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April 18, 2015, 05:33:35 AM |
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That was pretty sneaky, Vertoe! Don't tease us like this! Don't let that be the last post we see from you. We could use you back, man. Dash is a Digital Cash that can be used for anything, and you can have a hand in making it happen. Also, there is a fund for developers now. Keep that in mind. Take your time, though, if you need to. I was posting it because it is a very interesting pull request from a technological perspective. I'm surprised to see udjin did a dirty merge of the bitcoin master (which is not 0.10.0 but 0.10.99 btw) and it seems to work out. I've been waiting to see the 0.12 wallet. Will test it. But I have to disappoint you, I will not return or contribute to darkcoin as long as it is nothing more than a company selling a product. And I dont want to offend anyone when I say I simply have to smile when I see that darkcoin wants to take on bitcoin. Bitcoin is a consensus protocol specification, a team of developers maintaining a reference implementation, miners sustaining the consensus throughout the network and a democratic foundation which does nothing than public relations. Darkcoin has none of this and should take the time to learn why it's important to support decentralization over corporate-like behaviour, why it's important to achieve a network consensus by miners not developers and why it's important to have democratic fallback infrastructure in place in case there are disputes without consensus. darkcoin is competion for paypal, not bitcoin. corporations can fail. cryptocurrencies cant. mistrust authority, promote decentralization. I Concur Vertoe! You are wise beyond your years...wishing you success on future endeavors from the big apple! I will drink a beer for you this weekend! cheers!  Disclaimer:I'm screen shotin dis for my book before BCT mods delete it! Rotflmao....  I certainly do not concur. Absolutely nothing about Dash is centralised and corporate as vertoe suggests. It's his opinion, amongst many. He is entitled to it, but that does not make it the truth. Evan wanted to merge with Shadowcash, to get even more talent into the team. Community voted no, he was bummed but respected it. Every solution Evan solved, is always in decentralised grounds, except for some necessary development steps (closed-source Darksend, spork, reference node, etc) Anyone can fork Dash. They only need to convince user and miners. Heck, not even fork the project, just not update to the latest version. The longest chain wins. vertoe alerted Evan on numerous occasions on XYZ problems on testnet, and warned not to roll-out to mainnet. Many times, the newest version did roll out. Many times we forked and had to spork back. But the vast majority of times the cause of the forks had nothing to do with vertoe's warnings. And more often than not, the mainnet fork led to even greater ideas. For months vertoe was growing unsatisfied with his lack of voice. He felt unheard and started growing disgruntled. vertoe clearly wanted to continue the subversive route, Evan always wanted a clean and open platform. vertoe felt stabbed in the back when the Foundation was announced. His final straw was the rebrand. Dash being a crypto-paypal is pure demagogy. What is true is that Evan is leading the project. What is true is all the devs are following his main master branch and submitting to it. What is true is there is a vision of a concrete objective. This is Evan's baby, no questions about it - that is certainly not synonym of centralisation. True decentralisation is opening a github with only 1 - print "Hello World" and then asking the community to do something. I'd like to see how fast and how many forks would occur. Furthermore, vertoe left in a highly unethical and childish manner. His contributions were fabulous, but he has absolutely no moral grounds to come here and post anything about Dash, except in his own defence for anything said about him. He is perfectly entitled to have his opinion, but not to state it as actual fact. Geez I am behind and I've missed out on a lot these last few months... Vertoe sounds like typical Gen-Y, does 3 months of work and wants to take over... |
The new generation have arrived and they brought their own currency...
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April 18, 2015, 08:19:08 AM |
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Price inflection point? Looks that way to me...
PS agree with the above... Vertoe - good luck in your future.... I think you have made a huge mistake dropping out - your loss.
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DASH #DashDC #DashIntoDigitalCash
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GhostPlayer
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April 18, 2015, 08:22:59 AM |
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He didn't try to take over at all... Just drastically different philosophies on where the coins was headed.
vertoe has always been about financial freedom, anonymity, privacy, TOR, unregulated markets, anti-establishment, anti-gov, subverting, hacking communities, etc... He has the old school hacker's ethics, the good ones - not accusing him of anything!
eduffield has always been about financial freedom, anonymity, privacy, making a proper functioning digital cash system for the internet era that is absolutely not specific to the sub-culture. It's intention is to be so damn good, it works for absolutely everyone and anything. Like cash. Clear-net, deep-web, peer-to-peer or centralised Forex. To each his own, the people choose what to do with it. If it don't work like proper cash, it don't work at all.
