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Author Topic: [GUIDE] GridSeed 5-Chip USB, Blade & Black Miner Support/Tuning  (Read 308107 times)
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April 20, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
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I will try to run it on 800Mhz, because they are actually needing from 100W to 120W as they are not connected equally comparable to individual grdiseed miners. More: http://cryptomining-blog.com/1921-performance-results-from-2x-gridseed-blade-miner-asics/
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April 20, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
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bfgminer allways have report less hash then cgminer does, but i allways noticed that i got less errors with bfgminer as well on my btc machines

running 800 Mhz on the blade gives me about 3 Mh far less then the given 5.6 they posted so i am pretty convinced they started with higher speed as well
running 850 Mhz gives me near 5 Mh at this point, however knowing bfgminer it has to settle a bit longer
I will check the performance on a regular basis so i am sure its not going to pump out high % of errors although on scrypt i allways saw a higher hw error rate.
The problem i have is weird bfgminer sees both boards when i install zadig i get either no devices found at all or it finds only the second board
I can actually turn it off but since the fan is connected on that board, this is not a wise idea. Even though they stay pretty cool i  think without the fan they die pretty sure of heat.
I pulled the cable out several times let it rest for 15 minutes plug it back in but it simply refuses to be found by cgminer
For the power well its connected to my 1200 watt antec on a pci-e connector which should be able to feed 225 watt at max since its actually a 8 pin
So the 140 watt it might pull or a bit more will not even make it sweat at all i think
And second feeding it off a pc psu is more efficient, but ill check it from time to time if things act up weird


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April 20, 2014, 04:17:45 PM
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bfgminer allways have report less hash then cgminer does, but i allways noticed that i got less errors with bfgminer as well on my btc machines

running 800 Mhz on the blade gives me about 3 Mh far less then the given 5.6 they posted so i am pretty convinced they started with higher speed as well
running 850 Mhz gives me near 5 Mh at this point, however knowing bfgminer it has to settle a bit longer
I will check the performance on a regular basis so i am sure its not going to pump out high % of errors although on scrypt i allways saw a higher hw error rate.
The problem i have is weird bfgminer sees both boards when i install zadig i get either no devices found at all or it finds only the second board
I can actually turn it off but since the fan is connected on that board, this is not a wise idea. Even though they stay pretty cool i  think without the fan they die pretty sure of heat.
I pulled the cable out several times let it rest for 15 minutes plug it back in but it simply refuses to be found by cgminer
For the power well its connected to my 1200 watt antec on a pci-e connector which should be able to feed 225 watt at max since its actually a 8 pin
So the 140 watt it might pull or a bit more will not even make it sweat at all i think
And second feeding it off a pc psu is more efficient, but ill check it from time to time if things act up weird




Hey Bronan...

PSU...:
8-pin PCI-E connector is rated @150W max...not 225W...You should be fine here...You could try 2 separate PCI-E connectors...1 for each board...

Software...:
cgminer NEEDS Zadig driver...installed properly...without it it will NOT recognize gridseed...
bfgminer is opposite...DOESN't need Zadig...just opposite...you have to Un-install zadig and put back STM driver...

USB...:
Are you sure that you are NOT using USB 3.0 port(s) on the back of your PC/laptop...Gridseeds are intended to work with USB2.0...they don't like usb3.0...giving us all kind of weird problems...Make sure that both USB cables go the 2 USB 2.0 ports...

Just my 2 cents...

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April 20, 2014, 04:52:23 PM
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Actually i am absolute certain its on usb 2.0
The usb 3.0 slots are used up by external drives and other real usb 3.0 devices (I mean by that devices which really deliver speed and do not dc itself on these ports)

On my 5 computers with kinda all versions win above 7 on them 7 ult x64, 7 ent x32: x64, win 8 x64, win x 8.1 funny enough also on the r.pi it acts weird
Changed hubs, changed pc, changed usb cables
I deleted almost all linux partitions because i hardly use them since most miners i had are having almost everything aboard (knc, ant) so almost no fuss power up and go.
Takes me 3 minutes for setup a knc box for mining on any pool, including installing the psu
Ants a bit more since they are a bit slow on the web interface, unless you want fixed ip's then it takes even more time Wink

I am pretty sure its more then able to feed both boards on a blade they are rated to use 100 watt so bot sure what they pull for real since too much extra is needed to let them run



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April 20, 2014, 09:20:47 PM
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Have a blade coming this week...can each of the two "blades" be run separately on different miners/pools?  I plan on using hashra with a pi or two.

