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Author Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning  (Read 2004216 times)
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July 25, 2016, 07:40:10 PM
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The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.

No, the real world where sometimes you don't get it your way. The non-fork did not have enough support. Get over it. Enjoy the new alt.

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July 25, 2016, 07:41:36 PM
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the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

are you stupid m8... forget the votes...
look at the price and hashrate....now compare them both to ETH and please tell me what you get

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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July 25, 2016, 07:45:41 PM
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the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

Well, its quite clear now what the masses wanted.

ETH is clearly not losing traction.

Also its hilarious seeing all the whining now.. when they had soo much time to do it before the fork. But said nothing. Just check the history of the most active ETC-posters and u'll see.

Also its becomming clear that ETC is risky and needs a hardfork.
HOW IRONIC IS THAT? HAH...

As the Digix Team and Maker Team has announced:
We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.



This is also ridiculously ironic:

"Ethereum Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Ethereum"

Except.. needing a hard fork.
And Bitpop is working hard at deleting posts and censoring as much as he can in the ETC-thread.


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Im sure investors will jump head first into that hive.... yeah, right?

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July 25, 2016, 07:47:40 PM
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frosty m8, you keep making one small error that i feel i must correct you on ...lol

its bitpoop...lolol

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July 25, 2016, 07:57:40 PM
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Pro-fork trolls should create new theme for the forked ether titled something like 'Welcome to the Fork1 Beginning'. This board is for the original ethereum.
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July 25, 2016, 07:58:14 PM
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The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.

No, the real world where sometimes you don't get it your way. The non-fork did not have enough support. Get over it. Enjoy the new alt.

The real world where sometimes you don't get your way goes the same for you as it does me.

The "non-fork" vote obviously has more support than you guys are willing to admit to.

If the vote was done in a fair and democratic way then this chain wouldn't have survived long enough to get added to Poloniex in the first place.

ETC is literally the exact same coin that had a billion dollar market cap a week ago. With developers saying they are going to support it still. If you want to dump yours, then dump. None of us care. We'll just buy it and profit later. If you're so convinced that ETC isn't going to survive then stop spamming the thread whining about us. Go do something more productive. I know I am. lol

the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

are you stupid m8... forget the votes...
look at the price and hashrate....now compare them both to ETH and please tell me what you get

A golden opportunity to get in on Ethereum at below ICO price. Or to mine at a profitable rate.

A true immutable and decentralized currency that will help revolutionize the internet. Without compromising on its core values.

the voting went something like 85% for 15% against...
this is now clearly reflected in the price of etc and the hashrate of etc which are both around 15% of the ETH total ( probably alot lower ,lol )



Which voting are you referring to?

The one where votes were based on how many ETH you sent to an address? Essentially allowing anyone to buy as many votes as they want for the side they want to win?

Or the ones where mining pools admit that the majority of their hashpower didn't participate in the vote?

Or maybe you're referring to the pool that voted against the fork but was forced to do it anyways?

Well, its quite clear now what the masses wanted.

ETH is clearly not losing traction.

Also its hilarious seeing all the whining now.. when they had soo much time to do it before the fork. But said nothing. Just check the history of the most active ETC-posters and u'll see.

Also its becomming clear that ETC is risky and needs a hardfork.
HOW IRONIC IS THAT? HAH...

As the Digix Team and Maker Team has announced:
We are not responsible for any ETC stolen via replay attacks against our systems. Users are encouraged to be cautious of replays on ETC and to use a splitting contract such as the one published by Kraken to preserve any ETC they care about.



This is also ridiculously ironic:

"Ethereum Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Ethereum"

Except.. needing a hard fork.
And Bitpop is working hard at deleting posts and censoring as much as he can in the ETC-thread.


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Im sure investors will jump head first into that hive.... yeah, right?

Don't invest then? lol. It makes no difference. I've already made like 1000% profit on the tiny bit of BTC I spent on mining. I sold my ETH at a profit before the DAO fiasco even happened.