The name Darkcoin brought them together, the perception of the meaning of Darkcoin steered them apart.
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April 18, 2015, 09:08:15 AM |
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Sapereaude
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April 18, 2015, 09:25:28 AM
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Considering what damage normal corporations do, I find it hard to imagine them being anything but a bad idea. Edit: In the sense that they are already essential amoral algorithmic profit/rent seeking entities so making them more efficient aka DAC's will just worsen the problem. I mean just look at the whole nuclear sized clusterfucks that HFT(High Frequency Trading) causes. Unless perhaps they abided by some other parameters, but those DAC's they would make less money then less people would invest in them and they would have a smaller impact anyway. |
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April 18, 2015, 10:20:08 AM |
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Weekend geopolitical hope and change roundup, https://youtu.be/vHlO9zATm2k |
Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1) = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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It's all mathematics...!
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April 18, 2015, 11:00:36 AM |
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BTC 4-Hour chart now tipping to downside.
Where this lands may be the fork in the road for Bitcoin. If it breaks down past 200-210 then we may be on course to setting a new low.
On the other hand if it completes the 4-hour correction without doin that then it's yet another successful retest and will start to look like it might be bucking the trend of the last year finally.
Yes Sir! I've been swing trading BTC for a long time....and something is brewing! And not just the home brew I'm drinkin right now wit my crew! Cheers! Just my person opinion on the BTC chart on zeroblock...when the vwap line descends into the connection it will be fun 2 watch imho! Don't know the direction yet?...everyone has limits! we have time...patience is virtue ! |
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April 18, 2015, 11:39:54 AM |
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Room77 is really nice place! Went there once, when I was visiting Bierlin! Wish every capital to have pub like this that would accept crytpo currencies! |
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April 18, 2015, 12:08:25 PM |
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I have a DarkCoin - Wallet v0.10.16.16-beta and I want to move my coins to the DashCoin Walllet. The issue is the first wallet is not synching. How can I do the migration?
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April 18, 2015, 12:34:08 PM |
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Thanks a lot man. So, simple. Just renamed the `.darkoin` folder to `.dash`. Thanks a lot. |
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April 18, 2015, 12:47:55 PM |
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Room77 is really nice place! Went there once, when I was visiting Bierlin! Wish every capital to have pub like this that would accept crytpo currencies! I should be doing some business in Germany in the next month or two. Will check it out  |
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April 18, 2015, 02:24:50 PM |
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I think I rambled on way too much, my question/points were:
DASH needs development and needs to grow, because it's the best solution out there IMO and in other's opinion, and we want to see it take over the world.
To succeed, DASH needs to grow. It needs a super easy interface for the masses, one that makes it super easy to keep your funds safe. It needs mature services. loans? how does that work in a decentralized, deflationary economy? Stock market, other infrastructure. Unlike Banks, DASH and the masternode system lend themselves to many other solutions such as a decentralized exchange, a decentralized market place, a decentralized private internet. The sky is the limit, and it's natural for DASH to expand in these ways.
But who will pay for all this work? The potential is there, but funds are not. Are there decentralized ways to fund a decentralized autonomous corporation, perhaps using this new voting system for decision making? That could earn money to pay for future development? Does anyone see a way that this could work. It's not easy! If this entity, like Andreas Antonopoulos explains, can own it's own funds, and spend them when needed, this is very intriguing. How would projects get the green light? How would this entity be funded?
Do you think, as I do, that something like this must happen for DASH to survive into the distant future?
With DASH at $3.00 a worth of newly created units are valued at $241,452.00 a month. So if all of us would give up 5% of MN revenue, it would be $12,072.60 a month. (at 4% it would be $9,658.08) Would be too much to ask to give 4% of the profit other people's work is creating for you / me / us to support the project? I know many people would be strongly against a mandatory contributions, but what if a wallet one uses for MN would have a simple option, check this box and 4% goes toward... ?? And if this fails (less than 50% of us do that) we try more. I suspect, given Evan's approach of seeing MN as bonds and his background in finance, that Dash would see its future as an IPO, where Masternodes would be shares and have their own value, much higher than the compounded worth of Dash units in it... Who knows how all this would develop, but I am for sure as curious as hell  |
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April 18, 2015, 02:34:23 PM |
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Kienbui
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April 18, 2015, 03:57:38 PM |
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2397 active masternodes!
95.6% - v0.11.2.22
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April 18, 2015, 04:01:19 PM |
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What's impressive is the growth ratio of MN count: there have been deployed already 931 in 2015 against 1464 of 2014.
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