[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[becoin]

Will DAO refund to both chains?

Not to eth. Only to forked eth. That was the whole point of the fork.

Don't confuse people

Exchanges show eth and etc

Only one exchange decided to rename eth to etc. Other exchanges will do the right thing when they start trading both chains.

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[Mrpumperitis]

Will DAO refund to both chains?

Not to eth. Only to forked eth. That was the whole point of the fork.

Don't confuse people

Exchanges show eth and etc

Only one exchange decided to rename eth to etc. Other exchanges will do the right thing when they start trading both chains.

etc paying bagholder lol

[tylerderden]

Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Relax, we don't really need any more proof that you're just making stuff up and repeating random soundbites with no real knowledge, facts, numbers, or anything else of value.

Hahaa I know brother...I think what we have here is a goddamn parrot lol

[Mr.Pro]

eth to .1BTC

[suchmoon]

do you hold eth? why are you here? lol i hold both coins so i can say what i want about my investments  
as for my above statement about mining at a loss, that is a fact m8 

Show us the numbers.

[tylerderden]

Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Relax, we don't really need any more proof that you're just making stuff up and repeating random soundbites with no real knowledge, facts, numbers, or anything else of value.

Hahaa I know brother...I think what we have here is a goddamn parrot lol

do you hold eth? why are you here? lol i hold both coins so i can say what i want about my investments  
as for my above statement about mining at a loss, that is a fact m8 

Hey I'm here because I fukn want to be here little man. And yeah I've had a bunch of eth since the presale. People like yourself annoy me and I'm pretty sure most of the real crypto people in here. Running around spewing your nonsense trying to get people to buy or sell is goddamn pathetic. Get a life kid, or at least a soul for shits sake. Maybe even learn about the shit you run around parroting like toucan Sam or don't I really don't care, I know one thing...you think your cool. Problem is nobody else does so

[cohnhead]

Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Relax, we don't really need any more proof that you're just making stuff up and repeating random soundbites with no real knowledge, facts, numbers, or anything else of value.

Hahaa I know brother...I think what we have here is a goddamn parrot lol

do you hold eth? why are you here? lol i hold both coins so i can say what i want about my investments  
as for my above statement about mining at a loss, that is a fact m8 

is there a link to a mining calculator....eth and etc...thought I saw I screen shot of one on this thread.

also as I posted on etc thread....eth chain is growing faster than etc chain...I think that matters...yes?
4,513 blocks ahead...and hash rate is around 120ghs.....like a third of yesterday hash at peak

[Mrpumperitis]

do you hold eth? why are you here? lol i hold both coins so i can say what i want about my investments  
as for my above statement about mining at a loss, that is a fact m8 

Show us the numbers.

no...go find out yourself ,lol

[suchmoon]

Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Relax, we don't really need any more proof that you're just making stuff up and repeating random soundbites with no real knowledge, facts, numbers, or anything else of value.

Hahaa I know brother...I think what we have here is a goddamn parrot lol

do you hold eth? why are you here? lol i hold both coins so i can say what i want about my investments  
as for my above statement about mining at a loss, that is a fact m8 

is there a link to a mining calculator....eth and etc...thought I saw I screen shot of one on this thread.

also as I posted on etc thread....eth chain is growing faster than etc chain...I think that matters...yes?
4,513 blocks ahead...and hash rate is around 120ghs.....like a third of yesterday hash at peak

http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_ethereum%20classic

And no, the length of the chain doesn't matter here.

[suchmoon]

do you hold eth? why are you here? lol i hold both coins so i can say what i want about my investments  
as for my above statement about mining at a loss, that is a fact m8 

Show us the numbers.

no...go find out yourself ,lol

I already did in the post above. Clearly not a loss and roughly on par with ETH. What are your numbers?

[Fatman3001]

Will DAO refund to both chains?

Not to eth. Only to forked eth. That was the whole point of the fork.

Don't confuse people

Exchanges show eth and etc

Only one exchange decided to rename eth to etc. Other exchanges will do the right thing when they start trading both chains.

This kind of trolling could lead to people losing money. Please stop it.

[cohnhead]

Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Relax, we don't really need any more proof that you're just making stuff up and repeating random soundbites with no real knowledge, facts, numbers, or anything else of value.

