[ANN] Blacknet BLN | Staking | Future of zApp & ZeFi

[ReRunRod]

Solo mining DuckCoin till the storm settles. Cheers!

[gerdab]

No...the BlackCoin devs are not responsible for my actions, nor do they agree with some of my tactics. However, I guess we should allow the WhiteCoin dev team to copy our "business model",...

the devs are not responsible....our busniess model!!!  

Our = Community

Business model = Everything this community has done so far

So, do u want to prevent WC to copy  BCs model or do u want  3.8 BTC? if it' property of the community why u're claiming 3,8 BTC for u?!!!

[BlackHaze]

scam? lol
hashrate has been paying out dozens of people every single day since early march, weeks before the blackcoinpool started.
i have the TXN numbers to prove it.
the blackcoin pool fails at transparency.

Ofcourse you would say that, looking at your previous posts you have clearly some ownership in the pool.
Blackcoinpool has been paying everytime and on time for me, except for today a little late due to circumstances.

[blade87]

http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=2800820851037543956
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=10855555959740301813
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=7267750341420707906
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=6800396439886724937
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=17107916799874282949
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=875461894495513754
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=14229774212523041789
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=4557819406273661951
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=7716448322972999404
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=1093042495209530488
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=15509858987494677965
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=3906339510222838593
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=14440486846587788290
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=4170382334427967436
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=11191494536645724315
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=1580086995174485251
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=10399439147098475912
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=9397696442030083977
http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=6984138373939979813

Countered with : http://cryptoalts.com/stats/?miner=BJ8Jx2Z18tDtsFALRDtuqs2xSrt6VGiAtC

Now please get NXT out of here.

[IconicExpert]

No...the BlackCoin devs are not responsible for my actions, nor do they agree with some of my tactics. However, I guess we should allow the WhiteCoin dev team to copy our "business model",...

the devs are not responsible....our busniess model!!!  

Our = Community

Business model = Everything this community has done so far

So, do u want to prevent WC to copy  BCs model or do u want  3.8 BTC? if it' property of the community why u're claiming 3,8 BTC for u?!!!

  Where did I post that I wanted the BTC for myself? I do not need 3.8 BTC...the 3.8BTC would go to this community for projects..etc..etc. And yes the WC team should pay it. They used the BC brand to get a ton of volume without putting in all the hard work. It doesn't matter now...WC is dead..they are buried right next to MintCoin

[Daedelus]

As I understand it (i could be incorrect) Transaction time is the minimum time a crypto network can confirm a coin transfer from one account/wallet to another.  For PoW coins this is slightly higher than their block time.  PoS coins can have a MUCH faster block time, but fluctuate more with their transaction speeds due to lack of hashing power (no heavy CPU, GPU or ASIC providing the power), therefore average confirmation time (proof of a successful transaction) is more appropriate for comparison.

Oddly, the BlackCoin specs state a 1 minute block time, which while true for the PoW distribution stage cannot be correct for its now PoS network, as the confirmation times have been as fast as 32 seconds, as per bitinfocharts.com

A transaction is a data bundle, if you like, with the info needed to be added to the blockchain. It needs to be confirmed at least once, a confirmation. The links you've provided shows the first confirmation takes 0.89 minutes on average. It takes 10 confirmations to be absolutely safe.

Wherr does the 10 sec come in?

[Soepkip]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

[StuartGT]

As I understand it (i could be incorrect) Transaction time is the minimum time a crypto network can confirm a coin transfer from one account/wallet to another.  For PoW coins this is slightly higher than their block time.  PoS coins can have a MUCH faster block time, but fluctuate more with their transaction speeds due to lack of hashing power (no heavy CPU, GPU or ASIC providing the power), therefore average confirmation time (proof of a successful transaction) is more appropriate for comparison.

Oddly, the BlackCoin specs state a 1 minute block time, which while true for the PoW distribution stage cannot be correct for its now PoS network, as the confirmation times have been as fast as 32 seconds, as per bitinfocharts.com

A transaction is a data bundle, if you like, with the info needed to be added to the blockchain. It needs to be confirmed at least once, a confirmation. The links you've provided shows the first confirmation takes 0.89 minutes on average. It takes 10 confirmations to be absolutely safe.

Wherr does the 10 sec come in?

