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February 13, 2014, 07:22:31 PM |
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Okay, so it sent it back to myself? I was sending the XCP to myself, so it was a little hard to tell.
But does that mean that whenever I send XCP from an address, all the BTC will be emptied from it temporarily?
isn't that how bitcoin work? when you spend from an address, the whole amount has to go, and change will be back if any Yes, that's a limitation of Bitcoin, but there are workarounds. For instance, you can keep lots of small unspent outputs around in case you need to make several transactions from one address at once.
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February 13, 2014, 07:23:56 PM |
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I think that I have fixed this issue (and the bad credit for 9.27 XCP doesn't show up anymore). Now, when an order match expires, if each underlying order is still valid, that order goes back on the books with replenished give_remaining and get_remaining, and only otherwise (if the order is expired) is its source credited immediately.
Attention: balances are now slightly different in develop. (A few people were getting extra XCP with order match cancellations.)
Great job Phantom! That could have been a disastrous bug. Should this be pushed to master immediately as a hotfix? I could imagine an attacker making a series of orders with very short expiration, matching them himself, and then generating an infinite amount of XCP which he would then dump at a low price to unsuspecting buyers. Good catch BiggestFish... !
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February 13, 2014, 08:07:27 PM |
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Is there an official XCP coin graphic that we can send to poloniex, all the other coins have graphics on front page of https://www.poloniex.com/XCP is already on the pending orders page there! Seems like very soon we can trade XCP on normal exchange coinmarketcap here we come! To speed up this matter, perhaps any of the below can be temporary used: http://take.ms/BASGm(These are some initial logo mock-ups we did for XCP some time ago - they are not officially endorsed by XCP team in any way). I tried quick coin icons too now,welcome to use temporarily until graphic designer turn up https://i.imgur.com/jjYtoEg.jpgi much prefer till now the plain style logos though, like diagonal stripe above black/white Theres a thread of logos people were making. I found a very good one there in particular. Ill edit my post with the link when I find it. is this the one u r refering to? https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,28.0.htmlI like the one in https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,28.msg71.html#msg71The two arrows are very clean and cool looking. Maybe someone who can photoshop can make a coin icon out of these that match the dimensions on poloniex.com's front page
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February 13, 2014, 08:27:21 PM |
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Okay, so it sent it back to myself? I was sending the XCP to myself, so it was a little hard to tell.
But does that mean that whenever I send XCP from an address, all the BTC will be emptied from it temporarily?
isn't that how bitcoin work? when you spend from an address, the whole amount has to go, and change will be back if any Yes, that's a limitation of Bitcoin, but there are workarounds. For instance, you can keep lots of small unspent outputs around in case you need to make several transactions from one address at once. Exactly how BTC transactions work is not something I know much about, but from the view of the user, this doesn't happen--it doesn't show up in listtransactions, and you can keep spending. I guess the BTC wallet handles all this stuff automatically. At any rate, what I'm getting out of this is if I try to send XCP twice in a row, I won't be able to the second time, because there won't be enough BTC in the account. How do I keep unspent outputs around? I'm not sure what the term means, technically. I don't suppose it would help if I funded the withdrawal account with many small transactions instead of one big 1 BTC one?
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February 13, 2014, 08:44:13 PM |
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Okay, so it sent it back to myself? I was sending the XCP to myself, so it was a little hard to tell.
But does that mean that whenever I send XCP from an address, all the BTC will be emptied from it temporarily?
isn't that how bitcoin work? when you spend from an address, the whole amount has to go, and change will be back if any Yes, that's a limitation of Bitcoin, but there are workarounds. For instance, you can keep lots of small unspent outputs around in case you need to make several transactions from one address at once. Exactly how BTC transactions work is not something I know much about, but from the view of the user, this doesn't happen--it doesn't show up in listtransactions, and you can keep spending. I guess the BTC wallet handles all this stuff automatically. At any rate, what I'm getting out of this is if I try to send XCP twice in a row, I won't be able to the second time, because there won't be enough BTC in the account. How do I keep unspent outputs around? I'm not sure what the term means, technically. I don't suppose it would help if I funded the withdrawal account with many small transactions instead of one big 1 BTC one? Yes, that is correct. You can fund the withdrawal account with many small transactions instead of one big 1 BTC.
