Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

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I feel sorry for Arsenal fans as they might never witness anything.

I witnessed Arsenal invincible days and our defensive masterclass leading up to out Champions league final. It has been downhill from there with so much potential and optimism which has not materialized into domination. But the years of zero trophies are behind us and it is once again looking like our best years are ahead.

We still have more premier league trophies than Chelsea  . Plus your best days look to be behind.

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[Igebotz]

I feel sorry for Arsenal fans as they might never witness anything.

I witnessed Arsenal invincible days and our defensive masterclass leading up to out Champions league final. It has been downhill from there with so much potential and optimism which has not materialized into domination. But the years of zero trophies are behind us and it is once again looking like our best years are ahead.

We still have more premier league trophies than Chelsea  . Plus your best days look to be behind.

Your biggest achievement is what Juventus, Celtics and Bayer fans don't brag about and you had the worse invincible among these teams ( bunch of draws). Imagine calling 1EPL title and a CL final glory days hahahah No it isn't bro 

Chelsea two mid seasons - 3 domestic finals

Arsenal two best seasons - zero finals

Your club is allergy to trophies bro. Finishing 2nd is not a flex.

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It is ironic how in the same paragraph you try to downplay an incredible invincible season that only a handful of teams have done and then try to overate getting to and losing finals and in the same paragraph still try to downplay finishing second in the biggest competition in the land. Focus on getting a manager and settling your financial situation.

Also those teams talk about their achievements, you just do not know what goes on outside the English game.

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[Igebotz]

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It is ironic how in the same paragraph you try to downplay an incredible invincible season that only a handful of teams have done and then try to overate getting to and losing finals and in the same paragraph still try to downplay finishing second in the biggest competition in the land. Focus on getting a manager and settling your financial situation.

Lol You had more wins this season(28) than during your invincible hey Mary days(26)  ; do you understand how horrible that sounds?

Liverpool finished 3rd and won the league cup-  A better season than you finishing second with nothing. Football is about trophies; nobody cares about your position. (Elite club mindset, you know)

Also those teams talk about their achievements, you just do not know what goes on outside the English game.

I'm not limited to English football; have you ever seen Juventus or Celtics fans post their invincible trophies and brag like Arsenal fans do every season? Only Arsenal feels the Invincible Trophy is bigger than the Champions League Trophy.. A discussion for another day.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I'm not limited to English football; have you ever seen Juventus or Celtics fans post their invincible trophies and brag like Arsenal fans do every season? Only Arsenal feels the Invincible Trophy is bigger than the Champions League Trophy.. A discussion for another day.

Arsenal drew 12 games that season, ended up on 90 points. Man City and Liverpool regularly got over 90 points over the last 6-7 years and have done better in the CL than that Arsenal squad ever did.

Like you said a chat for another day but I don’t think they would have beaten peak Pep or Klopp teams. Arteta’s current Arsenal would give them a game.

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Lol You had more wins this season(28) than during your invincible hey Mary days(26)  ; do you understand how horrible that sounds?

You are all over the place today. An invincible season is not perfection, it can always be bettered, and as a Club we hit our second highest point tally last season, of course that can better going unbeaten on the score board.
During Chelsea's unbeaten run at home record you won 62 and drew 84, that is approximately more draws to matches than we had when we went 49 games unbeaten, but you know what, it does not make it any less impressive. That is what records are, doing something no one has ever done before or since.

Liverpool finished 3rd and won the league cup-  A better season than you finishing second with nothing. Football is about trophies; nobody cares about your position. (Elite club mindset, you know)

That is so wrong. A league cup/3rd place finish is not better than a champions league quarter final finish and a 2nd place finish in the league.

Only Arsenal feels the Invincible Trophy is bigger than the Champions League Trophy.. A discussion for another day.

You get very easily riled up about what Arsenal fans do and think. We actually do not brag about the invincible season, you actually talk about it more here than I do.

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[Igebotz]

Like you said a chat for another day but I don’t think they would have beaten peak Pep or Klopp teams. Arteta’s current Arsenal would give them a game.

100+ years and the club biggest achievement is being the worst invincible side in Europe top 5 league. They can't even chat to Atalanta fans at the moment. A discussion for another day.  

They didn't even survive the Chelsea -Mourinho era  

That is so wrong. A league cup/3rd place finish is not better than a champions league quarter final finish and a 2nd place finish in the league.

Elite clubs do not celebrate reaching the quarterfinals. We (Chelsea ) are the English team with the most CL semifinal appearances (eight), but you will never see our supporters or players discuss it.The day you start winning major trophies, you'll realise that being knocked out and not winning a trophy is a failure.

You get very easily riled up about what Arsenal fans do and think. We actually do not brag about the invincible season, you actually talk about it more here than I do.

