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April 01, 2014, 10:22:36 PM
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I dont understand PoS.  How can you get any coins if you dont already have coins?

you can only generate coins via PoS with the coins you already have in your wallet. If you don't have any blackcoins already see my post above.

Should I use a faucet?

If you're a miner, you can mine with us at blackcoinpool.com. Pays out daily at Midnight EST.
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April 01, 2014, 10:23:36 PM
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I dont understand PoS.  How can you get any coins if you dont already have coins?

you can only generate coins via PoS with the coins you already have in your wallet. If you don't have any blackcoins already see my post above.

Should I use a faucet?

If you're a miner, you can mine with us at blackcoinpool.com. Pays out daily at Midnight EST.

How can you mine if its PoS?

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April 01, 2014, 10:25:08 PM
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Hi, about a week ago, I had some help via a couple (JamesR1 and XbladeX) of members here with some issues I was having setting up my config files. I know that this will probable seem very simple to most of you, but I am having a nightmare getting my head around it. With BlackFriday looming around the corner, I would like to get myself up and running if possible.

Original enquiry:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg5896117#msg5896117

I have entered my BC Address via My Miner over at Blackcoin Pool.com

Here is my sgminer.conf file text:

Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333",
"user" : "MyBCAddress",
"pass" : "xxxxxxxxxxx"

}
]
,
"intensity" : "13",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "ckolivas",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "900",
"gpu-fan" : "30-90",
"gpu-memclock" : "1200",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "10",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true
}

Here is the text contained within the Launch - Scrypt.bat file:

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
Color 0A
sgminer

I then double click on Launch - Scrypt.bat that is in the sgminer-4.1.153-v2 that I downloaded from sgminerwindows.com, but always get this error message?

https://i.imgur.com/isH2xXF.jpg

All the files that are contained within the sgminer that I downloaded are these:

https://i.imgur.com/ZRpHa23.jpg

My card is a AMD Radeon Sapphire HD 7870

Can someone let me know what or where I am going wrong as I have been trying many different settings this evening, but nothing seems to work.
Check config for errors like missing  ","  "}" last time that was my foult i just forgot "," and wasted 3h...
try bat like that:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:4444 -u BCADDRESS -p PASSWORD

then save config and change parameters inside
if still problems try cgminer 3.7.2 on that bat rest is optimization

IMPORTANT move /rename conf files, miners like force conf paramiters even you have deleted bins



Thank you for the reply XbladeX

I edited the Launch - Scrypt.bat to:

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:4444 -u BDb6rUjx4hF3SwVhgyEZhZF1rfnxjsX7zv -p xxxxxxxx
pause

added pause so I could catch the error window that flashes up, which is as below:

https://i.imgur.com/VRJ2QPn.jpg

Is a .bin file supposed to be created? In the ,bat file it looks like it is set to delete it when present in the default .bat file in sgminer?

remove --scrypt
in sgminer bat file

Hi SunnyIgor and XbladeX,

Removed --scrypt in sgminer bat file, then ran .bat again (note that I am not using the Nscrypt.bat at all) and got this error:

https://i.imgur.com/nOF2HrC.jpg

Current .bat file:

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer -o stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333 -u BDb6rUjx4hF3SwVhgyEZhZF1rfnxjsX7zv -p xxxxxxxxx
pause

Current .conf file:

Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333",
"user" : "BDb6rUjx4hF3SwVhgyEZhZF1rfnxjsX7zv",
"pass" : "xxxxxxx"

}
]
,
"intensity" : "13",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "ckolivas",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "900",
"gpu-fan" : "30-90",
"gpu-memclock" : "1200",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "10",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true
}

Once again, thank you for taking the time to help.
delete remove reneme conf files

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April 01, 2014, 10:26:23 PM
 #11464

I dont understand PoS.  How can you get any coins if you dont already have coins?

you can only generate coins via PoS with the coins you already have in your wallet. If you don't have any blackcoins already see my post above.

Should I use a faucet?

If you're a miner, you can mine with us at blackcoinpool.com. Pays out daily at Midnight EST.

How can you mine if its PoS?

Jusdt mine any coin, ex: dogecoin, sell it to BTC and then buy some BC (BlackCoin). That is the way the blackcoin multipool do.
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April 01, 2014, 10:27:31 PM
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So 365 BC should more or less give another 1 coin per day per wallet

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April 01, 2014, 10:29:21 PM
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So 365 BC should more or less give another 1 coin per day per wallet

per year
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April 01, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
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So 365 BC should more or less give another 1 coin per day per wallet

No, it's 1/365% per day so 365 coins = 365*0.000027397 = 0.01 coin per day

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April 01, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
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http://blackcoinstore.com
:O

Steam money for blackcoins is amazing. Also, would be an easy way to convince gamers to mine on the multipool.

