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[etoque]

I'd like to initiate a dashberger meet up in Canada. I'm currently in Montreal taking my Sommelier course... So, if there are any peeps wanting to meet up for a bevie PM me, I'll see if I can wing it with my schedule here.

Oh ! Im a montrealer in my heart,but I live from north side since some years now...

Did you speak french?

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[GhostPlayer]

https://SuchPool.pw/dash

We are back! Fresh new servers, we restored accounts/workers and logins! You can login with your old credentials.


Same old receipe as before:

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Excellent !! Brilliant news! Welcome back SuchPool !! 

[Macrochip]

Current Dash supply: 5.2 million (max. ~22 million)
Current Monero supply: 6.9 million (max. ~18.4 million)

Monero was launched 3 months after Dash and yet it has a higher supply despite having a considerably lower maximum cap.

yeah...higher coin supply = scam

From the horse's mouth

Almost funny. But only almost because an actual list would expose how the devs mined millions of coins with an enhanced version of a miner while they gave crippled miners to naive idiots dumb enough to invest into this shitcoin.

Millions of coins mined by the devs? Nice troll.

The crippled/obfuscated miner, which we had nothing to do with, starting getting fixed by us in github 19 days after launch, was essentially fully uncrippled within a month, and highly optimized within two months. During that entire period of time a total of around 1.5 million coins were mined with a large number verifiably mined by people outside of the developer team (because one group includes a credentialed professor of computer science known by his real name who blogged about it, and in other cases because they publicly sold them OTC).

So, no, millions of coins were not mined by the devs. The total number mined by devs at all, regardless of what miner they used, was clearly far less than 1.5 million, and objectively probably far less than 500k.

I mined a fair amount using the public code which was quite profitable at the time, and you don't  have to take my word for it, there were many, many posts from many different people about how profitable the mining was.

It sure was fun countertrolling a little, using their own tactics and provoking a response
But the content is even more interesting: So you fixed the crippled miner made by someone else? You even made it "better"?! Why? What about your own miner? If mining was profitable enough with it, why spend more of your unpaid time (as you keep using as an excuse for non-progress!) to fix and even improve the crap someone else created? Makes no sense.

Also: Explain the higher coin supply. You keep throwing shit at DASH for a bug and yet there's more Monero out there than DASH despite being 3 months younger and having a lower cap.

[r4vani]

Total Masternodes: 2457 = 2457 actives + 0 inactives [2197 unique IPs] (Last refresh: Sun Mar 29 2015 1:02:49 PM)
Estimated daily payout for an active node (blocks with MN payments last 24h: 99.62%): 0.2 DASH/day (Last Refreshed: Sun Mar 29 2015 1:02:44 PM)

[qvan]

Current Dash supply: 5.2 million (max. ~22 million)
Current Monero supply: 6.9 million (max. ~18.4 million)

Monero was launched 3 months after Dash and yet it has a higher supply despite having a considerably lower maximum cap.

yeah...higher coin supply = scam

From the horse's mouth

Almost funny. But only almost because an actual list would expose how the devs mined millions of coins with an enhanced version of a miner while they gave crippled miners to naive idiots dumb enough to invest into this shitcoin.

Millions of coins mined by the devs? Nice troll.

The crippled/obfuscated miner, which we had nothing to do with, starting getting fixed by us in github 19 days after launch, was essentially fully uncrippled within a month, and highly optimized within two months. During that entire period of time a total of around 1.5 million coins were mined with a large number verifiably mined by people outside of the developer team (because one group includes a credentialed professor of computer science known by his real name who blogged about it, and in other cases because they publicly sold them OTC).

So, no, millions of coins were not mined by the devs. The total number mined by devs at all, regardless of what miner they used, was clearly far less than 1.5 million, and objectively probably far less than 500k.

I mined a fair amount using the public code which was quite profitable at the time, and you don't  have to take my word for it, there were many, many posts from many different people about how profitable the mining was.

It sure was fun countertrolling a little, using their own tactics and provoking a response
But the content is even more interesting: So you fixed the crippled miner made by someone else? You even made it "better"?! Why? What about your own miner? If mining was profitable enough with it, why spend more of your unpaid time (as you keep using as an excuse for non-progress!) to fix and even improve the crap someone else created? Makes no sense.