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April 21, 2014, 05:29:19 AM
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Have a blade coming this week...can each of the two "blades" be run separately on different miners/pools?  I plan on using hashra with a pi or two.

You can if you plug each blade to a different controller
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April 21, 2014, 08:47:23 AM
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I see that diameter of gridseed 5chipper is 9.5cm, but could someone please tell me the hight without fan. So i would know how many i can fit in to my tower case.

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April 21, 2014, 09:38:32 AM
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I'm still using this binary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=477709.msg5539257#msg5539257) for my Gridseed, every other try with a rasp cgminer binary gave me around 10% less hashrate ...

I tried out this ... but looks bad on the pool ... compared to the one I'm using

https://github.com/girnyau/cgminer-gc3355

Anyone else suffering from that?


I did compile the changed Blade cgminer, which works and shows hashrate accurate for the blades ... chips=40

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Rasp Binary: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7L0F0oittD_cTV6Rl9OOWVLTzg/edit?usp=sharing


What binaries is everyone else using for the raspberry and Gridseed products?

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April 21, 2014, 10:47:21 AM
Last edit: April 21, 2014, 11:06:40 AM by klintay
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I am using the old 5 chip bfgminer 3.10.0 with 5 Gridseed blades. Connected directly into the computer (no raspberry pi) via hub.



I get a total hashrate of about 22-24 mh/s which is not very good as they were advertised as 5200 kh/s per unit.


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April 21, 2014, 11:42:55 AM
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I am using the old 5 chip bfgminer 3.10.0 with 5 Gridseed blades. Connected directly into the computer (no raspberry pi) via hub.

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I get a total hashrate of about 22-24 mh/s which is not very good as they were advertised as 5200 kh/s per unit.

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with the cgminer I'm using I get 5.2mh at the pool with ... 800 freq.

... however hashrate is wrongly displayed on the cgminer rasp.


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April 21, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
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What binaries is everyone else using for the raspberry and Gridseed products?
I have dropped cgminer, tried all possible forks on 2 raspi's with 10 and 20 gridseeds connected.
Lots of HW error's and they all seem to crash after a while.

On my setup, bfgminer runs most stable (https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/tree/gridseed)
It also has a higher hashrate reported on the pool compared to cgminer, especially on p2pools.
Don't know if it supports blades yet.

The new cpuminer fork from sandor111 also looks very promising. It runs stable on raspi and has this auto tune function.
Some pools don't work yet, but there should be a fix for this very soon.
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April 21, 2014, 03:14:26 PM
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What binaries is everyone else using for the raspberry and Gridseed products?
I have dropped cgminer, tried all possible forks on 2 raspi's with 10 and 20 gridseeds connected.
Lots of HW error's and they all seem to crash after a while.

On my setup, bfgminer runs most stable (https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/tree/gridseed)
It also has a higher hashrate reported on the pool compared to cgminer, especially on p2pools.
Don't know if it supports blades yet.

The new cpuminer fork from sandor111 also looks very promising. It runs stable on raspi and has this auto tune function.
Some pools don't work yet, but there should be a fix for this very soon.

https://github.com/siklon/usb-miner/tree/master/software/cpuminer

Fixed issue with 100% reject on some pools.  Wink

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April 21, 2014, 03:30:46 PM
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What binaries is everyone else using for the raspberry and Gridseed products?
I have dropped cgminer, tried all possible forks on 2 raspi's with 10 and 20 gridseeds connected.
Lots of HW error's and they all seem to crash after a while.

On my setup, bfgminer runs most stable (https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/tree/gridseed)
It also has a higher hashrate reported on the pool compared to cgminer, especially on p2pools.
Don't know if it supports blades yet.

