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Author Topic: Coinye [KOI/COYE] You can't kill a gayfish.  (Read 715696 times)
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January 09, 2014, 01:22:26 AM
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Here's what I think happens with these popular, highly anticipated coins with lots of Mhash at multiple pools.

Each of the large pools start mining based off of the current block chain.   Because the difficulty is so low, block generations are occurring nearly instantly.   Meanwhile, the network, users and pools are ddosing each other trying to get connections and updates.    Competing block chains don't have enough time to propagate globally before N more blocks are found locally in a pool.    So, each local pool has a block chain that could potentially stay longer than the updates that it is seeing from elsewhere.   Other smaller pools and users are getting updates from these competing pools and either sticking with the closest/longest or switching back and forth.  

As the difficulty goes up and speed of block generation finally goes down, you eventually get a more globally consistent block chain.   However, potentially the vast majority of users find that they didn't get on the longest eventual chain and suddenly their coins disappear.

I would say that the solution probably lies in either much better pool communication (even under ddos type conditions) and/or raising the starting difficulty and slowing block generation to a liveable level quickly.  If you don't have a globally consistent block chain then these coin launches are going to keep looking bad and anger a lot of participants.

Would love to hear other's thoughts.

I think you're right

I would agree, but we were finding absolutely no blocks in that time. The pool did find stale shares which were reported on the frontend, and in between the 1000% rounds there were brief 2-3 blocks around 30-300%

So, the front end was updating like it should, matching with the shares I was submitting and the shares of the pool. No blocks though...


I wonder if some of the smaller pools were constantly playing catchup with new blocks found by larger pools and by the time their participants completed all work on a block, that block was already stale.   It would be like a constant live-lock.   Again, another degenerate symptom of too fast block generation and insufficient blockchain syncing time.

Maybe? We will likely never know the real cause. I do run --no-submit-stale on some of my rigs, it's possible they just never got sent to the pool.

But at the time icyhash was one of the few pools up, I'd wager that it was one of the largest. I didn't take any screenshots or anything, and I wasn't paying close attention, but I think the pool hashrate got over 5gh/s for a time.

After the pool owners actions, I wouldn't mine for him again. I did manage to get coins from him, but that's because I know the wallet doesn't need to sync to get a payout address (tip for next time! Keep the wallet.dat)


We never went past 750MH/s. I was waiting for it to hit 1GH/s. Would you like the block log or anything you can use to try and figure out what happened?

I see, I do remember the total network being over 11gh/s so maybe that had something to do with it.

I'm not pro enough to do anything with any logs, but I imagine someone on this forum can. Might be a good thing to figure out since your dead set on more pools.  

I wish it was 11 GH/s. I was jumping up and down when I saw 750 MH/s. Mining pools are a lot of fun, that's why I'm dead set. It's not really about making a profit... It's just a fun hobby Smiley
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January 09, 2014, 01:27:16 AM
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any working nodes now? wallet stopped syncing
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January 09, 2014, 01:27:26 AM
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Sooo... How much BTC or LTC for 1126 COYEs?  Grin
I have a mean machine that's doing 11 khps Wink

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January 09, 2014, 01:28:22 AM
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any working nodes now? wallet stopped syncing

addnode=37.187.93.104
addnode=23.253.71.20
addnode=94.242.254.73
addnode=24.20.187.178
addnode=37.59.31.34
addnode=37.59.54.28
addnode=62.212.72.31
addnode=teamcoinye.com
addnode=198.245.63.111
addnode=72.46.130.53
addnode=108.168.55.170
addnode=94.242.254.73
addnode=199.241.191.148
addnode=37.187.93.104
addnode=23.253.71.20
addnode=94.242.254.73
addnode=24.20.187.178
addnode=37.59.31.34
addnode=37.59.54.28
addnode=62.212.72.31
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January 09, 2014, 01:31:12 AM
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PM me your offer for COYE to BTC/LTC!!  Shocked
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January 09, 2014, 01:31:45 AM
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any working nodes now? wallet stopped syncing
 

