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[cryptofrka]

They would probably finish outside top 4 with Guardiola and Klopp combined. Their team only has names on paper, it has no balance and no chemistry and Pogba is doing whatever he wants most of the time.

Solskjaer is not their biggest problem, I'm still not sure he actually is a problem - at least for now. They need a better manager, but currently? I feel they have more chance of doing well without major shocks.

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[Trofo]

^  If they don't give him the sack they finish below the top 4 and potentially finish below it for a couple more years. 

If it were up to me, they should've just stuck with LVG and started a slow rebuild of the club from the back room to the squad.

I really don't like LVG, I know i am not objective but I can't stand his smug face drooping blame all around, while never admitting he made some wrong decisions every time his team doesn't get full 3 points.

I quite like the new generation of attacking minded coaches like Klopp, Nagelsmann, Bjelica (Dinamo coach) and even Lampard. I know I will get burned by mentioning Lampard but I like the way Chealsea plays under him and the fact he is giving regular starts to club youngsters. The club can only profit from that in the long run.

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I think it does. It is a rule that is geometric, there are no opinions about it. It either is or is not, imagine if in basketball somebody scored a winning 3-pointer 0.2 seconds too late. You cant say 'well, it's less than half a second, man'.

There's still opinion when you've got to decide on whether it's offside or not and that's why we have officials. It's not always clear cut even with var and what happens when they're on the line. You really can't see millimetres even with var. They brought in the phrase 'clear and obvious error' but that's still open to interpretation and sometimes things are given in one game and not in the other. As for time, that's different. We don't need var for that but refs don't blow the whistle bang on the time they should and let the game run especially if the team is attacking. My issue is is var should only be used when called upon or when there's a serious incident. Don't review everything just because. If the incident is so small that nobody noticed then it's probably irrelevant, and someone being millimetres offside isn't relevant or serious in my opinion and is causing far too much time to be wasted along.

I'm for it, as long as it looks at an actual play that led to the goal. Not the whole minute before, because if the ball went out of play in the centre and then both teams continued to play and team 1 scores a goal 15 seconds later you cannot disallow a goal because VAR said it was actually out.

But this is happening far to often and they seem to be running things back longer and longer. I've seen several matches where nearly five minutes have been taken to view the var system.

^  If they don't give him the sack they finish below the top 4 and potentially finish below it for a couple more years. 

If it were up to me, they should've just stuck with LVG and started a slow rebuild of the club from the back room to the squad.

They need to get rid of this culture of sacking managers after a handful of bad games. Managers don't have time to achieve anything unless you move to the Barca's/Juve's/Man City's of the world. Fergie would have been sacked in his first season if he was a new manager today. What Leicester did to Ranieri did was disgusting. Had they have given him a little longer I'm sure he would have bounced back like they did anyway.

[DeathAngel]

They would probably finish outside top 4 with Guardiola and Klopp combined. Their team only has names on paper, it has no balance and no chemistry and Pogba is doing whatever he wants most of the time.

Solskjaer is not their biggest problem, I'm still not sure he actually is a problem - at least for now. They need a better manager, but currently? I feel they have more chance of doing well without major shocks.

Mourinho was doing better with this squad than Solksjaer is to be honest. He won a couple of trophies, admittedly they still weren’t doing great but better than now.

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They would probably finish outside top 4 with Guardiola and Klopp combined. Their team only has names on paper, it has no balance and no chemistry and Pogba is doing whatever he wants most of the time.

Solskjaer is not their biggest problem, I'm still not sure he actually is a problem - at least for now. They need a better manager, but currently? I feel they have more chance of doing well without major shocks.

Mourinho was doing better with this squad than Solksjaer is to be honest. He won a couple of trophies, admittedly they still weren’t doing great but better than now.

He is more experienced and it's for sure better manager. But Mourinho's style of play was awful. He also bought players randomly. Lukaku - not to go in Chelsea, Fred, Sanchez - not to go in M.City. too many misses. He wins a trophy with a lot of luck. Remember the semifinals games against Anderlecht and late win in 110min.
Last three signings look best on the field and it's OGS players. There is a problem because they need to replace the minimum 10 more players and it can be in one summer.
It will be more pain here for MU supporters.

