[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[ShawnLeary]

Any chance, and I apologize if someone just asked this and it hadn't been updated to OP, is there a basic timeline of when this will launch?  Summer, Fall, or Winter?  Thanks and keep up the great work.

[jabo38]

I almost had a heart attack!!! a few minutes ago I logged in to my next wallet using the security phrase and by my surprise I did have a different ID code and my next and nem stake was not there, it was like a new account and I said....WHERE IS MY PRECIOUS NEM STAKE??? I was panicking not knowing what to do, I said this is a nightmare! I decided to log out and log in using the same security phrase again and this time thanks to GOD the right ID code and my Precious Stake was there!!! did someone experience this?

If  you mistype password that will happen. If you are copying and pasting password from notepad I heard sometimes it adds extra space in the beginning or end.  Use password managers. They are secure and encrypt your passwords locally. The master password for password manager doesn't have to be as long as Nxt password. Just any 10 to 12 char password will be fine.  There is Keypass. I use Lastpass https://lastpass.com/

I switched over to Lastpass a few months ago after reading the NXT posts. I'm soooo happy I did. No going back now. Better security. Cross platform sync.  Much longer and better passwords.

[pkuqsq]

Any chance, and I apologize if someone just asked this and it hadn't been updated to OP, is there a basic timeline of when this will launch?  Summer, Fall, or Winter?  Thanks and keep up the great work.

estimate for beta release is august.. keep in mind its an estimate.. a rough one at that too id say.. alpha possibly mid-late june..

To buy more Tokens before alpha

[ShawnLeary]

Any chance, and I apologize if someone just asked this and it hadn't been updated to OP, is there a basic timeline of when this will launch?  Summer, Fall, or Winter?  Thanks and keep up the great work.

estimate for beta release is august.. keep in mind its an estimate.. a rough one at that too id say.. alpha possibly mid-late june..

Thanks buddy

[pkuqsq]

Buy Orders (47)
Account                                 Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-TAQ2-YY6U-LARP-HLLRA   8.3       19'900   165'170
NXT-NZW8-9HHF-PAZP-HBXKD   0.2      19'500   3'900

Trade History
2014/6/2 07:59:50   0.7   19'900   13'930   11045699501327031066   6645108124291295599
2014/6/2 07:56:56   0.3   20'000   6'000   10072716775205135443   2368273556773415934
2014/6/2 07:53:05   1   20'000   20'000   13521553896567600349   2368273556773415934
2014/6/2 07:19:12   0.1   20'000   2'000   12643024919574709777   2368273556773415934

Now the low price, there is no need  to sell, just to buy more NEM

[makoto1337]

If anybody needs any proofreading for articles or posts about NEM, please send me a message.  I am an English professor.  You would think that would mean I am excellent at proof reading, but I am far from perfect. (I actually don't teach composition)  I can still help out some though!

I can help out with Japanese or English, as well.

[makoto1337]

Buy Orders (47)
Account                                 Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-TAQ2-YY6U-LARP-HLLRA   8.3       19'900   165'170
NXT-NZW8-9HHF-PAZP-HBXKD   0.2      19'500   3'900

Trade History
2014/6/2 07:59:50   0.7   19'900   13'930   11045699501327031066   6645108124291295599
2014/6/2 07:56:56   0.3   20'000   6'000   10072716775205135443   2368273556773415934
2014/6/2 07:53:05   1   20'000   20'000   13521553896567600349   2368273556773415934
2014/6/2 07:19:12   0.1   20'000   2'000   12643024919574709777   2368273556773415934

Now the low price, there is no need  to sell, just to buy more NEM

It's a fire sale!

