splawik21
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May 08, 2015, 12:12:51 PM |
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crowning?  |
BE SMART, USE DASH ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Lebubar
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May 08, 2015, 12:21:50 PM |
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As I understand - if after voting MN has gone offline for more than 1 hour - it's vote is canceled and MN operator need to vote again? It's pity we don't see whole list "IPs - actual vote results" so everybody could be sure his vote(-s) is active.  You can see that in https://dashninja.pl/ in the details Hmmmm, I vote for all my MN (yesterday) and the site show for all ABSTAIN. I think it's not working properly the vote status on this site. |
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coins101
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May 08, 2015, 12:29:02 PM |
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Great image, please everyone bump it every 24 hours or so, taking into account the forum moderation rules. |
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coins101
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May 08, 2015, 12:37:20 PM |
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As I understand - if after voting MN has gone offline for more than 1 hour - it's vote is canceled and MN operator need to vote again? It's pity we don't see whole list "IPs - actual vote results" so everybody could be sure his vote(-s) is active. That could open up voting abuse. Voting should have an element of privacy. |
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thelonecrouton
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May 08, 2015, 12:58:44 PM |
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As I understand - if after voting MN has gone offline for more than 1 hour - it's vote is canceled and MN operator need to vote again? It's pity we don't see whole list "IPs - actual vote results" so everybody could be sure his vote(-s) is active. That could open up voting abuse. Voting should have an element of privacy. If I understood something Udjin said recently, all internal identifiers are moving towards pubkeys, not IP addresses, which would be better in a whole lot of ways, not just this. Obviously votes need to be attributable somehow. |
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JGCMiner
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May 08, 2015, 01:04:39 PM |
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A central escrow/wallet for projects will cause problems with theft/loss/confiscation/tax.
Multisig in general is VERY secure and is proven in Bitcoin. Thus the temp implementation of having 7~10/15 multisig will not suffer from this problem. As for future implementations... well we have testnet. I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill on this theft/loss issue. Multisig means jack shit when the psychopaths who run the asylum decide to ruin or end you. If they want your multisig key you are going to give it to them. They're slightly less likely to ask for it torture it out of you if it doesn't exist in the first place. Or do you think bad things only happen to those nasty brown people, on TV, in the land of Far Away?  No. I simply don't have an unhealthy paranoia about gov't. The gov't doesn't care about Dash. And they certainly aren't going to torture the 15 people with the multisig keys for the brief period of time that this temporary solution is in place. That is nothing but a red herring and I hope voters will not be fooled by it. |
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eduffield (OP)
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May 08, 2015, 01:42:27 PM |
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Dash - Digital Cash | dash.org | dashfoundation.io | dashgo.io
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coins101
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May 08, 2015, 01:49:25 PM |
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Nice clarification / update |
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splawik21
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May 08, 2015, 01:52:53 PM |
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Nice clarification / update YEA  Even TLC thinks he`s dreaming in the mid day  |
BE SMART, USE DASH ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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thelonecrouton
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May 08, 2015, 02:01:49 PM |
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Nice clarification / update YEA Even TLC thinks he`s dreaming in the mid day  |
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BrainShutdown
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May 08, 2015, 03:07:04 PM |
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Nice clarification / update YEA Even TLC thinks he`s dreaming in the mid day Amazing  As if there were any doubts about the commitment of the dev team in finding a true decentralized solution without any pork barrel Go Dash!! |
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Lebubar
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May 08, 2015, 03:49:21 PM |
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Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724
MN owners don't forget to vote!
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BrainShutdown
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May 08, 2015, 04:25:22 PM |
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Great image, please everyone bump it every 24 hours or so, taking into account the forum moderation rules. What do forum moderation rules say about bumping important information to the context of some thread?  |
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Solarminer
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May 08, 2015, 04:39:43 PM |
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A central escrow/wallet for projects will cause problems with theft/loss/confiscation/tax.
Multisig in general is VERY secure and is proven in Bitcoin. Thus the temp implementation of having 7~10/15 multisig will not suffer from this problem. As for future implementations... well we have testnet. I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill on this theft/loss issue. Multisig means jack shit when the psychopaths who run the asylum decide to ruin or end you. If they want your multisig key you are going to give it to them. They're slightly less likely to ask for it torture it out of you if it doesn't exist in the first place. Or do you think bad things only happen to those nasty brown people, on TV, in the land of Far Away? No. I simply don't have an unhealthy paranoia about gov't. The gov't doesn't care about Dash. And they certainly aren't going to torture the 15 people with the multisig keys for the brief period of time that this temporary solution is in place. That is nothing but a red herring and I hope voters will not be fooled by it. No need to worry, the revised proposal looks like it addresses the big concerns. |
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GhostPlayer
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May 08, 2015, 04:43:08 PM |
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Great image, please everyone bump it every 24 hours or so, taking into account the forum moderation rules. What do forum moderation rules say about bumping important information to the context of some thread? I'm quoting you to answer that the forum rules just says "24h", and makes no mention of - Relevance to the topic of the thread - If importance is relevant enough to temporarily override the rule - If partial quoting is considered eligible - If multi-level quoting is encompassed - If mention of the quote is considered subversion of the rule - If moderation is enacted outside the time frame, is that specific quote exempt from initial condition - If mirroring of the quote is considered eligible - If an 180º upside-down screenshot flip of the quote is considered eligible - If these doubts are considered comments to moderation, thus breaking yet another rule (they're not, just to be clear, just doubts) - Is rewording of the original quote considered subversion of the rule - In case of users continually breaking the rules, would the community quoting the rules within the 24h timeframe also be considered breaking the rules. |
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Sub-Ether
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
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May 08, 2015, 05:56:47 PM |
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Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724
MN owners don't forget to vote!
Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible |
Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1) = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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Lebubar
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May 08, 2015, 06:11:24 PM |
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Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724
MN owners don't forget to vote!
Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible You have 1 week and 5 days more to think and re-think about it;) |
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eduffield (OP)
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May 08, 2015, 06:15:08 PM |
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Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724
MN owners don't forget to vote!
Not forgotten, am just stretching the moment as long as possible You have 1 week and 5 days more the think and re-think about it;) We only need 51% of the network to vote yes for this too pass ./dashd masternode list votes YEA | wc -l 931 |
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May 08, 2015, 06:18:03 PM |
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hm,where are the video we've foundraise like 3 month ago ? We've talk about 40day 2 month maximum to see it.
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Solarminer
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May 08, 2015, 06:18:26 PM |
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Status of the vote so far (15h48 UTC):
YEA 799
NAY 16
ABSTAIN 1724
MN owners don't forget to vote!
FYI, the NAYs have fallen a little. Some of us must have liked the revised proposal.  YEA 924 NAY 3 ABSTAIN 1615 |
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