My conf file this work for me


addnode=37.187.93.104
addnode=23.253.71.20
addnode=94.242.254.73
addnode=24.20.187.178
addnode=37.59.31.34
addnode=37.59.54.28
addnode=62.212.72.31
addnode=198.245.63.111
addnode=199.241.191.148
addnode=72.46.130.53
addnode=23.253.71.20:41338
addnode=148.251.11.238:41338
addnode=162.220.61.78:41338
addnode=188.115.182.34:41338
addnode=50.152.213.185:41338
server=1
daemon=1
listen=1
maxconnections=900




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January 09, 2014, 01:35:30 AM
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Well, apparently my 500k coinye was stolen from the bitember pool. Was just about to cash out when I saw a manual payout to some unknown address. Still not sure if I was hacked or if they were. Pretty depressed... was excited to finally make a small profit off a coin release.

Taking charity :/

5nLqndbnH8sb1fnGJuHv3k9ehpSKBTNZ85

(Anyone else have a similar problem on bitember?)

1. are you on a windoz pc?
2. did you scan you PC for malware, virus?

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January 09, 2014, 01:37:40 AM
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selling 5 Million Coinyes for  3 BTC or 100 LTC

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January 09, 2014, 01:37:53 AM
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any working nodes now? wallet stopped syncing
 

My conf file this work for me


addnode=37.187.93.104
addnode=23.253.71.20
addnode=94.242.254.73
addnode=24.20.187.178
addnode=37.59.31.34
addnode=37.59.54.28
addnode=62.212.72.31
addnode=198.245.63.111
addnode=199.241.191.148
addnode=72.46.130.53
addnode=23.253.71.20:41338
addnode=148.251.11.238:41338
addnode=162.220.61.78:41338
addnode=188.115.182.34:41338
addnode=50.152.213.185:41338
server=1
daemon=1
listen=1
maxconnections=900




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And if that doesn't work try portforwarding in your router on port 41338 and your computer networkadres. Works for me and have now 78 connections.
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January 09, 2014, 01:42:15 AM
Last edit: January 09, 2014, 02:09:24 AM by userpacman
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Got 750k and I'm selling 250k COYE. PM me offers in LTC/BTC or post here!

Sold to Jharkness user, multiple smooth transcations. Should I hold 500k ?

Join our DOPE pool - 1% fee - register now!
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January 09, 2014, 01:44:44 AM
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sell 1.2m coye 1 btc or pm me with offers

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January 09, 2014, 01:48:43 AM
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Just received my coins from spork985 he is not a scammer. Thanks!
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January 09, 2014, 01:49:11 AM
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selling 1.2 milion coye for 1 btc....pm me.....................

BTC : bc1qqz9hvv806w2zs42mx4rn576whxmr202yxp00e9

feel free to buy me a bear
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January 09, 2014, 01:50:49 AM
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Just received my coins from spork985 he is not a scammer. Thanks!
seems legit Smiley)
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January 09, 2014, 01:53:59 AM
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Just received my coins from spork985 he is not a scammer. Thanks!
seems legit Smiley)

absolutly  Grin



selling 5 Million Coinyes for  3 BTC or 100 LTC

still selling Smiley  you can take 2,5 mil too or lower.

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January 09, 2014, 01:56:07 AM
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Just received my coins from spork985 he is not a scammer. Thanks!
seems legit Smiley)

absolutly  Grin


Thanks for helping to clear this up guys. I hope I can bring you more stable and reliable pools in the future.
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January 09, 2014, 02:02:20 AM
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WTS 1.76M for 1 BTC, PM ME
can you give me a little

5fYdSeE776fW5ghLkmyYoq2RwqdzcDHUjC

thanks

Can someone explain this whole crypto-begging thing to me? I don't get it.

Alts bumping their offers or people really cold asking for coins?
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January 09, 2014, 02:04:31 AM
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 What happened to all the pools both steady pools just went down? coinyechain & dedicatedpool both down
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January 09, 2014, 02:05:34 AM
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WTS 1.76M for 1 BTC, PM ME
can you give me a little

5fYdSeE776fW5ghLkmyYoq2RwqdzcDHUjC

thanks

Can someone explain this whole crypto-begging thing to me? I don't get it.

Alts bumping their offers or people really cold asking for coins?

Kids who don't know any better, I think.
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January 09, 2014, 02:07:41 AM
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1.25M COYE for 1 BTC, if interested
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