[TwinWinNerD]

Buy Orders (47)
Account                                 Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-TAQ2-YY6U-LARP-HLLRA   8.3       19'900   165'170
NXT-NZW8-9HHF-PAZP-HBXKD   0.2      19'500   3'900

Trade History
2014/6/2 07:59:50   0.7   19'900   13'930   11045699501327031066   6645108124291295599
2014/6/2 07:56:56   0.3   20'000   6'000   10072716775205135443   2368273556773415934
2014/6/2 07:53:05   1   20'000   20'000   13521553896567600349   2368273556773415934
2014/6/2 07:19:12   0.1   20'000   2'000   12643024919574709777   2368273556773415934

Now the low price, there is no need  to sell, just to buy more NEM

As I said before, the price will go to 15000 as NXT continues to rise.

With all the uncertainty I am surprised the "market" evaluated NEM at 10000 BTC before ANY code is released. That is remarkable. Now it is more like 5000-6000 BTC and I think it will go to about 4000 BTC market cap until the first code is released.

[pkuqsq]

About NEM wallet logon security, I suggest  just like blockchain Wallet：
1、Wallet ID code
2、Password
3、Google Authenticator
Rather than NXT Wallet, only a secret phrase,Although very long, dozens of character。
In addition, It is easy to remember

[TwinWinNerD]

About NEM wallet logon security, I suggest  just like blockchain Wallet：
1、Wallet ID code
2、Password
3、Google Authenticator
Rather than NXT Wallet, only a secret phrase,Although very long, dozens of character。
In addition, It is easy to remember

Someone already stated that it is very hard to use google authenticator for a blockchain, if not impossible.

The point being, you can block a login to a centralised service with GA, but not a static login like a privat key.

[pkuqsq]

About NEM wallet logon security, I suggest  just like blockchain Wallet：
1、Wallet ID code
2、Password
3、Google Authenticator
Rather than NXT Wallet, only a secret phrase,Although very long, dozens of character。
In addition, It is easy to remember

Someone already stated that it is very hard to use google authenticator for a blockchain, if not impossible.

The point being, you can block a login to a centralised service with GA, but not a static login like a privat key.

I've been using Google authenticator for a long time, very convenient. As a backup, I will also registered in my IPHONE and IPAD, lost any of them it doesn't matter

[TwinWinNerD]

About NEM wallet logon security, I suggest  just like blockchain Wallet：
1、Wallet ID code
2、Password
3、Google Authenticator
Rather than NXT Wallet, only a secret phrase,Although very long, dozens of character。
In addition, It is easy to remember

Someone already stated that it is very hard to use google authenticator for a blockchain, if not impossible.

The point being, you can block a login to a centralised service with GA, but not a static login like a privat key.

I've been using Google authenticator for a long time, very convenient. As a backup, I will also registered in my IPHONE and IPAD, lost any of them it doesn't matter

Yes, google authenticator is nice. But you can't use it with wallets. You can only use it with services!

[makoto1337]

has any one ever looked into what crypto records nem has broken?

like most coin announcement thread views for an un-launched coin?

most coin announcement thread views for an un-launched coin that hasnt release any software?

most coin announcement thread replies for a coin that has not launched?

most coin announcement thread replies for a coin that has not released any software?

most participants in an ipo like call for participation?

most devs working on an unlaunched coin?

highest marketcap of an unreleased coin (i think we would only need to beat maidsafe here.. could be wrong)

any other records im forgetting that could apply?

Definitely worth noting but should it be emphasized?

why not? if people here of this unknown coin thats broken all these records.. theyl be thinkin, damn.. i better check this out...

Indirectly, and changing the topic, this led me to think of an "achievement" list within the NEM client - equivalent to the achievements you see on Xbox Live and in PC / Console Gaming.

  Achievements is essentially an addicting mini-game in recreational video gaming, which encourages the user to devote more hours to the game in question to unlock these achievements (I don't know how to better explain this idea but anyone who plays Xbox Live or Steam PC Games would know what I am talking about).

  You could effectively create a wide range of NEM achievements, some of them fairly easy to achieve and others more difficult or borderline impossible.  

Interesting idea to use gamification to encourage usage of NEM. In general, I'm a big believer of it. Learning websites like Khan Academy have used it really successfully. I hadn't given it much thought in this context of crypto-currency, but it is a very interesting idea.

