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March 15, 2014, 11:36:12 PM |
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I hope to partner up with some other bots to see what kind of multibot strategy we can develop.
you're ruining the game ldrugim people, why do it? make a limited number of bots and experiment. I could argue 20000 AFKs sitting on coin spots is ruining the game too. Not very interesting. you ruining the game bgb, and every bot will ruin it, no new players gonna join because of this. And in the long run you will ruin huntercoin... Bots no match for good human gameplay and teamwork. Not for another 10 to 20 years. BGB probably not running bots in any case. Just a lot a generals and hunters under human control. |
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March 15, 2014, 11:58:47 PM |
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Any news devs? edit: Just saw your post up there. Thx for all the feedback.
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BTC & LTC #DOGE #DRK #HUC #VTC
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snailbrain (OP)
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March 16, 2014, 12:18:16 AM
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just as a test.. All day to day, I left my ubuntu vm syncing with only 1 connection to my windows client which was on the longest chain.. obviously it should just sync right through (at least past the first fork from eligius pool), and it did. which COULD mean (in my mind) the tx are all valid. so the issue could just be some problem with reorganise onto the longest chain (as stated in my previous post, probably similar to the issue at launch with death-reorganise-resurrection) still, i'm only using remote viewing psyhcic technique to assume this  as this isn't confirmed by any experts yet - i'd still be wary (it could happen again any time unless fixed - and people can't still sync from scratch) the fork blocks will need investigating |
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March 16, 2014, 12:30:35 AM |
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is bgb really selling HUC?
No, this is rumor. |
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snailbrain (OP)
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March 16, 2014, 01:06:53 AM |
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is bgb really selling HUC?
No, this is rumor. if huntercoin stimulates innovation of intelligent bots, i think that's a good thing. Maybe it will be the birth of super AI --- maybe BGB will get a job controlling/writing algos for millitary robots/drones  if the entire map is filled with bots of one person, i don't think it will be good -- humans will need to rebel against the machines (ring a bell? ).. also i think it would be detrimental to the botmaster imo. as per the threads i created prior to release, i stated that maybe it will become humans vs humans, bots vs humans, bots vs bots... for now, those that are concerned, don't worry about it. The game was supposed to be a team game.. everyone is "soloing" that i know of. Real Elite Human Teams will probably form if/when the value increases. -- off topic ish.. the last project i knew Mikhail was about to start work on was to do with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_colony_optimization_algorithmsit wasn't anything to do with huntercoin.. was a co-incidence .. afterwords i thought - this may be useful for bots in Huntercoin.. unfortunately i never got a chance to talk to him about it |
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March 16, 2014, 01:30:10 AM |
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I am completely non technical and have no idea what anyone is talking about for the last 5 pages.
I bought a bunch of HUC a couple of weeks ago and keep them on qt...the name on the zip archive is "Huntercoin-1.00.05c-time-to-dest"
I have not opened my qt or done any transactions for almost a week, definitely before these apparent problems started.
Are my coins safe? once we are eventually all on one chain again will the coins still be recognised as mine and I will be able to spend them without needing to do anything different?
Thanks
1) Your coins are safe. 2) You should back up your wallet. (Check my sig for some backup software for wallets.) 3) If you are on the wrong chain, you shouldn't do anything at all. Don't send. Don't receive. Get on the right chain. 2) I have a back up from after my last transaction which was before this problem. Any need for another new back up? 3) How do I know what chain im on? How do I get on the right chain? My qt has not been open for a week so last time it synced there was only 1 chain. BTW I do not want to make any transactions or play for the moment, I just want to know that if I do, say in 2 months, all I will have to do is open the qt and press send or if thats not the case what I have to do to make it the case. Cheers 2) No, probably not. If you've not used the wallet for anything, then there should be no need for a new backup. However, that being said, I'm on the paranoid side, and the utility I wrote lets me back up all my wallets with 1 click, so... I tend to create backups fairly often. There's no harm in having an extra backup. There is harm in not having a recent enough backup though. 3) You'll need to open up the QT and sync to find out. Compare it against huntercoin.info (on the short chain) with what other people post here. At the moment, I'm on block 93,003. You don't technically *need* to have a sync'd wallet to send/receive, but it's probably a good idea to do anyways. I just leave wallets open and running to keep them sync'd. But Huntercoin is a bit different than most... For your playing wallet, you don't want it encrypted. For your non-playing "wallet" wallet, you should encrypt that. You can swap out wallets easily enough by moving the files around. Make sure to back them both up and to know which is which. My backup utility doesn't handle this particular situation automatically. You'd need to have probably 2 folders labelled something like "playwallet" and "coinwallet" and then manually add them to the list of files to back up. |
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March 16, 2014, 01:36:49 AM |
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keep getting 11DbException
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RenegadeMind
