to get free coins from nowhere or steal someone else's (similar to the white hat we saw before) and make some doubts and worries.
Is there any way to investigate this? It may be just thoughts, but maybe a bug... If this a bug, better it would fixed ASAP...

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March 02, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
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Israeli hackathon teams working hard to implement sport betting on XCP.
Good luck guys...
http://www.meetup.com/BTCHACKIL/events/166860292/

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March 02, 2014, 07:21:41 PM
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Hey guys, something weird happening on Poloniex. Every few hours come guy and sell hundreds and thousands of XCPs. He just match all buy orders from up down to 7.6. He just fixes the price for over a week on same place. It seems to me, according to this behavior, is the same guy.
He already sold tens of thousands of coins.
I don't know from where he have so many coins and why he sell so urgent as soon as price goes up a little (but still very cheap).
I have no problem with that (opportunity to new people buy with cheap prices) and by myself not hurry to sell my XCPs soon.
Maybe it will be sound paranoid, but I (and some other people) starting to think maybe he found some breach in the protocol to get free coins from nowhere or steal someone else's (similar to the white hat we saw before) and make some doubts and worries.
Is there any way to investigate this? It may be just thoughts, but maybe a bug... If this a bug, better it would fixed ASAP...

Could it be this address, 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f?
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March 02, 2014, 07:29:02 PM
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Could it be this address, 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f?

I don't know the address. It's inside the exchange. Only busoni can know his address.

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March 02, 2014, 07:34:24 PM
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Could it be this address, 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f?

I don't know the address. It's inside the exchange. Only busoni can know his address.
I don't so, it does not appear that way from the transaction history. Lets not speculate.
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March 02, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
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Could it be this address, 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f?

I don't know the address. It's inside the exchange. Only busoni can know his address.
I don't so, it does not appear that way from the transaction history. Lets not speculate.

not completely sure but i guess it is the adress of the exchange. i think probably some burners are simply selling for a price they are fine with to freeroll or something. you should keep in mind that this is a seller market due to the (wanted) lack of marketing in the early days. at current prices "only" around 7000-8000 xcp were traded in the last 24 hours.

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March 02, 2014, 09:13:51 PM
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Israeli hackathon teams working hard to implement sport betting on XCP.
Good luck guys...
http://www.meetup.com/BTCHACKIL/events/166860292/

That's great. Is there a way we can support them?
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March 03, 2014, 02:57:51 AM
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Israeli hackathon teams working hard to implement sport betting on XCP.
Good luck guys...
http://www.meetup.com/BTCHACKIL/events/166860292/

That's great. Is there a way we can support them?

I couldn't see a mention specifically of counterparty there, but did see that they are sponsored by mastercoin foundation?
If they are working with counterparty I would be interested in donating towards any innovative development efforts
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March 03, 2014, 04:11:13 AM
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Hey guys, something weird happening on Poloniex. Every few hours come guy and sell hundreds and thousands of XCPs. He just match all buy orders from up down to 7.6. He just fixes the price for over a week on same place. It seems to me, according to this behavior, is the same guy.
He already sold tens of thousands of coins.
I don't know from where he have so many coins and why he sell so urgent as soon as price goes up a little (but still very cheap).
I have no problem with that (opportunity to new people buy with cheap prices) and by myself not hurry to sell my XCPs soon.
Maybe it will be sound paranoid, but I (and some other people) starting to think maybe he found some breach in the protocol to get free coins from nowhere or steal someone else's (similar to the white hat we saw before) and make some doubts and worries.
Is there any way to investigate this? It may be just thoughts, but maybe a bug... If this a bug, better it would fixed ASAP...

Could it be this address, 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f?

Maybe someone wants to get rid of some XCP, but the volume is too low to just put up a wall?

At the current Poloniex volume, it would take a minimum of 6 hours for a 1000 XCP sell wall to get eaten through.

If I wanted to quickly sell 1000 XCP on Poloniex right now without waiting 6+ hours, I would have to sell all the way down to .00711 BTC/XCP
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March 03, 2014, 05:14:19 AM
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When will the GUI wallet come out?
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March 03, 2014, 05:20:27 AM
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Hey guys, something weird happening on Poloniex. Every few hours come guy and sell hundreds and thousands of XCPs. He just match all buy orders from up down to 7.6. He just fixes the price for over a week on same place. It seems to me, according to this behavior, is the same guy.
He already sold tens of thousands of coins.
I don't know from where he have so many coins and why he sell so urgent as soon as price goes up a little (but still very cheap).
I have no problem with that (opportunity to new people buy with cheap prices) and by myself not hurry to sell my XCPs soon.
Maybe it will be sound paranoid, but I (and some other people) starting to think maybe he found some breach in the protocol to get free coins from nowhere or steal someone else's (similar to the white hat we saw before) and make some doubts and worries.
Is there any way to investigate this? It may be just thoughts, but maybe a bug... If this a bug, better it would fixed ASAP...

Could it be this address, 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f?

