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January 11, 2014, 08:00:29 AM
Last edit: March 22, 2014, 04:58:19 AM by dualminer
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03/21/2014 Case study DM2 vs. Radeon HD7970
As you may know, our DualMiner USB 2 (DM2) has a price promation on volume purchase this month. When you purchase 50+ DM2 devices, you pay $61.2 for each DM2 device. I did a quick scrypt mining cost/reward comparision between the DM2 and one GPU (Radeon HD7970) system , and reached a conclusion that the DM2 is alreay neck to neck with Radeon HD7970 when comparing cost/reward matrix. Below is my detail analysis;

Assumptions:
Difficulty is steady
You could get 10 DM2 at $61.2 per device somehow (such as through a groupbuy)

Given Conditions:
Host required to mine is not included in this comparision
External cooling is not included in this comparision
Mining Litecoin and $/LTC convertion rate = $16.94
Electricity cost (KW/Hour) = $0.15
Pool Fee = 2%
Duration for comparision = 375 days
Radeon HD7970 parameters; cost=$310, Hash Rate=700KH/s, Power comsumption=250W
10 DM2 parameters; cost=$612, Hash Rate=700KH/s, Power comsumption=15W
LTC reward calculator used in this analysis; https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

Calculations:
GPU extra electricity fee (/day) = ((250W-15W)*24/1000)*0.15=$0.846/day
GPU extra electricity fee (375 days) = $0.846*375=$317.25
10 DM2 $ reward from 375 days' mining = $743.9 (using calculator https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator)

GPU net reward (at the 375th day) = $743.9-$310-$317.25=$116.65
DM2 net reward (at the 375th day) = $743.9-$612=$131.9

Takeaway point: With the per device price of $61.2, mining Litecoin with DM2 should give you better long term ROI compared to that of Radeon HD7970

03/19/2014 Update
We have updated our DualMiner USB 2 pricing per competition changes. We would like to enable altcoin miners with small mining budgets to be able to participate the exciting mining activities. This pricing will take effect immediately and last for one month or replaced by another new pricing.

* Pricing
Units       US$/unit       Discount
1~9          90      100%
10~49    70.2      78%
50+          61.2      68%

03/06/2014 Update
Introcudtion to DualMiner USB 2  
* Product
DualMiner USB 2 is a simplified version of its predecessor DualMiner USB, which is designed for Litecoin and all kinds of Altcoins mining purposes.
It still contains a single Gridchip (GC3355 processor) chip. It can be setup to mine Litecoin, or Dogecoin, or other scrypt based Altcoins with very low power consumption.

* Hash Performance
Working Mode      BTC      LTC              Power
Scrypt Only      off      70KH/s      1.5W@USB VBUS

* Pricing
Units       US$/unit       Discount
1~9          90      100%
10~49    81      90%
50~499   70.2      78%
>=500   67.5      75%

* Sales/Information
www.dualminer.com.

* Tech Support
http://support.dualminer.com/



02/24/2014 Update
For Linux command line software (open source code), please check following link and get the source codes
https://github.com/dualminer/dualminer-cgminer

We have established a forum for all DualMiner USB product related discussion and exchange. Please go to www.dualminer.com website, then click "support" followed by "forum" http://support.dualminer.com/?page_id=149. We recommend to post your technical problems in this forum for efficient exchanges. We have assigned R&D engineers to monitor the forum very closely.

02/06/2014 Update
Our on-line store www.dualminer.com is ready to take any kinds of orders (small and large alike, domestic and international alike). If your pruchase is equal to $5,000 (US$) or less, you still have three payment methods (credit card, Paypal, and Bitcoin) available  to you, and your payment is only limited to Bitcoin when your purchasing more than $5,000 (US$) worth of devices. For people purchasing with the Bitcoin, the converting (from Bitcoin to US$) will be handled by bitpay automatically. So you final payment amount could be various slightly depending on when you actually place your order on-line.

For international orders, please keep in mind that your orders could take longer to reach you compared to US domestic buyers. Also, because each country's import requirements are various a lot, I am afraid we will not be able to design one single importing form to fit all applications. So when you fill in your shipping address and instruction on-line, please try to provide as many details as possible.
 