[Harkorede]

There's still opinion when you've got to decide on whether it's offside or not and that's why we have officials. It's not always clear cut even with var and what happens when they're on the line. You really can't see millimetres even with var. They brought in the phrase 'clear and obvious error' but that's still open to interpretation and sometimes things are given in one game and not in the other. As for time, that's different. We don't need var for that but refs don't blow the whistle bang on the time they should and let the game run especially if the team is attacking. My issue is is var should only be used when called upon or when there's a serious incident. Don't review everything just because. If the incident is so small that nobody noticed then it's probably irrelevant, and someone being millimetres offside isn't relevant or serious in my opinion and is causing far too much time to be wasted along.

I agree with you to some extent, If there is no real goal threat and/or the offside isn't noticeable at first glance, then play shouldn't be stopped, You can't keep reviewing every goal or stopping play for a potential offside that wasn't even in question at first glance. However, If for whatever play has to be stopped to for a review, then being just a micrometer offside(If it can be proven) should be enough reason to disallow a goal.

Another problem is the fact that players themselves are always requesting for a review and referee often are left with no choice. There should be a certain standard in place to determine whether or not a review is necessary, at least one the assistant referee should be able to determine the necessity and therefore make a signal.

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There's still opinion when you've got to decide on whether it's offside or not and that's why we have officials. It's not always clear cut even with var and what happens when they're on the line. You really can't see millimetres even with var. They brought in the phrase 'clear and obvious error' but that's still open to interpretation and sometimes things are given in one game and not in the other. As for time, that's different. We don't need var for that but refs don't blow the whistle bang on the time they should and let the game run especially if the team is attacking. My issue is is var should only be used when called upon or when there's a serious incident. Don't review everything just because. If the incident is so small that nobody noticed then it's probably irrelevant, and someone being millimetres offside isn't relevant or serious in my opinion and is causing far too much time to be wasted along.

I agree with you to some extent, If there is no real goal threat and/or the offside isn't noticeable at first glance, then play shouldn't be stopped, You can't keep reviewing every goal or stopping play for a potential offside that wasn't even in question at first glance.

Yeah, things should only be reviewed if there's some doubt. Otherwise, why look for a problem?

However, If for whatever play has to be stopped to for a review, then being just a micrometer offside(If it can be proven) should be enough reason to disallow a goal.

If the other team requests a review, sure, but I still think millimetres offside isn't an issue.

Another problem is the fact that players themselves are always requesting for a review and referee often are left with no choice. There should be a certain standard in place to determine whether or not a review is necessary, at least one the assistant referee should be able to determine the necessity and therefore make a signal.

I think they're not meant to do this, but you can do a similar thing to they do in tennis (I think) where you only get three calls to request a review.

[DeathAngel]

Man Utd need to bite the bullet, fire Ole & put somebody in temporary charge until they can get somebody who deserves to be manager. Look to Simeone, Pochettino, Anfelotti, somebody who has won stuff as a manager. Ole is a joke.

Done my predictions for this weekend any way

[tokeweed]

^  Poch please.

Edit:  I wouldn't mind seeing Naglesmann at the EPL too. 

They would probably finish outside top 4 with Guardiola and Klopp combined. Their team only has names on paper, it has no balance and no chemistry and Pogba is doing whatever he wants most of the time.

Solskjaer is not their biggest problem, I'm still not sure he actually is a problem - at least for now. They need a better manager, but currently? I feel they have more chance of doing well without major shocks.

Mourinho was doing better with this squad than Solksjaer is to be honest. He won a couple of trophies, admittedly they still weren’t doing great but better than now.

What Mou did wrong at United was whining about his players and the club which was doing more harm than good for everybody concerned including himself.  I'm not saying he's wrong, he was right.  But it was the wrong thing to do.

[Harkorede]

^  Poch please.
What Mou did wrong at United was whining about his players and the club which was doing more harm than good for everybody concerned including himself.  I'm not saying he's wrong, he was right.  But it was the wrong thing to do.

My problem with Mourinho would be he'd public single out players for errors made after almost every loss claiming (he or some players) didn't play according to his plan, but he'd attribute every success to himself.

He creates imaginary enemies with everyone, even within his squads, It happened at Real, Chelsea and United. Some of his decision are often right but he doesn't handle them with the slightest maturity.