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February 13, 2014, 09:24:27 PM |
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Is there an official XCP coin graphic that we can send to poloniex, all the other coins have graphics on front page of https://www.poloniex.com/XCP is already on the pending orders page there! Seems like very soon we can trade XCP on normal exchange coinmarketcap here we come! To speed up this matter, perhaps any of the below can be temporary used: http://take.ms/BASGm(These are some initial logo mock-ups we did for XCP some time ago - they are not officially endorsed by XCP team in any way). I tried quick coin icons too now,welcome to use temporarily until graphic designer turn up https://i.imgur.com/jjYtoEg.jpgi much prefer till now the plain style logos though, like diagonal stripe above black/white Theres a thread of logos people were making. I found a very good one there in particular. Ill edit my post with the link when I find it. is this the one u r refering to? https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,28.0.htmlI like the one in https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,28.msg71.html#msg71The two arrows are very clean and cool looking. Maybe someone who can photoshop can make a coin icon out of these that match the dimensions on poloniex.com's front page +1 I like the arrows design too
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February 13, 2014, 10:31:53 PM |
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I hope a major Bitcoin fix hits mainstream news and fast. This slow death is scary man.. People cashing out but no new money coming in.
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February 13, 2014, 10:39:06 PM |
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Let's just say hypothetically that Bitcoin died.. or at least crashed enough to where it lost traction and people stopped mining it so much, hashrates dropped out of the sky etc., (let's just say) ;|
Ok..
Could we uproot XCP out of BTC, but first like make announcement, ok we're going to make an image of all XCP current balances say, at some arbitrary time X ahead of the furthest bet/trade expiration so as to not let anyone get caught in the door.
So the deadline hits and we have an image of which BTC addresses have which balances, then we have each address owner send a small amount of bitcoin say, 0.0002 ? to some address with a message attached that is in a format as such that a "bot" would be able to see where the bitcoin came from match it with the address in the database and corresponding balance from the image taken and transfer some corresponding balance in XCP based on some projected "maximum coins amount" to provide XCP or some other named coin that the XCP team now uses on another block chain, perhaps a temporary block chain made by Counterparty team.. or maybe plugging into some existing blockchain with high volume and hashrate...
Perhaps waiting until Ethereum comes along and then uprooting again and moving everyone over to ethereum.
I would assume in theory something like this would have to be possible. There has to be a way to uproot and perform major changes and not **** everyone out of their XCP.
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February 13, 2014, 10:50:11 PM |
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Let's just say hypothetically that Bitcoin died.. or at least crashed enough to where it lost traction and people stopped mining it so much, hashrates dropped out of the sky etc., (let's just say) ;|
Ok..
Could we uproot XCP out of BTC, but first like make announcement, ok we're going to make an image of all XCP current balances say, at some arbitrary time X ahead of the furthest bet/trade expiration so as to not let anyone get caught in the door.
So the deadline hits and we have an image of which BTC addresses have which balances, then we have each address owner send a small amount of bitcoin say, 0.0002 ? to some address with a message attached that is in a format as such that a "bot" would be able to see where the bitcoin came from match it with the address in the database and corresponding balance from the image taken and transfer some corresponding balance in XCP based on some projected "maximum coins amount" to provide XCP or some other named coin that the XCP team now uses on another block chain, perhaps a temporary block chain made by Counterparty team.. or maybe plugging into some existing blockchain with high volume and hashrate...
Perhaps waiting until Ethereum comes along and then uprooting again and moving everyone over to ethereum.
I would assume in theory something like this would have to be possible. There has to be a way to uproot and perform major changes and not **** everyone out of their XCP.
I am sure everyone's XCP will be safe. We can always get an account snapshot at specific block number and switch over to a new blockchain, either standalone or on top of something like NXT or DOGE. Maybe XCP is frozen during the migration, but we are talking insanely improbably scenarios. I wouldnt spend much time worrying about the demise of bitcoin This is a flaw that has been known and people were warned. Lazy exchange programmers didnt bother to update and make sure they were immune to this attack. BTC itself is fine, it is the exchanges that were lax that is the problem. Imagine if banks ignored warnings by their vault company that there was an exploit and they had to take measures to prevent it. They didn't and the money is gone. Whose fault is this? Do we then say, we dont use the money that was in the bank because of this? How does that make any sense?