[01/22/2014 Update]
* About us
Broadeng Inc. is the exclusive reseller of DualMiner USB products in North America. Broadeng has a close business relationship with its chip provider (Gridchip Inc) and system manufacturing partners in China. We strive to provide high quality Bitcoin and Litecoin mining equipment to our worldwide customers. We will only sell mining products that are in stock.

* Product
DualMiner USB
The DualMiner USB is the world's first ASIC based USB miner for both SHA-256 and Scrypt. It uses a single Gridchip's GC3355 processor chip. It can be setup to mine Litecoin only, or Bitcoin and Litecoin simultaneously.

* Hash Performance (Bounded by USB-IF's USB2.0 specification of Maximum 2.5W power consumption for a device)
Working Mode      BTC             LTC              Power
Dual Mode      500MH/s          40KH/s      2.5W@USB VBUS
LTC Mode              Off                  70KH/s      1.5W@USB VBUS

* Gridchip Chip Specs
Process Node: 55nm
Package Type: QFN64
Packaged Chip Size: 8 mm x 8 mm
Each BTC and LTC core can be enabled or disabled according to the power budget.

* Windows Mining Software
Customized Windows software with GUI will make multi-device mining simple and straightforward.

* Sales
For product and sales details, please visit our website, www.dualminer.com (Our on-line store is still under testing, will update this forum when open to accept orders) . We would like to send a free sample miner to a few honored community members for product review and verification. In return, we ask that you write an independent review of our product for the Bitcoin and Litecoin communities. Please PM your request to "dualminer" in the bitcointalk forum. We will select only a few of the requests and apologize in advance to those who do not receive samples.
There are three color (of heat sink) for customers to choose from (Please check www.dualminer.com for actual sample pictures). We will do our best to meet customers' color preferences, but will ship what is available in stock when running out preferred color stock. Customers could place special order of specific color in 50 units/batch, but special orders could take longer fulfillment time. Please read the "Terms and Conditions" (from www.dualminer.com website) very carefully before making your purchase.

* Price (per unit)
1~9   $98 ea.         Full Price (FP)
10~49   $92.12 ea.      94%FP
50~99   $88.20 ea.      90%FP
100~299 $83.30 ea.      85%FP
>=300   $79.38 ea.      81%FP

*Payment Methods
Bitcoin (Through BitPay)
PayPal,
Credit card

* Contact
Please send your private message to info@dualminer.com. All the messages will be reviewed, however we may not be able to reply to every message.


[01/11/2014 post]
Hello Everyone,

We are new to the forum, but would like to bring an exciting news to this community. We will start to sale the world 1st ASIC based BTC/LTC USB miner, which could mine both Bitcoin and Litecoin at the same time, to US market soon. This USB miner (product name :DualMiner USB) is built with a single Gridchip's (Gridchip Inc. is based in Beijing, China) GC3355 ASIC chip. We will provide more information about the product and purchasing method in near future. The miners are under various testing processes. We have included several real product pictures for you to peek in the coming product.

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January 11, 2014, 08:04:14 AM
Last edit: January 31, 2014, 08:54:18 AM by Beastlymac
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Sample unit has arrived.  Average hash rate of 69.37kh/s







More pictures and video coming soon.

Unboxing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUAuIhDca6w

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January 11, 2014, 08:13:29 AM
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Well, this is my 1st time posting pictures in the forum, so the pictures are too small to see. Let me try to provide better pictures here.

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January 11, 2014, 10:34:36 AM
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Interesting... However the biggest question on anyone's mind is if this is actually legit ??

Well, I would be willing to do a review if you ship me a test unit.

Any timeline of when these will be available?

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Hi mtbitcoin, we do want to setup an evaluating program in near future. Since you are the 1st senior member of the forum asking for evaluation, we will ship you one unit to perform your independent evaluation once we receive our batch shipments.
As to your question of timeline, we are expect to receive our 1st batch of 50 units either next week or week after next.
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Hi mtbitcoin, we do want to setup an evaluating program in near future. Since you are the 1st senior member of the forum asking for evaluation, we will ship you one unit to perform your independent evaluation once we receive our batch shipments.
As to your question of timeline, we are expect to receive our 1st batch of 50 units either next week or week after next.
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Interesting... However the biggest question on anyone's mind is if this is actually legit ??

