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Hi, As promised, I'm currently working on an infographic and other promo materials. This is the first draft. Constructive criticisms please. I used the reference given here for DarkSend. https://i.imgur.com/FTL8o5V.pngKeep me motivated - Xt2BE83Nwts16Gm3VX8UPfMMbj5haWk514 I only have 0.83 DRK! Nice graphic. Some coins sent.
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watuba
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March 12, 2014, 10:41:30 AM |
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To be honest, I'm a little ticked that this started out as "Bounty pool for marketing and branding" and now it's just "Darkcoin bounties" including bug reports etc. I'm fine with that for now, if that's what the funds are most needed for at this point.
But at some point, we need a REAL marketing pool, and it shouldn't be just spent on these incremental increases in value. It should be spent on something AWESOME. Marketing is an art, you don't just pay out a couple hundred bucks to make a slightly better website or translate to an additional language. At least, that's not ultimately the best use of funds when you're ready for mass adoption. Right now, this thread has ~171,000 page views. That's great for now. A liberal estimate means maybe 200,000 people have heard of Darkcoin. All it takes is one good marketing play... one single thing that stands out, and you get over 10 million people that have now heard about your coin. Doge has no technical use whatsoever and is far less interesting than DRK, but a brilliant marketing idea like donating $30k to the jamaiican bobsled team generates over 10 million views. We need to find our own crazy marketing idea. I'm not sure what exactly that is, but something that fits DRK and will get 10 million views based just on one single marketing effort. This doesn't have to cost much, but it will take a decent chunk of any marketing pool and be worth way more than the sum of all of these incremental updates. It could be something like a billboard. You can rent out a billboard for a month that displays digital ads in a high traffic area along the freeway for under $1000/month. This probably isn't the best fit for DRK, but someone has to get creative and figure out what that is.
I'd be willing to donate 5 to 10x my previous contribution to a marketing pool with a real marketing idea like this.
+1 I am thinking something to do with Edward Snowden might be interesting. If that story had just broke and we were raising funds for him in DRK it would be perfect. The bit about the DRK fundraising would have piggy backed on all the press about him. It's less topical now though. Maybe getting the Snowden Defense Fund to accept Darkcoin would be some news? If there is ever an individual whose privacy is violated and it becomes national news, fundraising for them may work. Evan said ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5184431#msg5184431) he would be speaking at the Cryptocurrency Convention on April 9th but don't see him on the speakers list. If there's anything we can do to support him in that or getting similar speaking opportunities I think it is the best use of funds/time in liu of a brilliant marketing idea. Why try court so much controversy? It will bring negative headlines. The principle that any news, even bad news, is good for publicity? Maybe, but then you spend years trying to shake off the negative image - like bitcoin and silk road. Why not go after a more positive approach - North Korean people being able to access online payment services thanks to darkcoin - that would be practically impossible, but that sort of thing. I'll try and see if I can get Satoshi to move his bunch of BTC though DRK. That would make the news +1 If the coin provides anonymity and it is well highlighted, those who need that feature whoever they may be will be attracted. These are really good BIG MARKETING ideas that could totally align with DRK. Funding a Snowden Defense Fund would be a strong play at spreading massive awareness for darkcoin AND provide an actual avenue that the coins can be used. Ie, people buy coins just to donate. If not the Snowden fund, make a large publicized donation to something similar that Darkcoin has a real use for.
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wonko86
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March 12, 2014, 10:47:16 AM |
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To be honest, I'm a little ticked that this started out as "Bounty pool for marketing and branding" and now it's just "Darkcoin bounties" including bug reports etc. I'm fine with that for now, if that's what the funds are most needed for at this point.
But at some point, we need a REAL marketing pool, and it shouldn't be just spent on these incremental increases in value. It should be spent on something AWESOME. Marketing is an art, you don't just pay out a couple hundred bucks to make a slightly better website or translate to an additional language. At least, that's not ultimately the best use of funds when you're ready for mass adoption. Right now, this thread has ~171,000 page views. That's great for now. A liberal estimate means maybe 200,000 people have heard of Darkcoin. All it takes is one good marketing play... one single thing that stands out, and you get over 10 million people that have now heard about your coin. Doge has no technical use whatsoever and is far less interesting than DRK, but a brilliant marketing idea like donating $30k to the jamaiican bobsled team generates over 10 million views. We need to find our own crazy marketing idea. I'm not sure what exactly that is, but something that fits DRK and will get 10 million views based just on one single marketing effort. This doesn't have to cost much, but it will take a decent chunk of any marketing pool and be worth way more than the sum of all of these incremental updates. It could be something like a billboard. You can rent out a billboard for a month that displays digital ads in a high traffic area along the freeway for under $1000/month. This probably isn't the best fit for DRK, but someone has to get creative and figure out what that is.