From my previous looks at the official Blockchain explorer... which now shows transactions as quick as 2 seconds, so the network could be even quicker for transactions than 10 seconds
http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/chain/BlackCoin

Block           Approx. Time       Transactions   Value Out           Difficulty   Outstanding   Average Age   Chain Age   % CoinDD
86469   2014-04-25 00:25:14           3   4529.49055015   0.268   74514476.59108503   12.1918   59.7675   78.6195%
86468   2014-04-25 00:24:31           2   1125.14479714   0.237   74514476.48124018   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86467   2014-04-25 00:24:29           2   6268.51900027   0.216   74514476.36252451   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86466   2014-04-25 00:24:15           2   2451.75011091   0.223   74514474.5298787   12.1924   59.7668   78.618%
86465   2014-04-25 00:22:58           3   1745.16441788   0.23     74514474.37055986   12.1916   59.7659   78.6191%
86464   2014-04-25 00:21:41           4   7801.43828072   0.254   74514473.95636921   12.1909   59.7651   78.62%
86463   2014-04-25 00:19:48           2   3000.90649713   0.339   74514473.69240755   12.1903   59.7638   78.6207%
86462   2014-04-25 00:15:58           2   3501.16701899   0.339   74514473.59945559   12.1876   59.7611   78.6243%
86461   2014-04-25 00:16:30           3   2048.69126806   0.327   74514473.35841021   12.1881   59.7615   78.6236%
86460   2014-04-25 00:15:49           3   1138.69085308   0.325   74514472.6538097   12.188   59.761   78.6236%
86459   2014-04-25 00:14:52           2   11384.21974278    0.291   74514472.49684546   12.1874   59.7603   78.6244%
86458   2014-04-25 00:14:44           2   1050.36406836   0.278   74514471.47026702   12.1878   59.7602   78.6236%
86457   2014-04-25 00:14:07           3   1517.59626968   0.282   74514471.27530063   12.1875   59.7598   78.624%
86456   2014-04-25 00:13:00           2   6000.39043972   0.249   74514471.2159428   12.1868   59.759   78.625%

[dcm987]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

i think its too late soepkip, this place isoverrun now

[noerc]

As I understand it (i could be incorrect) Transaction time is the minimum time a crypto network can confirm a coin transfer from one account/wallet to another.  For PoW coins this is slightly higher than their block time.  PoS coins can have a MUCH faster block time, but fluctuate more with their transaction speeds due to lack of hashing power (no heavy CPU, GPU or ASIC providing the power), therefore average confirmation time (proof of a successful transaction) is more appropriate for comparison.

Oddly, the BlackCoin specs state a 1 minute block time, which while true for the PoW distribution stage cannot be correct for its now PoS network, as the confirmation times have been as fast as 32 seconds, as per bitinfocharts.com

A transaction is a data bundle, if you like, with the info needed to be added to the blockchain. It needs to be confirmed at least once, a confirmation. The links you've provided shows the first confirmation takes 0.89 minutes on average. It takes 10 confirmations to be absolutely safe.

Wherr does the 10 sec come in?

I think (warning: guess) that 10 sec means that you are very lucky and your transaction gets included in a block instantly after getting broadcasted + this block gets accepted shortly after that.

I just sent 1 BC from one address to another (several times) and it took 20 - 50 sec for them to get their first confirmation.

[Daedelus]

As I understand it (i could be incorrect) Transaction time is the minimum time a crypto network can confirm a coin transfer from one account/wallet to another.  For PoW coins this is slightly higher than their block time.  PoS coins can have a MUCH faster block time, but fluctuate more with their transaction speeds due to lack of hashing power (no heavy CPU, GPU or ASIC providing the power), therefore average confirmation time (proof of a successful transaction) is more appropriate for comparison.

Oddly, the BlackCoin specs state a 1 minute block time, which while true for the PoW distribution stage cannot be correct for its now PoS network, as the confirmation times have been as fast as 32 seconds, as per bitinfocharts.com

A transaction is a data bundle, if you like, with the info needed to be added to the blockchain. It needs to be confirmed at least once, a confirmation. The links you've provided shows the first confirmation takes 0.89 minutes on average. It takes 10 confirmations to be absolutely safe.

Wherr does the 10 sec come in?

