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[Minotaur26]

Where is the rule
"ABSTAIN do not have a vote"
Why we need to count on them?

I think, to be nimble, in the future, votes will work on a quorum or something.  But for this first vote, we want it to be a popular vote (meaning, a majority of all the Masternode owners need to feel good about this idea).  Frankly, I'm shocked that it's taking so long to get half the MNds to vote. Where is everyone?  Is it too hard to do?  Perhaps there are that many people on the fence, but I can't imagine there are so many out there without an opinion!

It seems some 1,395 MN did not vote. Otoh himself has about 50% of these MNs so if he did not vote yet, herein you have a half of your answer, And there are other big holders, one with more MNs than Otoh...

I dont know where you get your information but that is not correct. Otoh is the #1 holder there are no other holders with more nodes, plus he invested a large amount and bought all coins on the market.

[bigrcanada]

Where is the rule
"ABSTAIN do not have a vote"
Why we need to count on them?

I think, to be nimble, in the future, votes will work on a quorum or something.  But for this first vote, we want it to be a popular vote (meaning, a majority of all the Masternode owners need to feel good about this idea).  Frankly, I'm shocked that it's taking so long to get half the MNds to vote. Where is everyone?  Is it too hard to do?  Perhaps there are that many people on the fence, but I can't imagine there are so many out there without an opinion!

It seems some 1,395 MN did not vote. Otoh himself has about 50% of these MNs so if he did not vote yet, herein you have a half of your answer, And there are other big holders, one with more MNs than Otoh...

I dont know where you get your information but that is not correct. Otoh is the #1 holder there are no other holders with more nodes, plus he invested a large amount and bought all coins on the market.

good grief...I feel like a small fry with my MN's ,   but I did my part and voted!  

[coins101]

.... Otoh......bought all coins on the market.

He didn't buy the ones I bought 

[bitalkpl]

I vote 2 times from my v0.11.2.23 dash-qt on windows
masternode was v0.11.2.22
my vote disappeared

I've just updated the MN to 23
Now should be fine I think

btw.
could someone make new localization for update masternode e.g
.../current-linux-64/dashd
or maybe some official script for crone update

[zeerobje]

Update about Pay all your bills easy and fast with BitBill.eu..They had some problems with the change  of the name...The working on a solution for Dash! So you can pay soon your Bills with Dash.....

Gr Zeero

[Minotaur26]

Update about Pay all your bills easy and fast with BitBill.eu..They had some problems with the change  of the name...The working on a solution for Dash! So you can pay soon your Bills with Dash.....

Gr Zeero

This is great news thank you. It was relatively easy to go through the re-branding process as the only thing changing was the name. I wonder what issues they had, anyway, looking forward to the service for Dash being back online.

[oaxaca]

Update about Pay all your bills easy and fast with BitBill.eu..They had some problems with the change  of the name...The working on a solution for Dash! So you can pay soon your Bills with Dash.....

Gr Zeero

There's a school of thought that says all adoption is good.  I might disagree.  If BitBill.eu simply dumps the DASH on receipt in order to avoid the risk of carrying it, where is the net good?  Is the increased publicity worth the automatic market dump?  Possibly.  Possibly not.

[Pansyfaust]

For all the miners in the house, SuprNova's Dashpool has 0% mining fee

https://dash.suprnova.cc

[toknormal]

There's a school of thought that says all adoption is good.  I might disagree.  If BitBill.eu simply dumps the DASH on receipt in order to avoid the risk of carrying it, where is the net good?  Is the increased publicity worth the automatic market dump?  Possibly.  Possibly not.

I'd take increased adoption over increased marketcap any day.

[zeerobje]

Update about Pay all your bills easy and fast with BitBill.eu..They had some problems with the change  of the name...The working on a solution for Dash! So you can pay soon your Bills with Dash.....

Gr Zeero

There's a school of thought that says all adoption is good.  I might disagree.  If BitBill.eu simply dumps the DASH on receipt in order to avoid the risk of carrying it, where is the net good?  Is the increased publicity worth the automatic market dump?  Possibly.  Possibly not.

I agree with you but it is also a backup for some one who want to invest in crypto when he knows when i need to pay a bill i can do that...On this scale it give's people more trust to invest in Dash...Here in the Dutch Is Crypto so small when some one ask me what are you doing, then i can explain about Dash more importent you give this person some trust in Crypto you can pay Bills with it!

Gr Zeero

[GhostPlayer]

I vote 2 times from my v0.11.2.23 dash-qt on windows
masternode was v0.11.2.22
my vote disappeared

I've just updated the MN to 23
Now should be fine I think

btw.
could someone make new localization for update masternode e.g
.../current-linux-64/dashd
or maybe some official script for crone update

 You didn't vote three times... Well, you did, because you can change your vote to "nay" and back to "yea", or in your case "nay nay nay" or  "yea yea yea" ... which is actually funny, because one of my favourite bands is called "Yeah Yeah Yeahs"  

 ... but not three independent votes... your disappearing vote is a gui bug. The vote is in fact recorded, the masternode just "forgets" what it voted, but the network knows. This has been addressed is v.23

 About the script, that will always have to be personalized. You can just copy someone else's script, but there can be no generic official one. Some people just wget in the home folder, others into ./dash, other prefer to usr/bin... others aren't even on debian to start with.

[oaxaca]

There's a school of thought that says all adoption is good.  I might disagree.  If BitBill.eu simply dumps the DASH on receipt in order to avoid the risk of carrying it, where is the net good?  Is the increased publicity worth the automatic market dump?  Possibly.  Possibly not.

