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February 15, 2014, 07:49:57 PM |
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Next step: trustless feeds.
How for instance create a trustless quotefeed for BTC/LTC?
Trustless = decentralized. So, build a feed publisher straight into counterpartyd somehow?
Any price of any asset or any outcome of any bet that is to be published fully automated and trustless inevitably must come from one or more electronically published sources. That's because the information has to be available to everyone and needs to be accessible algorithmically.
A price source can be some stream or even a web page. All peers can look up a price themselves and feed it to the network. A price should only be valid and published if for instance 2/3 of the processing power of the network is in agreement. (Else, no price should be published and any bets or trades depending on this feed should be unwinded. This however should be a rare event as most of the time all peers will be in agreement since the price source they use is hard-coded and the same for all. Processing power can be measured by some proof of work mechanism.)
Now the problem is reduced to finding trustless publisher. Who can be trusted to publish a truthful price? I think the answer is to pick prices from multiple sources. For instance, the price of LTC can be some weighted average of the price (time-weighted) taken from multiple exchanges. Exchanges may cooperate with Counterparty and publish a time weighted price of LTC on a web page every hour so all peers see the same price.
Similarly the price for Gold or any other asset can be hard-coded to be looked up hourly at several websites such as Yahoo, Kitco, Google Finance, Bloomberg etc. When in agreement sufficiently, it could be accepted as a valid quote and fed to the network. If peers are in agreement (2/3 rule) then the price becomes final and is published.
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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kdrop22
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February 15, 2014, 08:13:05 PM |
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+1 Everyone , please help improve the exposure of this wonderful protocol.
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Robert Lewandowski
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February 15, 2014, 08:46:49 PM |
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What makes this so special?
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PhantomPhreak (OP)
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February 15, 2014, 09:03:43 PM |
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error while starting counterpartyd server v0.5 bitcoin 0.8.6
File "C:\counterpartyd_build\dist\counterpartyd\lib\util.py", line 280, in versions_ch eck lib.exceptions.DatabaseVersionError: Unable to check client, database versions. How’s yo ur Internet access?
internet access is ok
Me too, somebody knowledgeable, please help us. Are you still having this issue?
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February 15, 2014, 09:22:53 PM |
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What makes this so special?
Counterparty has achieved more in the last month than Mastercoin in its history. Not only that, Counterparty did it in a way where the distribution of the coin doesn't line the pockets of the developers. If there is a fairer 2nd generation launch, I don't know of one.
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ojman28
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February 15, 2014, 09:23:17 PM |
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What makes this so special?
Proof of burn Fairer distribution Escrow service - which means you can trade directly with buyer/seller - You can place bets for a football game - Asset exchange, issue shares, dividends Uses Bitcoin blockchain and many more..
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February 15, 2014, 09:23:40 PM |
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Another possible exchange goal - Vault of Satoshi: Next Time on The Vault... Over the course of February and March, we'll have a lot of exciting announcements to make. Here's a sneak peek at what's around the corner for VoS: Coin-to-coin trading -- no more pesky fiat required! Authy two-factor authentication More coins -- Mastercoin and NXT Market orders, and shorting if you're lucky Multilingual support -- Parlez-vous français? Mais oui! More user interface improvements -- you can never be too pretty Generally, more awesomeness to come
I suggest people contact them at hello@vaultofsatoshi.com ( https://www.vaultofsatoshi.com/contact) and ask to show some love for XCP as well!