From my previous looks at the official Blockchain explorer... which now shows transactions as quick as 2 seconds, so the network could be even quicker for transactions than 10 seconds
http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/chain/BlackCoin

Block           Approx. Time       Transactions   Value Out           Difficulty   Outstanding   Average Age   Chain Age   % CoinDD
86469   2014-04-25 00:25:14           3   4529.49055015   0.268   74514476.59108503   12.1918   59.7675   78.6195%
86468   2014-04-25 00:24:31           2   1125.14479714   0.237   74514476.48124018   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86467   2014-04-25 00:24:29           2   6268.51900027   0.216   74514476.36252451   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86466   2014-04-25 00:24:15           2   2451.75011091   0.223   74514474.5298787   12.1924   59.7668   78.618%
86465   2014-04-25 00:22:58           3   1745.16441788   0.23     74514474.37055986   12.1916   59.7659   78.6191%
86464   2014-04-25 00:21:41           4   7801.43828072   0.254   74514473.95636921   12.1909   59.7651   78.62%
86463   2014-04-25 00:19:48           2   3000.90649713   0.339   74514473.69240755   12.1903   59.7638   78.6207%
86462   2014-04-25 00:15:58           2   3501.16701899   0.339   74514473.59945559   12.1876   59.7611   78.6243%
86461   2014-04-25 00:16:30           3   2048.69126806   0.327   74514473.35841021   12.1881   59.7615   78.6236%
86460   2014-04-25 00:15:49           3   1138.69085308   0.325   74514472.6538097   12.188   59.761   78.6236%
86459   2014-04-25 00:14:52           2   11384.21974278    0.291   74514472.49684546   12.1874   59.7603   78.6244%
86458   2014-04-25 00:14:44           2   1050.36406836   0.278   74514471.47026702   12.1878   59.7602   78.6236%
86457   2014-04-25 00:14:07           3   1517.59626968   0.282   74514471.27530063   12.1875   59.7598   78.624%
86456   2014-04-25 00:13:00           2   6000.39043972   0.249   74514471.2159428   12.1868   59.759   78.625%

But you have shown the average is 0.89 minutes, why point to favourable runs as if they are typical? The facts are 0.89minutes for first confirmation.

There is also a 4min block and 2min block in the list.

[Seio1]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

i think its too late soepkip, this place isoverrun now

It needs to be moderated! One of the coin devs should take the charge here.

[Daedelus]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

i think its too late soepkip, this place isoverrun now

Am I off topic?

[heartthew]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

i think its too late soepkip, this place isoverrun now

It needs to be moderated! One of the coin devs should take the charge here.

Never. A self moderated thread on here is a quick key to a rapidly declining reputation - just look at LOTTO and a other overzealous devs - just let this place patter on, and promote blackcointalk for people who want more succinct and pertinent info...

[dcm987]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

i think its too late soepkip, this place isoverrun now

It needs to be moderated! One of the coin devs should take the charge here.

Never. A self moderated thread on here is a quick key to a rapidly declining reputation - just look at LOTTO and a other overzealous devs - just let this place patter on, and promote blackcointalk for people who want more succinct and pertinent info...

i think i agree with this.if this thread is meant for doom I guess thats just the way it is. if people are smart enough they should be able to figure out what is FUD or spam on their own.

[warr1979]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

i think its too late soepkip, this place isoverrun now

It needs to be moderated! One of the coin devs should take the charge here.

The convo the announcements EVERYTHING BlackCoin needs to move over to reddit.  Let the trolls talk to themselves here and promote their own agenda.  Just post here to tell people where  to go!

[StuartGT]

As I understand it (i could be incorrect) Transaction time is the minimum time a crypto network can confirm a coin transfer from one account/wallet to another.  For PoW coins this is slightly higher than their block time.  PoS coins can have a MUCH faster block time, but fluctuate more with their transaction speeds due to lack of hashing power (no heavy CPU, GPU or ASIC providing the power), therefore average confirmation time (proof of a successful transaction) is more appropriate for comparison.

Oddly, the BlackCoin specs state a 1 minute block time, which while true for the PoW distribution stage cannot be correct for its now PoS network, as the confirmation times have been as fast as 32 seconds, as per bitinfocharts.com

A transaction is a data bundle, if you like, with the info needed to be added to the blockchain. It needs to be confirmed at least once, a confirmation. The links you've provided shows the first confirmation takes 0.89 minutes on average. It takes 10 confirmations to be absolutely safe.