May go on the group buy for the titan.

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April 01, 2014, 10:36:14 PM
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Hi, about a week ago, I had some help via a couple (JamesR1 and XbladeX) of members here with some issues I was having setting up my config files. I know that this will probable seem very simple to most of you, but I am having a nightmare getting my head around it. With BlackFriday looming around the corner, I would like to get myself up and running if possible.

Original enquiry:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg5896117#msg5896117

I have entered my BC Address via My Miner over at Blackcoin Pool.com

Here is my sgminer.conf file text:

Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333",
"user" : "MyBCAddress",
"pass" : "xxxxxxxxxxx"

}
]
,
"intensity" : "13",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "ckolivas",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "900",
"gpu-fan" : "30-90",
"gpu-memclock" : "1200",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "10",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true
}

Here is the text contained within the Launch - Scrypt.bat file:

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
Color 0A
sgminer

I then double click on Launch - Scrypt.bat that is in the sgminer-4.1.153-v2 that I downloaded from sgminerwindows.com, but always get this error message?

https://i.imgur.com/isH2xXF.jpg

All the files that are contained within the sgminer that I downloaded are these:

https://i.imgur.com/ZRpHa23.jpg

My card is a AMD Radeon Sapphire HD 7870

Can someone let me know what or where I am going wrong as I have been trying many different settings this evening, but nothing seems to work.
Check config for errors like missing  ","  "}" last time that was my foult i just forgot "," and wasted 3h...
try bat like that:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:4444 -u BCADDRESS -p PASSWORD

then save config and change parameters inside
if still problems try cgminer 3.7.2 on that bat rest is optimization

IMPORTANT move /rename conf files, miners like force conf paramiters even you have deleted bins



Thank you for the reply XbladeX

I edited the Launch - Scrypt.bat to:

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:4444 -u BDb6rUjx4hF3SwVhgyEZhZF1rfnxjsX7zv -p xxxxxxxx
pause

added pause so I could catch the error window that flashes up, which is as below:

https://i.imgur.com/VRJ2QPn.jpg

Is a .bin file supposed to be created? In the ,bat file it looks like it is set to delete it when present in the default .bat file in sgminer?

remove --scrypt
in sgminer bat file

Hi SunnyIgor and XbladeX,

Removed --scrypt in sgminer bat file, then ran .bat again (note that I am not using the Nscrypt.bat at all) and got this error:

https://i.imgur.com/nOF2HrC.jpg

Current .bat file:

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer -o stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333 -u BDb6rUjx4hF3SwVhgyEZhZF1rfnxjsX7zv -p xxxxxxxxx
pause

Current .conf file:

Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333",
"user" : "BDb6rUjx4hF3SwVhgyEZhZF1rfnxjsX7zv",
"pass" : "xxxxxxx"

}
]
,
"intensity" : "13",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "ckolivas",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "900",
"gpu-fan" : "30-90",
"gpu-memclock" : "1200",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "10",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true
}

Once again, thank you for taking the time to help.
delete remove reneme conf files

I removed the .conf file from the folder and restarted the .bat file and got this message:

https://i.imgur.com/n1SV7P4.jpg

I don't have the ckolivas.cl or ./kernal/ckolivas.cl files in the sgminer folder?

https://i.imgur.com/QXng5Xa.jpg

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April 01, 2014, 10:38:02 PM
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I dont understand PoS.  How can you get any coins if you dont already have coins?

Buy some or mine on the Multipool - http://blackcoinpool.com/
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April 01, 2014, 10:39:44 PM
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Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.
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April 01, 2014, 10:41:31 PM
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I removed the .conf file from the folder and restarted the .bat file and got this message:

https://i.imgur.com/n1SV7P4.jpg

I don't have the ckolivas.cl or ./kernal/ckolivas.cl files in the sgminer folder?

https://i.imgur.com/QXng5Xa.jpg
Yes try cgminer 3.7.2.
Or find version with those missing files

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April 01, 2014, 10:48:38 PM
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Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Whilst it would be amazing I think realistically a Coinbase type service coming on board this early is unlikely. Remember the big problem with running a fiat exchange is regulation (compliance on a day to day basis and then the cost of having the relevant licenses). So I can't see someone here setting up a service like this for Blackcoin from scratch either.

