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June 01, 2018, 08:36:38 AM
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What happens if you are in a third world country and there is massive corruption? You pay taxes and there are no roads, schools, or any essential public utilities. What you do see is the politicians and their cronies getting richer. Would you still argue that everybody should continue paying taxes?

I think the next time you people needs to choose the right kind of government , or better stand up for the change , but at least do your part right .
You cannot expect the other party to be completely honest when you are not rightfully doing your duty.
Everyone wants to mock the dirty river but no one wants to get their hands dirty is the real deal with us , if we want better , if we want the corruption to end we need to do it ourselves and not wait for some miracle , doing our small bit and doing our duty are the two things that I consider is something that is the recipe for change .
Countries are corrupt the leaders are not right I completely understand but then it's rightfully in the hands of us to change it , if they are doing bad we cannot just reciprocate bad .
I would say choose a better government or get involved in government body , even if you change one person it will truly change the world but not paying taxes and simply saying no man they are wrong so even we can do wrong is not justified is what I think.

I was born under a dictatorship regime, and that government was in power, corruption was the norm for almost 30 years and it took the collaborative efforts of people around, (military, church officials, governments authorities who can't stomach it anymore, and ordinary people to topple the dictatorship. And even was jumping for joy that time and thought that the country was heading in the right direction. 30 years moving forward, the country is still the same, corruption everywhere. So I don't think that we can simply move out of the country, less its a choice but if you don't have the necessary funds to go out you will be stuck forever. Although the current government is doing its best to curb out corruption like increasing the salary of the policeman, there are a lot being tempted to accept bribe money. That's why you can't really blame someone doesn't want to pay their taxes because we know that it will just go to the pockets of corrupt government officials.

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Taxes are correct, but then where they go without control into the pockets of thieves is terrible. Pay taxes to arrange someone an excellent life ...
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Personally, I almost do not use fiat money, it's much easier for me to come to the store and pay by credit card. That the society goes to bank transfer is good I think.
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If you are walking on the road and enjoying a nice day at the nearby park it's all because someone paid their taxes.
Taxes helps a lot , I have seen people frowning over about how they don't want to pay any taxes and as such.
Government ensures that if you earn over a certain amount then for sure you can contribute in the making of your country. It's only if you are able to.
Taxes helps in :

    Paying the salary of government employees
    Making of roads
    Public schools
    Parks run by the government
    Maintenance fees
    Making government hospitals
    Making high schools ... The list is endless

We all use all these services at one part of the life or other therefore we can just consider it a little payment for that .
People frown how government is corrupt , it is but not entirely if it was then you woont see new projects coming up in your town or city.

It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.
We should pay taxes to the governments because our tax money is the main revenue to run the governments but the problem is all the taxes are gets misused by the politicians that is why most people are lose interest on serving to their country now they all want to save money for themselves.First of all we need to good leaders to have good governments.

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June 01, 2018, 10:27:50 AM
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the taxation system is in place for the construction of various infrastructure facilities for the benefit of the whole community of a nation. so it is very clear that the tax system is very important to be allocated to various development sectors. but sometimes the trust is often in use by irresponsible elements who just want to take advantage of the existence of taxation system by doing various cheating as well as corruption.





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June 01, 2018, 10:38:41 AM
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Here in crypto most of business don't have taxes like in some transaction and different kinds of of investing not like in real life but still we need to have license in some business here to run then for me that's good because there's an assurance that they will be punish by government if they scam other i think the best example of this is our own btc wallet with fiat wallet too like if we experience anything not good or problem in transaction from our wallet we can be help by government so that's good for users here and the owner of our btc wallet pay taxes then we only pay fees not taxes still the owner can earn too by that

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June 01, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
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Taxes are correct, but then where they go without control into the pockets of thieves is terrible. Pay taxes to arrange someone an excellent life ...

So true. I can pay taxes whole heartedly if i will see where taxes go like if I see my country is widely develop and progressive and people don't experience too much hardships. But things went differently, yes taxes are put in their pockets instead of people's need and don't realize their soul is being burn in hell even they still alive. Based on constitution, people should be above of government but what happend is vise versa.