Wherr does the 10 sec come in?

From my previous looks at the official Blockchain explorer... which now shows transactions as quick as 2 seconds, so the network could be even quicker for transactions than 10 seconds
http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/chain/BlackCoin

Block           Approx. Time       Transactions   Value Out           Difficulty   Outstanding   Average Age   Chain Age   % CoinDD
86469   2014-04-25 00:25:14           3   4529.49055015   0.268   74514476.59108503   12.1918   59.7675   78.6195%
86468   2014-04-25 00:24:31           2   1125.14479714   0.237   74514476.48124018   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86467   2014-04-25 00:24:29           2   6268.51900027   0.216   74514476.36252451   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86466   2014-04-25 00:24:15           2   2451.75011091   0.223   74514474.5298787   12.1924   59.7668   78.618%
86465   2014-04-25 00:22:58           3   1745.16441788   0.23     74514474.37055986   12.1916   59.7659   78.6191%
86464   2014-04-25 00:21:41           4   7801.43828072   0.254   74514473.95636921   12.1909   59.7651   78.62%
86463   2014-04-25 00:19:48           2   3000.90649713   0.339   74514473.69240755   12.1903   59.7638   78.6207%
86462   2014-04-25 00:15:58           2   3501.16701899   0.339   74514473.59945559   12.1876   59.7611   78.6243%
86461   2014-04-25 00:16:30           3   2048.69126806   0.327   74514473.35841021   12.1881   59.7615   78.6236%
86460   2014-04-25 00:15:49           3   1138.69085308   0.325   74514472.6538097   12.188   59.761   78.6236%
86459   2014-04-25 00:14:52           2   11384.21974278    0.291   74514472.49684546   12.1874   59.7603   78.6244%
86458   2014-04-25 00:14:44           2   1050.36406836   0.278   74514471.47026702   12.1878   59.7602   78.6236%
86457   2014-04-25 00:14:07           3   1517.59626968   0.282   74514471.27530063   12.1875   59.7598   78.624%
86456   2014-04-25 00:13:00           2   6000.39043972   0.249   74514471.2159428   12.1868   59.759   78.625%

But you have shown the average is 0.89 minutes, why point to favourable runs as if they are common? The facts are 0.89minutes for first confirmation.

There is also a 4min block and 2min block in the list

In my post of highlights, I stated two points:
1. Transaction time of 10 seconds, which as now shown is incorrect and is indeed even faster.
2. Confirmation time of under a minute, which as you agree is correct.  This is also faster than any other crypto in the top 10, factually correct.

In advertising any product or service, it's important to use factually positive statements   While the blockchain explorer shows some transaction/confirmation blocks can take upto 4 minutes, the average is still under a minute, faster than any other top10 crypto.  It is possible - not a dev so unsure on this - that the longer gaps are due to periods of no transactions taking place, i.e. confirmations are not required?

For comparison purposes, if a network (e.g. the excellent NXT framework) has a stated block time of 1 minute, then it's average confirmation time can only ever be slower than that, likely somewhere between 1 and 1m30s.  Slightly off topic, once NXT has greatly improved it's API tools for traders, exchanges and merchants, and remove it's image of being poorly distributed, then it should well prove more popular.  Definitely one to watch

[XbladeX]

Oh wow, it this the BLACKCOIN thread or the

let-me-promote-my-totally-unrelated-service-for-some-other-coin thread?


Can we stay on topic?

i think its too late soepkip, this place isoverrun now

It needs to be moderated! One of the coin devs should take the charge here.

Never. A self moderated thread on here is a quick key to a rapidly declining reputation - just look at LOTTO and a other overzealous devs - just let this place patter on, and promote blackcointalk for people who want more succinct and pertinent info...

i think i agree with this.if this thread is meant for doom I guess thats just the way it is. if people are smart enough they should be able to figure out what is FUD or spam on their own.

+1 agree i hate moderated threds // all most allways there is some scam behind it... in 50%

[Daedelus]

As I understand it (i could be incorrect) Transaction time is the minimum time a crypto network can confirm a coin transfer from one account/wallet to another.  For PoW coins this is slightly higher than their block time.  PoS coins can have a MUCH faster block time, but fluctuate more with their transaction speeds due to lack of hashing power (no heavy CPU, GPU or ASIC providing the power), therefore average confirmation time (proof of a successful transaction) is more appropriate for comparison.