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March 16, 2014, 01:42:11 AM |
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...as per the threads i created prior to release, i stated that maybe it will become humans vs humans, bots vs humans, bots vs bots... I was thinking about this, and I think that what will happen will evolve beyond "bots". Basically, I see the game right now as humans playing "hunters" or running "bots". But the bots won't last long. What I predict is that the game will evolve from humans playing hunters, to humans playing "armies". When I say "armies", I mean humans using more complex GUI interfaces to control larger numbers of hunters in a semi-automated fashion. i.e. There will be humans intelligently guiding bot armies against other humans intelligently guiding bot armies. Purely automated bots will suffer under those conditions, and... =---> either disappear or evolve radically... =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots... tl;dr - Huntercoin will shift from humans controlling "hunters" to humans controlling "hunter armies". So, for the people complaining about "bots"... Just wait. Your time is coming! |
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March 16, 2014, 02:09:27 AM |
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still looking into the issue even though everyone (on here :d) seems to agree the longest chain is the correct one - i'd still not trade, and be wary. Possible there is some invalid tx in the chain. Needs further investigation. -- also.. people can't sync onto the chain from scratch, so still needs a fix whether it's right or not. AND, it might happen again -- There is an update if anyone is interested in looking: new RPC command, getchains https://github.com/chronokings/huntercoin/pull/19also more debug for reorg https://github.com/chronokings/huntercoin/pull/18i've not uploaded windows version yet.. ---- hopefully this will provide more insight, and allow people to investigate further. If you are a dev and want to support the community, and find and fix the problem sooner there will be a bounty. -- apologise for the late response, have been moving home.. Once you decide on which fork is correct, pick one block after the fork occurred on the chain you want to keep, add that block as a checkpoint, and release a wallet update. |
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March 16, 2014, 02:12:34 AM |
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...as per the threads i created prior to release, i stated that maybe it will become humans vs humans, bots vs humans, bots vs bots... I was thinking about this, and I think that what will happen will evolve beyond "bots". Basically, I see the game right now as humans playing "hunters" or running "bots". But the bots won't last long. What I predict is that the game will evolve from humans playing hunters, to humans playing "armies". When I say "armies", I mean humans using more complex GUI interfaces to control larger numbers of hunters in a semi-automated fashion. i.e. There will be humans intelligently guiding bot armies against other humans intelligently guiding bot armies. Purely automated bots will suffer under those conditions, and... =---> either disappear or evolve radically... =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots... tl;dr - Huntercoin will shift from humans controlling "hunters" to humans controlling "hunter armies". So, for the people complaining about "bots"... Just wait. Your time is coming! Lol.. then the coin will be renamed as Terminator Coin.... |
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snailbrain (OP)
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March 16, 2014, 02:43:09 AM |
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...as per the threads i created prior to release, i stated that maybe it will become humans vs humans, bots vs humans, bots vs bots... I was thinking about this, and I think that what will happen will evolve beyond "bots". Basically, I see the game right now as humans playing "hunters" or running "bots". But the bots won't last long. What I predict is that the game will evolve from humans playing hunters, to humans playing "armies". When I say "armies", I mean humans using more complex GUI interfaces to control larger numbers of hunters in a semi-automated fashion. i.e. There will be humans intelligently guiding bot armies against other humans intelligently guiding bot armies. Purely automated bots will suffer under those conditions, and... =---> either disappear or evolve radically... =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots... tl;dr - Huntercoin will shift from humans controlling "hunters" to humans controlling "hunter armies". So, for the people complaining about "bots"... Just wait. Your time is coming! is called The Technological Singularity (or similar) |
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RenegadeMind
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March 16, 2014, 02:45:04 AM |
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...as per the threads i created prior to release, i stated that maybe it will become humans vs humans, bots vs humans, bots vs bots... I was thinking about this, and I think that what will happen will evolve beyond "bots". Basically, I see the game right now as humans playing "hunters" or running "bots". But the bots won't last long. What I predict is that the game will evolve from humans playing hunters, to humans playing "armies". When I say "armies", I mean humans using more complex GUI interfaces to control larger numbers of hunters in a semi-automated fashion. i.e. There will be humans intelligently guiding bot armies against other humans intelligently guiding bot armies. Purely automated bots will suffer under those conditions, and... =---> either disappear or evolve radically... =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots... tl;dr - Huntercoin will shift from humans controlling "hunters" to humans controlling "hunter armies". So, for the people complaining about "bots"... Just wait. Your time is coming! Lol.. then the coin will be renamed as Terminator Coin.... Come with me if you want to go to the moon!  |
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RenegadeMind
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March 16, 2014, 02:51:49 AM |
