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April 04, 2011, 01:21:04 PM
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They're having trouble with covert ops funding due to the impending budget shutdown.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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April 04, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
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But drugs are a revenue stream?

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April 04, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
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But drugs are a revenue stream?

Not an official one.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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April 05, 2011, 01:16:01 AM
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This place is waaaay too easy to find, and the operators are personally selling illegal drugs in the united states?? No thanks.
BTW there's a guy selling stolen credit card info on there.....
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April 05, 2011, 01:34:20 AM
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Drugs Huh

I thought this was about trade, you know like the Silk on the Silk Road.

Illegal Drugs Huh  Man, that is worse than just plain old Drugs.

In the U.S., wow, that is really not a smart place to do it. Especially, since the U.S. buys up all the supply of Drugs and Illegal Drugs.

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Seriously, I don't do drugs. Not in favor of them, but there is apparently a supply/demand for them. I would think in this case, it is better to be on the supply side.

Not really sure why one would use the internet.

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April 05, 2011, 02:03:44 AM
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Oops, somebody forgot their whois privacy when they renewed their domain.

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April 05, 2011, 02:11:24 AM
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This place is waaaay too easy to find, and the operators are personally selling illegal drugs in the united states?? No thanks.
BTW there's a guy selling stolen credit card info on there.....

I'd wager you 50 BTC you can't actually find it's physical server location.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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April 05, 2011, 02:13:41 AM
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Oops, somebody forgot their whois privacy when they renewed their domain.

I hope that's not the owner's real info...

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April 05, 2011, 02:18:04 AM
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Oops, somebody forgot their whois privacy when they renewed their domain.

I hope that's not the owner's real info...

I seriously doubt the owner of the visable website is directly connected to whoever runs the Silk Road hidden service on Tor.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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April 05, 2011, 02:39:44 AM
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Oops, somebody forgot their whois privacy when they renewed their domain.

I hope that's not the owner's real info...

I seriously doubt the owner of the visable website is directly connected to whoever runs the Silk Road hidden service on Tor.

Oops, it gets worse. Whoever bought the visible website is hosting it with a US company that is reselling server4you.de services. If someone was silly enough to put the Tor hidden service on that server, thinking it safe since it isn't in the US, they're in for a rude awakening when the US company they're paying the bill to grabs the server's data and hands it over to the FBI. I sincerely hope that whoever is running the show didn't make a mistake like that.

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April 06, 2011, 04:34:51 PM
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Just wanted to jump in to say it's a really interesting idea you have going here.
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April 07, 2011, 04:15:57 AM
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Oops, somebody forgot their whois privacy when they renewed their domain.
talk about amateur hour
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April 07, 2011, 10:11:56 AM
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Oops, somebody forgot their whois privacy when they renewed their domain.
talk about amateur hour

Yeah it isn't like they could have I dunno. Loaded bitcoin with WU with a fake ID via an exchanger in Russia, sent it through a mix, cashed it out to pecunix, bounced it to liberty reserve through an online casino, cashed it out to an anonymous domain name registrar in some third world country through a different exchanger and have a random name with no tie to them in the Whois? Seriously do you think they are so retarded as to ever have their real name anywhere near the hosting or domain registration?

Second of all, oh no the FBI might get the hidden service!! Well that isn't very hard considering they could just add some nodes to the Tor network and open an infinite amount of circuits to the hidden service then send a pattern of modulated packets over the circuits until they detect that pattern going to the entry guard. Detect all of the entry guards and then compromise one to find the hidden service. Tor hidden services are better than nothing but they are not that anonymous, although clients are.

But the thing is why would the FBI do this attack to locate the hidden service (assuming they even can which is doubted since they are a bunch of noobs who can't even trace CP hidden services with the same attack) to locate a server that has nothing but asymmetric encrypted orders on it?HuhHuhHuh? Compromise of the hidden service, although not that difficult to do, is of close to zero benefit to an attacker.
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April 08, 2011, 01:28:55 AM
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or just buy drugs from silk road and correlate the mailing address with known tor users in that area

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April 08, 2011, 11:58:15 AM
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wow,   just had a look at the site.   It got pretty impressive with a large choice of different stuffs.


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April 09, 2011, 11:30:30 PM
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if the market value of BTC is equivalent to the good and services available for BTC then the market value of BTC is going to skyrocket 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_market


There's a 1.5 trillion dollar market for these items but it's until now it's almost all offline using physical cash due to significant legal concerns.

http://www.havocscope.com/ranking/

 

It's not just silk road

Apparently there's a bunch of markets popping up for all sorts of items and silk road is growing rapidly.  He had to shut down the portal page due to the enormous amount of traffic.   As grondilu pointed out "wow, just had a look at the site. It got pretty impressive with a large choice of different stuffs."

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade (look under "psychoactive") 




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April 10, 2011, 12:25:27 PM
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Impressive. How many users does it have? could you post screenshots?

Screenshots of the website?  You can visit a mirror of the tor website by going here: https://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.tor2web.org/

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April 10, 2011, 12:58:08 PM
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I have none experience in this matter but isn't it risky to ship illegal drugs worldwide?
Isn't outgoing mail checked by drug-sniffing dogs some times? At least when shipping from one country to another? Or are drug-dogs more uncommon than I think?
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April 10, 2011, 01:56:05 PM
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I have none experience in this matter but isn't it risky to ship illegal drugs worldwide?
Isn't outgoing mail checked by drug-sniffing dogs some times? At least when shipping from one country to another? Or are drug-dogs more uncommon than I think?

Depending on the country, but the police would have to prove you ordered the stuff and someone didn't 'accidentally' mail it to you. Perhaps an enemy?  Wink If they had the Bitcoin transaction traced to you - then your screwed.

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April 10, 2011, 04:06:05 PM
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I have none experience in this matter but isn't it risky to ship illegal drugs worldwide?
Isn't outgoing mail checked by drug-sniffing dogs some times? At least when shipping from one country to another? Or are drug-dogs more uncommon than I think?

Depending on the country, but the police would have to prove you ordered the stuff and someone didn't 'accidentally' mail it to you. Perhaps an enemy?  Wink If they had the Bitcoin transaction traced to you - then your screwed.



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