Everybody knows this except you....

[KTChampions]

Wow, fan fights 

Better tell me, are the quotes for relegation from the Premier League for Chelsea and City nonsense or do they really make sense?

City - 26
Chelsea - 21

For comparison: the ratio of Liverpool and Arsenal is quoted as 1000 to 1. I don’t really believe in justice and in the fact that a cheating club will be expelled from the Premier League, probably it’s just bookmakers trying to get money from simpletons?

[cryptofrka]

Arsenal under Wenger was one of the best led clubs in the world. Invincibles were done in different time, no matter the draws it is a great achievement.
How they remained challengers is for the history books, they overachieved basically in every season.

This Arsenal spends a lot and has an elite team which they don't need to sell off. Arsenal should be in position where they fight on all 4 fronts and pushing City to the last day of the PL season isn't that great.
Shows that the team is strong and is making progress, but at the end of the day it doesn't give anything but a sour taste in your mouth - ask any LFC fan and we'll tell you that.

There are onky 4 trophies to fight for, but only a few teams that are targeting them all at the beginning of the season. This Arsenal is one of those teams.
FA cup home loss to LFC, League Cup loss to WH, CL loss to a weak Bayern team after almost getting knocked out by Porto?

What gave you the platform to go far in the league is 10 games less than LFC and City. And that can be described as an average season at best.

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Elite clubs do not celebrate reaching the quarterfinals. We (Chelsea ) are the English team with the most CL semifinal appearances (eight), but you will never see our supporters or players discuss it.

You have been celebrating a league cup final for the past 2 months.

Wow, fan fights 

It is just honest banter, sports' no fun without it 

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[buwaytress]

I say bring back the fan fights! I would actually merit Igeh and un_rank constantly if I were a source. Sometimes this place gets a bit too vanilla for there to be any meaningful rivalry.

With that said, how are the Manure fans doing in the closet? You now know how it feels like to be plumbing the depths of mediocrity, which in itself is not too bad, but the spectacular amounts of money you're paying to do that plus debts incurred while your owners reap dividends, must really grind your gears.

City - 26
Chelsea - 21

For comparison: the ratio of Liverpool and Arsenal is quoted as 1000 to 1. I don’t really believe in justice and in the fact that a cheating club will be expelled from the Premier League, probably it’s just bookmakers trying to get money from simpletons?

This is nonsense. Even if they get expelled (they won't) that's not the same as relegation. I'd love to have a beer with the guy who bets on City/Chelsea relegation...

[Igebotz]

Better tell me, are the quotes for relegation from the Premier League for Chelsea and City nonsense or do they really make sense?

Have you considered TV rights and the money the English FA would lose if City and Chelsea were relegated? They would be in the same level with the French league. Relegation is never an option; this isn't the Italian league. We are talking about the world's most corrupt football association here

You have been celebrating a league cup final for the past 2 months.

Nice try but we don't celebrate mediocrity here. I saw you celebrating Kai Havertz scoring and celebrating against his former employer, saw you celebrating Ode holding up camera after scoring a goal, saw you celebrating parking the bus against Manchester city in your most crucial game of the season ( go and read Rodric statement on that).

There are onky 4 trophies to fight for, but only a few teams that are targeting them all at the beginning of the season. This Arsenal is one of those teams.
FA cup home loss to LFC, League Cup loss to WH, CL loss to a weak Bayern team after almost getting knocked out by Porto?

What gave you the platform to go far in the league is 10 games less than LFC and City. And that can be described as an average season at best.

It must be quite difficult being an Arsenal fan; other from 13 FA Cups and countless Emirates preseason cups, they basically have nothing to brag about. I'm curious to see what they show to the incoming players - the invincible trophy?

Arteta is already on £700m, one or two more transfer windows and he will hit the £1b bottle jobs status 

@buwaytress - Manchester United should focus on fixing their leaking stadium and getting new gym equipments. Very old fashioned club.

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Nice try but we don't celebrate mediocrity here. I saw you celebrating Kai Havertz scoring and celebrating against his former employer, saw you celebrating Ode holding up camera after scoring a goal, saw you celebrating parking the bus against Manchester city in your most crucial game of the season ( go and read Rodric statement on that).

I was not celebrating Kai scoring, I was taunting you who had talked down on him all season. Besides all fans cheer when their players score, that is part of the game

I did not celebrate Martin holding up a camera, it was just a wholesome moment. I rather criticized pundits who had an issue with such a beautiful moment with a long serving staff at the club

I did not celebrate a draw at Etihad, I took a decent point which was a good result at the time. Rodri whinges every-time a club does not play the way they do. He did it after the Madrid match too. There are different ways to play football, you support Chelsea that is renowned for packing the bus over the years, you should even be the last person talking about style of play, especially not to Arsenal that has always played a beautiful brand of football.