[Trofo]

^That is just Mourinho way. Whine about everything and never admit you are wrong. In the meantime fire some physio or pick a fight with a player and kick him out of the club to keep the tension going.

I like coaches which are man enough to say something like "I chose wrong tactic for this match and that is why we lost" or "Oposing manager surprised me and that is why we looked bad in the first half".

[cryptofrka]

Of course Solskjaer is not the man to bring United to former glory. But I think people are not really aware of how low United has really fallen and that it will take time for them to crawl back up.

They will just waste more time if they change managers after every 10 games, that club needs stability and currently I think Solskjaer with this team he is starting to build is doing quite ok.

The problems are above his head, they wasted a ton of money on signings that just are not performing and are either fed up with football or just lazy and that mistakes were done before he arrived at the club.

[cryptofrka]

Hahah, I have to admit I did not see this coming.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/reactions-news-legends-arsene-wenger-wants-to-become-manchester-united-manager-20190926

Wenger... 'Manchester United is a dream job. I have confidence, I have courage and I have ideas'

This would be tremendously funny if it happened.

[tokeweed]

Of course Solskjaer is not the man to bring United to former glory. But I think people are not really aware of how low United has really fallen and that it will take time for them to crawl back up.

They will just waste more time if they change managers after every 10 games, that club needs stability and currently I think Solskjaer with this team he is starting to build is doing quite ok.

The problems are above his head, they wasted a ton of money on signings that just are not performing and are either fed up with football or just lazy and that mistakes were done before he arrived at the club.

We'll see...  The result of their match vs the Gunners at home will def be a turning point if they wanna stick with Solksjaer or not.  El Sackiko!

[DeathAngel]

^  If they don't give him the sack they finish below the top 4 and potentially finish below it for a couple more years. 

If it were up to me, they should've just stuck with LVG and started a slow rebuild of the club from the back room to the squad.

I agree, the fired LVG way too quickly, at least he’s been there & done it as a manager. Solksjaer is a rookie without a clue how to fix what’s going wrong. They are in deep trouble because Man City & LFC are getting better & better, Arsenal will improve under Emery. Chelsea will get better too, maybe Spurs will drop off when Poch & players move on.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Have we all done our predictions yet? It’s getting tight at the top of the leaderboard, too tight. Still early though, we will know who is going to challenge for the paid spots after Xmas.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I will be doing mine sometimes later today and I hope this week I have a good round. It was shit last week with only 6.5 points I guess LOL. I will be also doing my pick for FortuneJack majestic.

[cryptofrka]

This week's games are really tough to call. I messed up in the last round, I seriously need a good one now and I'm clueless as to what to pick

[Mbitr]

Have we all done our predictions yet? It’s getting tight at the top of the leaderboard, too tight. Still early though, we will know who is going to challenge for the paid spots after Xmas.

Easier picks this week I believe- we will see - I really dropped last week, so hoping for a better week.
It’s not to tight at the top, seems to be one single front runner at the moment ...... , but I’m confident we’ll catch you up fella .
No, seriously, Keep up the good work  

[hilariousetc]

Man Utd need to bite the bullet, fire Ole & put somebody in temporary charge until they can get somebody who deserves to be manager. Look to Simeone, Pochettino, Anfelotti, somebody who has won stuff as a manager. Ole is a joke.

Why would anyone of these leave their teams to join the sinking ship that is United? Are they going to go through all the available world class managers in the world before they realise it's the players? The problem really isn't the manager and I doubt any of the ones you listed would do much better. I really wish Zidane had become the United manager rather than go back to Madrid just to see how well he would do.

Of course Solskjaer is not the man to bring United to former glory. But I think people are not really aware of how low United has really fallen and that it will take time for them to crawl back up.

They will just waste more time if they change managers after every 10 games, that club needs stability and currently I think Solskjaer with this team he is starting to build is doing quite ok.

Managers don't even get a chance to do anything these days before they're fired. They should start firing their squads instead. Maybe they should bring in a transfer window for managers to stop them being sacked after five games.

Hahah, I have to admit I did not see this coming.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/reactions-news-legends-arsene-wenger-wants-to-become-manchester-united-manager-20190926

Wenger... 'Manchester United is a dream job. I have confidence, I have courage and I have ideas'

This would be tremendously funny if it happened.

To be honest, I don't think he could do any worse than Ollie.