Also: Explain the higher coin supply. You keep throwing shit at DASH for a bug and yet there's more Monero out there than DASH despite being 3 months younger and having a lower cap.

i said higher coin supply is not = scam .....got problem again with your senses? maybe masternodes are too much for your brain..just use 8086 that would suffice.

more coins will make coins cheaper because of supply and demand ratio, that is not a scam.

smooth will smooth you out on the details

[smooth]

Current Dash supply: 5.2 million (max. ~22 million)
Current Monero supply: 6.9 million (max. ~18.4 million)

Monero was launched 3 months after Dash and yet it has a higher supply despite having a considerably lower maximum cap.

yeah...higher coin supply = scam

From the horse's mouth

Almost funny. But only almost because an actual list would expose how the devs mined millions of coins with an enhanced version of a miner while they gave crippled miners to naive idiots dumb enough to invest into this shitcoin.

Millions of coins mined by the devs? Nice troll.

The crippled/obfuscated miner, which we had nothing to do with, starting getting fixed by us in github 19 days after launch, was essentially fully uncrippled within a month, and highly optimized within two months. During that entire period of time a total of around 1.5 million coins were mined with a large number verifiably mined by people outside of the developer team (because one group includes a credentialed professor of computer science known by his real name who blogged about it, and in other cases because they publicly sold them OTC).

So, no, millions of coins were not mined by the devs. The total number mined by devs at all, regardless of what miner they used, was clearly far less than 1.5 million, and objectively probably far less than 500k.

I mined a fair amount using the public code which was quite profitable at the time, and you don't  have to take my word for it, there were many, many posts from many different people about how profitable the mining was.

It sure was fun countertrolling a little, using their own tactics and provoking a response
But the content is even more interesting: So you fixed the crippled miner made by someone else? You even made it "better"?! Why? What about your own miner?

You're obviously pretty uninformed about Monero, which is not meant as an insult by any means. After all it is just one of many coins and perhaps one that doesn't interest you, fair enough.

FYI, Monero was forked from Bytecoin, after it was discovered that Bytecoin had a fraudulent 82% premine. The exiting code came from Bytecoin. It was only after we dug into it that we discovered (as did others) that it had been deliberately obfuscated and deoptimized by the Bytecoin developers. If you're really interested in all this, there are various posts and threads and whatnot where you can learn more, but that is well covered elsewhere so no need to go into all the details here.

If mining was profitable enough with it, why spend more of your unpaid time (as you keep using as an excuse for non-progress!) to fix and even improve the crap someone else created? Makes no sense.

Because, as I said, once we dug into the code from Bytecoin, we realized that it was obfuscated and deoptimized (such as repeating a very expensive initialization step inside an inner loop). We also started to learn that others were running optimized miners, from statements being made on IRC, forum posts, and just observing the hash rate, so we worked on optimizing it to try to keep the playing field as level as possible and not cause most of the miners to just give up. It was only because of the ongoing efforts to optimize the public miner that it maintained some semblance of competitiveness and remained profitable. For the same reason we organized a bounty for an open source GPU miner, which was released around the same time.

Also: Explain the higher coin supply. You keep throwing shit at DASH for a bug and yet there's more Monero out there than DASH despite being 3 months younger and having a lower cap.

One reason would be that Monero has never reduced its rate of supply, because we stuck with the social contract even when the supply was a bit high for the market (causing dumping), and big investors wanted it cut. Darkcoin/dash did make cuts, as I understand it. Monero may have been originally designed with a somewhat faster supply curve, I don't know the details, but in any case that is somewhat irrelevant given that the darkcoin/dash supply curve has been changed multiple times.

There are better threads for this discussion though, such as this one so feel free to join over there if you are actually interested. Other than correcting incorrect information, I never post about Monero here.

Here's what an independent review says about the Monero supply curve (click through to see an analysis of the entire blockchain showing everything is as it should be:

On one hand, a 4 year plan to produce 85% of the currency is waaaay better than 90% of the coins on this investigation. In comparison to bitcoin, we see that from its inception from January of 2009 to today, May of 2014 (roughly 5.5 years), bitcoin has produced around 60% of its expected coin totals 163). In that sense, Monero isn't too much of a divergence.