I'm curious to see what they show to the incoming players - the invincible trophy?

You do realize we have won MORE THAN DOUBLE the EPL trophies Chelsea has.

- Jay -

[slaman29]

I don't support either team but Arsenal, lately, are exciting to watch. They always had a good fast team but after Wenger, they just seemed so Spursy, you know? Like everyone was bullying them.

Not anymore. Arteta has the brutal strength of Everton, he took it to Arsenal, and now took it to the club's training.

Now just get rid of Jesus and put it someone more tough

United City tonight to close the chapter of England. Mouthwatering Red Devils @9.20 at Sportsbet!

[Igebotz]

I did not celebrate a draw at Etihad, I took a decent point which was a good result at the time. Rodri whinges every-time a club does not play the way they do. He did it after the Madrid match too. There are different ways to play football, you support Chelsea that is renowned for packing the bus over the years, you should even be the last person talking about style of play, especially not to Arsenal that has always played a beautiful brand of football.

The only time we parked the bus, we won everything in Europe, so we're not the same. You parked the bus to finish 2nd, but I parked it to win trophies. What's the point of playing wonderful football if you aren't going to win trophies? The league is ended, and no one remembers how brilliantly you played us this season, but I do recall raping your "Good ebening" team in Baku.  

You do realize we have won MORE THAN DOUBLE the EPL trophies Chelsea has.

You only have 3 Premier League titles and 10 Nazi-era league cups (you were probably not present). There are reasons why those titles are not stored in the same cabinet. When you show 2006 kids what you won before their grandparents went on their first date, you expect them to take you seriously and wonder why you have no pull. I have double of your EPL titles not the other way round.

[KTChampions]

City - 26
Chelsea - 21

For comparison: the ratio of Liverpool and Arsenal is quoted as 1000 to 1. I don’t really believe in justice and in the fact that a cheating club will be expelled from the Premier League, probably it’s just bookmakers trying to get money from simpletons?

This is nonsense. Even if they get expelled (they won't) that's not the same as relegation. I'd love to have a beer with the guy who bets on City/Chelsea relegation...

If they are sent directly to the championship, then this will not be a relegation, yes. But if they receive a fine like Everton, but for example -115 points and are relegated from the Premier League at the end of the season, then technically it will be 100% relegation.

Better tell me, are the quotes for relegation from the Premier League for Chelsea and City nonsense or do they really make sense?

Have you considered TV rights and the money the English FA would lose if City and Chelsea were relegated? They would be in the same level with the French league. Relegation is never an option; this isn't the Italian league. We are talking about the world's most corrupt football association here
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I think it’s not a matter of TV rights, the league will survive just fine without City (maybe even be more interesting), but the fact that City and Chelsea, having received a fair punishment, will simply go to the Super League with Real and Barcelona and this will be the end of UEFA.
Overall these bastards have reached the "too big to fall" stage.

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The only time we parked the bus, we won everything in Europe, so we're not the same.

I do not remember Conte or Mou (second spell) winning you anything in Europe and those were your peak "packing bus" era. You seem not to know your own history.

What's the point of playing wonderful football if you aren't going to win trophies? The league is ended, and no one remembers how brilliantly you played us this season, but I do recall raping your "Good ebening" team in Baku.  

You mentioned something about elite mindset earlier this is bottom of the table mindset. It is one thing to change your style in one match like Arsenal and Madrid did this season, but to enter every match, even against bottom of the table side and defend the way Chelsea used to do, that was terrible.

Almost time for you to cheer Man City so you can at least get a Europa league spot.

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[buwaytress]

Almost time for you to cheer Man City so you can at least get a Europa league spot.

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Ouch Igeh mine bosom padi, I just realised the damned Red Devils are in Europa, at your expense. Onana (and hey I've defended the guy in the past) and Antony don't deserve Europe, not at the expense of Palmer. Such is football. And now we have the full lineup of Premier League teams. I can now close the book on this league for a few more months.

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Onana (and hey I've defended the guy in the past) and Antony don't deserve Europe, not at the expense of Palmer. Such is football. And now we have the full lineup of Premier League teams.

well, he did say they did not deserve their league finish some weeks back and they are only in that position, above Newcastle and United cause of luck, so United totally deserved Europa league football, and I honestly mean that last part.
They made City who just came off a very long win streak in the league and were almost flawless all through, look clueless. Erik ten Hag out-coached Pep on the day something very few coaches managed to do this season and beat Liverpool on the way to their FA cup victory. United deserved it, but no thanks to Onana and Anthony.

I totally agree that Palmer deserved a better finish after his performance this season, he is going places.

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