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December 02, 2014, 06:26:10 PM Last edit: December 02, 2014, 06:43:13 PM by Minotaur26 |
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p2pool is already easier to use than centralised pools are. No registration or setting up workers, just point your miner at the nearest p2pool node with your Darkcoin address as your username and password anything. Added bonus that the pool op can't run off with or lose your money, plus lower fees. Anyway, solo-mining is a better option IMO, avoids the p2pool dust problem, and the Spreadcoin solution seems to work perfectly so far, and Spreadcoin is based on Darkcoin, just uses a slightly modified X11 algo to get rid of the centralising parasites. My pool needs no registration, DRK wallet for your worker name and anything for password and 5+ months of consistent payments speak for itself. Not to mention you can use SHA & Scrypt asic's to earn DRK. I can understand your passion for P2P but it isn't the be all end all. Cheers Your pool is kind of a special case. I am concerned about blockchain security, not miner income, because that's what users and investors will be concened about too. Nobody is going to put serious money into a currency that depends for security on 2 or 3 poolservers. Not ever. If DRK and other PoW coins don't address this they will remain nothing but toys. @lonecrouton I think your campaign has accomplished its goal of creating awareness about your view on big pools vs p2pool. I also think is unreasonable to expect big pools to disappear or to enforce something into the coin that will exclude them, in my opinion, free market should be king. I don't think anybody disagrees that having a larger percentage of hash power coming through p2pool is a worthy cause. Not everybody agrees on the apocalyptic view on big pools though, so looking to enforce something at the protocol level is not a good strategy for your cause in my opinion. People currently have the choice to use a big pool or p2pool if they want to, people choose to mine with big pools for a couple of reasons: 1. It is what they are used to do and know how to do it and they don't want to go through the hassle of learning how to do it through P2Pool. 2. Big pools have operators that have an interest in promoting their pool and making it attractive for people to mine with them. If you are really serious about this, I think your next action should be to resolve the above issues. Create the Darkcoin Friendly P2Pool guide, or create some sort of website/tool that makes it really easy for people to start mining with P2Pool, with a list of all available nodes and we can all follow that site like we do with drk.mn. Create drkp2pool.mn or something like that, and the site's first goal could be to get to 10% of the hashrate of the network, or something like that. I am sure a lot of people would support that, and people that create new p2pool nodes could easily register them to be promoted on the site. You could have a list of p2pool nodes that people can filter by location and a tool to test latency. I think something in the line of what I describe above could be successful and maybe one day we could see it at the top 3 with other big pools. That could be a great contribution to Darkcoin and a better strategy for your cause. Edit: I am thinking the site could include a tool that would ping the network and give the user their closest p2pool and the exact string they would have to paste on their miner to mine there or something. I don't know if this is possible, but I think it will really help to promote your cause.
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December 02, 2014, 06:46:33 PM |
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#Darkcoin: Nice! In response to a "potential" threat on Reddit http://t.co/EXhCdTiQ4Z, Evan has a fix within hours: https://t.co/gutD7hy5sT#SeeTheLight #GetIntoTheDark #BuildTheDarkness #DarkLoveJoin the Darkcoin Twitter PR Initiative! Check my sig for details.
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December 02, 2014, 06:48:32 PM |
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Bump. Get out there and vote!
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December 02, 2014, 06:48:42 PM |
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I also think is unreasonable to expect big pools to disappear or to enforce something into the coin that will exclude them, in my opinion, free market should be king. I don't think anybody disagrees that having a larger percentage of hash power coming through p2pool is a worthy cause. Not everybody agrees on the apocalyptic view on big pools though, so looking to enforce something at the protocol level is not a good strategy for your cause in my opinion.
So, just because a loophole in Satoshi's system allows blockchain security to be thrown away, we should just shrug and not do anything about it at a protocol level, to fix it? Just hope for the best, eh? p2pool is already easier to use, but hardly anyone does. One more guide on how to do something that's already simpler than using most pools isn't going to have any effect.
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December 02, 2014, 06:50:43 PM |
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TESTNET !! and... Darksend technical diskussion - anonymity, liquidity, improvements - Fixed as of Onyx v2 Could stealth addresses reinforce Darksend+ against sybil attacks? - It doesn't help: http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/2lnauo/can_we_get_stealth_addresses_implemented_in_drk/clyea3jDarksend - Security Bulletin - Resolved Dead Change - an anonymity issue - Resolved Change Contracts using Atomic Transfers - Possibly going to implement this in the future (current functionality doesn't have the dead change issue and will have very fast mixing) Darksend Not Working - This is a known issue, working on this for v17.10. Reddit User Claims Darkcoin has vulnerabilities - Resolved 4 DOS-style attacks (we'll see if I found all of them)
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December 02, 2014, 06:54:20 PM |
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#Darkcoin: Nice! In response to a "potential" threat on Reddit http://t.co/EXhCdTiQ4Z, Evan has a fix within hours: https://t.co/gutD7hy5sT#SeeTheLight #GetIntoTheDark #BuildTheDarkness #DarkLoveJoin the Darkcoin Twitter PR Initiative! Check my sig for details. We don't even know if iraniandude is for real or not. For all we know it was FUD. This tweet however removes all doubt and gives the idiot publicity. Edit Oh and #darklove.... really?? You couldn't come up with a hashtag that doesn't invoke the image of sex/race? When will we get some real marketing expertise in here?