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June 01, 2018, 11:22:04 AM
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Off course most of us know that very well. However in some countries the politics is so much worst that they will eat your money (tax) and wont develop the proper infrastructure for you. In such countries people tend to avoid the taxes as they dont even get proper facilities to use! So why they should pay it anyway and why they should care. In such countries it becomes but obvious that people convert their earnings into the black money thus avoiding everything.

But I agree that it shoddy be paid time to time no matter what. As at least 10% of which will go to the setting up of things around.

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June 01, 2018, 11:47:17 AM
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The responsibility and duty of every citizen to pay tax. The government imposes taxes on the benefit of citizens. As a result of your tax payment, the government's revenue sector will remain constant. This allows the government to do development work.
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Tax becomes the largest state revenue that the state uses to build all regions or territories that exist in a State. Therefore, citizen participation is required to pay tax. that is the reason why we have to pay taxes.
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June 01, 2018, 12:05:01 PM
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There some countries who are not collecting income taxes simply because they are capable to survive even without it and they have the resources that can bring lives to their people, mostly its in middle east. Those who are in a third world country tax is very important, I'm not afraid to pay for my taxes now because I'm a product of taxation because of those taxes I was able to finish my study as a scholar student before. Tax is good but since government are too corrupt, people are now afraid to pay taxes and making way to evade it.

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June 01, 2018, 12:10:12 PM
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I have never thought about this even but to my mind this is a must to support the governmental system. our taxes are used for many things. sure that nobody doesn't want to pay taxes but what we can do

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June 01, 2018, 12:17:46 PM
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Exactly,  I don't know why'd some people sometimes complaining about paying taxes, well if they complaining about why'd some government employees do corruption about the taxes it could be reasonable because I did that also as it's happening in my country.

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June 01, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
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Taxation is theft. "But who will build the roads" argument is really old and dumb, people are not some stupid monkeys who can't figure out things if no one guides them, there's nothing that can not be done privately and through voluntary cooperation (which is the same as privately). Roads, military, science and so on - all of it can and is done privately around the world. Government is exactly why Bitcoin was invented - you can't trust people with power and believe that they will do as they've promised, and even well-meaning leaders do stupid mistakes that cost billions. Just like Bitcoin have decentralized economy, some day people will decentralize power to the point when every individual will be independent from others.

If everyone went ahead to do things personally then there won't be any scope of a systemized channel and possibilities of having endless problems won't be able to be ruled out , at the end of the day people are different everyone's different thus it's not easy for someone to say something like this . This seems like an argument of a 2 year old , since the system is what keeps everyone together and in check .
Democrats are not mad that they have invented this since thousand of years also you should know that if given chance to people will run away from doing any good for other rather than they are more or less set on themselves and it won't be able to provide for a linear future for others .
It's not as easy as it seems even though it might be fancy but it's no child play to run a government that big, we cannot be like ramapithecus since we have literally more cranial capacity that old animal is long gone and humans have evolved and more or less there are bad people around here too ... We cannot just let them do as they please a government body is a must to take care of all the decisions because leaving decisions of that big of a country on everyone without any further details will turn out to be a big mess because everyone will have thier own point of view and the majority point of view will be more or less targeted by the ones in the minority.
Tell me will you make road all by yourself when it's needed using your money ? Altogether your money ?
It's not possible dude . It is just a recipe of chaos.

I agree with OP in this matter. Without the government, there would be chaos everywhere, no establishment would be built, there would be a large gap between the rich and the poor. Let us admit it that no one would do such things if we don't make a contribution like taxes to pay some people to do those jobs. We cannot remove the fact that some people are just corrupt but I believe that someone is still good to lead, the country would advance for a better future.

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June 01, 2018, 01:32:34 PM
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if you pay taxes for the developments you mentioned using paper currency I think that's true but if you pay taxes to government using digital currency cryptocurrency like bitcoin is wrong because the government should not be able to control bitcoin.