There are no instantmines or premines in Monero. The smooth block subsidy scheme could be a little bit more tapered towards a slower distribution than it is, but ultimately this coin passes the smell test.

[onetime]

   looks like "DRSH" 

-onetime

I don't see the R but I wouldn't mind if they closed the line off in the A.  It might even look better because the D is already so stylized...

The A, styled in this fashion, sports a little C in the white part of it. This is a subtle subliminal message that DASH is "Cash". Subliminal messages can be quite powerful, so that's why I've been advocating keeping it.

the subliminal "C" is NOT worth making the word illegible. this is important. people need to look at it and see DASH, not DRSH. 

-onetime

[BiteMyShinyMetalAss]

Total Masternodes: 2457 = 2457 actives + 0 inactives [2197 unique IPs] (Last refresh: Sun Mar 29 2015 1:02:49 PM)
Estimated daily payout for an active node (blocks with MN payments last 24h: 99.62%): 0.2 DASH/day (Last Refreshed: Sun Mar 29 2015 1:02:44 PM)

Current Number of Masternodes: 2459 (unique IPs: 2199)
Expected Payment per Masternode: every 4.2691 days
Exchange Rate (Cryptsy et al.): 4.800668643178 USD
Average all-time MN Payment Interval: 1640.9 blocks
Average MN Payment Interval (last 20 payments): 2386.5 blocks
Average Reward for last Blocks: 4.64286 DASH
Average Reward from last Blocks for Miners: 2.78572 DASH
Average Reward from last Blocks for Masternodes: 1.85714 DASH
Estimated Payment per Masternode: 0.435019 DASH / day
Estimated Payment in USD (Cryptsy et al.): $ 2.08838 / day

[stonehedge]

Likewise, I met Tante today irl and we traded a MN, wonderful person and perfect trade, we chatted for hours. Looking forward to meeting up again when I'm next in Calif!

We also shared a bottle of Veuve Clicquot as amazingly BTer yesterday returned the coins that I'd bought there for a CNY/DRK wall after two weeks of it looking ever more so that they weren't going to, so celebrations and parties all round

Incidentally, the wall that I put up in CNY when they got hacked for Bitcoin, I later sold to DRK a couple of weeks ago when they re-initiated trading of it, I paid over the market price as I just wanted to get my funds out of there - that seemed sort of suspect to them so it's been a long struggle until they unexpectedly finally released my money, which was after an email from tungfa's Chinese friend and I'm very grateful to them both for the help that they offered me and to their commitment to involve the Chinese crypto social networks community in this as well if it had proved necessary.

Anyway the DASH are now worth 150 BTC, up 50% from when I sent them on the 13th Feb, so it's all good and ended well

Great news Otoh, really glad for you.

EDIT:  Off topic rant warning.  I treated four friends to tickets for the Brazil vs Chile game today and they're not going "because it is raining" and the tickets are not transferrable.  How lame is that?!

[Macrochip]

You're obviously pretty uninformed about Monero, which is not meant as an insult by any means. After all it is just one of many coins and perhaps one that doesn't interest you, fair enough.

You know, when you're not exactly bashing a competing currency, you're quite bearable. Will look into it.

[hashmoon]

   looks like "DRSH" 

-onetime

I don't see the R but I wouldn't mind if they closed the line off in the A.  It might even look better because the D is already so stylized...

The A, styled in this fashion, sports a little C in the white part of it. This is a subtle subliminal message that DASH is "Cash". Subliminal messages can be quite powerful, so that's why I've been advocating keeping it.

the subliminal "C" is NOT worth making the word illegible. this is important. people need to look at it and see DASH, not DRSH. 

-onetime

+1 

[Macrochip]

I've had so much trouble seeing an "R" that I had to help myself. This is what the actual letter could look like:


I think it's a big difference and people seeing it for the first time definitely do NOT think "DRSH" with the original version.
I like the logo as it is, with the hidden "c".