Instead I think we should focus on the simple easy things, such as making blackcoin.co as user friendly as possible and also as you say prominently directing visitors towards an exchange.

The best route into Blackcoin is probably still by buying Bitcoins. Perhaps we could even have on blackcoin.co the steps eg buy 1 bitcoin at coinbase at this link, then sign up for free at mintpal and place a buy order for 1btc worth of blackcoins.

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April 01, 2014, 10:49:54 PM
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Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

I think there are a couple blackcoin exchanges in the works.

We also need a dummy-proof guide for mining at the multipool on the site.

edit: Moolah's Prelude.io has blackcoin/usd.
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April 01, 2014, 11:01:21 PM
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I dont understand PoS.  How can you get any coins if you dont already have coins?

you can only generate coins via PoS with the coins you already have in your wallet. If you don't have any blackcoins already see my post above.

Should I use a faucet?

If you're a miner, you can mine with us at blackcoinpool.com. Pays out daily at Midnight EST.

How can you mine if its PoS?

You must be new here lol. You mine at the Blackcoin multipool, which mines PoW coins and uses the proceeds to buy up Blackcoin, and pay out in Blackcoin to its miners. It's beautiful. It's brilliant. It's badass.

Now, what some people don't realize about the multipool is that, if it didn't exist, the vast majority of us mining there would be doing independently and individually what it does collectively: mining other coins and trading out for Blackcoin.

Its main function is two-fold:
--It solidifies the community
--It makes it a lot more convenient to trade into the coin we want, thereby increasing participation (many of us would find it tiresome to do all that trading).

Is the Blackcoin pool in itself detrimental to other coins? No. First, because we'd individually be dumping many other coins anyway as just mentioned. Secondly and more importantly, because we are adding liquidity to the other markets and in fact creating buying opportunities for people interested NOT in Blackcoin, but the other coins whose price may dip when when the pool sells. This latter point may be hard for noobs to get their heads around. But anyone who was into BTC last year will remember the strange feeling of fervently wishing its price would drop sharply, so they could buy more. Decent coins, just like quality stocks, will see buying interest kick in when the price is attractive. That's how markets work. So if you hear us talk about 'crushing' other coins, forgive us. We are just stoked about Blackcoin and get a little rowdy, just like fans do at a football game. It's just human nature and totally harmless.


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April 01, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
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A localbc is probably more feasible then trying to exchange cash

So 365 BC should more or less give another 1 coin per day per wallet

No, it's 1/365% per day so 365 coins = 365*0.000027397 = 0.01 coin per day


That figures, my maths is bad  Shocked

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April 01, 2014, 11:06:57 PM
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I agree that the section "buy blackcoin" could probably be moved so it's just under the wallet download section. I remember early marketing classes that always said people who visit websites (for information or out of curiosity...not an invested user) are much less inclined to click around or scroll down and are more interested in what is right there on their screen - attention spans are short (initially) so ease and simplicity are big to hook in new people.
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April 01, 2014, 11:08:09 PM
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Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Whilst it would be amazing I think realistically a Coinbase type service coming on board this early is unlikely. Remember the big problem with running a fiat exchange is regulation (compliance on a day to day basis and then the cost of having the relevant licenses). So I can't see someone here setting up a service like this for Blackcoin from scratch either.

Instead I think we should focus on the simple easy things, such as making blackcoin.co as user friendly as possible and also as you say prominently directing visitors towards an exchange.

The best route into Blackcoin is probably still by buying Bitcoins. Perhaps we could even have on blackcoin.co the steps eg buy 1 bitcoin at coinbase at this link, then sign up for free at mintpal and place a buy order for 1btc worth of blackcoins.

I agree 100%. However, services like Coinbase are not going to be able to last long if they do not branch out to other coins. In regards to BlackCoin, it is hard to tell an "old school" investor he/she should buy BlackCoins and try to walk them through the current process. For us it easy, for the non techie it is nearly impossible.
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April 01, 2014, 11:11:20 PM
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hello,

is that some one has news about cryptorush? my BC are still stuck on the platform as well as my bitcoins!
thank you in advance for your answers

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April 01, 2014, 11:15:57 PM
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hello,

is that some one has news about cryptorush? my BC are still stuck on the platform as well as my bitcoins!
thank you in advance for your answers

Hm. They are insolvent and they probably will be for a while.



























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