Hahaa I know brother...I think what we have here is a goddamn parrot lol

do you hold eth? why are you here? lol i hold both coins so i can say what i want about my investments  
as for my above statement about mining at a loss, that is a fact m8 

is there a link to a mining calculator....eth and etc...thought I saw I screen shot of one on this thread.

also as I posted on etc thread....eth chain is growing faster than etc chain...I think that matters...yes?
4,513 blocks ahead...and hash rate is around 120ghs.....like a third of yesterday hash at peak

http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_ethereum%20classic

And no, the length of the chain doesn't matter here.

thanks for that...looks like mining is pretty much on par with eth...maybe a few percentage points more.
so it is profitable

[Gillette]

After forking eth has all features of a shit coin: premined, centralized and useless  

[Mrpumperitis]

lol all those waiting for $10- ETH, lol keep waiting, if ETH goes anywhere near $10, before/after fork, spork,no fork ...it will be scooped up and never be sold so cheap ever again.

$9.80 per eth!

Now scoop up you shit premined coin to 20 usd idiot mrpumperits  

lol how long did that last ....haha 

[bitpop]

http://www.coindesk.com/tale-two-chains-ethereum/

[loveyouforever]

http://www.coindesk.com/tale-two-chains-ethereum/

To be honest, I don't like ETH since it has been modified just to make DAO holders happy.

[Perryl]

The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.

No, the real world where sometimes you don't get it your way. The non-fork did not have enough support. Get over it. Enjoy the new alt.

The real world where sometimes you don't get your way goes the same for you as it does me.

The "non-fork" vote obviously has more support than you guys are willing to admit to.

If the vote was done in a fair and democratic way then this chain wouldn't have survived long enough to get added to Poloniex in the first place.

ETC is literally the exact same coin that had a billion dollar market cap a week ago. With developers saying they are going to support it still. If you want to dump yours, then dump. None of us care. We'll just buy it and profit later. If you're so convinced that ETC isn't going to survive then stop spamming the thread whining about us. Go do something more productive. I know I am. lol

Yes, I was surprised to see BTCDrak, Samson Mow and Barry Silbert suddenly take an interest in the lowly world of non-btc smart contracts. Beyond that it's not much that surprised me about it. Maybe that Poloniex decided to take on a dying chain, but they will have to explain themselves to the regulatory authorities if things go awry. Not me.

My whole point of engaging in this discussion was to prevent bitpop and a couple of others from wrecking the thread. I don't mind if you discuss etc news and price movements on this thread, but don't come here and try to disrupt the one place at bct where I can find some stuff and talk about Ethereum. This should not be a Ethereum Classic only thread. Bitpop has one of those. Whether or not it should be an Ethereum only thread will have to be up to the mods or thread starter.

Also, if you come to any thread with screaming inaccuracies you shouldn't be surprised if those are addressed.

So, address them then. I posted many links verifying everything I said. I don't speak from a position of ignorance.

Nothing I have "screamed" has been inaccurate. I have linked the reporting and you can easily follow the links to see the source in every situation.

Major mining pools have said they did not support it. Exchanges have said they did not support it. Pools said they were forced. exchanges said they were forced.

Where is you addressing these so-called inaccuracies? Nowhere. You've just shilled ETH and tried to discredit ETC, but you can't discredit ETC without discrediting ETH. It's developed by the same damn people.

[roselee]

Will DAO refund to both chains?

Not to eth. Only to forked eth. That was the whole point of the fork.

Don't confuse people

Exchanges show eth and etc

Only one exchange decided to rename eth to etc. Other exchanges will do the right thing when they start trading both chains.

This kind of trolling could lead to people losing money. Please stop it.

you losing money ?

[Mrpumperitis]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/digixglobalsecuresdeal-silverbullion-safe-house-singapore-1572491  only on ETH 

[bbc.reporter]

http://www.coindesk.com/tale-two-chains-ethereum/

"But let’s make it clear that we (the ethereum developers) have never abandoned the old chain. We never forked the chain. We have implemented a switch in our client to give users a choice to fork if they want to and that’s all. The "Ethereum Classic" chain is just as much our child as the forked one, and if both of them survive (which is the users’ choice, not ours), then I intend to take care of them equally in the future too."

There might be people in Vitalik's inner circle that does not agree in the hard fork. If those people leave where will they run? Yes, the original Ethereum chain. It is the one immutable, original, real chain. I fear for him because when everyone is truly shaken they might throw him out in the cold.