[Sub-Ether]

Likewise, I met Tante today irl and we traded a MN, wonderful person and perfect trade, we chatted for hours. Looking forward to meeting up again when I'm next in Calif!

Anyway the DASH are now worth 150 BTC, up 50% from when I sent them on the 13th Feb, so it's all good and ended well

Thank goodness, eh?  I'm so glad you got your coins!    Now you can put up more buy walls, LOL

Impressive you guys got to meet up, and am glad Otoh has finally got his coins/CNY back, but if Bter are going to question why he bought a load of coins after they themselves got hacked it certainly does not install confidence in such an exchange and not everyone has Chinese help!  I will trade there with extreme caution if at all.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

  looks like "DRSH"  

-onetime

I don't see the R but I wouldn't mind if they closed the line off in the A.  It might even look better because the D is already so stylized...

The A, styled in this fashion, sports a little C in the white part of it. This is a subtle subliminal message that DASH is "Cash". Subliminal messages can be quite powerful, so that's why I've been advocating keeping it.

the subliminal "C" is NOT worth making the word illegible. this is important. people need to look at it and see DASH, not DRSH.  

-onetime

The logo "as is" is the one that got voted for, this would not have happened if everyone's first impression was that it looked like an R. Most people see an A, this hasn't been a problem.

I'm had so much trouble seeing an "R" that I had to help myself. This is what the actual letter could look like:


I think it's a big difference and people seeing it for the first time definitely do NOT think "DRSH" with the original version.
I like the logo as it is, with the hidden "c".

+1 Hidden subliminal "C" FTW!!!

[JGCMiner]

  looks like "DRSH"  

-onetime

I don't see the R but I wouldn't mind if they closed the line off in the A.  It might even look better because the D is already so stylized...

The A, styled in this fashion, sports a little C in the white part of it. This is a subtle subliminal message that DASH is "Cash". Subliminal messages can be quite powerful, so that's why I've been advocating keeping it.

the subliminal "C" is NOT worth making the word illegible. this is important. people need to look at it and see DASH, not DRSH.  

-onetime

The logo "as is" is the one that got voted for, this would not have happened if everyone's first impression was that it looked like an R. Most people see an A, this hasn't been a problem.

I'm had so much trouble seeing an "R" that I had to help myself. This is what the actual letter could look like:


I think it's a big difference and people seeing it for the first time definitely do NOT think "DRSH" with the original version.
I like the logo as it is, with the hidden "c".

+1 Hidden subliminal "C" FTW!!!

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I agree. What is the point of having a vote if Evan goes and changes the logo because a few people are complaining?  

It really seems like you can't win with some people.  If Evan makes a decision without resorting to some democratic process (a la a vote) then people get mad, but when we do have a vote people get mad at the results.  Logo #1 won the vote.  Simple as that.  Plus it really doesn't look like an "R" unless you slide the dash as Macrochip shows above.

[coins101]

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+1 Hidden subliminal "C" FTW!!!

The fact we are talking about it in such terms means it is working.

People irl will do the same. That's the genius of this. Making it a talking point in a coffee shop, over dinner, on the bus, etc, means people are talking about the output of the technology (cash but over the internet) without needing to talk about the detail of the technology (mining, master nodes, etc).

It also means DASH owns the digital cash space in the minds of ordinary people.

Genius.

[Honest Tim]

Now we just have to find a way to put "SEX" in there.

[GhostPlayer]

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+1 Hidden subliminal "C" FTW!!!

The fact we are talking about it in such terms means it is working.

People irl will do the same. That's the genius of this. Making it a talking point in a coffee shop, over dinner, on the bus, etc, means people are talking about the output of the technology (cash but over the internet) without needing to talk about the detail of the technology (mining, master nodes, etc).

It also means DASH owns the digital cash space in the minds of ordinary people.

Genius.

 Bingo. At first I absolutely hated the name. But when this argument surfaced into head, I fell head over heels with Dash.
 I had Darkcoin way too deep in my heart.

 Dash is absolutely brilliant.

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[coins101]

Now we just have to find a way to put "SEX" in there.

[GhostPlayer]

Now we just have to find a way to put "SEX" in there.

 Dash. Digital Asset for Sexy Humans