I'd be willing to donate 5 to 10x my previous contribution to a marketing pool with a real marketing idea like this.
+1 I am thinking something to do with Edward Snowden might be interesting. If that story had just broke and we were raising funds for him in DRK it would be perfect. The bit about the DRK fundraising would have piggy backed on all the press about him. It's less topical now though. Maybe getting the Snowden Defense Fund to accept Darkcoin would be some news? If there is ever an individual whose privacy is violated and it becomes national news, fundraising for them may work. Evan said ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5184431#msg5184431) he would be speaking at the Cryptocurrency Convention on April 9th but don't see him on the speakers list. If there's anything we can do to support him in that or getting similar speaking opportunities I think it is the best use of funds/time in liu of a brilliant marketing idea. Why try court so much controversy? It will bring negative headlines. The principle that any news, even bad news, is good for publicity? Maybe, but then you spend years trying to shake off the negative image - like bitcoin and silk road. Why not go after a more positive approach - North Korean people being able to access online payment services thanks to darkcoin - that would be practically impossible, but that sort of thing. I'll try and see if I can get Satoshi to move his bunch of BTC though DRK. That would make the news +1 If the coin provides anonymity and it is well highlighted, those who need that feature whoever they may be will be attracted. These are really good BIG MARKETING ideas that could totally align with DRK. Funding a Snowden Defense Fund would be a strong play at spreading massive awareness for darkcoin AND provide an actual avenue that the coins can be used. Ie, people buy coins just to donate. If not the Snowden fund, make a large publicized donation to something similar that Darkcoin has a real use for. Maybe a Whistleblower Fund
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coins101
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March 12, 2014, 10:51:40 AM |
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If people are intent on doing an Edward Snowden fund, it should be to pay his lawyers directly. Don't send money to Snowden directly, you become part of the hunted.
They may not be able to trace you, but they can trace the darkcoin developer.
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matt608
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March 12, 2014, 10:56:14 AM |
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It must be worth asking wikileaks to accept Darkcoin donations.
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March 12, 2014, 10:58:52 AM |
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I'm rather new here, but what is the status on KGW for Darkcoin?
I'm reading that its vulnerable to a time-warp exploit and allows for someone to execute a 51% attack with much less than 51% of the network. The Digibyte devs successfully mitigated that exploit with a modified version of KGW and the Doge devs are implementing something similar as well. Any way that Dark can leverage those two implementations?
Is this anything that Darkcoin should be worried about?
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March 12, 2014, 11:10:39 AM |
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Someone pointed some serious hashing power to lotterymining pool today. 1,185,870Khs That is pretty insane.
Someone want to stack up with coins before takeoff.
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March 12, 2014, 11:12:24 AM |
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Thanks for all the comments. I'm taking notes. All the materials are work-in-progress, so I appreciate inputs.
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March 12, 2014, 11:14:03 AM |
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THANKS! I have my fair share of DRK and I enjoyed contributing what I can. I'd like to give the bounty to lumeire who produced a nice infographics imho (he says he has only a few drk...).
Alternatively, if there is a bounty for lumeire's infographics, then I donate it back to the fundraising. I love the enthusiasm that is starting to build around this coin. Go Darkcoin!
There's already a bounty for the infographic. You can donate to the bounty fundraiser pool if you like: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5637726#msg5637726I decided to do something extra instead of sitting back. I'm going to use my earned bounty to "BUY" users' way in I just sent a detailed email to 6 friends, with a link to the darkcoin wallet, and told them to download it, and send me their addresses. I will later PM you with their addresses so you can divide equally and send them the bounty. Once they are in Darkcoin, I believe they will also show/talk about it with friends, and thus the circle around Darkcoin widens.