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February 15, 2014, 09:36:41 PM |
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hi everyone, i need help setting up counterpartyd on linux. i have running instances that i would like to run counterpartyd on. there is a small bounty pm me If counterparty build of xnova don't work, you can make something like that : virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3 counterparty_env
source counterparty_env/bin/activate
pip install appdirs==1.2.0 prettytable==0.7.2 python-dateutil==2.2 requests==2.1.0 cherrypy==3.2.4 json-rpc==1.1 pycoin==0.25 pytest==2.5.1
wget https://sqlite.org/2014/sqlite-autoconf-3080301.tar.gz
tar -xvzf sqlite-autoconf-3080301.tar.gz cd sqlite-autoconf-3080301 ./configure make make install cd ..
pip install https://github.com/rogerbinns/apsw/archive/master.zip
et voila! thank you for your response. this is what i got when i ran it: http://gyazo.com/a1f973ef900986dc230740e8bc70b54chow do i proceed? Like the message says don't run counterpartyd with root user. Do something like this: adduser counterparty chown -r counterparty:counterparty ./ sudo counterparty
screen -S counterpartyd ./counterpartyd
ctrl+a+d to detach the screen and "screen -r counterpartyd" to attach it. You can also make a service with: https://github.com/xnova/counterpartyd_build/blob/master/dist/linux/init/counterpartyd.conf.template
thank you again for your help. when i run it as a non root user it still says: http://gyazo.com/7e7482dfbbee8b28a88be00a74028ff5what could cause this? pp xnova cityiglut biggest fish anyone?
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Matt Y
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February 15, 2014, 09:39:32 PM |
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What makes this so special?
Counterparty is a community created protocol, which allows anyone to make and use decentralized financial assets that utilize the bitcoin protocol as a transport layer in order to provide the following functionalities: - Distributed exchange - Financial derivatives - User created assets - Dividends - Betting Counterparty differs from projects that hope to eventually offer a similar functionality because: - Fully functioning - We are live. - No IPO - Counterparty is a currency, not a corporation. - No funding - Donation driven. - No corporate ties - Free from outside influences. - No fees - Free to use. - No hype - The technology speaks for itself. - Anonymous creators - Focus is on the protocol. - Fair initial distribution - Risk and opportunity were shared equally. - Development speed - Created from scratch in about a month. - Open source - Anyone can add additional functionality.
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bitcointodayand
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February 15, 2014, 09:58:15 PM |
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Where can I buy counterparty?
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xnova
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February 15, 2014, 10:09:47 PM |
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pp xnova cityiglut biggest fish anyone? You are running the command with "sudo", which means that you are running it as root. Don't type "sudo" before the command.
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bitcointodayand
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February 15, 2014, 10:07:17 PM |
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Or how does one acquire it. Thank you.
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ojman28
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February 15, 2014, 10:08:37 PM |
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February 15, 2014, 10:09:18 PM |
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Where can I buy counterparty?
The 'true' way is to buy via the DEX, which currently requires installing Bitcoin-QT and counterpartyd an easier way for new users is to use a centralised exchange. Poloniex lists XCP here https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_xcp
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February 15, 2014, 10:13:12 PM Last edit: February 15, 2014, 10:30:58 PM by jimhsu |
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Where can I buy counterparty?
Centralized (best for newbies): https://www.poloniex.com/exchangeDecentralized (best if you already have some): install counterpartyd, and view the order list: http://www.blockscan.com/order_book.aspx(wow, triple post).
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xnova
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February 15, 2014, 10:36:30 PM |
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pp xnova cityiglut biggest fish anyone? You are running the command with "sudo", which means that you are effectively running it as root. Don't type "sudo" before the command.
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ojman28
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February 15, 2014, 11:10:32 PM |
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What makes this so special?
Counterparty is a community created protocol, which allows anyone to make and use decentralized financial assets that utilize the bitcoin protocol as a transport layer in order to provide the following functionalities: - Distributed exchange - Financial derivatives - User created assets - Dividends - Betting Counterparty differs from projects that hope to eventually offer a similar functionality because: - Fully functioning - We are live. - No IPO - Counterparty is a currency, not a corporation. - No funding - Donation driven. - No corporate ties - Free from outside influences. - No fees - Free to use. - No hype - The technology speaks for itself. - Anonymous creators - Focus is on the protocol. - Fair initial distribution - Risk and opportunity were shared equally. - Development speed - Created from scratch in about a month. - Open source - Anyone can add additional functionality. +1 Yeah, no hype. True, but we need to market to bring many people on board.
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