The new cpuminer fork from sandor111 also looks very promising. It runs stable on raspi and has this auto tune function.
Some pools don't work yet, but there should be a fix for this very soon.

https://github.com/siklon/usb-miner/tree/master/software/cpuminer

Fixed issue with 100% reject on some pools.  Wink

I don't understand anything about these windows instructions :

Basic Windows build instructions, using MinGW:
   Install MinGW and the MSYS Developer Tool Kit (http://www.mingw.org/)
      * Make sure you have mstcpip.h in MinGW\include
   If using MinGW-w64, install pthreads-w64
   Install libcurl devel (http://curl.haxx.se/download.html)
      * Make sure you have libcurl.m4 in MinGW\share\aclocal
      * Make sure you have curl-config in MinGW\bin
   In the MSYS shell, run:
      ./autogen.sh   # only needed if building from git repo
      LIBCURL="-lcurldll" ./configure CFLAGS="-O3"
      make


Isn't there an ready to go windows version like the normal Gridseed Cpuminer?
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April 21, 2014, 03:43:26 PM
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https://github.com/siklon/usb-miner/tree/master/software/cpuminer
Fixed issue with 100% reject on some pools.  Wink
You genius! It's working on p2pool now!
Just compiled it and running a few minutes, that's not long enough but at least it is accepting shares.
Thanks!
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April 21, 2014, 06:00:46 PM
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What binaries is everyone else using for the raspberry and Gridseed products?
I have dropped cgminer, tried all possible forks on 2 raspi's with 10 and 20 gridseeds connected.
Lots of HW error's and they all seem to crash after a while.

On my setup, bfgminer runs most stable (https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/tree/gridseed)
It also has a higher hashrate reported on the pool compared to cgminer, especially on p2pools.
Don't know if it supports blades yet.

The new cpuminer fork from sandor111 also looks very promising. It runs stable on raspi and has this auto tune function.
Some pools don't work yet, but there should be a fix for this very soon.

https://github.com/siklon/usb-miner/tree/master/software/cpuminer

Fixed issue with 100% reject on some pools.  Wink

Can you provide a binary for the rasp ..... for it? Does it work with g-blades?

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April 21, 2014, 06:22:59 PM
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What binaries is everyone else using for the raspberry and Gridseed products?
I have dropped cgminer, tried all possible forks on 2 raspi's with 10 and 20 gridseeds connected.
Lots of HW error's and they all seem to crash after a while.

On my setup, bfgminer runs most stable (https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/tree/gridseed)
It also has a higher hashrate reported on the pool compared to cgminer, especially on p2pools.
Don't know if it supports blades yet.

The new cpuminer fork from sandor111 also looks very promising. It runs stable on raspi and has this auto tune function.
Some pools don't work yet, but there should be a fix for this very soon.

https://github.com/siklon/usb-miner/tree/master/software/cpuminer

Fixed issue with 100% reject on some pools.  Wink

Can you provide a binary for the rasp ..... for it? Does it work with g-blades?

Latest binary for Rpi (LA-v3g)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dzl44hj2kiiwa0f/minerd-sandor111

How to compile on Rpi:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install -y build-essential libtool libcurl4-openssl-dev libncurses5-dev libudev-dev autoconf automake screen
git clone https://github.com/siklon/usb-miner.git
cd usb-miner/software/cpuminer
./autogen.sh
./configure CFLAGS="-O3"
make

It doesn't work yet with the Blades, but it's easy to add support for it, I just need someone with a Blade willing to help me test it.

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April 21, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
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Have a blade, have already compiled software and been messing around. Had no idea it didn't work with blades, but it definitely sees them Smiley

I would be more than willing to work with you and get this ironed out. CGMiner is terrible for me (on the blades) and BFGMiner is alright, but slows down.
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April 21, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
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Anybody found a way to get the blades to work with the 5 chip miners? Would like to have all of them on one computer.
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April 21, 2014, 09:05:36 PM
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Bruiser and I got the Blades to work on cpuminer, and it works flawlessly. We're testing with multiple Blades right now.

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April 21, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
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Bruiser and I got the Blades to work on cpuminer, and it works flawlessly. We're testing with multiple Blades right now.

I have no clue what cgminer I have running on my pi. It was posted by somebody in the forum.
https://i.imgur.com/clzwtn2.jpg?1
This version is what has worked best for me. Shows the most shares at the pool and does not taper off.
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