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February 14, 2014, 12:54:30 AM |
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Is there an official XCP coin graphic that we can send to poloniex, all the other coins have graphics on front page of https://www.poloniex.com/XCP is already on the pending orders page there! Seems like very soon we can trade XCP on normal exchange coinmarketcap here we come! To speed up this matter, perhaps any of the below can be temporary used: http://take.ms/BASGm(These are some initial logo mock-ups we did for XCP some time ago - they are not officially endorsed by XCP team in any way). I tried quick coin icons too now,welcome to use temporarily until graphic designer turn up https://i.imgur.com/jjYtoEg.jpgi much prefer till now the plain style logos though, like diagonal stripe above black/white Theres a thread of logos people were making. I found a very good one there in particular. Ill edit my post with the link when I find it. is this the one u r refering to? https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,28.0.htmlI like the one in https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,28.msg71.html#msg71The two arrows are very clean and cool looking. Maybe someone who can photoshop can make a coin icon out of these that match the dimensions on poloniex.com's front page +1 I like the arrows design too Iterations on the arrows. Tweaked the line strokes because thin widths like that don't reproduce well on an actual logo. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9YcshtI.png&t=665&c=0gqNCP55RSi8aQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD8QBGns.png&t=665&c=zI4GS6icP6Yoyg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fchf8k0F.png&t=665&c=aKHeNPCcB-r2Iw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuuaQ7n9.png&t=665&c=Mp8_L162ng8SDQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDrXJXAn.png&t=665&c=opUdMj9yOXI5DA) I imagine anything now is temporary until we get a proper website redesign done.
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February 14, 2014, 01:01:57 AM |
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Exchange solution: - Buy Nxtchg
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February 14, 2014, 01:02:16 AM |
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192px versions: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvpp6c7X.png&t=665&c=SkcgsDwztD7rSw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FygzCD2X.png&t=665&c=1-wZimWEy4xQKg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV1HUkVJ.png&t=665&c=jp2GiJWvjzUC1g) I will make source Illustrator files available if there is interest.
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February 14, 2014, 01:42:48 AM |
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Thank you. will test this out later, need to get qt setup again Exchange solution: - Buy Nxtchg
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if this interests anyone & another trusted member wished to split the costs, I'd consider this. I think the DEX has it's own merit though, and it's being added to poloniex 192px versions: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvpp6c7X.png&t=665&c=SkcgsDwztD7rSw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FygzCD2X.png&t=665&c=1-wZimWEy4xQKg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV1HUkVJ.png&t=665&c=jp2GiJWvjzUC1g) I will make source Illustrator files available if there is interest. Great logo. can't decide between 1 + 2 colorways.
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February 14, 2014, 01:45:20 AM |
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Can someone tell me why I might get this response when sending XCP?
{"jsonrpc": "2.0", "id": "0", "error": {"message": "Server error", "code": -32000, "data": {"message": "{'message': 'TX rejected', 'code': -22}", "args": ["{'message': 'TX rejected', 'code': -22}"], "type": "BitcoindError"}}}
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February 14, 2014, 02:00:32 AM |
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I have to shut off my internet because I'm moving, but bitcoind -reindex is still running.... What's the timeout ? Is there one ? If I disconnect and then connect to my phones 4G/LTE (very fast) hotspot.. will it just pick up where it left off ? Or once I lost connection am I hosed or ?
Can anyone shed light on that?
bitcoind -reindex has been running for more than 48 hours I believe.
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February 14, 2014, 02:05:49 AM |
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192px versions: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvpp6c7X.png&t=665&c=SkcgsDwztD7rSw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FygzCD2X.png&t=665&c=1-wZimWEy4xQKg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV1HUkVJ.png&t=665&c=jp2GiJWvjzUC1g) I will make source Illustrator files available if there is interest. I like the first one!
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February 14, 2014, 02:21:36 AM |
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Can someone tell me why I might get this response when sending XCP?
{"jsonrpc": "2.0", "id": "0", "error": {"message": "Server error", "code": -32000, "data": {"message": "{'message': 'TX rejected', 'code': -22}", "args": ["{'message': 'TX rejected', 'code': -22}"], "type": "BitcoindError"}}}
Yeah, this just isn't going through. Syntax to counterpartyd is correct, in fact it's exactly the same as a previously successful transaction. Here is the raw transaction counterpartyd produces--rejected by bitcoind: 01000000028705906200b0d11087997cd3a29988febeefae3acd9b50210ae46defc49a6b1802000 00000ffffffffa3223ec192a0fbcdc12767b2f58ffaf2c518e8e36360157d3def6b52dd542d4b00 00000000ffffffff036c2a0000000000001976a91435ee14d3ff8ece097df4b5e5370d6908120bf 79688ac6c2a0000000000004751210326594aabcc23ade1f4d35641dec0461c89be318d6939ccd1 169cdeb7721fe6d0211c434e5452505254590000000000000000000000010000000002faf080000 0000052aed0070000000000001976a9140ea4be0d9f68eb471159d30516252cf49d8607f588ac00 000000
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February 14, 2014, 03:07:37 AM |
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Should I be posting in the Counterparty forums instead?
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