Maybe someone wants to get rid of some XCP, but the volume is too low to just put up a wall?

At the current Poloniex volume, it would take a minimum of 6 hours for a 1000 XCP sell wall to get eaten through.

If I wanted to quickly sell 1000 XCP on Poloniex right now without waiting 6+ hours, I would have to sell all the way down to .00711 BTC/XCP

seems a more likely explanation, admin of site can check more thoroughly.
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March 03, 2014, 06:06:32 AM
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When will the GUI wallet come out?
There is a GUI currently, however this requires you to download and reindex the blockchain.

There is also a WebWallet under development (final release in about 3 weeks), this will be really easy to use and does not require any downloads.
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March 03, 2014, 07:04:26 AM
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When will the GUI wallet come out?
There is a GUI currently, however this requires you to download and reindex the blockchain.

There is also a WebWallet under development (final release in about 3 weeks), this will be really easy to use and does not require any downloads.

Thanks! Waiting for webwallet.
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March 03, 2014, 07:39:16 AM
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When will the GUI wallet come out?
There is a GUI currently, however this requires you to download and reindex the blockchain.

There is also a WebWallet under development (final release in about 3 weeks), this will be really easy to use and does not require any downloads.

I'm running the GUI wallet and did not have to re-index the blockchain again. If you already have a counterpartyd installation up and running, installing the GUI wallet is trivial.
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March 03, 2014, 07:46:23 AM
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Did they alter the CLI to remove the market function? They publish a changelog?

We've decided against recommending counterparty to investors due to the unstable nature of the critically required software releases (due to its "alpha" quality perhaps), the developers implementing code to open network connections to continually poll website/s (wtf?) while they refused to consider adding some simple features to allow DEX usability (ok, we get it, you don't want to implement our advice, but adding forced updating and http polling is unacceptable. . .)
For historical documentation our recomendations were compiled here: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html currently knocked to page 2 of that board due to non-interest of devs although the proposal was reviewed.
Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd
WOW, very detailed changelog (professionals for sure!)
 Seems rather sketchy at best. . .

We are still selling counterparty through these 2 methods: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4

Is Moneypaktrader around?  I sent him btc for XCP on 02/13 EST. (My PM says I sent it on the 14th but it's wrong)  He didn't send XCP and he doesn't respond to messages or emails.  I don't care that he has a good reputation on here, his customer service just horrible.  If he didn't want to honor .005 anymore than he should be on the forums announcing it or take his offer off the spreadsheet in the XCP buy/sell thread.  Or, just send my money back.  Below is the PM I sent.
Sent another .1 BTC for 20 XCP
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5c802a24589fe7d2556e2f0ffb6ea2eadf9c46507329292b4c0de58d8d898b7d
Thanks.  How much longer are you offering at .005?

What exactly were you sending the coin for?
It matches a donation here: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
But you're saying it was a mistake donation? Sent after the deadline (30 BTC came sooner in this case) for our 0.005 btc/xcp XCP giveaway?

We never controlled the spreadsheet but did post the terms (30 btc limit) for that promotion you reference. one person claimed the bulk of that promotion as you can see (transparently) in the blockchains.

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March 03, 2014, 07:58:20 AM
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When will the GUI wallet come out?
There is a GUI currently, however this requires you to download and reindex the blockchain.

There is also a WebWallet under development (final release in about 3 weeks), this will be really easy to use and does not require any downloads.

I'm running the GUI wallet and did not have to re-index the blockchain again. If you already have a counterpartyd installation up and running, installing the GUI wallet is trivial.

What's with theMightyX's interface, though? Still waiting for it...
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March 03, 2014, 08:25:49 AM
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[...] the developers implementing code to open network connections to continually poll website/s (wtf?)
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Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd

link to the code?

My perusal of the code shows the only site being hit is blockchain.info for address balances. I am not thrilled that this is in there, but I would be surprised if it is used for anything critical.
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March 03, 2014, 08:28:50 AM
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[...] the developers implementing code to open network connections to continually poll website/s (wtf?)
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Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd

link to the code?

My perusal of the code shows the only site being hit is blockchain.info for address balances. I am not thrilled that this is in there, but I would be surprised if it is used for anything critical.

Also, it's easy to test how important this code is, just set a bogus IP for blockchain.info in /etc/hosts and run counterpartyd to see how functional it is without being able to access blockchain.
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March 03, 2014, 08:42:08 AM
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Doesn't it poll the github account directly controlled by the dev also? not sure what all github allows them to see, but just those 2 sites is disappointing here.
Still glad we got the altcoin bump on this one, hope more investors jump in to pick up the slack.
Too bad that second exchange didn't open up. . .
all these changes to the burn fees for transactions makes the DEX hopeless for endusers and paying a central source for trading this altcoin brings us back to square one.

Great ideas though! A dev will surely figure out usable code to do altcoin DEXing eventually.

Kudos to the dev's for thinking this up, so simple of an idea, yet so requiring of coding skills to actually implement. . .

https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html

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