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...as per the threads i created prior to release, i stated that maybe it will become humans vs humans, bots vs humans, bots vs bots... I was thinking about this, and I think that what will happen will evolve beyond "bots". Basically, I see the game right now as humans playing "hunters" or running "bots". But the bots won't last long. What I predict is that the game will evolve from humans playing hunters, to humans playing "armies". When I say "armies", I mean humans using more complex GUI interfaces to control larger numbers of hunters in a semi-automated fashion. i.e. There will be humans intelligently guiding bot armies against other humans intelligently guiding bot armies. Purely automated bots will suffer under those conditions, and... =---> either disappear or evolve radically... =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more complex "army" software for humans to use to counter the more intelligent bots, =---> which will lead to more intelligent bots... tl;dr - Huntercoin will shift from humans controlling "hunters" to humans controlling "hunter armies". So, for the people complaining about "bots"... Just wait. Your time is coming! is called The Technological Singularity (or similar) The short term is still bleak... http://www.businessinsider.com.au/bill-gates-bots-are-taking-away-jobs-2014-3http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/13/bill-gates-says-neither-people-nor-governments-are-prepared-for-the-huge-changes-coming-to-the-labor-market/http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9246986/Gates_sees_software_replacing_people_Greenspan_calls_for_more_H_1Bs_Within 20 years, “software substitution” will dramatically reduce the demand for many types jobs, Bill Gates said Thursday at the American Enterprise Institute. It’s a gloomy prediction that he says many people, including governments, aren’t prepared for.
Make no mistake, “software substitution” is a fancy way of saying software automation — as in “bots” and whatnot. Many of the jobs that could be eliminated are lower skill occupations.
“Software substitution, whether it’s for drivers or waiters or nurses … it’s progressing,” Gates said. “Technology over time will reduce demand for jobs, particularly at the lower end of skill set. … 20 years from now, labor demand for lots of skill sets will be substantially lower. I don’t think people have that in their mental model.” What's interesting is that Huntercoin offers a very real, highly controlled & predictable (cryptographically secure with set rules) environment where exactly these kinds of scenarios can be explored on an abstract level. i.e. Will my prediction of human "bot masters" become a reality for Huntercoin, and does that model extend to "software automation", and if so, how? (I would exclude maintenance from "bot master".) |
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BGB_HUC
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March 16, 2014, 03:42:57 AM |
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Running bot armies is definitely on my radar. Just over a week ago I experimented with a couple of armies to watch their behavior and gain some more information. A nice add on gui to control them would have been nice, but instead I can use the chat to change their behavior and direction. Of course using the correct commander name and command format is necessary.
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RenegadeMind
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March 16, 2014, 05:07:16 AM |
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Running bot armies is definitely on my radar. Just over a week ago I experimented with a couple of armies to watch their behavior and gain some more information. A nice add on gui to control them would have been nice, but instead I can use the chat to change their behavior and direction. Of course using the correct commander name and command format is necessary.
Any plans on releasing a public version?  |
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March 16, 2014, 05:49:29 AM |
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Running bot armies is definitely on my radar. Just over a week ago I experimented with a couple of armies to watch their behavior and gain some more information. A nice add on gui to control them would have been nice, but instead I can use the chat to change their behavior and direction. Of course using the correct commander name and command format is necessary.
Any plans on releasing a public version? Any chance of keeping it private, but selling for HUC ! |
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March 16, 2014, 06:35:14 AM |
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So i downloaded everything from the scratch and im on the longest chain now. 93253
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paradigmflux
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March 16, 2014, 06:50:20 AM |
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Ok... a post NOT about "which chain"...
KEEPING THE CROWN
I think a lot of people noticed that the crown was being kept pretty well for a long time, and being cashed out fairly often.
The only way I can think of to do this is to get in another colour, destruct, then swoop in and snatch up the crown and coins from it. There's a risk there, but it's a calculated risk.
Does anyone have any other ideas on it?
easy bro check the general logs, the chinamen haven't had a general hold the crown in forever that way they can just destruct their general and the crown falls onto that square so they pile up that square with their own players, and other members of their chinese cartel detonate the general, they all share the crown, then the crown goes to a random person in that square (who is also part of their chinese cartel) cash out all the guys with money, re-stack the square with the crown with more armies, rinse and repeat |
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paradigmflux
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March 16, 2014, 06:51:14 AM |
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and uhhhm the longest chain is valid?
there was a longer chain that was totally frozen up at one point, is that the one now considered valid?? or the 'middle chain"??
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