[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[Cryptotourist]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

If happens about what you write, then not only venture capital will be destroyed, but many startups and ISO projects will be destroyed. Many investors and miners will lose their money for a very short time.

And then everybody will be much happier 

[alevlaslo]

besides bitcoin and ETH, you can not sit in anything in a falling market

ETC could not stand the bearish trend and announced the termination of the activities of one of its groups of developers
https://twitter.com/etcdev/status/1069625401515872256

[Majormax]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

The toughest issue is not going to be the low print price, but the time taken to recover, as you say. Around the beginning of this year my own estimate for the next BTC low was $1500 (just above the previous-but-one high)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg29705489#msg29705489

Back in Feb , I envisaged a low of $100 for ETH , but it could be $50 even. The recovery is likely to take longer than in 2015-6, because looking at the charts you can see the adoption waves flattening out over the long term.

Not a pleasant thought, but this CryptoWinter might last through to 2022.

[peterlustig]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

I read somewhere that the bitcoin will go as low as $1000 if that happens we can be sure that the entire crypto market will suffer badly.

what? that's bad news if Bitcoin will reach $ 1000 and then Ethereum increaslyng not there is a price it if Bitcoin fell as bad as that. if that happens maybe the crypto market will cry and at the moment we can see the market conditions now are very worrying. It looks like the news about Bitcoin will die soon will happen if the price of Bitcoin falls to $ 1000.

I will not worry at all because 1k is an extremely low amount for bitcoin the miners will never let the price go that low.

[micle222]

Hello friends who always enjoy threads about Ethereum.
I have an idea and want to ask the Ethereum expert here.

Will Vitalik Buterin create a special Exchange for his creation or already have it?


Regards
micle222

[lembang]

This is final mega shake out phase to be explained as tree shaking with full force to short as many people as possible. This won't be last but those will be after shocks timely. When I look around at development in external world talks of people here looks like they don't understand these markets or they are doing with intention negative comments. Ethereum's future and custody services along with Bitcoin as being discussed and planned while some people are declaring it done already.

After such a mega shake-up there should be a mega pump! I would never believe that Ether and Bitcoin will fall to lower positions. But it is not known what time it will take to recover.

I read somewhere that the bitcoin will go as low as $1000 if that happens we can be sure that the entire crypto market will suffer badly.

what? that's bad news if Bitcoin will reach $ 1000 and then Ethereum increaslyng not there is a price it if Bitcoin fell as bad as that. if that happens maybe the crypto market will cry and at the moment we can see the market conditions now are very worrying. It looks like the news about Bitcoin will die soon will happen if the price of Bitcoin falls to $ 1000.

I will not worry at all because 1k is an extremely low amount for bitcoin the miners will never let the price go that low.

if that's the case, then many will feel loss, but the price still makes sense, and I have confidence that eth will still exist because maybe my opinion is not only about the price but about the benefits gained from a project.

[cool4y]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

The toughest issue is not going to be the low print price, but the time taken to recover, as you say. Around the beginning of this year my own estimate for the next BTC low was $1500 (just above the previous-but-one high)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg29705489#msg29705489

Back in Feb , I envisaged a low of $100 for ETH , but it could be $50 even. The recovery is likely to take longer than in 2015-6, because looking at the charts you can see the adoption waves flattening out over the long term.

Not a pleasant thought, but this CryptoWinter might last through to 2022.

However, it might take less time to recover . Have in mind that crypto right now is way more popular and has much bigger community compared to 2015-6. Patience is needed for certain, but the bull run could be triggered anytime in my opinion.

[btcyoda]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

The toughest issue is not going to be the low print price, but the time taken to recover, as you say. Around the beginning of this year my own estimate for the next BTC low was $1500 (just above the previous-but-one high)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg29705489#msg29705489

Back in Feb , I envisaged a low of $100 for ETH , but it could be $50 even. The recovery is likely to take longer than in 2015-6, because looking at the charts you can see the adoption waves flattening out over the long term.

Not a pleasant thought, but this CryptoWinter might last through to 2022.

However, it might take less time to recover. Have in mind that crypto right now is way more popular and has a much bigger community compared to 2015-6. Patience is needed for certain, but the bull run could be triggered anytime in my opinion.

Yes, the community should understand that ETH has very huge potential in the market and yes if you compare with the previous the community gradually increased and supporting ETH very hugely. We need little more patience in the market in order to recover it's price.

[alevlaslo]

ETH or BCHabc? Both coins are the best, but BCHabc fell more and cheaper now

[RivAngE]

ETH or BCHabc? Both coins are the best, but BCHabc fell more and cheaper now

Apples or Bananas ? hm... the dilemma!

Go for Ethereum if you plan to use it as a payment for DAPPS. (...though I prefer ARK)
If you want to invest in a speculative coin like BCH-abc, then why would you go in a coin full of troubles? What's better in BCH compared to BTC and XRP?