Oddly, the BlackCoin specs state a 1 minute block time, which while true for the PoW distribution stage cannot be correct for its now PoS network, as the confirmation times have been as fast as 32 seconds, as per bitinfocharts.com

A transaction is a data bundle, if you like, with the info needed to be added to the blockchain. It needs to be confirmed at least once, a confirmation. The links you've provided shows the first confirmation takes 0.89 minutes on average. It takes 10 confirmations to be absolutely safe.

Wherr does the 10 sec come in?

From my previous looks at the official Blockchain explorer... which now shows transactions as quick as 2 seconds, so the network could be even quicker for transactions than 10 seconds
http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/chain/BlackCoin

Block           Approx. Time       Transactions   Value Out           Difficulty   Outstanding   Average Age   Chain Age   % CoinDD
86469   2014-04-25 00:25:14           3   4529.49055015   0.268   74514476.59108503   12.1918   59.7675   78.6195%
86468   2014-04-25 00:24:31           2   1125.14479714   0.237   74514476.48124018   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86467   2014-04-25 00:24:29           2   6268.51900027   0.216   74514476.36252451   12.1917   59.767   78.6194%
86466   2014-04-25 00:24:15           2   2451.75011091   0.223   74514474.5298787   12.1924   59.7668   78.618%
86465   2014-04-25 00:22:58           3   1745.16441788   0.23     74514474.37055986   12.1916   59.7659   78.6191%
86464   2014-04-25 00:21:41           4   7801.43828072   0.254   74514473.95636921   12.1909   59.7651   78.62%
86463   2014-04-25 00:19:48           2   3000.90649713   0.339   74514473.69240755   12.1903   59.7638   78.6207%
86462   2014-04-25 00:15:58           2   3501.16701899   0.339   74514473.59945559   12.1876   59.7611   78.6243%
86461   2014-04-25 00:16:30           3   2048.69126806   0.327   74514473.35841021   12.1881   59.7615   78.6236%
86460   2014-04-25 00:15:49           3   1138.69085308   0.325   74514472.6538097   12.188   59.761   78.6236%
86459   2014-04-25 00:14:52           2   11384.21974278    0.291   74514472.49684546   12.1874   59.7603   78.6244%
86458   2014-04-25 00:14:44           2   1050.36406836   0.278   74514471.47026702   12.1878   59.7602   78.6236%
86457   2014-04-25 00:14:07           3   1517.59626968   0.282   74514471.27530063   12.1875   59.7598   78.624%
86456   2014-04-25 00:13:00           2   6000.39043972   0.249   74514471.2159428   12.1868   59.759   78.625%

But you have shown the average is 0.89 minutes, why point to favourable runs as if they are common? The facts are 0.89minutes for first confirmation.

There is also a 4min block and 2min block in the list

In my post of highlights, I stated two points:
1. Transaction time of 10 seconds, which as now shown is incorrect and is indeed even faster.
2. Confirmation time of under a minute, which as you agree is correct.  This is also faster than any other crypto in the top 10, factually correct.

In advertising any product or service, it's important to use factually positive statements  While the blockchain explorer shows some transaction/confirmation blocks can take upto 4 minutes, the average is still under a minute, faster than any other top10 crypto.  It is possible - not a dev so unsure on this - that the longer gaps are due to periods of no transactions taking place, i.e. confirmations are not required?

For comparison purposes, if a network (e.g. the excellent NXT framework) has a stated block time of 1 minute, then it's average confirmation time can only ever be slower than that, likely somewhere between 1 and 1m30s.  Slightly off topic, once NXT has greatly improved it's API tools for traders, exchanges and merchants, and remove it's image of being poorly distributed, then it should well prove more popular.  Definitely one to watch

I don't agree and you are setting new users up for disappointment.  I don't think you have understood what I have said and you're creating sub divisions in terminology that don't exist.

Let's take a break, you can go to bed and we'll catch up later. When people can sense DUF as well as they can FUD, the cryptoworld will be a much better place for it  

I'll leave with a question, what is a 'transaction time' if you distinguish transactions seperately from getting confirmations?

[minerfool]

Isn't IE the same guy who made this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578797.0

Hope you didnt follow his advice, you'd be down about 40% right now ...