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Minotaur26
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December 02, 2014, 07:00:27 PM |
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I also think is unreasonable to expect big pools to disappear or to enforce something into the coin that will exclude them, in my opinion, free market should be king. I don't think anybody disagrees that having a larger percentage of hash power coming through p2pool is a worthy cause. Not everybody agrees on the apocalyptic view on big pools though, so looking to enforce something at the protocol level is not a good strategy for your cause in my opinion.
So, just because a loophole in Satoshi's system allows blockchain security to be thrown away, we should just shrug and not do anything about it at a protocol level, to fix it? Just hope for the best, eh? p2pool is already easier to use, but hardly anyone does. One more guide on how to do something that's already simpler than using most pools isn't going to have any effect. I am just trying to be constructive and pragmatic about the objective. If you want a change at the protocol level I don't see it happening soon given the current market climate and political resistance something like that would have. My idea was more of a tool than a guide, you go to the drkp2pool.mn site, click on a button it pings the network, gives you the p2pool closest to your location and specific instructions on how to start mining. I think something like that could have an impact. From your experience is something like this possible?
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December 02, 2014, 07:21:36 PM |
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Bump. Get out there and vote! I admire your efforts and enthusiasm but I do not think you should have Evan's name placed in the "POH is granted..." -- while I get the idea, it may be seen as misleading and, worse, presumptuous. Evan is all but presumptuous so I think even such a tiny detail matters. Just my 2 cents. Take them or shrug them off at your own will.
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December 02, 2014, 07:54:35 PM |
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December 02, 2014, 08:02:42 PM |
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Hi guys, how is bitcointalk today?
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r4vani
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December 02, 2014, 08:05:07 PM |
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what happens if btcchina add dark coin?
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Minotaur26
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December 02, 2014, 08:09:17 PM |
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Yes, much better.
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December 02, 2014, 08:15:31 PM |
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Are there instagram account for darkpics and gifs?
no there is not ! I was thinking about that too , is there interest ? should I set one up ?!? T Its a good idea, all pics are lose in hundred of pages, you could recieved tips there
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December 02, 2014, 08:16:06 PM |
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what happens if btcchina add dark coin?
The answer is obvious: "this is gentlemen"
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December 02, 2014, 08:36:44 PM |
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I also think is unreasonable to expect big pools to disappear or to enforce something into the coin that will exclude them, in my opinion, free market should be king. I don't think anybody disagrees that having a larger percentage of hash power coming through p2pool is a worthy cause. Not everybody agrees on the apocalyptic view on big pools though, so looking to enforce something at the protocol level is not a good strategy for your cause in my opinion.
So, just because a loophole in Satoshi's system allows blockchain security to be thrown away, we should just shrug and not do anything about it at a protocol level, to fix it? Just hope for the best, eh? p2pool is already easier to use, but hardly anyone does. One more guide on how to do something that's already simpler than using most pools isn't going to have any effect. I do see the benefit of the p2p protocol and ensuring the block chain security. But building into the code a bonus for p2p nodes would make me sad. 30% already goes to MN. Perhaps if there was a way standard pools could link to it using a stratum plugin or something, kinda like merged mining, that could help dissipate the amount of hashrate from one node...
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December 02, 2014, 09:08:38 PM Last edit: December 02, 2014, 09:22:51 PM by TaoOfSaatoshi |
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#Darkcoin: Nice! In response to a "potential" threat on Reddit http://t.co/EXhCdTiQ4Z, Evan has a fix within hours: https://t.co/gutD7hy5sT#SeeTheLight #GetIntoTheDark #BuildTheDarkness #DarkLoveJoin the Darkcoin Twitter PR Initiative! Check my sig for details. We don't even know if iraniandude is for real or not. For all we know it was FUD. This tweet however removes all doubt and gives the idiot publicity. Edit Oh and #darklove.... really?? You couldn't come up with a hashtag that doesn't invoke the image of sex/race? When will we get some real marketing expertise in here? I guess you missed the big in quotations "potential" wording in my tweet. As far as hashtags go, my 850+ followers seem to enjoy it, what have YOU done for Darkcoin lately? #HatersGonnaHate EDIT: While I never claimed to be "real marketing expertise", I do agree with you that this is something that will eventually be needed. I will support that effort 100%!
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December 02, 2014, 09:11:18 PM |
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Bump. Get out there and vote! I admire your efforts and enthusiasm but I do not think you should have Evan's name placed in the "POH is granted..." -- while I get the idea, it may be seen as misleading and, worse, presumptuous. Evan is all but presumptuous so I think even such a tiny detail matters. Just my 2 cents. Take them or shrug them off at your own will. Each contestant has their own badge like that, it comes with their webpage for voting, I think. Additionally, I didn't post that one, the one underneath was mine!
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r4vani
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December 02, 2014, 09:41:45 PM |
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what happens if btcchina add dark coin?
Next stop, moon! I think we should focus on the people of China For two reasons. 1-the population is high 2-The Government of China I read the news today BTC China's New Pool Mines 3,325 BTC in Five Weeks www.coindesk.com/btc-chinas-new-pool-mines-3325-btc-five-weeks
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