I've already said that I don't consider ETH or BTC to be the one. I have investments in dozens of coins. I like to diversify. You can be an ETH bagholder, I don't care. By the time they had compromised on their core values I was already gone. I only touched ETC because I know how profitability works in mining. If you knew you would have mined it too.
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July 25, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
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Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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July 25, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
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Pro-fork trolls should create new theme for the forked ether titled something like 'Welcome to the Fork1 Beginning'. This board is for the original ethereum.
ETC  paying bagholder  ^
LOL you went from funny troll to stupid troll...lol

is the etc bag feelin heavy yet or are you buying more to average out hahhaha


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July 25, 2016, 08:04:50 PM
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Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

I mined it before it even hit the exchange. For me, it was quite profitable. I stopped mining it after 1000 other people started. lol. I'm not needed anymore. I did my part. I kept the chain alive long enough for it to be added to Polo. From there, it was up to the community to step in. Which, they did.

The chain only survived long enough for people like you to get free ETC because I (and about 10 - 20 others) mined it for profitability.




Do you actually think I care about DAPPS from ETH or ETC? lmao. I'll run my DAPPS in RISE for a millionth of the cost. lol. There are too many currencies making the same promise. Give me ETH for a dollar and I'm in. Oh wait, we already did. And I got out anyways. LOL
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July 25, 2016, 08:10:23 PM
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Perryl...etc is mining at a loss btw

Relax, we don't really need any more proof that you're just making stuff up and repeating random soundbites with no real knowledge, facts, numbers, or anything else of value.
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July 25, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
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Hello but today If i buy eth on poloniex i have TWO coin eth and etc?
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July 25, 2016, 09:00:44 PM
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Hello but today If i buy eth on poloniex i have TWO coin eth and etc?

No, only if you bought ETH before July 20.



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July 25, 2016, 09:01:30 PM
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Hello but today If i buy eth on poloniex i have TWO coin eth and etc?

No. Only ETH from before the fork becomes ETH+ETC.
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July 25, 2016, 09:10:36 PM
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Ok Thanks to all... But when Start DAO Refund in ETH?mi have DAO on bittrex ... Refund is automatic or i need WTD and convert in manual? If manual i can do? Thanks for The support
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July 25, 2016, 09:15:38 PM
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The real world you created by forcing "consensus" with the illusion of democracy. In the real world those votes get thrown out. Look what has happened here.

No, the real world where sometimes you don't get it your way. The non-fork did not have enough support. Get over it. Enjoy the new alt.

The real world where sometimes you don't get your way goes the same for you as it does me.

The "non-fork" vote obviously has more support than you guys are willing to admit to.

If the vote was done in a fair and democratic way then this chain wouldn't have survived long enough to get added to Poloniex in the first place.

ETC is literally the exact same coin that had a billion dollar market cap a week ago. With developers saying they are going to support it still. If you want to dump yours, then dump. None of us care. We'll just buy it and profit later. If you're so convinced that ETC isn't going to survive then stop spamming the thread whining about us. Go do something more productive. I know I am. lol

Yes, I was surprised to see BTCDrak, Samson Mow and Barry Silbert suddenly take an interest in the lowly world of non-btc smart contracts. Beyond that it's not much that surprised me about it. Maybe that Poloniex decided to take on a dying chain, but they will have to explain themselves to the regulatory authorities if things go awry. Not me.

My whole point of engaging in this discussion was to prevent bitpop and a couple of others from wrecking the thread. I don't mind if you discuss etc news and price movements on this thread, but don't come here and try to disrupt the one place at bct where I can find some stuff and talk about Ethereum. This should not be a Ethereum Classic only thread. Bitpop has one of those. Whether or not it should be an Ethereum only thread will have to be up to the mods or thread starter.

Also, if you come to any thread with screaming inaccuracies you shouldn't be surprised if those are addressed.

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July 25, 2016, 09:17:03 PM
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Ok Thanks to all... But when Start DAO Refund in ETH?mi have DAO on bittrex ... Refund is automatic or i need WTD and convert in manual? If manual i can do? Thanks for The support

It's already started. You should contact Bittrex about whether they have a conversion tool. I know poloniex has one.

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July 25, 2016, 09:49:11 PM
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Will DAO refund to both chains?

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July 25, 2016, 09:55:09 PM
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Will DAO refund to both chains?

No, only with eth.


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July 25, 2016, 10:09:27 PM
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Will DAO refund to both chains?
Not to eth. Only to forked eth. That was the whole point of the fork.
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July 25, 2016, 10:23:11 PM
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Will DAO refund to both chains?
Not to eth. Only to forked eth. That was the whole point of the fork.

Don't confuse people

Exchanges show eth and etc

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