[AlloM]

ETH or BCHabc? Both coins are the best, but BCHabc fell more and cheaper now

Apples or Bananas ? hm... the dilemma!

Go for Ethereum if you plan to use it as a payment for DAPPS. (...though I prefer ARK)
If you want to invest in a speculative coin like BCH-abc, then why would you go in a coin full of troubles? What's better in BCH compared to BTC and XRP?

Agreed with you that is very funny comparison it doesn't make any sense BCH ABC is just scam coin they don't have any future and no use which could bring some value for it.

[alevlaslo]

behind that coin are a lot of money and hashrate of Bitmain, ETC suffered from lack of funding and a small hashrate, but the BCH-abc have it all better than anywhere else

However, on the other hand https://twitter.com/btcking555

[nutildah]

Hey guys. Long time since I posted in this thread.

Is there a place I can go to check the current size of the Ethereum block chain?

Can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks.

[RivAngE]

Hey guys. Long time since I posted in this thread.

Is there a place I can go to check the current size of the Ethereum block chain?

Can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks.

I think what you're looking for is this: https://etherscan.io/chart2/chaindatasizefast

Though it says "ChainData Size Growth (FAST Sync)" , I don't know what "FAST SYNC" is nor if "ChainData size" is another word for "Blockchain size".

[dr.cheema]

Now, many people write that 100 million dollars are transferred from the purses of the Ether to the Exchange, which means big players with large capitals are planning to do something.

Price of ethereum is not rising but stable right at the moment, hope so support line of $100 will not break by panic seller.
Bitcoin again standing at $4000 and anytime btc can go higher or go down but no prediction about current crypto market.
This article: https://ethereumworldnews.com/ethereum-price-analysis-eth-usd-delicate-100/

Well it can be happen in future but we can not predict that they will dumb the price or pump the price!
But prices going down again and market red. right now we can just HOLD and buy more at this point or wait for dip.  

[SidArt]

ETH or BCHabc? Both coins are the best, but BCHabc fell more and cheaper now

Apples or Bananas ? hm... the dilemma!

Go for Ethereum if you plan to use it as a payment for DAPPS. (...though I prefer ARK)
If you want to invest in a speculative coin like BCH-abc, then why would you go in a coin full of troubles? What's better in BCH compared to BTC and XRP?

Good compare! i don't know why people think that one blockchain on this situation is good?
If someone working on real, working platform this is great. We need more working projects for now to move crypto forward. more coders, programmers, Dapps etc. Some of them will good, some will die in some time, but I hope they work with purpose to make crypto future closed and better. Just don't like pump and dump , but for now I can't do something with that.

[addicto]

behind that coin are a lot of money and hashrate of Bitmain, ETC suffered from lack of funding and a small hashrate, but the BCH-abc have it all better than anywhere else

However, on the other hand https://twitter.com/btcking555

Why BCH ABC lovers promoting this scam coin in this thread if you want to advertise than go away and find the alternate way for this purpose. On this forum nobody believe in this scam who have mind than he knows ETH has more better structure and this platform has wonderful use case.

[Perunex]

Like it or not, Ethereum is still by far the best smart contract provider and thus the most used (again by far). And it's a pioneer. Sure it has some problems lately, but can anyone call out an even close smart contract platform that is good enough. Speculation excluded.

I believe in ARK for example. They are developing like crazy. But it's still some time (and work) away from smart contract deployment.

[Piston Honda]

all ETH miners can soon jump to $RVN
and fuck ETC hahahaha

[Saverenergy]

I am not sure about ETH bottom since it was less than $10 at the beginning of 2017 while BTC was around $1000.

If BTC actually reaches $1000, then it will take a long time to recover because we are talking about a 95% loss from ATH. Most venture capitalists who poured huge money into crypto in 2017 will be wiped out and out of the game. There will be little growth and investments and many won't buy BTC in the future because "What if it crashes 95% again".

Same with ETH, I don't see it hitting $10 ever again but I also don't believe $100 could be the bottom, maybe around $75 or so.

The toughest issue is not going to be the low print price, but the time taken to recover, as you say. Around the beginning of this year my own estimate for the next BTC low was $1500 (just above the previous-but-one high)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg29705489#msg29705489

Back in Feb , I envisaged a low of $100 for ETH , but it could be $50 even. The recovery is likely to take longer than in 2015-6, because looking at the charts you can see the adoption waves flattening out over the long term.

Not a pleasant thought, but this CryptoWinter might last through to 2022.

However, it might take less time to recover. Have in mind that crypto right now is way more popular and has a much bigger community compared to 2015-6. Patience is needed for certain, but the bull run could be triggered anytime in my opinion.

Yes, the community should understand that ETH has very huge potential in the market and yes if you compare with the previous the community gradually increased and supporting ETH very hugely. We need little more patience in the market in order to recover it's price.

The problem at the moment is not the current price. The problem is that such a strong market decline allows whales to accumulate large amounts of coins. This, in turn, provides an even greater lever for price and market manipulation.