Well, I would be willing to do a review if you ship me a test unit.

Any timeline of when these will be available?

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+1 will do a review Wink

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UHMMMM!! interesting, GOOD JOB
count with my purchase  Wink Wink

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January 11, 2014, 11:53:01 AM
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I thought scrypt asic's were many months away... this looks awesome!

Any idea what the sha-256 and scrypt performance will be? Will it use your pc's RAM or does it have it's own memory chip for scrypt hashing?

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Hi mtbitcoin, we do want to setup an evaluating program in near future. Since you are the 1st senior member of the forum asking for evaluation, we will ship you one unit to perform your independent evaluation once we receive our batch shipments.
As to your question of timeline, we are expect to receive our 1st batch of 50 units either next week or week after next.

Great! Looking forward to this as to I am sure many others are too

You can pm me for a shipping address when they are available for shipping

Are there any tentative pricing for miners?


[Edit] +1 also if you can include both loshia and goxed as part of your evaluation program

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I hope you guys got a lot of parts to make these things...  you are probably going to sell a metric fuck ton of them lol!  Grin
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I thought scrypt asic's were many months away... this looks awesome!

Any idea what the sha-256 and scrypt performance will be? Will it use your pc's RAM or does it have it's own memory chip for scrypt hashing?

I would assume that the original specifications are as listed here:

Quote
1 GENERAL DESCRIPTION
GC3355 is high performance and low power SHA256 processor designed by GRIDCHIP. With
advanced technology and highly integrated design, GC3355 target to provide multiple function and low
cost solution in SHA256 application fields.
 
Key feature:
 160 BTC Units
 4 LTC Units
 BTC mode up to 2.25G/s BTC Hash Rate, with 2.4W/GHash
 LTC mode up to 60K/s LTC Hash Rate
 Due-Coin mode up to 1.75G/s BTC Hash Rate + 60K/s LTC Hash Rate, or up to 2.25G/s BTC Hash
Rate + 38K LTC Hash Rate
 Highly integrated with PLL and Pre-Calculation Engine
 Support dual configuration and report interface, UART and Custom-Defined 2-Wires Bus
 Support Crystal and Oscillator
 Fully adjustable clock frequency

http://gridseed.com
https://github.com/gridseed/gc3355-doc
https://github.com/gridseed/cpuminer


So in theory 40Watts will produce 1Mh of Scrypt and around 29GH of SHA 256 hashing.


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January 11, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
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Awesome, long as the price is reasonable I would definitely want to order some as well.  I think a lot of us still have powered hubs and fans from the Block Eruptor days gathering dust anyway.   Wink
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January 11, 2014, 01:56:52 PM
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Put me down for testing as well. Also when ready I will be interested in 5-10 of the first batch.

Thanks

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January 11, 2014, 01:58:44 PM
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Awesome, long as the price is reasonable I would definitely want to order some as well.  I think a lot of us still have powered hubs and fans from the Block Eruptor days gathering dust anyway.   Wink
They have them listed for $98 on their website.

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Awesome, long as the price is reasonable I would definitely want to order some as well.  I think a lot of us still have powered hubs and fans from the Block Eruptor days gathering dust anyway.   Wink
They have them listed for $98 on their website.

I was just about to ask if this http://www.dualminer.com/ was their url.

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January 11, 2014, 02:08:59 PM
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Awesome, long as the price is reasonable I would definitely want to order some as well.  I think a lot of us still have powered hubs and fans from the Block Eruptor days gathering dust anyway.   Wink
They have them listed for $98 on their website.

I was just about to ask if this http://www.dualminer.com/ was their url.

Phil

It hasn't been confirmed but i would think that it is.

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January 12, 2014, 07:55:48 AM
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Thank you for all the responses of willing to review DualMiner USB. We will select only a few of honored community members to carry the reviews, and would like to apologize in advance to those who do not receive samples. We will PM those selected people for shipping addresses.
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January 12, 2014, 08:29:37 AM
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I just went to the website to try and buy one but wasn't able to. Got the message "Dualminer Products will be Available Soon!". Can't wait to try one out! Cheesy
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January 12, 2014, 08:32:16 AM
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interested aswell
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