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wonko86
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March 12, 2014, 11:16:16 AM |
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THANKS! I have my fair share of DRK and I enjoyed contributing what I can. I'd like to give the bounty to lumeire who produced a nice infographics imho (he says he has only a few drk...).
Alternatively, if there is a bounty for lumeire's infographics, then I donate it back to the fundraising. I love the enthusiasm that is starting to build around this coin. Go Darkcoin!
There's already a bounty for the infographic. You can donate to the bounty fundraiser pool if you like: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5637726#msg5637726I decided to do something extra instead of sitting back. I'm going to use my earned bounty to "BUY" users' way in I just sent a detailed email to 6 friends, with a link to the darkcoin wallet, and told them to download it, and send me their addresses. I will later PM you with their addresses so you can divide equally and send them the bounty. Once they are in Darkcoin, I believe they will also show/talk about it with friends, and thus the circle around Darkcoin widens. +1 Nice
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LimLims
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March 12, 2014, 11:20:37 AM Last edit: March 19, 2014, 10:06:32 AM by LimLims |
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[edit]: latest bounties in sig.
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chompyZ
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March 12, 2014, 11:34:38 AM |
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Small suggestion - When I now sent a link to friends so that they download the Darkcoin wallet, I noticed that it lacks any "reassuring" mechanism for newcomers (votes, no. of downloads, what people say, etc.).
I think that we should have a 'counter' near it or under the download darkcoin-qt link/button... as "xxxxx people have downloaded Darkcoin wallet"... If a newcomer sees that that many people have downloaded it before, then it has to be OK...
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mannie
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March 12, 2014, 12:05:56 PM |
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I'm going to drop the security exploit bounties and shift them to a hack-a-thon event later when the source is released.
Also will add a bounty for the first altcoin ATM accepting darkcoin, and a bounty for a comprehensive media mailing list. Not sure if I can bounty the PR statements because they'll be ongoing. Someone might just have to be nice and donate their time for those.
Thx for adding the media list bounty I see someone put there hand up to do that. Awesome. I don't mind donating time to write media releases.
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March 12, 2014, 12:43:42 PM |
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Q. Why not make Darksend the default option in the wallet, with a tick box for an option to 'make my transactions public' to not use DarkSend?
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LimLims
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March 12, 2014, 12:47:37 PM |
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Q. Why not make Darksend the default option in the wallet, with a tick box for an option to 'make my transactions public' to not use DarkSend?
I think it's good that darksend is mentioned wherever possible for brand awareness. If we go the other route, we either miss out on the "use darksend" name drop, or label it somewhat inelegantly as "don't use darksend".
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tabnk
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March 12, 2014, 12:53:40 PM |
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Rewards @ 20.00 NET HASH @ 10.1 GH/sDIFF @ 345. Price Value
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March 12, 2014, 01:02:56 PM |
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Rewards @ 20.00 NET HASH @ 10.1 GH/sDIFF @ 345. Price Value Wouldn't worry too much - people are working on the marketing side, the coin's tech is being perfected and once it goes - it's going to really go and it won't likely be anywhere near what it is now ever again.
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tifozi
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March 12, 2014, 01:21:39 PM |
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Someone pointed some serious hashing power to lotterymining pool today. 1,185,870Khs That is pretty insane.
Someone want to stack up with coins before takeoff.
These type of farms seem to come and go on the network for the past few days. Some have made enough for what they consider a good investment and leave for the daily profitable coins. Also this is a 400-500 MH/s regular scrypt farm, so they will go back to doge now that it is rising again
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March 12, 2014, 01:48:21 PM |
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Someone pointed some serious hashing power to lotterymining pool today. 1,185,870Khs That is pretty insane.
Someone want to stack up with coins before takeoff.
im looking through the stats, something is fishy with that.. notice no blocks found.. we shpuld find loads of blocks...
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mahowi
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March 12, 2014, 01:55:12 PM |
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Someone pointed some serious hashing power to lotterymining pool today. 1,185,870Khs That is pretty insane.
Someone want to stack up with coins before takeoff.
im looking through the stats, something is fishy with that.. notice no blocks found.. we shpuld find loads of blocks... Your sig still points to http://drk.lotterymining.com/ instead of http://lotterymining.com/.
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