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June 01, 2018, 01:46:34 PM
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If you are walking on the road and enjoying a nice day at the nearby park it's all because someone paid their taxes.
Taxes helps a lot , I have seen people frowning over about how they don't want to pay any taxes and as such.
Government ensures that if you earn over a certain amount then for sure you can contribute in the making of your country. It's only if you are able to.
Taxes helps in :

    Paying the salary of government employees
    Making of roads
    Public schools
    Parks run by the government
    Maintenance fees
    Making government hospitals
    Making high schools ... The list is endless

We all use all these services at one part of the life or other therefore we can just consider it a little payment for that .
People frown how government is corrupt , it is but not entirely if it was then you woont see new projects coming up in your town or city.

It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.

We must pay tax to the government.In a country ,not all the people go to private hospital.The people under poverty line would depend on government hospital for their medical needs .If we don't pay our tax,it reduce the funds to government.Finally it affect the government expenses.
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If you are walking on the road and enjoying a nice day at the nearby park it's all because someone paid their taxes.
Taxes helps a lot , I have seen people frowning over about how they don't want to pay any taxes and as such.
Government ensures that if you earn over a certain amount then for sure you can contribute in the making of your country. It's only if you are able to.
Taxes helps in :

    Paying the salary of government employees
    Making of roads
    Public schools
    Parks run by the government
    Maintenance fees
    Making government hospitals
    Making high schools ... The list is endless

We all use all these services at one part of the life or other therefore we can just consider it a little payment for that .
People frown how government is corrupt , it is but not entirely if it was then you woont see new projects coming up in your town or city.

It's just our responsibility to pay taxes, we shouldn't run from it because it will more or so be used for everyone out there in your country , you are indirectly helping others too through paying them , the less advantageous ones.

Also one might say government can print all the money they need , but that's not the case ..the more money a government prints the lower the value of their currency gets which genrally have adverse effects in many sectors.

You have a brain of a sheep. Kudos to you, hijo! As far as I can recall, somewhere in America there are people who were called mohawks, and fuck they didn't need the government at all. And who the hell needs schools, roads, and etcetera anyway?

These aren't our needs at all... the only reason why you think like that is because you are too scared to be independent.

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June 01, 2018, 01:56:43 PM
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Tax = legal theft to have wealth flow out of the pockets of the regulars, straight into the pockets of the elite.

Sure, tax is also used to build infrastructure and whatnot, but that only concerns a small fraction of what they gain from our financial support. It's only done to show the sheeples of this world that their financial support is being used for good things. What these sheeples don't know, is that all the contracting concerning building infrastructure goes to companies within their own circle. It's again the elite feeding the elite. In other words, itself.

Regardless of what people say or think, no one has the right to force me to pay tax over my income, gains, and existing wealth.

You can seize everything on my bank accounts, you can seize all my assets being controlled by whatever central party. You can't reach my Bitcoins. Wink

Believe me, if the tax policies were set up in a fair manner that actually benefits the country, and thus not the elite, people would pay tax out of free will. Tax evasion happens for a reason. These people are labelled as criminals, but they are people just like you and me, protecting what we believe is ours.

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I'm not against contribution in the form of taxes, but let's be clear, these would have to be JUST taxes.
A percentage based income tax is not just! It's a socialist tax that is meant to punish hard working people and reward laziness.
Tax brackets are another totally unjust feature that makes people renounce their deserved raises because sometimes taking a $100 a month raise would put them in a higher tax bracket and make them even poorer than they are without that raise. This is ridiculous.
Want to know some other idiotic cases? Believe it or not, there are countries that offer welfare to the poorest and then tax them, because the yearly tax threshold is lower than monthly welfare x12.

IMO citizens have the moral obligation to oppose unjust taxation.

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I believe any kind of taxation can be only voluntary (which basically is not taxes but just payment for services already). It's true that for some life occasions
it's simpler for large groups of people to organize and pay for the same cause, but the situation when taxes are being enforced is completely unacceptable for me.

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