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March 14, 2016, 09:42:19 AM
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I now saw that every order someone creates costs a fee of at least 0.0003 bitcoin. That's $0.13 for every order. And then you have the restriction of the order staying alive for 6 days only. I guess an order can't be cancelled?

Man, this all disappoints me. I neve got the idea that it would not be possible to establish a normal orderbook on counterparty.

Guess the only option is to handle an orderbook on a thread or on otc or so. :/

For many purposes a traditional exchange is better (faster, free order placement, etc)
The DEX is quite popular for trading Spells of Genesis cards. It enables you to trade cards with anyone online at no risk.

In Counterwallet you can set the expiration through settings. The fee is unfortunately not possible to change in the GUI. If it is $0.13 I believe most of it is redeemable multisig.

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March 14, 2016, 10:42:57 AM
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I now saw that every order someone creates costs a fee of at least 0.0003 bitcoin. That's $0.13 for every order. And then you have the restriction of the order staying alive for 6 days only. I guess an order can't be cancelled?

Man, this all disappoints me. I neve got the idea that it would not be possible to establish a normal orderbook on counterparty.

Guess the only option is to handle an orderbook on a thread or on otc or so. :/

For many purposes a traditional exchange is better (faster, free order placement, etc)
The DEX is quite popular for trading Spells of Genesis cards. It enables you to trade cards with anyone online at no risk.

In Counterwallet you can set the expiration through settings. The fee is unfortunately not possible to change in the GUI. If it is $0.13 I believe most of it is redeemable multisig.

You mean most of the fee can be gotten back when it expires?

Well, I'm only surprised that colored coins are not able to create a normal orderbook like on exchanges. Though I don't know much about the tech behind. It's unfortunate since it means everyone has to trade outside of the wallet. I know the dex can be included as a plugin or so but that does not help for the occasional trader. The normal trader searches the orderbook it's empty and that was it for him.

I would not want to use traditional exchanges anymore because of the security risks on there.

NXT is too difficult, high learning curve, and even though shares can be traded there paying out bitcoins as div is complicated and not working out of the box. Naturally, since shares are bound to nxt addresses and not to bitcoin addresses.

When I would use the dex for offering shares, then is it used to trade traditional shares on there too or is it practically only for gaming cards?

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March 15, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
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You mean most of the fee can be gotten back when it expires?
A way to encode Counterparty txs is by using btc multisig. It is redeemable anytime. I don't know any good tools for redeeming multisig dust though. So you better just be patient if you plan on collecting it. I don't know if Counterwallet has switched to op_return for DEX orders. If it has, the fee is likely $0.04.

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If you have a big bulk of shares to sell at a fixed price, then the DEX is excellent IMO. It can be used for crowdfunding for example. It's when the orders need to change rapidly that the DEX comes short. Then better use a traditional exchange.

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March 15, 2016, 10:49:35 PM
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You mean most of the fee can be gotten back when it expires?
A way to encode Counterparty txs is by using btc multisig. It is redeemable anytime. I don't know any good tools for redeeming multisig dust though. So you better just be patient if you plan on collecting it. I don't know if Counterwallet has switched to op_return for DEX orders. If it has, the fee is likely $0.04.

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When I would use the dex for offering shares, then is it used to trade traditional shares on there too or is it practically only for gaming cards?
If you have a big bulk of shares to sell at a fixed price, then the DEX is excellent IMO. It can be used for crowdfunding for example. It's when the orders need to change rapidly that the DEX comes short. Then better use a traditional exchange.

mastercoin had the same issue, someone made some took to run against bitcoin wallet to do this dust sweep up
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March 16, 2016, 09:00:06 AM
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This tool : http://redeem.bitwatch.co/

It generates a raw hex tx. I cannot sign it with Counterwallet.

With https://coinb.in/multisig/ I have been able to verify and sign some raw txs, but not been able to push any signed tx.

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March 16, 2016, 10:58:33 PM
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This tool : http://redeem.bitwatch.co/

It generates a raw hex tx. I cannot sign it with Counterwallet.

With https://coinb.in/multisig/ I have been able to verify and sign some raw txs, but not been able to push any signed tx.


This tool doesn't have working for long time. I hope someone are making new one or fix this.

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March 17, 2016, 01:12:44 PM
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Yes.

http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/03/17/counterparty-brings-ethereum-smart-contracts-bitcoin-blockchain/
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March 17, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
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Anything from the devs themselves?
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March 17, 2016, 02:20:19 PM
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Could Wall Street be on its way to being obsolete? That's a scenario that some cryptocurrency advocates embrace as they attempt to create a new way to sell stocks that doesn't require third-party oversight.
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March 17, 2016, 02:25:41 PM
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I'm waiting on any type of confirmation. This would be such a big deal for both Bitcoin and Counterparty.
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March 17, 2016, 02:34:39 PM
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all is scam  the article must be a thing of throw money Angry

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March 17, 2016, 02:41:03 PM
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all is scam  the article must be a thing of throw money Angry

Either a lie or released prematurely. We will see soon enough.
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March 17, 2016, 02:42:49 PM
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all is scam  the article must be a thing of throw money Angry
Dev should confirm or denied that ,
to stop xcp market collapse

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March 17, 2016, 02:54:03 PM
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XCP price go to 0.009
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March 17, 2016, 02:55:21 PM
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More fake whales pump volume, neato.
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March 17, 2016, 02:58:34 PM
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XCP price go to 0.009
I hope you are correct 10-20 minutes ago i saw a huge panic sale on polo and some of them are start crying in the troll box
as i expect if dev is not wake up with yes or no to the coming news this coin will be priceless for long time from now

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March 17, 2016, 03:07:29 PM
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http://counterpartynews.com/

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March 17, 2016, 03:13:23 PM
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XCP price go to 0.009
I hope you are correct 10-20 minutes ago i saw a huge panic sale on polo and some of them are start crying in the troll box
as i expect if dev is not wake up with yes or no to the coming news this coin will be priceless for long time from now

Dev already responded in SLACK:

Robby Dermody [1:38 PM]
no official release will be forthcoming. we’ve been discussing this feature internally, but can’t publicly comment on it at this time. newsBTC ran with an article they shouldn’t have
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March 17, 2016, 03:14:12 PM
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https://news.bitcoin.com/counterparty-supports-segwit-adds-blocktrail-cto-team/

Counterparty Supports SegWit, Adds BlockTrail CTO to Team
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March 17, 2016, 03:24:02 PM
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I hope you are correct 10-20 minutes ago i saw a huge panic sale on polo and some of them are start crying in the troll box
as i expect if dev is not wake up with yes or no to the coming news this coin will be priceless for long time from now

that's what you wanted to buy a cheap coin Tongue
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