I'd take increased adoption over increased marketcap any day.

I understand how this is a chicken/egg problem.  If BitBill.eu helps circulate the DASH by "spending" it on their own salaries or office supplies or datacenter costs, this is a big win.  If they simply take it out of circulation and churn it through exchanges, not so much.  But in order to get the employees or office supply stores or datacenters to demand DASH more publicity is needed.  Around and around...

[GhostPlayer]

 In the meantime...

 Is it safe to say that the 5k no-troll-quote campaign has been as resounding success ?? 

 Lets keep it up folk...

[Minotaur26]

There's a school of thought that says all adoption is good.  I might disagree.  If BitBill.eu simply dumps the DASH on receipt in order to avoid the risk of carrying it, where is the net good?  Is the increased publicity worth the automatic market dump?  Possibly.  Possibly not.

I'd take increased adoption over increased marketcap any day.

I understand how this is a chicken/egg problem.  If BitBill.eu helps circulate the DASH by "spending" it on their own salaries or office supplies or datacenter costs, this is a big win.  If they simply take it out of circulation and churn it through exchanges, not so much.  But in order to get the employees or office supply stores or datacenters to demand DASH more publicity is needed.  Around and around...

I think in crypto in general some sort of program, partnership or incentive is needed for merchants and businesses that are willing to hold crypto. I think something where merchants setup their own nodes and they participate on the network and get payments.  I wonder if merchants like Directbet.eu would be willing to run their own masternodes if we approach them about it, just as an example.

[noobtrader]

There's a school of thought that says all adoption is good.  I might disagree.  If BitBill.eu simply dumps the DASH on receipt in order to avoid the risk of carrying it, where is the net good?  Is the increased publicity worth the automatic market dump?  Possibly.  Possibly not.

I'd take increased adoption over increased marketcap any day.

I understand how this is a chicken/egg problem.  If BitBill.eu helps circulate the DASH by "spending" it on their own salaries or office supplies or datacenter costs, this is a big win.  If they simply take it out of circulation and churn it through exchanges, not so much.  But in order to get the employees or office supply stores or datacenters to demand DASH more publicity is needed.  Around and around...

imho
i think we might need to create masternode fund to stabilize price at certain price range. this to create price stability. however  i dont know if this even possible ?

[wozzek23]

Where is the rule
"ABSTAIN do not have a vote"
Why we need to count on them?

I think, to be nimble, in the future, votes will work on a quorum or something.  But for this first vote, we want it to be a popular vote (meaning, a majority of all the Masternode owners need to feel good about this idea).  Frankly, I'm shocked that it's taking so long to get half the MNds to vote. Where is everyone?  Is it too hard to do?  Perhaps there are that many people on the fence, but I can't imagine there are so many out there without an opinion!

It seems some 1,395 MN did not vote. Otoh himself has about 50% of these MNs so if he did not vote yet, herein you have a half of your answer, And there are other big holders, one with more MNs than Otoh...

I dont know where you get your information but that is not correct. Otoh is the #1 holder there are no other holders with more nodes, plus he invested a large amount and bought all coins on the market.

good grief...I feel like a small fry with my MN's ,   but I did my part and voted!  

From his own statement - in a discussion about "someone else" having more - but that does not matter, who has 1 or 500++ MN. All I said was a speculation. If he had not voted...

[Sub-Ether]

Can anyone explain why my synced masternode local client (0.11.2.23) shows 2592 abstains, 100% absolutely of them?!

[Mrpumperitis]

As btc regulation draws closer, does anyone have any idea how this could affect dash? as its one of the few cryptos that is trying to go mainstream with brick and mortar merchants competing directly with Bitcoin. We saw what happened to xrp recently and the changes they made to try and achieve widespread mainstream adoption.

[qwizzie]

I would urge everyone that owns a masternode to take the time and actually put a vote out
which will directly influence the % for NEA and YEA votes.

Its time to bring the number of masternode owners  not having voted yet down people !!

Read more about the voting proposal here :

Original voting proposal :

https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/

Update on original proposal :

https://dashtalk.org/threads/vote-self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4825/page-4#post-53665

How To Vote :

To vote, simply copy your masternode.conf into your dash directory, open the software then execute the command “masternode vote-many yea” or “masternode vote-many nay”.

To vote with a single masternode you can use the command “masternode vote yea” or “masternode vote nay”.

How to view the voting results so far :

https://dashtalk.org/threads/halle-berrys-masternode-info-tools.3036/ (check the exspected payment per masternode / day)

How to view the results of your own voting :

https://dashninja.pl/mndetails.html?mnpubkey=YROWNMASTERNODEPUBKEY

[ddink7]

Update about Pay all your bills easy and fast with BitBill.eu..They had some problems with the change  of the name...The working on a solution for Dash! So you can pay soon your Bills with Dash.....

Gr Zeero

There's a school of thought that says all adoption is good.  I might disagree.  If BitBill.eu simply dumps the DASH on receipt in order to avoid the risk of carrying it, where is the net good?  Is the increased publicity worth the automatic market dump?  Possibly.  Possibly not.

I disagree. In order to make crypto a success, we are eventually going to need to "close the loop." Customers use Dash to pay retailers, retailers pay suppliers, suppliers pay manufacturers, and everybody along the way pays employees in Dash (or with an option to collect payment in Dash).

Yes, you are correct in that ultimately the loop must be closed. But first we have to fill in pieces here and there. I'm content with merchant adoption (with merchants "dumping" straight to fiat) as a first step. Maybe the next step will be vendors paying suppliers in Dash. Go from there...one step at a time.