Of course, gamification could be taken too far, like http://www.ribbonhero.com/ .

It would be great if we could add gamification to our client. Give every user the chance to start equal and allow them to do simple things which will help secure and expand NEM while promoting them in rank. The rank could be defined as 3 - 5 stages with some cool names and could be calculated as a combination of reputation(or karma) and achievements unlocked which raise your importance to the network. Through this we could add a more social and psychological reward layer to those important to the network in addition to the economic one.

Would something like that be hard to implement? If so maybe we could keep it in mind for some later iterations.

I think maybe boosting your importance score could be like gamification. We're going to display each account's importance in the client, so that should be interesting for the user.

[makoto1337]

Will the NEM client have multilingual support? Multiple language support is important.

"Globally, consumers are spending an estimated $694 billion online this year, according to Common Sense Advisory [1]. Approximately 96 percent of global consumers live outside of the United States [2], and 70 percent of global Web users visit websites in their own language [3]. According to research firm IDC, web users are four times more likely to make a purchase from a company if the company communicates in the buyers language."
www.marketwired.com/press-release/lingotek-devzone-expands-with-new-integrations-1914588.htm

yes!!!! 100%.. this is a must! even if its just english and chinese at first! then move on to spanish and french!

Language size: http://www.ethnologue.com/statistics/size

I'd like to see language size stats for people with computers.

[makoto1337]

Will the NEM client have multilingual support? Multiple language support is important.

"Globally, consumers are spending an estimated $694 billion online this year, according to Common Sense Advisory [1]. Approximately 96 percent of global consumers live outside of the United States [2], and 70 percent of global Web users visit websites in their own language [3]. According to research firm IDC, web users are four times more likely to make a purchase from a company if the company communicates in the buyers language."
www.marketwired.com/press-release/lingotek-devzone-expands-with-new-integrations-1914588.htm

yes!!!! 100%.. this is a must! even if its just english and chinese at first! then move on to spanish and french!

Language size: http://www.ethnologue.com/statistics/size

I'd like to see language size stats for people with computers.

could you retrieve info and how many clients are using a particular language? i think that would be interesting to see.. probably not doable though is it?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/stats/map?dates=2014-05-27+to+2014-06-02

Looking at bitcoin client downloads by country should help us to prioritize languages. Recently Vietnam has been at the top. Maybe because of fears of war with their large neighbor.

[makoto1337]

As a note, for the ecosystem sites (like the blockchain explorer), we are planning to support multiple languages at the beginning, like English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.

If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.

[DynhoSts]

As a note, for the ecosystem sites (like the blockchain explorer), we are planning to support multiple languages at the beginning, like English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.

If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.

please add portuguese 

[TwinWinNerD]

As a note, for the ecosystem sites (like the blockchain explorer), we are planning to support multiple languages at the beginning, like English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.

If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.

please add portuguese 

if you can speak portaguese, why not help translate. i dont think google will be up to the task lol we all know how that normally turns out! :L

yes, before any language gets added with googletrans/babelfish rather not add it at all. Blockchain.info is HORRIBLE on multilanguage because they used something like this. A software that handles millions of USD shouldn't be made like that!

[makoto1337]

I created a trello card to keep all our language experts in one place: https://trello.com/c/xFYUmQvT

(feel free to add yourself)

[makoto1337]

As a note, for the ecosystem sites (like the blockchain explorer), we are planning to support multiple languages at the beginning, like English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.

We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.

If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.

please add portuguese 

if you can speak portaguese, why not help translate. i dont think google will be up to the task lol we all know how that normally turns out! :L

yes, before any language gets added with googletrans/babelfish rather not add it at all. Blockchain.info is HORRIBLE on multilanguage because they used something like this. A software that handles millions of USD shouldn't be made like that!

Blockchain.info's Japanese seems to be reasonable.

We don't plan to use google translate, but rather to use our 3000 stakeholders to help us translate